Lego Dreamzzz 2023

[Killian]

13 hours ago, Mondo-TRON said:

Yes he did. He also said the Pegasus is a black horse.

I wonder if this is a "nightmare"/villian themed set. When I think of a good Pegasus they are usually white.

Hopefully. Nightmare is a portmanteau of Night and Mare from a superstition about bad dreams being caused by nocturnal demonic goblinoid creatures called Mares. People believed that Sleep Paralysis and Night Terrors were caused by these beings sitting on a sleeper.

Mare has since become a term for a female horse, so there's precedent for having an evil horse associated with bad dreams in Lego Dreamzzzzzzzzzzzz. It's be good to get some decent villain sets instead of having them frequently regulated to side builds with the current Lego trend

[Mondo-TRON]

2 hours ago, Killian said:

Hopefully. Nightmare is a portmanteau of Night and Mare from a superstition about bad dreams being caused by nocturnal demonic goblinoid creatures called Mares. People believed that Sleep Paralysis and Night Terrors were caused by these beings sitting on a sleeper.

Mare has since become a term for a female horse, so there's precedent for having an evil horse associated with bad dreams in Lego Dreamzzzzzzzzzzzz. It's be good to get some decent villain sets instead of having them frequently regulated to side builds with the current Lego trend

Cool thanks for the info.

[Lemerbrix]

2 hours ago, Killian said:

Hopefully. Nightmare is a portmanteau of Night and Mare from a superstition about bad dreams being caused by nocturnal demonic goblinoid creatures called Mares. People believed that Sleep Paralysis and Night Terrors were caused by these beings sitting on a sleeper.

Mare has since become a term for a female horse, so there's precedent for having an evil horse associated with bad dreams in Lego Dreamzzzzzzzzzzzz. It's be good to get some decent villain sets instead of having them frequently regulated to side builds with the current Lego trend

Good point about the mythology part, you are well educated 

[Killian]

I hope the success of Monkie Kid, Friends and Ninjago, and failure of Vidiyo, Nexo Knights and Hidden Side has convinced Lego not to screw Dreamzzz over with a heavy App focused theme

[BrickFit26]

Yes. I personally don't care for app play with LEGO. 

[TeriXeri]

4 hours ago, Killian said:

I hope the success of Monkie Kid, Friends and Ninjago, and failure of Vidiyo, Nexo Knights and Hidden Side has convinced Lego not to screw Dreamzzz over with a heavy App focused theme

I wouldn't say Nexo really failed because of app, the sets did have scannable shield tiles, but didn't influence the builds as much as the "augmented reality" color-brick stuff from Hidden Side or whatever Vidiyo had (I liked those beat-bits as prints by themselves), both those themes did get pulled early  ,  while Nexo did just technically just end in 2017, with 2018 being a somewhat bonus wave/magazine without a show.

Hidden Side last wave had some serious lack of availability, especially the castle just vanished (likely a low production run), and Vidiyo openly got a cancellation announcement.

Problem with Vidiyo was lack of normal sets at launch, and Beatboxes price was not popular at all, + it followed mainly negative publicity from another app theme, Hidden Side abruptly ending a few months before it.

I mean the concept of the app for those recent City mission sets was fun doing once, but then turns into an annoyance when there's no instructions available otherwise, which to me was much worse design compared to those other themes.

Either way, the Nexo game app has been dead for a while now, I have never used app for Hidden Side or Vidiyo, but at least those sets have both paper and pdf instructions to still enjoy as a LEGO brick product and build/rebuild in 10 , 20, 30 years.

But apps shouldn't be part of LEGO sets or themes.

But even themes without apps can have varied succes based on how it launches :

• Legend of Chima's first 2 years were split across 3 product lines, with speedorz, buildable CCBS figures and normal sets all at the same time.
• Ninjago is a good example of how a theme can still be strong, while it did start with spinners and cards, and spinners/flyers throughout the years, the main focus remained normal sets, even popular enough to get a Movie, 2 magazines and it's own Legacy subtheme remaking older sets again.

I hope this theme can just be a "normal" theme with normal sets for a start, Elves lasted 4 years and didn't need Apps, CMF, Beatboxes, Spinners etc for that.

Edited February 16, 2023 by TeriXeri

[Mondo-TRON]

5 hours ago, Killian said:

I hope the success of Monkie Kid, Friends and Ninjago, and failure of Vidiyo, Nexo Knights and Hidden Side has convinced Lego not to screw Dreamzzz over with a heavy App focused theme

I am not familar with the apps that were used. In what ways were Vidiyo,Nexo Knights, and Hidden Side bad regarding the apps? Are there any themes/sets the uses an app that works well?

[TeriXeri]

8 hours ago, Mondo-TRON said:

I am not familar with the apps that were used. In what ways were Vidiyo,Nexo Knights, and Hidden Side bad regarding the apps? Are there any themes/sets the uses an app that works well?

I don't think the apps themselves were bad to the theme, and even optional, but especially Vidiyo launched with just CMF and Beatbox sets with heavy advertising on app, the Stage sets should've been part of launch, with perhaps more small sets/vignettes instead of those Beatboxes.

Also doing a CMF right out of the gate, with no regular sets to back it up, was a strange move, as CMF have different buyers, and are also sold in a lot less places compared to boxed sets (in my country I never seen CMF in physical stores outside of official LEGO store)

The Nexo media (books/magazines/tv show) and sets had "scan powers" all over the place, but it was still a full line of regular sets, but it maybe overdid the budget with the amount of books and promotions released at once.

Hidden Side was the only theme that had actual features built into the sets to scan with the app, like colored bricks and panels inside or at the side of the builds, also had debatable set box design that was very different from the usual, I think more focus on physical ghost figures might have helped the theme a bit.

Edited February 16, 2023 by TeriXeri

[Killian]

I wonder if this new theme will be set in "our world" like Hidden Side, Alien Conquest etc. and some of the crazy vehicles will just be one offs built by Mrs Castillo or Mr Oz?   Or if it'll be in some sort of alternate world like Chima/Nexo Knights/Ninjago where Crocodile Cars and Spacebuses are a thing? 

I think I'm hoping for the home world of the heroes to be basically our world, kinda like how Lego City is; but they're accessing the dream world in secret so it's not affecting society at large. Kind of like how the 7 heroes of the Hidden Side theme were fighting Ghosts every night, but most ordinary people had no idea.

 

I've been thinking that there's not been many cartoons/TV shows based around dreams for lego to draw from, so this theme should feel pretty unique.

The only dream related media I can think of are;

 

 

 

 

[Maple]

On 2/16/2023 at 5:51 AM, TeriXeri said:

Also doing a CMF right out of the gate, with no regular sets to back it up, was a strange move, as CMF have different buyers, and are also sold in a lot less places compared to boxed sets (in my country I never seen CMF in physical stores outside of official LEGO store)

 

VIdiyo probably did the CMF series first because the set designs were not good. The prototype models were so much better. The series also had cardboard boxes which wasn't smart. $20 for a minifigure also didn't sit well with parents.

Blaming just one thing like apps is just being simple minded. Hidden Side and Nexo Knights several waves of sets. Clearly their failures are much different than Vidiyo. 

I think LEGO might get the hint that parents don't want apps with their LEGO. What are LEGO's biggest in house themes? City, NinjaGo, Monkey Kid and Friends. No apps.

[Lemerbrix]

2 hours ago, Killian said:

I wonder if this new theme will be set in "our world" like Hidden Side, Alien Conquest etc. and some of the crazy vehicles will just be one offs built by Mrs Castillo or Mr Oz?   Or if it'll be in some sort of alternate world like Chima/Nexo Knights/Ninjago where Crocodile Cars and Spacebuses are a thing? 

I think I'm hoping for the home world of the heroes to be basically our world, kinda like how Lego City is; but they're accessing the dream world in secret so it's not affecting society at large. Kind of like how the 7 heroes of the Hidden Side theme were fighting Ghosts every night, but most ordinary people had no idea.

7? Did I miscount, because I think there were just 5 in hidden side

Anyway, I think that is the direction the theme is going to go, but (and just a hidden side fan’s dream) what if the new characters from dreamzzz are related to the hidden side characters, that would be a nice tie in, sort of how monsters fighters, galaxy squad, and ultra agents are all related (there’s a Lego club magazine comic that shows lord vampire’s moonstones alert the galaxy squad aliens to come to earth, and after galaxy squad, Solomon blaze joins the ultra agents after fighting in galaxy squad, nick on planet ripple does a great job explaining it)

[Killian]

46 minutes ago, Lemerbrix said:

7? Did I miscount, because I think there were just 5 in hidden side

J.B. Watt

Parker Jackson

Douglas Elton/El Fuego/Mr Elton

Jack Davids

Spencer Davids

Vaughn Geist/ Vaughn Geist Jackson

Seymour TeeVee

 

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I assume Mrs Castillo and Mr Oz will fulfil similar roles to J.B. and Douglas, with Izzy and Matteo being our "Jack and Parker" for the Dreamzzz theme.

Z-Blob or whatever it's called is probably going to be our cute sidekick like Spencer.

I'm hoping with the amount of effort Lego are putting into this theme with a full TV show etc, that it'll be Hidden Side done right and will become an evergreen theme. I feel like if it fails, we may not see a new in-house theme for a long time.

[Lemerbrix]

8 minutes ago, Killian said:

J.B. Watt

Parker Jackson

Douglas Elton/El Fuego/Mr Elton

Jack Davids

Spencer Davids

Vaughn Geist/ Vaughn Geist Jackson

Seymour TeeVee

 

*

I assume Mrs Castillo and Mr Oz will fulfil similar roles to J.B. and Douglas, with Izzy and Matteo being our "Jack and Parker" for the Dreamzzz theme.

Z-Blob or whatever it's called is probably going to be our cute sidekick like Spencer.

I'm hoping with the amount of effort Lego are putting into this theme with a full TV show etc, that it'll be Hidden Side done right and will become an evergreen theme. I feel like if it fails, we may not see a new in-house theme for a long time.

Dang it, I totally forgot about Vaughn, and teevee 

[Mondo-TRON]

On the most recent Brick Clicker video, he mentioned a leak of  the possibility of three waves through summer 2024.

 

Also leaked elsewhere on IG, a GWP set  for Dreamzzz.

[Killian]

2 hours ago, Mondo-TRON said:

Also leaked elsewhere on IG, a GWP set  for Dreamzzz.

Set

Spoiler

 

40657

434 pieces  "Dream Village"

 

Apparently

[Killian]

Just randomly thinking. Lego hasn't reused Jack's hat/hair combo since the Hidden Side theme retired. It'd be cool if Mateo from Dreamzzz has it in a new colour combination. Or even Russell's hat/hair piece from the new Up set in a different colour scheme. We have loads of female hat/hair combo pieces, but not many male.

 

 

[Lemerbrix]

11 minutes ago, Killian said:

Just randomly thinking. Lego hasn't reused Jack's hat/hair combo since the Hidden Side theme retired. It'd be cool if Mateo from Dreamzzz has it in a new colour combination. Or even Russell's hat/hair piece from the new Up set in a different colour scheme. We have loads of female hat/hair combo pieces, but not many male.

 

 

At first I was thinking of the hat/hood element, but kinda weird, it's a very nice hairpiece, Russell's hairpiece will most likely not stay exclusive to the up set for long, though I'm a bit worried because the only other good male hat/hair piece out there is the Dustin/dipper hat piece, and it took us 4 years to get a recolor

[Lion King]

Do we know when Dreamzzz theme will be released?

[Mondo-TRON]

2 hours ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

Do we know when Dreamzzz theme will be released?

August '23 wave 1

[Lion King]

2 hours ago, Mondo-TRON said:

August '23 wave 1

Thank you! I guess we wil seee the offical reveal in July then

[BrickFit26]

Hopefully sooner.

[Lion King]

Do we have a list for Wave 1? Like set names, piece counts, etc?

[Killian]

6 hours ago, Lion King said:

Do we have a list for Wave 1? Like set names, piece counts, etc?

Yeah Bloquerto shared them

On 2/3/2023 at 2:52 AM, Bloquerto said:

Official set names thanks to Promobricks:

71453 Izzie and Bunchu the Bunny 259 pieces - $19.99
71454 Mateo and Z-Blob the Robot 237 pieces - $19.99
71455 Grimkeeper the Cage Monster 274 pieces - $34.99
71456 Mrs. Castillo's Turtle Ballon/Van 434 pieces - $44.99
71457 Pegasus Flying Horse 482 pieces - $49.99
71458 Crocodile Car 494 pieces - $59.99
71459 Stable of the Dream Creatures 681 pieces - $79.99 
71460 Mr. Oz's Spacebus 878 pieces - $89.99
71461 Fantastical Treehouse  1257 pieces - $99.99
71469 Knightmare Shark Ship 1389 pieces - $139.99

https://www.promobricks.de/lego-dreamzzz-vorschau/156553/

 

[Lemerbrix]

When will this be revealed? Hidden side was Announced back in February of 2019, came out in august of 2019, im going to go crazy if its not announced by April…

[The_Fiery_Rooster]

50 minutes ago, Lemerbrix said:

When will this be revealed? Hidden side was Announced back in February of 2019, came out in august of 2019, im going to go crazy if its not announced by April…

Sure, Hidden Side was announced in February (at NYTF), but Monkie Kid was intended to be announced and released on the same day! Lego is super unpredictable when it comes to these things, so there's no point in trying to predict it.