LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Matichado]

2 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

That is not how toy production works

I’m quite tired of the 501st as well, the specialist pack is not army buildable and they are less desirable to me than a new legion would be. Hopefully this means no more 501st going forward though 

they have edited sets at last minute before tho so maybe
 

 

 

Tbh I think what LEGO should’ve done is, keep the old 501st set in stock or just include a regular 501st trooper in the battlepack, that way I would be satisfied, currently I think we still need regular 501st troopers in a cheap set so they can match with the new battlepack, maybe in a multi clone battlepack with: 2 shinies a 501st and a 327th or 21st

Edited May 9, 2023 by Matichado

[Fulcrumfan91]

I think the new LAAT will be cool, not sure that I'll pick it up tho. Im so impatient to see the sets tho 

[Flawless Cowboy]

1 hour ago, Matichado said:

they have edited sets at last minute before tho so maybe
 

 

 

Tbh I think what LEGO should’ve done is, keep the old 501st set in stock or just include a regular 501st trooper in the battlepack, that way I would be satisfied, currently I think we still need regular 501st troopers in a cheap set so they can match with the new battlepack, maybe in a multi clone battlepack with: 2 shinies a 501st and a 327th or 21st

No, we had the 501st battle pack for three years, if you want more, turn to bricklink or eBay or Amazon. 
 

11 minutes ago, Fulcrumfan91 said:

I think the new LAAT will be cool, not sure that I'll pick it up tho. Im so impatient to see the sets tho 

I wanna see the new gunship and ghost bad too. I usually don’t get playsets because of how primitive/compromised their designs are compared to the display sets, but a minifig scale gunship would be amazing, IF it looks good. I hope they don’t ruin it with a carry handle sticking out like a sore thumb

[McMurder_them_softly]

15 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

I hope they don’t ruin it with a carry handle sticking out like a sore thumb

If they do it like 75021, that works for me. It was reasonably well hidden for my taste. 

[Matichado]

7 minutes ago, McMurder_them_softly said:

If they do it like 75021, that works for me. It was reasonably well hidden for my taste. 

Facts mate 

24 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

No, we had the 501st battle pack for three years, if you want more, turn to bricklink or eBay or Amazon. 
 

No, the 501st is arguably the most popular trooper in Star Wars, there should be a regular 501st assault always available in the market but that’s my opinion

 

[Mandalorianknight]

16 hours ago, Hhalcyon said:

Yeah it's fantastic you can sell it for $35 to someone who missed the sale and wants it for some reason. VERY strange way to give out giftcards there Lego, I really would have preferred something i couldn't make on bricklink for 1/10th the promo requirement though. Got it as a bonus to my AT-AT w/ double vip points so i can't complain too much but damn it's worthless lmao.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely love it. As for 1/10th the promo requirement, of course it's that much cheaper to make on BL (aside from the exclusive part) than the threshold. They'd be losing money if they gave it out for like $50 of purchases. Lego's been getting cash-grabby in a lot of ways, but this isn't one of them.

If the only thing that makes a promo "worth it" to you is a figure, I think you're just going to make yourself disappointed. The point of a set, as it almost always is, is the lego set, not just the minifigs.

4 hours ago, omegabadbatch said:

do we really needed 4 332nd clones in swamp speeder? kashyyyk clones would be better really. Its third 501 battlepack

100% agree. Feels like lego's decided that the 501st packs sell well and therefore need 3 battle packs in 4 years. It's absurd. The specialist pack was different enough and came out long enough after the standard pack that I was fine with it, but this new one is just 8 months after the previous pack and is just stock 501st with different helmets... not worth it to me.

4 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

I’m quite tired of the 501st as well, the specialist pack is not army buildable and they are less desirable to me than a new legion would be. Hopefully this means no more 501st going forward though 

I agree in general, though I'd say the specialist pack is 100% army buildable. Maybe not to the extent of those youtubers who buy like 30 copies, but it's definately a set that having 4-5 copies of makes some sense.

1 hour ago, Matichado said:

they have edited sets at last minute before tho so maybe

I mean, they've swapped out a fig or whatever. This would be completely altering the colors of the set, most of it's prints, and changing the set's design to some extent. That's a HUGE change. It's not happening.

[Flawless Cowboy]

54 minutes ago, Matichado said:

Facts mate 

 

There isn’t even an x wing available every single year, don’t get your hopes up. The 501st are nowhere near as iconic as you’re making them out to be, and I say this as a prequel lover. 

 

1 hour ago, McMurder_them_softly said:

If they do it like 75021, that works for me. It was reasonably well hidden for my taste. 

The best way I’ve seen it done is on the 2019 Tantive, where the satellite doubled as a carry handle. The most recent AT-TE on the other hand is what I expect, not obtrusive, but still ugly and occupying space that should be filled in with other details. 

[McMurder_them_softly]

37 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

The best way I’ve seen it done is on the 2019 Tantive, where the satellite doubled as a carry handle. The most recent AT-TE on the other hand is what I expect, not obtrusive, but still ugly and occupying space that should be filled in with other details. 

I do like the Tantive, but for me it seems too bulky for what it could be (though I still enjoy it very much). The AT-TE bothers me much less. Good to see things differently though! 

[NoOneOfImportance]

23 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

After building the death star promo, I've completely turned around on it. I think it's an excellent promo. It looks great, is pretty sizeable, and honestly I greatly prefer it to something like the homestead, figure or not.

Agreed on this. It's a VERY nice promo, and I'm glad to have gotten one. Also nice with some of the Easter Eggs inside it. 

[Hhalcyon]

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely love it. As for 1/10th the promo requirement, of course it's that much cheaper to make on BL (aside from the exclusive part) than the threshold. They'd be losing money if they gave it out for like $50 of purchases. Lego's been getting cash-grabby in a lot of ways, but this isn't one of them.

If the only thing that makes a promo "worth it" to you is a figure, I think you're just going to make yourself disappointed. The point of a set, as it almost always is, is the lego set, not just the minifigs.

What was the exclusive part?

And it's not that I only want a promo to be a figure (though it is the best kind of promo IMO) it's more that I don't want the promo to be a dark stone grey blob. I certainly would have cared less if the other promo was actually ya know... lego... and not a coin? or whatever it actually even is, i own it and i've looked at it and i'm just perplexed by who could have thought people would want that. (for anyone reading along and is confused why i bought it, i was buying an AT-AT w/ double VIP points because i couldn't find a discount, so i kinda just ended up with the promos)

I'm not claiming the promo was a cash grab, im just calling it dumb. They certainly made some new nonsense to make that DS plan thing so it clearly took some real effort and money to make it. Would it not have been VASTLY easier and better to just do a minifigure? Do a slightly updated ROTJ Endor Han. Boom, easy better promo. Reuse head, reuse hair and make a han solo figure with the green trench coat he wore during Endor. It just seems so obvious. We've got pretty much everyone who was in ROTJ available this year aside from Lando, Endor Han and Nien Numb. Nien Numb and Lando could have also made great promos. Alternatively we could have had a number of Jabba's palace scene characters but i'm choosing to assume all the fluff involving the UCS sail barge and throne room diorama disrupted that in some way.

And that's not even mentioning the 20th anniversary Clone Wars promos they could have made this year to just print free money. Step 1: put red markings on a phase 1 clone trooper, call it Captain Fordo, instantly sold out to 2003 clone wars nerds, it's SO EASY it's enfuriating that lego seems to work against itself at times. Alternative: Take episode 2 anakin, replace chest with the bare chest and arms, print blue tribal markings on it and his face, give him a gold hand. 2003 TCW Anakin. Figure would be highly desirable and would be worth like $1000 in 10 years to the 3 people who really really like TCW 2003. AND That's not even accounting for the 2008-2020 clone wars figures they could have made to easily print money. HELL they could literally just do a plain phase 2 clone trooper and in the current climate people would eat it up.

But no we got a grey blob which is (apparently) 99% bricklinkable and a coin nobody asked for.

[Clone OPatra]

Personally I'd never buy a standard colour scheme LAAT, but a dark red one with swanky clones has me seriously interested.

If it's true, that is. The only way it could change is if the source saw super early prelims that were changed later. Promobricks got details of the Harry Potter sets wrong for instance, which were probably things in the prelims they saw. Though not as drastic as changing the whole colour scheme of a set.

[ForgedInLego]

35 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

The only way it could change is if the source saw super early prelims that were changed later.

If I remember correctly, no one has seen any prelims of the build itself, but the color scheme is based off of the parts list and sticker sheet

52 minutes ago, Hhalcyon said:

grey blob

I love my grey blob! You have no idea how much backlash there would be if a highly desirable figure, especially an army buildable one like a P2 shiny was locked behind a GWP, especially with the failure of the website :)

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

Agreed on this. It's a VERY nice promo, and I'm glad to have gotten one. Also nice with some of the Easter Eggs inside it. 

Yeah, I LOVED the easter egg. I almost don't want to spoil it, because it's such a nice little detail that you don't (or at least I didn't) really realize what it was until I finished the section.

1 hour ago, Hhalcyon said:

What was the exclusive part?

And it's not that I only want a promo to be a figure (though it is the best kind of promo IMO) it's more that I don't want the promo to be a dark stone grey blob. I certainly would have cared less if the other promo was actually ya know... lego... and not a coin? or whatever it actually even is, i own it and i've looked at it and i'm just perplexed by who could have thought people would want that. (for anyone reading along and is confused why i bought it, i was buying an AT-AT w/ double VIP points because i couldn't find a discount, so i kinda just ended up with the promos)

I'm not claiming the promo was a cash grab, im just calling it dumb. They certainly made some new nonsense to make that DS plan thing so it clearly took some real effort and money to make it. Would it not have been VASTLY easier and better to just do a minifigure? Do a slightly updated ROTJ Endor Han. Boom, easy better promo. Reuse head, reuse hair and make a han solo figure with the green trench coat he wore during Endor. It just seems so obvious. We've got pretty much everyone who was in ROTJ available this year aside from Lando, Endor Han and Nien Numb. Nien Numb and Lando could have also made great promos. Alternatively we could have had a number of Jabba's palace scene characters but i'm choosing to assume all the fluff involving the UCS sail barge and throne room diorama disrupted that in some way.

And that's not even mentioning the 20th anniversary Clone Wars promos they could have made this year to just print free money. Step 1: put red markings on a phase 1 clone trooper, call it Captain Fordo, instantly sold out to 2003 clone wars nerds, it's SO EASY it's enfuriating that lego seems to work against itself at times. Alternative: Take episode 2 anakin, replace chest with the bare chest and arms, print blue tribal markings on it and his face, give him a gold hand. 2003 TCW Anakin. Figure would be highly desirable and would be worth like $1000 in 10 years to the 3 people who really really like TCW 2003. AND That's not even accounting for the 2008-2020 clone wars figures they could have made to easily print money. HELL they could literally just do a plain phase 2 clone trooper and in the current climate people would eat it up.

But no we got a grey blob which is (apparently) 99% bricklinkable and a coin nobody asked for.

-Sorry, not exclusive. It's in the dioramas as well, the printed brick with the 40th logo. But it alone makes bricklink's "easy buy" feature decide the cheapest US option is $50+ shipping. (which is partially due to the fact that only 3 copies of the brick exist and go for like $3-4, but if anything that just shows even without the brick it's still a chunk of change- $44.7 if you leave the part of the wanted list, to be precise)

Dude, 90% of star wars is light stone grey blobs. Some of the most highly requested sets of the past few years have been light stone grey blobs, shiny stone gray blobs, or light stone grey blobs with red accents.

The middle promo being a non-lego item is something they did last year too. Neither hit for me and I'd agree a figure would be a better move than that, 100%. I don't mind getting either of these for free, the beskar ingot particularly was pretty nice, but I think most people would rather have a figure.

And yeah, I totally agree with you that the coin should have been a figure. My guess is it's significantly cheaper than producing a figure (especially with new prints), since it's just a coin and a piece of- plastic? Fiberglass? Not sure. But I think most people in general- think about general consumers as well, not just us diehards on the forums- would rather have a 298 piece set of an iconic piece of SW than a figure for that highest threshold.

Fordo would have been nice and done well, yeah, especially instead of the coin. Blue markings anakin, though...I can't see that being wanted by more than like 2 people. 

6 minutes ago, ForgedInLego said:

I love my grey blob! You have no idea how much backlash there would be if a highly desirable figure, especially an army buildable one like a P2 shiny was locked behind a GWP, especially with the failure of the website :)

*Flashbacks to when I couldn't get Revan in 2016 because the website died and they sent me a first order stormtrooper instead as if that was at all the same*

49 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Though not as drastic as changing the whole colour scheme of a set.

I think this is what people are missing here. It's not like boxart, where you just make a couple edits to the art and then have the printer or whatever use a different pattern. At the very least, it requires changing the color for a LOT of parts from the set, but more importantly, it's likely going to change the actual design of the set, since it's not like the markings are the same on each gunship. They'd need to change the design at least slightly.

[Per_SW]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 Blue markings anakin, though...I can't see that being wanted by more than like 2 people.

Ok, I'm one of them, who's the other one? :D

Anyway to chime in the promo-debate I too would prefer they go back to minifigs promos (or small builds such as the Lars kitchen), but on the other hand I'm wary about it because it would mean the -already unreliable, as we've all seen- S@H site would be even more overwhelmed and I don't trust their stock estimates to be enough to meet the demand, leaving lots of people without the desired promo.

[PreVizsla]

17 hours ago, omegabadbatch said:

do we really needed 4 332nd clones in swamp speeder? kashyyyk clones would be better really. Its third 501 battlepack

Yes we do need them.
332nd is separate from the 501st and has 144 troopers of the same kind + 16 sergeants + 4 lieutenants and a captain. You can't army build that from the $40 AAT set with one trooper. One trooper that's $20 a piece atm on bricklink while Kashyyyk troopers are $14 and already had their own battle pack for $12. 
The only 501st battle pack comes from 2023 and gives us much needed officer and specialist that can be used as a lieutenant and a sergeant, not only for the 501st, but also for the 332nd army by switching their helmets. They are essential for army building.

The biggest issue imo is that people copy clueless youtubers that stick the same figure on a baseplate and call it army building so they don't really appreciate or understand the importance of officers, sergeants, squad leaders, lieutenants etc that are essential for army building and think of it as uselles and non army buildable.
LEGO should just put 4 of the same figures in a battle pack for people that want to copy Solid Brix Studios and then leadership in a $15 accessory pack for us that want to army build.

[R0Sch]

Here's the Studio file for the Yoda Fountain for anyone wanting to rebrick it 6471930.io and the wanted list 6471930.xml


I used this image to get the part list right, but the torso is the old one from Yoda since the latest one is not in available in Studio library. The BL wanted list is correct though.

P.S. Please don't sell these on ebay.

Edited May 10, 2023 by R0Sch

[Agent Kallus]

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I can't see that being wanted by more than like 2 people. 

 

10 hours ago, Hhalcyon said:

the 3 people who really really like TCW 2003. 

There are dozens of us, dozens!! ( Actually maybe tens of thousands)

[omegabadbatch]

How you all feel about yoda starfighter? Ok lego wanted to put yoda in 35$ set and yoda starfighter is ok option for them beacuse yoda starfighter is from clone wars. How yoda starfighter from 2017 was selling?

Edited May 10, 2023 by omegabadbatch

[AD_Bricks]

14 minutes ago, omegabadbatch said:

How you all feel about yoda starfighter? Ok lego wanted to put yoda in 35$ set and yoda starfighter is ok option for them beacuse yoda starfighter is from clone wars. How yoda starfighter from 2017 was selling?

I don't remember the 2017 one being all too popular, and the lack of a fig besides Yoda and R2 has me really close to just giving up on this new one, and I don't even have the old one. If they wanted to put Yoda in a US$35 TCW set, I bet any given one of us could list a good few better options than this.

Edited May 10, 2023 by AD_Bricks

[omegabadbatch]

3 hours ago, PreVizsla said:

Yes we do need them.
332nd is separate from the 501st and has 144 troopers of the same kind + 16 sergeants + 4 lieutenants and a captain. You can't army build that from the $40 AAT set with one trooper. One trooper that's $20 a piece atm on bricklink while Kashyyyk troopers are $14 and already had their own battle pack for $12. 
The only 501st battle pack comes from 2023 and gives us much needed officer and specialist that can be used as a lieutenant and a sergeant, not only for the 501st, but also for the 332nd army by switching their helmets. They are essential for army building.

The biggest issue imo is that people copy clueless youtubers that stick the same figure on a baseplate and call it army building so they don't really appreciate or understand the importance of officers, sergeants, squad leaders, lieutenants etc that are essential for army building and think of it as uselles and non army buildable.
LEGO should just put 4 of the same figures in a battle pack for people that want to copy Solid Brix Studios and then leadership in a $15 accessory pack for us that want to army build.

good for you. But I think most people were feeling good with their one 332nd clone trooper.They are battalion of 501. If someone have 8 501 clones then only 1 332nd clone is good. People are using 501 clones for Ahsoka too.

[omegabadbatch]

21 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said:

If they wanted to put Yoda in a US$35 TCW set, I bet any given one of us could list a good few better options than this.

snail droid

[AD_Bricks]

4 hours ago, PreVizsla said:

The biggest issue imo is that people copy clueless youtubers that stick the same figure on a baseplate and call it army building so they don't really appreciate or understand the importance of officers, sergeants, squad leaders, lieutenants etc that are essential for army building and think of it as uselles and non army buildable.
LEGO should just put 4 of the same figures in a battle pack for people that want to copy Solid Brix Studios and then leadership in a $15 accessory pack for us that want to army build.

I agree with your point in essence, but I think the dichotomy you've presented is a bit harsh. I reckon heaps, if not most, of the people who would call what they do "army building" to some extent, myself included, just buy one or two extra Snowtrooper BPs, for example, for the purpose of having a better number to represent what they can see in conflict scenes in Star Wars. I don't care all too much for having the right number of each rank or whatever; in terms of the 501st, I'm perfectly satisfied with my troopers from 1x 75280, 2x 75345, and 2x 501st clone magazine foil pack to balance out the regs/rankeds a bit. I'm also very much looking forward to buying just one of this new 332nd set, as with the single one I already have from the AAT (which currently sits w/ my other 501st troops), 4 troopers plus Vaughn will be more than enough for doing some Siege of Mandalore stuff.

Edited May 10, 2023 by AD_Bricks

[McMurder_them_softly]

4 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

There are dozens of us, dozens!! ( Actually maybe tens of thousands)

But my lord, there is no such force! Oops, sorry...wrong franchise 

[Mandalorianknight]

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

There are dozens of us, dozens!! ( Actually maybe tens of thousands)

I love clone wars 03, don't get me wrong. I would have been hyped for a Fordo. Anakin with blue, though? Nah. I would honestly rather have a standard Ep2 anakin, since it's been a decade.

7 hours ago, PreVizsla said:

Yes we do need them.
332nd is separate from the 501st and has 144 troopers of the same kind + 16 sergeants + 4 lieutenants and a captain. You can't army build that from the $40 AAT set with one trooper. One trooper that's $20 a piece atm on bricklink while Kashyyyk troopers are $14 and already had their own battle pack for $12. 

The wolfpack is 576 troopers and hasn't had a figure in almost a decade. If you want to go off the odd idea that people are literally army building the canon amounts of troopers (which would require insane amounts of money to be spent on copies of a single set, I might add), there are better choices than the 332nd.

[Flawless Cowboy]

12 hours ago, PreVizsla said:

Yes we do need them.
332nd is separate from the 501st and has 144 troopers of the same kind + 16 sergeants + 4 lieutenants and a captain. You can't army build that from the $40 AAT set with one trooper. One trooper that's $20 a piece atm on bricklink while Kashyyyk troopers are $14 and already had their own battle pack for $12. 
The only 501st battle pack comes from 2023 and gives us much needed officer and specialist that can be used as a lieutenant and a sergeant, not only for the 501st, but also for the 332nd army by switching their helmets. They are essential for army building.

The biggest issue imo is that people copy clueless youtubers that stick the same figure on a baseplate and call it army building so they don't really appreciate or understand the importance of officers, sergeants, squad leaders, lieutenants etc that are essential for army building and think of it as uselles and non army buildable.
LEGO should just put 4 of the same figures in a battle pack for people that want to copy Solid Brix Studios and then leadership in a $15 accessory pack for us that want to army build.

imo you do you but I personally think it’s silly to army build according to real-life army organization standards when these rules are NOT followed on screen at all, and especially when Lego doesn’t go out of their way to even properly label/include the necessary ranks. An orange pauldron sand trooper is a lieutenant while a white pauldron trooper is a sergeant and a black pauldron trooper is a regular enlisted trooper. These have never been labeled in Lego form, and when these troopers appear on screen during a New Hope, they appear in relatively equal amounts, which doesn’t make any sense if you’re viewing it from the standpoint of army organization. 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Flawless Cowboy