MYSTERIES: Introduction and Rules

[Sentinel_Brix]

On 9/19/2024 at 6:25 PM, Sentinel_Brix said:

Thanks for updating the scores on the entries! 

 @MKJoshA just two inconsistencies found: the 2x points for my fighter have been granted but not applied 

 

Pushing this. Any update upcoming on the L9? 

Thx.

[MKJoshA]

On 10/6/2024 at 2:39 PM, Sentinel_Brix said:

Pushing this. Any update upcoming on the L9? 

Thx.

Another big sorry for the long delay in responding. I'm closing on a house right now and the extra meetings + paperwork is intense! But that means I'll have a dedicated Lego space by Christmas So more builds and faster response times coming soon I promise!

I checked your Aurora Squadron entry and it already had the extra 5 XP added. Maybe Thaum took care of that since you posted but I'm actively seeing it.

You mentioned 2 inconsistencies, what was the other?

[Professor Thaum]

25 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

Maybe Thaum took care of that since you posted but I'm actively seeing it. 

It was already alright, so I didn't touch anything

[Sentinel_Brix]

18 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

Another big sorry for the long delay in responding. I'm closing on a house right now and the extra meetings + paperwork is intense! But that means I'll have a dedicated Lego space by Christmas So more builds and faster response times coming soon I promise!

No issue at all. I wish you all the best with your new home! 

19 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

I checked your Aurora Squadron entry and it already had the extra 5 XP added. Maybe Thaum took care of that since you posted but I'm actively seeing it.

It's not about the bonus. The entry was deemed eligible for double points as it was featured in the May the 4th contest. 

22 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

You mentioned 2 inconsistencies, what was the other?

The 2nd was an inconsistency with scoring on n1majneb's ungraceful exit. The aggregate and the single scores on S, T and A do not match. Just an observation as the the total score is legit. 

[Yperio_Bricks]

So here's @Sentinel_Brix M4 entry:

And here is the Mysteries entry:

 

[Sentinel_Brix]

On 8/25/2024 at 5:08 PM, MKJoshA said:

Fantastic base for your ships! Love the bar/hanger area. Since you submitted the Z-95 for the M4 contest you get x2 XP for this entry.

... and here is the evidence for approval 

 

[Sentinel_Brix]

Ok guys, hold on for a sec. What the actual kriff is going on? When did we switch from Mysteries to "Galactic Battlegrounds"? 

Collab is one thing but if you think we are going to recruit more players by "rude" and coordinated "attack" on peacefully claimed quadrants, you are... well... wrong. 

Alongside goes the mysterious ignoring by the administration of my confirmed 2x points for the M4-24 fighter. So again. What is going on?!?

 

[Max_Lego]

42 minutes ago, Sentinel_Brix said:

Collab is one thing but if you think we are going to recruit more players by "rude" and coordinated "attack" on peacefully claimed quadrants, you are... well... wrong. 

Was it I who violated the rules? If so, I shall remove my entry and apologize. I believed the Dark Side and the Light Side had a competition for grid squares. Correct me if I was wrong 

...Also, Velusia belongs to the Empire canonically 

[Yperio_Bricks]

There's no "competition". While 90% of the galaxy is empty, you guys just attacked us out of the blue in a sector where we had 81 points already. 67 plus the 14 missing points from the May the 4th contest and more mocs are waiting to be judged.

This attack is not very nice and zero fun.

[Professor Thaum]

Erf...

I thought the fun was to battle with a high dose of MOC for... whatever could be fun...

A planet, a sector, a grid square, a paradisiac island, a mystery, etc

The builds in L9 were not made to bother anyone...

Just to heat a bit the atmosphere.

Nothing serious... afterall this is a war

1 hour ago, Sentinel_Brix said:

Alongside goes the mysterious ignoring by the administration of my confirmed 2x points for the M4-24 fighter. So again. What is going on?!? 

Now that Yperio gave the links of the M4, no doubt the count will be aligned and that you will have all the promised point.

You are not ignored, the GMs are just a little bit overwhelmed.

[MKJoshA]

Just wanted to give a quick heads up that I'm looking into all this. If the Lightside took L9 first through points that will be accounted for. I'll get back to you all within 24 hours.

Another thing to keep in mind, with the upcoming 2.0 there will likely be changes to where points are. Regardless, whatever you build now will help not matter who takes what square.

[Max_Lego]

1 minute ago, MKJoshA said:

If the Lightside took L9 first through points that will be accounted for.

If the Light side already took L9, does it mean that my activities are illegal? Is it against the rules or 'dirty playing'? I don't want to play dirty

[Sentinel_Brix]

First of all I don't think you broke the rules with building in a square where other groups made points. I understood that if any party locks a square reaching 100P, then it takes 150P to take over, and so on. Rules are not the concern here. 

What made me  start the discussion "out-of-character" of the parties we represent is that until now there has been kinda consensus that we collect points in different squares and yes, compete. 

I love to play the game and tried in the past to not only tell my stories - that include conflict and war ( it's Star Wars) - but to include you other handful of players in collaborative work on eye level and with respectful treatment. You can challenge that. And maybe I woke some demons here, Idk. 

Yperio and I lived up to the sudden challenge in L9. Gosh, we even stamped two great builds out of nothing in a couple of days, that should have sealed the deal for now. And there's still going to be more on a cool, unplanned collab with the DS around Velusia.

But you know by now that I love to post my stories about the Raiders and maybe Jedi, but now I feel like I'm locked in a quarrel for L9. I wanted to build on Chandrila soon, so there will be more LS points to come but now I don't see when to get there with my story because of the tense situation there. 

I understand L9 is the most important square for many reasons, both in character as well as for gameplay, as it opens access to multiple hyperlanes. It's of strategic importance. I assure you, the LS will not give up the sector easily. But does the DS need it right now? We will only lose points there with mocs that we don't like to build or need to place there, in a desperate attempt to seize or keep control. And it will be no fun.

So, long story short, I perceive the coordinated attack not being a friendly competition in this stage of the game but more like bullying. Right now, we - like 7 people more or less - should be worldbuilding and having fun, not spilling bad blood between us, no matter how "in character" these actions are. 

Sorry for the long post. 

 

 

[Max_Lego]

@Sentinel_Brix, I don't want to be unfriendly. I see your point about losing the creative freedom, and I assure you that I have no intention of personally returning to L9 as of now. In fact, I don't think I will be building anywhere the Light Side is present for some time. I think @MKJoshA said that if you scored the necessary points first, you should not worry about my much too late activities. Sorry if I offended you 

[Sentinel_Brix]

@Max_Lego We're good, no worries 

[MKJoshA]

On 10/11/2024 at 6:03 PM, Sentinel_Brix said:

No issue at all. I wish you all the best with your new home! 

It's not about the bonus. The entry was deemed eligible for double points as it was featured in the May the 4th contest. 

The 2nd was an inconsistency with scoring on n1majneb's ungraceful exit. The aggregate and the single scores on S, T and A do not match. Just an observation as the the total score is legit. 

Thank you for catching my errors and @Yperio_Bricks for the links. I've added the bonus 14 XP to your entry. And the single scores error on n1majneb's entry was a copy-paste error. I've fixed it too.

On 10/20/2024 at 5:17 PM, Sentinel_Brix said:

Ok guys, hold on for a sec. What the actual kriff is going on? When did we switch from Mysteries to "Galactic Battlegrounds"? 

Collab is one thing but if you think we are going to recruit more players by "rude" and coordinated "attack" on peacefully claimed quadrants, you are... well... wrong. 

Alongside goes the mysterious ignoring by the administration of my confirmed 2x points for the M4-24 fighter. So again. What is going on?!?

 

The rest of the team wasn't ignoring you, it's that they were being overly patient with me. I should have fixed the error weeks ago. Buying a house has eaten up a lot more of my time than I expected. I'll have keys in about a month though so I'll soon be able to focus on other things.

The Light Side currently has 89 points on L9. Whoever gets to 100 first will gain control. The Dark Side has access to L9 via the Hydian Way. So their entries are all legal. There are some outstanding entries to be scored which I will work on this week. Based on a fast look at the entries though I think it's safe to assume the Light Side will be taking it.

Personally a little competition doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Though I can understand feeling like the "attack" is unwarranted. I hope you can tell by the player's reaction that no hard feelings were meant.

 

My goal is to have 2.0 ready by the end of Jan at the latest. That will give every team more goals to strive for besides just trying to take P10. That will help even things out I hope.

Everyone, I love see all your MOCs and am glad for the community of builders we have. Thank you again for your patience with me.

[MKJoshA]

Celebrate the holidays with our Life Day contest!

[Sentinel_Brix]

Just a little question: 

Is Kashyyyk still occupied or already freed in our game? 

Per game rules P9 is under DS control, but as we are following the legends timeline, in 5 ABY Kashyyyk would be free or at the verge of being free. 

What's your opinion here? Do we in general split sector ownership 'as per game rules' from the 'historical' developments on planets inside these sectors? Or is this more like a game of risk, where locked sectors really alter the timeline. 

I personally prefer the former above the latter. Just imagine I could build a story around a heavy defeat of Rebel forces on a specific planet and still lock the sector with the earned game points... 

On 12/1/2024 at 4:32 PM, MKJoshA said:

Celebrate the holidays with our Life Day contest!

Eventually, I'm asking this because of Life Day originating from Kashyyyk 

[Max_Lego]

@Sentinel_Brix, remember the Naboo incident? You said that we are free to do anything we want with the continuity. If you prefer Kashyyk to be under Imperial control, I don't think anyone shall be against it. In fact, I wanted Rax to visit Kashyyk at some point, and celebrating Life Day is a nice reason to do so...  Please correct me if I am wrong, @MKJoshA

Edited December 11, 2024 by Max_Lego

[Sentinel_Brix]

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

remember the Naboo incident?

No, what do you mean? 

Just kidding  My question here is indeed in connection with the Naboo topic. (I wouldn't immediately call Republic troops on Naboo an incident ).  

I mean, I have a preference as I wrote. Maybe not everyone read it though (on the other hand, I bet every one of the handful of active players has )

My question specifically for Kashyyyk is if we are pre- or post liberation (mainly to the GM @MKJoshA) ? 

[Yperio_Bricks]

In my opinion we are not reenacting canon or legends or some particular movie. We are creating our own stories and time line! I simply go by the Mysteries map. Kashyyyk is in grid sector P9. P9 is under rule of the imperial faction. Therefore Kashyyyk is controlled by the Dark SIde. Or look at Coruscant. Coruscant is in L9. Sector L9 is controlled by the Light Side, so Coruscant is under Light Side control, no matter how it was at some point in time in canon or legends. The map shows the situation straight forward and there is no doubt about who controls a certain planet. This is how I perceive the game

[Max_Lego]

9 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

In my opinion we are not reenacting canon or legends or some particular movie. We are creating our own stories and time line! I simply go by the Mysteries map. Kashyyyk is in grid sector P9. P9 is under rule of the imperial faction. Therefore Kashyyyk is controlled by the Dark SIde. Or look at Coruscant. Coruscant is in L9. Sector L9 is controlled by the Light Side, so Coruscant is under Light Side control, no matter how it was at some point in time in canon or legends. The map shows the situation straight forward and there is no doubt about who controls a certain planet. This is how I perceive the game

I agree. It may be oversimplified, but easier to understand 

[Jody Meyer]

I believe I have control over Q9, aiming for Kashyyk..maybe see you there.

[Sentinel_Brix]

1 hour ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

[...] I simply go by the Mysteries map. Kashyyyk is in grid sector P9. P9 is under rule of the imperial faction. Therefore Kashyyyk is controlled by the Dark SIde [...]

 

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

I agree. It may be oversimplified, but easier to understand 

Easier it is, yes. It corresponds to option B from my previous posts, where the game is played more like a game of risk (the board game). But that exactly triggers 'aggressive' campaigns for the sake of sector control. Like: if I want Kashyyyk to be liberated, I have to do it with spamming builds in P9,  rather than play along the legends timeline where at some point it were liberated. In the case of (loose) timeline approach, the scores and sector controls would be more "meta". I can live with both in the end. Just wanted to know your opinion 

 

[Yperio_Bricks]

23 minutes ago, Sentinel_Brix said:

 

Easier it is, yes. It corresponds to option B from my previous posts, where the game is played more like a game of risk (the board game). But that exactly triggers 'aggressive' campaigns for the sake of sector control. Like: if I want Kashyyyk to be liberated, I have to do it with spamming builds in P9,  rather than play along the legends timeline where at some point it were liberated. In the case of (loose) timeline approach, the scores and sector controls would be more "meta". I can live with both in the end. Just wanted to know your opinion 

 

Yeah, maybe the whole map is played more like a boardgame.

At the pace the game is progressing and with 200 empty sectors on the map, i don't think anyone needs to be too aggressive towards the other factions for the next few decades

If we would play along a set timeline and we reach a certain event and a sector changes hands unconditionally (needs to change hands to match the time line), then the whole points system would become meaningless?!