10305 Lion Knights' Castle 90th anniversary set

[zoth33]

@morvit I don't think it will look like that.  I think it will be like set 6080 but larger more detailed with newer techniques.  Really hoping for 20 figs.  I think a couple of horses and possibly some other animals or birds is likely. I'm hoping for new bardings, I think the lion emblem will probably be an updated version but we will see, although I do hope they stay with the red, blue and yellow color scheme.  I don't think they will put a dragon in it.    I'm just hoping for a really nice build with some good figs.  

[morvit]

At 350 euro and with no license, I expect at least 5000 pieces. 

[Something_Awesome]

5 hours ago, morvit said:

$350 should get us something like this but 2x wider with like 15 minifigures? 

Why 15 figs? Why are so many lowballing us? That is LESS figs than the Cantina or Diagon Alley. And the castle will not have to cover any licensing fees off the top. C'mon guys. Is this the forum LEGO gets all it's bad ideas from? Or are we just trying to set a low bar for us to reduce disappointment?

Edited March 13, 2022 by Something_Awesome

[Aanchir]

5 hours ago, morvit said:

$350 should get us something like this but 2x wider with like 15 minifigures?

To be honest, I'm expecting more of a traditional motte-and-bailey style castle with a courtyard surrounded by a curtain wall (with the usual LEGO castle features like towers and a gatehouse) and a clearly-defined keep, rather than a single towering structure like in that MOC.

[Something_Awesome]

2 hours ago, morvit said:

At 350 euro and with no license, I expect at least 5000 pieces. 

Same. Though I suppose it's possible the pieces could be much less if they use a bunch of those old-school castle wall pieces.

[morvit]

56 minutes ago, Something_Awesome said:

Same. Though I suppose it's possible the pieces could be much less if they use a bunch of those old-school castle wall pieces.

In this day and age, and in a $350 set, I don't think they should be using those old-school castle wall pieces.

[zoth33]

3 hours ago, morvit said:

At 350 euro and with no license, I expect at least 5000 pieces. 

Not going to happen more like around 4,000 pieces.  

[Maple]

3 hours ago, zoth33 said:

Not going to happen more like around 4,000 pieces.  

Why is that?

NinjaGo Gardens has 5685 pieces, 20ish figures and is $300.

[Triceron]

I'm reaaally hoping it's 20+ figures at this price point.

Even a liscenced Marvel set like Daily Planet Bugle managed to get 25 figures.  15 would be criminal.

Edited March 14, 2022 by Triceron

[Roebuck]

7 hours ago, Something_Awesome said:

Why 15 figs? Why are so many lowballing us? That is LESS figs than the Cantina or Diagon Alley. And the castle will not have to cover any licensing fees off the top. C'mon guys. Is this the forum LEGO gets all it's bad ideas from? Or are we just trying to set a low bar for us to reduce disappointment?

57 minutes ago, Triceron said:

I'm reaaally hoping it's 20+ figures at this price point.

Even a liscenced Marvel set like Daily Planet managed to get 25 figures.  15 would be criminal.

It could happen, but which 25 figs do you guys expect in the set then?

As I have said I prefer that some of those 25 figs are changed out with animals in the set. Should not cost them to much of the budget since they are in production already:

1. 3 horses are in production, so they may use 2 of those then some budget on black and white if we get 4 in the set
2. 1 foal in production, probably recolored if they include it
3. No goats in production, but this would be the perfect opportunity to include it, must remake the mould so would be expensive budgetwise, most likely a recolor if it happens
4. 1 cow in unknown color in production, could be included as it is
5. 1 calf in unknown color in production, could be included as it is, but maybe skipped for budget reasons
6. at least sheep in one color in production, could be included as it is, especially if we do not get a goat
7. 1 lamb in unknown color in production, could be included as it is, but maybe skipped for budget reasons
8. at least pig in one color in production, could be included as it is or recolored
9. 1 piglet in unknown color in production, could be included as it is, recolored or maybe skipped for budget reasons
10. at least hen in one color in production, could be included as it is or recolored

So with 1, "new" mould and a few recolored ones they could have a hole "farm" included in the set
 

7 hours ago, Aanchir said:

To be honest, I'm expecting more of a traditional motte-and-bailey style castle with a courtyard surrounded by a curtain wall (with the usual LEGO castle features like towers and a gatehouse) and a clearly-defined keep, rather than a single towering structure like in that MOC.

I agree, something like the old lion knight castle, but with modern details and techniques..

[morvit]

6 hours ago, Triceron said:

I'm reaaally hoping it's 20+ figures at this price point.

Even a liscenced Marvel set like Daily Planet managed to get 25 figures.  15 would be criminal.

That Daily building was pretty bad. I rather Lego put effort into the building vs. Figs. Of course given no licence, both should be done well.

[Lion King]

7 hours ago, Triceron said:

I'm reaaally hoping it's 20+ figures at this price point.

Even a liscenced Marvel set like Daily Planet managed to get 25 figures.  15 would be criminal.

It’s Daily Bugle, not Daily Planet…

[Lion King]

About 20 - 25 minifigures for this Castle set could make sense but I do not think there will be a lot of animals, such as horses, cows, *cough* goas *cough*, pigs, chickens,

I dont recall any $300+ set have a lot of aniamls tho? 

I mean I won’t expect everything or I will set msy disappointment…

[Gorilla94]

2 hours ago, morvit said:

That Daily building was pretty bad. I rather Lego put effort into the building vs. Figs. Of course given no licence, both should be done well.

On top of it most figures were reused in other sets and didn't require special moulds... with the reuse of completely unfitting pirate Torso prints in the last creator caste as well as in the blacksmith set, I heavily doubt we will get 20+ figures with all sorts of great printing and helmet variants.

I'd say 2 horses are save (maybe a gray recolour later reused in other sets) and a foal very likely.

Edited March 14, 2022 by Gorilla94

[Alexandrina]

8 hours ago, Roebuck said:

It could happen, but which 25 figs do you guys expect in the set then?

Presumably as a minimum:

1. A King
2. A Queen
3. At least a few knights - a few with open-faced helmets, a few with closed-faced helmets, maybe one with a broad-brim helmet

Other possibilities include:

1. A wizard (a nod to Majisto)
2. Non-royal nobility - a lord and a lady (strangely enough, a gap in Lego's offering)
3. A ghost (as a nod to the Black Monarch's ghost)
4. Blacksmith
5. Stablemaster
6. Cook
7. Handmaid
8. Young prince/princess
9. Peasantry, both male and female
10. Tavern-keeper
11. Forestmen
12. Clergy (highly unlikely but would fit the setting)
13. Knights of additional factions
14. A jester

IMO for the size of the set, twenty-five minifigures is in the reasonable range of possibility (if on the upper end of it) and something closer to twenty is more likely - I don't think there's much chance of them falling far short of twenty, given that Lego will absolutely want to make this a memorable product and as a worst case scenario they could just shove a load of duplicate knights with different face-prints to pad the count. Given that we don't even know the extent of the set (is it a HUGE castle? is it a castle/outer bailey/surrounding village? is the castle a set with imposing walls and not much else? is it chock-full of medieval daily life?) it's hard to narrow-down the possible minifigures - but you could say to me "there are fifty minifigures" and I wouldn't struggle to think up a list of fifty possibilities.

Personally I'm hoping that Lego take the opportunity to give us plenty of the figures that have been under-represented in their catalogue. I'm specifically thinking along the lines of female minifigures - as far as I'm aware, barring the old Forestwoman there have been maybe five female Castle minifigures ever that aren't some form of Queen or Princess. We've also never had household staff, which would make for interesting new designs. And there is a huge dearth of feminine headwear. There are about three different types of crown and a dozen or so different types of helmet, but in terms of medieval female fashion we have the old hennin mould from the 80s (available in white, red and black; dated, and the red especially is creeping up in price) and the lavender hennin from the CMF (an okay interpretation, but the colour combined with the dual-moulded hair means it has limited utility) and that's it. Given the sheer quantity of mad designs attested in medieval sources, it's a shame we've had such a meagre offering (and the last time the hennin was released, outside the CMF, was twenty years ago now)

[NoOneOfImportance]

3 hours ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

About 20 - 25 minifigures for this Castle set could make sense but I do not think there will be a lot of animals, such as horses, cows, *cough* goas *cough*, pigs, chickens,

I would guess a fair bit of animals, yeah. At least horses, given that was the main animal in the classic sets. 

The bugle isn't a standard for figures, however. Most sets at that price have significantly less, so I don't know that I'd expect that many figures, but we'll see. 

I too would like to see "goas" in this set 

[zoth33]

14 hours ago, Maple said:

Why is that?

NinjaGo Gardens has 5685 pieces, 20ish figures and is $300.

That was a year ago and look at the economy right now.  I think that was a special case.  Also if there are several horses and other molded creatures then the piece count won't be above 5000.  I hope your right and we get 5000 pieces or more but I just don't think it will happen.  Especially if there is a gatehouse or large doors involved.  If it is somewhere around the 5000-5500 piece count that would be great and a really nice castle.  And hopefully we get 20-25 figs but I'm going to keep my expectations low for now.  I know I'm going to buy it and maybe another if it's great.  This way too when the set comes out and beats my expectations I will be even more excited.  I'm really excited for this set as is.  Just my opinion 

[Follows Closely]

As long as it is a "Castle", the community will love it. The name "10305 Lion King’s Castle" does imply that it is a Castle or more likely, knowing LEGO, a Keep. As long as 80% of the bricks go to the structure then LEGO can not go wrong with this one. 

 

 

[INTENSS]

3 hours ago, Alexandrina said:

Presumably as a minimum:

1. A King
2. A Queen
3. At least a few knights - a few with open-faced helmets, a few with closed-faced helmets, maybe one with a broad-brim helmet

Other possibilities include:

1. A wizard (a nod to Majisto)
2. Non-royal nobility - a lord and a lady (strangely enough, a gap in Lego's offering)
3. A ghost (as a nod to the Black Monarch's ghost)
4. Blacksmith
5. Stablemaster
6. Cook
7. Handmaid
8. Young prince/princess
9. Peasantry, both male and female
10. Tavern-keeper
11. Forestmen
12. Clergy (highly unlikely but would fit the setting)
13. Knights of additional factions
14. A jester

IMO for the size of the set, twenty-five minifigures is in the reasonable range of possibility (if on the upper end of it) and something closer to twenty is more likely - I don't think there's much chance of them falling far short of twenty, given that Lego will absolutely want to make this a memorable product and as a worst case scenario they could just shove a load of duplicate knights with different face-prints to pad the count. Given that we don't even know the extent of the set (is it a HUGE castle? is it a castle/outer bailey/surrounding village? is the castle a set with imposing walls and not much else? is it chock-full of medieval daily life?) it's hard to narrow-down the possible minifigures - but you could say to me "there are fifty minifigures" and I wouldn't struggle to think up a list of fifty possibilities.

Personally I'm hoping that Lego take the opportunity to give us plenty of the figures that have been under-represented in their catalogue. I'm specifically thinking along the lines of female minifigures - as far as I'm aware, barring the old Forestwoman there have been maybe five female Castle minifigures ever that aren't some form of Queen or Princess. We've also never had household staff, which would make for interesting new designs. And there is a huge dearth of feminine headwear. There are about three different types of crown and a dozen or so different types of helmet, but in terms of medieval female fashion we have the old hennin mould from the 80s (available in white, red and black; dated, and the red especially is creeping up in price) and the lavender hennin from the CMF (an okay interpretation, but the colour combined with the dual-moulded hair means it has limited utility) and that's it. Given the sheer quantity of mad designs attested in medieval sources, it's a shame we've had such a meagre offering (and the last time the hennin was released, outside the CMF, was twenty years ago now)

I agree, medieval female minifigs/accessories have always been in short supply but there haven’t exactly been a ton of male civilian figures either.  I’ve always wanted more peasants/civilians.  It’s a shame the torsos used in the Mill Village Raid never got used again.

I wonder if the headdress used in the new Harry Potter hospital set may be recolored for medieval use.  

At the $350 price point, I’m hoping/expecting for a 4000 plus piece set with multiple civilian/event (tournamanet/tents?) structures around the outside and to include 20 plus minifigs (king, queen, jester, bard (recolor), other nobles, 2 full armored knights, around 5 castle guards, 3-4 peasants, and other factions (forestmen, etc) to feast together in a large great hall.  I expect 2 horses (barding would be great, but I doubt it), and some smaller animals but not expecting a farm spread here.  Side note, can we get a dark brown horse?  That’d be awesome too.
 

[Aanchir]

11 hours ago, Roebuck said:

3 horses are in production, so they may use 2 of those then some budget on black and white if we get 4 in the set

I would honestly not mind if the set included duplicates of some of the current horse colors/coat patterns. As much as I love it when sets treat animals as characters in their own right rather than as accessories, it's not like it'd be strange for a castle to have two horses that look alike.

For that matter, the set could always do like 6080 or 6085 and use different saddles or caparisons to differentiate between horses with the same coat pattern. Frankly, new recolors of the saddle, chanfron, and caparison may be even MORE useful for Castle builders than new recolors for the horses themselves, since there have been so few horse barding options since the updated horse mold came out in 2012! And while LEGO can introduce new horse colors or patterns even in more modern-day sets from themes like City or Creator Expert, I feel LEGO would be unlikely to introduce new horse barding in a non-Castle set.

Similarly, I'm not too interested in seeing a whole bunch of livestock animals like cows in this set, mainly because even if LEGO is capable of including them, many of those sorts of animals can just as easily show up various other types of sets and themes. I suppose small single-piece like chickens or piglets would not eat up too much of the budget, especially if LEGO already has them in production for the City Farm sets, but I'm hardly expecting it to include as many farm animals as you'd find in a Duplo farm set!

There are a few non-livestock animals that I would not mind LEGO including to liven up the actual castle interiors in interesting ways, though, such as a mouse or rat to steal food from the kitchen/larder or add a touch of gloom and squalor to the castle dungeon.

3 hours ago, Alexandrina said:

Presumably as a minimum:

1. A King
2. A Queen
3. At least a few knights - a few with open-faced helmets, a few with closed-faced helmets, maybe one with a broad-brim helmet

Other possibilities include:

1. A wizard (a nod to Majisto) 
2. Non-royal nobility - a lord and a lady (strangely enough, a gap in Lego's offering)
3. A ghost (as a nod to the Black Monarch's ghost)
4. Blacksmith
5. Stablemaster
6. Cook
7. Handmaid
8. Young prince/princess
9. Peasantry, both male and female
10. Tavern-keeper
11. Forestmen
12. Clergy (highly unlikely but would fit the setting)
13. Knights of additional factions
14. A jester

IMO for the size of the set, twenty-five minifigures is in the reasonable range of possibility (if on the upper end of it) and something closer to twenty is more likely - I don't think there's much chance of them falling far short of twenty, given that Lego will absolutely want to make this a memorable product and as a worst case scenario they could just shove a load of duplicate knights with different face-prints to pad the count. Given that we don't even know the extent of the set (is it a HUGE castle? is it a castle/outer bailey/surrounding village? is the castle a set with imposing walls and not much else? is it chock-full of medieval daily life?) it's hard to narrow-down the possible minifigures - but you could say to me "there are fifty minifigures" and I wouldn't struggle to think up a list of fifty possibilities.

Personally I'm hoping that Lego take the opportunity to give us plenty of the figures that have been under-represented in their catalogue. I'm specifically thinking along the lines of female minifigures - as far as I'm aware, barring the old Forestwoman there have been maybe five female Castle minifigures ever that aren't some form of Queen or Princess. We've also never had household staff, which would make for interesting new designs. And there is a huge dearth of feminine headwear. There are about three different types of crown and a dozen or so different types of helmet, but in terms of medieval female fashion we have the old hennin mould from the 80s (available in white, red and black; dated, and the red especially is creeping up in price) and the lavender hennin from the CMF (an okay interpretation, but the colour combined with the dual-moulded hair means it has limited utility) and that's it. Given the sheer quantity of mad designs attested in medieval sources, it's a shame we've had such a meagre offering (and the last time the hennin was released, outside the CMF, was twenty years ago now)

Interesting choices! For my part, I'm not too picky about the number of figures that are included as long as there are enough to adequately populate the scene. But I am definitely hoping that those figures are varied enough to play a variety of different roles that you'd expect to find in a LEGO castle. My expectations are similar to some of those from your list: I'd love to see a king, queen, princess, squire, cook, chambermaid, stablemaster, smith/farrier, and perhaps a bard, jester, and/or wizard. Of course, some of the peasant/laborer characters could be designed so they can perform more than one of those tasks — for example, a chambermaid minifigure with a sufficiently generic design could also serve as a cook or part of the kitchen staff, and a smith/farrier could also serve as the stablemaster.

Naturally there'd also need to be a few knights, guards/footsoldiers, and archers, but for my part I've never been too much of an army builder, so I would probably be content with two to four figures in each of those three categories. I realize, of course, that many people would prefer far more, in order to comprehensively defend what's sure to be a very large castle! But I've also found that having TOO many figures of that sort would create some complications with the amount of seating you'd need for banquets or other gatherings in the great hall, even if a few of those figures remain on guard duty during those gatherings. That's not helped by the proportions of the LEGO minifigure, or the amount of space they'd need for even the most basic of table settings (i.e. a 1x1 goblet and 2x2 plate for each figure).

I also agree that I'd prefer to see a number of different female minifigures. And for my part, I don't even mind if some of them were in traditionally male roles like knights, soldiers, and archers. After all, those sorts of figures would probably still have gender-neutral torso designs, so people who are bothered by that could easily just switch the heads for more masculine-looking ones (and I'm sure most of us have plenty of those to choose from).

 

Another thing I'd love to see that's perhaps slightly controversial would be a "characters page" in the instruction manual, similar to the ones from sets like Pirates of Barracuda Bay or Ninjago City! I know a lot of historic themes builders prefer the figures as nameless archetypes that each builder can project identities onto at their individual discretion. But over the past year I've gotten really into reading old LEGO publications like De LEGO Krant from the Netherlands,Bricks & Pieces magazine from the UK, or various comic strip style ads that ran in various kids' magazines/comics throughout Europe. And one thing that I've found fascinating about publications from that era (even including catalogs) is that some of them DID have characters with more clearly-defined names and roles!
 

For instance, the ruler of the Lion Knights from set 6080 (most likely the mounted knight differentiated by a two-colored banner and a black cape and yellow shield instead of a blue cape and shield) was named "Ridder Pieter van Blankevoort" (Sir Peter Whiteford) in the Netherlands, and "Sir Richard" in the UK (quite possibly the same character later named "King Richard Lionheart" in the 1995 Royal Knights sets.

A 1984 issue of De LEGO Krant also gave him a daughter, "Jonkvrouw Machteld Eleonora" (Lady Matilda Eleanor), and subsequent issues identified her specifically as the damsel/maiden from set 6023 and introduced new adventures that featured her. The blacksmith from set 6040 also appears as a Lion Knight supporting character in stories from both Bricks & Pieces magazine and De LEGO Krant, the latter of which named him Adrianus.

The ruler of the Black Falcon/Eagle Knight faction from set 6073 (again, differentiated from the other mounted knights in that set by a two-colored banner and a differently colored shield) was named "Ridder Jan Swartegeest" (Sir John Blackghost) in the Netherlands, and "The Black Knight" in the UK. In this case, UK publications explicitly acknowledged him as the same character who subsequently ruled over the Black Falcons in set 6074 and over the Black Knights in set 6085 .

"The Black Knight" from sets 6034, 6009, and 6086 (with facial hair and updated armor, but otherwise the same torso and legs) was probably also meant to be a later depiction of this same character. For that matter, magazine stories and set names in the UK also identified the two minifigures from 6021 as Sir Richard and the Black Knight in alternate tournament armor.

A lesser known Black Falcons/Eagle Knights character was an evil wizard named "The Wizard of Avalon" in Bricks & Pieces magazine and "De lelijk tovenaar Swartegeest" (The Wicked Wizard Blackghost) in De LEGO Krant. At first I thought that these were just two media-only characters with no physical minifigure counterpart. However, I since realized that the wizard's unusual portrayal with a bare chest and cape in the Captain Indigo comics appears to have been based on a minifigure from an alternate model of set 6040 (essentially just the Lion Knights' blacksmith with his apron flipped around and worn as a cape). A fun detail about his appearance in De LEGO Krant is that he's portrayed as a shapeshifter who can take the form of either a raven or a handsome
 

Anyway, even if the storylines of these early Castle themes were both less well-known and globally consistent than the ones for the Pirates theme, I would love if the set and manual had callbacks to these characters. They don't necessarily even need to share the names of their classic counterparts, or be named at all — it could be enough to give them designs loosely inspired by their classic counterparts, titles like "The Blacksmith" or "The Young Princess", and short bios that vaguely allude to the roles they played in previous stories, like the ones in the Barracuda Bay manual. I'm just a sucker for these sorts of callbacks.

17 hours ago, Maple said:

Why is that?
NinjaGo Gardens has 5685 pieces, 20ish figures and is $300.

Ninjago City Gardens also had lots and lots of tiny detail elements for stuff like roofs, signage, shop and museum interiors, etc — even a highly detailed castle build wouldn't necessarily have the same emphasis on tiny brick-built details and wildly non-traditional part use as that set did, since it's a very different sort of architecture and setting.

I definitely don't think it's outrageous to expect 5000 pieces, but the types of pieces used can have a big impact on a set's price per piece. After all, Pirates of Barracuda Bay had far fewer pieces than the Treehouse for the very same price. But the Treehouse contained an abundance of identical, lightweight parts like tiles, plates, and leaves. Whereas Barracuda Bay had numerous bulky pieces like boat hull segments, 10x10 quarter-circle bricks, 8x16 plates, 16x16 plates, and 10x10 wedge plates — not to mention a lot more animals and minifigures!

As such, I wouldn't deem a hypothetical 4800-piece version of this set a bad value as long as the end result is just as substantial as I'd have expected a hypothetical 5500-piece version to be. At the moment, regardless of piece count, I'm envisioning something somewhat larger than Barracuda Bay or the Treehouse, but somewhat smaller than the Creator Expert Roller Coaster (although it'd require fewer engineering-intensive new molds than that set did, so… who knows?)

[zoth33]

@Aanchir  I also found the named characters and stories interesting especially when I was a kid in the 80's.  I still like reading stories that people come up with for their builds.  I know that it's been more about making your own idea's for the stories of sets now with Lego.  I think it would be interesting to see what some of the people at Lego come up with for their own sets.  I just can't wait to see this castle last year and this year are turning out great for castle lovers even though it isn't a straight up theme.  I think the fact that the 3in1 castle and the blacksmith shop and the castle in the forest have all sold well really shows Lego that there is still a market out for these type of sets and we do get an actual castle theme in the next few years.  

[Maple]

5 hours ago, zoth33 said:

That was a year ago and look at the economy right now.  I think that was a special case.  Also if there are several horses and other molded creatures then the piece count won't be above 5000.  I hope your right and we get 5000 pieces or more but I just don't think it will happen.  Especially if there is a gatehouse or large doors involved.  If it is somewhere around the 5000-5500 piece count that would be great and a really nice castle.  And hopefully we get 20-25 figs but I'm going to keep my expectations low for now.  I know I'm going to buy it and maybe another if it's great.  This way too when the set comes out and beats my expectations I will be even more excited.  I'm really excited for this set as is.  Just my opinion 

We have no idea how the set is designed, if it has big pieces or not, tons of animals or minifigures. We know nothing. 

However anything is possible. The economy sucked last year and the NinjaGo Gardens still is $300 and 5000 pieces. The Boutique Hotel has 3000 pieces and $200. Even the Disney Castle, a license, is 4000 pieces and $350. Diagon Alley is 5500 pieces and $400, which is how much this Castle will most likely be in the USA. Lots of figures there too. Mos Eisley Cantina, again $350 and 20 minifigures, Star Wars license and a big animal that adds at least $20 to the set.

Just keep an open mind because for $350-$400+ this thing can be amazing. OR a letdown. I'm going with amazing.

[Lion King]

I have been wondinering about CMF Series 23 as a 90th anniveary for this Castle. I mean, we ahve a bard from Sereis 22.

But I don’t feel that way Series 23 will be Castle-themed….

[zoth33]

37 minutes ago, Maple said:

We have no idea how the set is designed, if it has big pieces or not, tons of animals or minifigures. We know nothing. 

However anything is possible. The economy sucked last year and the NinjaGo Gardens still is $300 and 5000 pieces. The Boutique Hotel has 3000 pieces and $200. Even the Disney Castle, a license, is 4000 pieces and $350. Diagon Alley is 5500 pieces and $400, which is how much this Castle will most likely be in the USA. Lots of figures there too. Mos Eisley Cantina, again $350 and 20 minifigures, Star Wars license and a big animal that adds at least $20 to the set.

Just keep an open mind because for $350-$400+ this thing can be amazing. OR a letdown. I'm going with amazing.

Of course we have no idea what it looks like its all speculation at this point.  I'm just keeping a level expectation in my head for now.  All those sets you said have been in development for years up to their release this one is getting fast tracked especially with this timeframe.  I think it be an amazing set as it will be the 90th anniversary set.  I don't think it will have a lot of animals but that's just my opinion I was just saying that those factors will have a factor in the piece count and especially what techniques and style they use for the castle.  Oh I'm going to love this set I know it, I'm backing anything castle that comes our way.  

 

8 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

I have been wondinering about CMF Series 23 as a 90th anniveary for this Castle. I mean, we ahve a bard from Sereis 22.

But I don’t feel that way Series 23 will be Castle-themed….

I think its going to be a mix of a bunch of previous lego themes.  

Edited March 15, 2022 by zoth33

[Maple]

1 hour ago, zoth33 said:

Of course we have no idea what it looks like its all speculation at this point.  I'm just keeping a level expectation in my head for now.   

Well stop! 
I'm expecting a 4,500 piece set with 30 minifigures and 3 horses and 8 goats.

Also Mos Eisley Cantina was designed and went to market in 9 months. Not everything is quick rushed.
 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Maple