LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[ToaDraco]

17 hours ago, Alex_South said:

that is a bummer, I love everything else about this set, IMO it's still ok since the wings can be rotated to feature the good side from any display angle and I sort of prefer the more horizontal wing positions than the vertical ones where this issue might be more glaring.

Agreed, it's definitely a disappointing decision but at least the wings can be rotated to show the good side in any angle. It's not a big deal to me personally as the T6 is going to get mounted on my wall and the underside will never be seen again.

The product videos do make the Gunship look a lot better in my opinion. I'm absolutely going to get it at some point but I'm prioritizing the T6 on Sept 1st.

Edited August 4, 2023 by ToaDraco

[1340cc]

6 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

What people complain about is incorrect details. The only actual lack I've seen people complain about lately is the lack of kamas, and the poor way they're represented in print instead.

The lack of dual molded legs on most Imperial officers annoys me more than the printed kamas. Lego already makes perfect dual molded DBG/black legs and sells them via their PaB service but most Imperial officer minifigs just get plain DBG legs. Having filled my UCS AT-AT with snowtroopers I can at least understand the issue with cloth kamas and seating minifigs.

[ToaDraco]

32 minutes ago, 1340cc said:

The lack of dual molded legs on most Imperial officers annoys me more than the printed kamas. Lego already makes perfect dual molded DBG/black legs and sells them via their PaB service but most Imperial officer minifigs just get plain DBG legs. Having filled my UCS AT-AT with snowtroopers I can at least understand the issue with cloth kamas and seating minifigs.

The printed instead of physical kamas are the biggest offender to me. The tiny lines of print look awful. If they at least used dual molded legs with black up top to pair with it that would at least help but as you've noted, LEGO refuses to give Star Wars figures dual-molded legs for the most part even if the part already exists in the necessary color combinations.

I still would much rather have cloth kamas and I think if they switched to the softer material they've been using for capes, that would solve the issue with them getting in the way of figures sitting.

Edited August 4, 2023 by ToaDraco

[ArrowBricks]

5 hours ago, Legofan2001 said:

Honestly I think figures peaked in 2012-2014. 

It really felt like the designers completely and utterly cared and respected how their figures were going to be represented. It felt like I was buying a premium product. 

[Llewop]

Has anyone else built the spider tank? Don’t know if I built it wrong but it seems very front heavy. Might have to make a few adjustments. 
 

I am a fan of the swamp speeder but the price of the battle pack is still ridiculous 

[Old Master]

55 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Has anyone else built the spider tank? Don’t know if I built it wrong but it seems very front heavy. Might have to make a few adjustments. 
 

I might go grab one this weekend just for the figs, I really do not care for the build since it's unfortunately way off the source.

[OCD_Chad]

On 8/1/2023 at 11:22 PM, The Stud said:

This may be an unpopular opinion from what I'm seeing but I'm not super excited about what we've heard so far about the 2024 Lego Star Wars lineup. (Also, good lord are we learning things early.) To put it shortly, there's just too many non-playsets for my liking but to put it not so-shortly, here's some of my scatterbrained thoughts:

• I was no fan of the helmets line but I'm shocked and somewhat bummed that it's not continuing next year. They seemed to be good sellers and there was plenty of potential for more.
• The 4+ Crimson Firehawk is cool for Young Jedi Adventures fans as it'll likely include the missing characters from this year's 4+ set. Like that set though, this one just won't be for me.
• The R2-D2 is yet another "why?" set, which Lego seems to be throwing a lot of out lately. (Looking at you Chewie.) I guess it's cool for younger builders and some accounts have mentioned it possibly also having a buildable C-3PO which could help make it stand out from the practically perfect UCS set that's still out. An easy skip regardless.
• The 18+ droideka is neat. Probably not a set I'd be into but maybe the build will blow me away. Cool to see regardless.
• Glad to see fans of midi-scale getting more sets from that line, but again, it's just not for me. 
• I am into collecting the Star Wars dioramas so while I'll probably get these new ones, I'm not particularly hyped about either of them. I like that we're starting to get stuff from the prequels here, though I'm not super thrilled about a microscale podrace. As for the other one, it'll probably make for a nice display piece and it will be nice to get some more Rebel Fleet Troopers in the Tantive IV Boarding set. I'm just hoping we'll get another more exciting diorama as a retail exclusive?
• I'm pretty surprised that we're getting a UCS TIE Interceptor before a standard TIE or an Advanced to go with last year's X-Wing. I like the TIE Interceptor design a lot but a UCS version doesn't interest me personally.

As for the playsets we are getting? I'm really liking what we're getting.

• Getting the Skeleton Crew ship as a large playset in 1HY 2024 is something I've been calling for a while. Those murmurings of the Max Rebo head mold returning are probably related to this set as I believe one of the main characters are of the same species. The set will probably come with Jude Law and the four children characters. I'm trying to collect all of the "Mando-verse" related sets so this one will be a buy for me.
• Grogu's Escape should be a fun little set. I'm expecting just the pram and BARC Speeder with Sidecar as builds, with Grogu, Kelleran Beq and 1-2 Shock Troopers included, which will hopefully bring the value of those latter figures down. This isn't necessarily the "spoilery" Mando S3 set I was hoping for, but cool nonetheless.
• The Clone Trooper vs. Battle Droid Pack is very exciting to me. Getting new Super Battle Droids (I would guess that these ones are most likely going to be less prone to breaking) and an easy way to get a bunch of standard battle droids at once is great. I just hope this set includes P2 shinies, whether it be 2-4. I saw someone throw out the idea of this set paying homage to the original Clone battle pack with two shinies, a 327th and a Coruscant Guard trooper and I'd 100% be down for that. Like the 2020 501st set, I'll likely be getting several copies of this set during its lifespan.

I guess my wallet should be happy that there isn't much here that excites me (and there really isn't much grabbing me from any of the 2024 rumors for other themes either) but man, it kinda sucks to see so few playsets in the first half of the year unless there are some set numbers missing here like others have mentioned. I personally think this is it until next summer unless they are spreading stuff out more next year versus just having a lot coming out in 2HY like usual.

It will be interesting to see what the summer wave looks like next year. For new shows, assuming they don't get pushed around too much due to the current Hollywood strikes, we should be getting The Acolyte, The Bad Batch season 3 and Andor season 2. Lego completely skipped Bad Batch season 2 so I wouldn't be surprised to see them focus more on the other shows, which the former should give us some really cool High Republic-era minifigures at the very least and we could very well be getting the highly desired Fondor haulcraft model to tie-in with the latter. There's also the video game Star Wars: Outlaws due to release in 2024 but Lego will probably skip it like they did with Jedi: Survivor this year. Beyond that, I foresee some more spoilery Mando S3 and Ahsoka sets sprinkled throughout next year's lineup.

I don't think prices on 75095 are bad enough to warrant a remake of the standard TIE yet.

[Llewop]

2 hours ago, Old Master said:

I might go grab one this weekend just for the figs, I really do not care for the build since it's unfortunately way off the source.

The figures are good and like the tie interceptor set I got 2 dark sabres included which is good because I doubt we’ll see them again even though they’ve just made the new mold for it 

[Alex_South]

I really love the coruscant guard gunship and I am excited for reviews to start coming in.

The set scales great with minifigs, it's got minimal stickers and the colors are beautiful. I hope the forward compartment is useful, can't tell if its tall enough for figures or not, also it would be really neat if Reviewers show what different clone legions look like in this set. Obviously the shocktroopers will pair the best but I wonder if the 501st would look okay, the blue might contrast nicely with the deep red.

I will wait to see which other CW/BB era figures and sets are released next year, but if I do a CW themed display I might base it around this vehicle.

[Calanon]

It's pretty cool that they've made such a niche LAAT variant, a shame about the doors. Minifig selection is good although, how did they manage to mess up Fox's torso? The white extends much too far down.

[Old Master]

24 minutes ago, Calanon said:

It's pretty cool that they've made such a niche LAAT variant, a shame about the doors. Minifig selection is good although, how did they manage to mess up Fox's torso? The white extends much too far down.

Set is very cool but they butchered Fox to no ends. Hopefully Grandpa Clone Customs re-releases his version soon enough. That's the standard Lego should aim for going forward...

[Balrogofmorgoth]

3 hours ago, Old Master said:

Set is very cool but they butchered Fox to no ends. Hopefully Grandpa Clone Customs re-releases his version soon enough. That's the standard Lego should aim for going forward...

 Butchered is a very strong word. He’s not perfectly accurate but he still looks great

[Hhalcyon]

1 hour ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

 Butchered is a very strong word. He’s not perfectly accurate but he still looks great

Have you actually seen the in-hand pics? his torso and helmet printing is pink because lego is too cheap or too stupid to figure out a way to print white on red properly.

I'm leaning towards cheap because I'm sure there's some $5 CMF pack for the chronicles of glubjorp dingleberry or some other second rate license lego puts more effort into than star wars which features a figure with white printed on red perfectly fine.

I wouldn't have cared as much if they had ALSO butchered his legs by making them red and printing white on them. Then I could kinda ignore it as "thats just what fox looks like in lego" but when you can see his bright white shins contrasting with his pink chestplate it's maddening.

[Amblyrhynchus]

The fact that they got rid of the flesh printing on the rebel in Yavin 4 might be an indicator that the Tantive set will be more like a battle pack with a diverse group and less of a diorama. 

[Legofan2001]

52 minutes ago, Hhalcyon said:

Have you actually seen the in-hand pics? his torso and helmet printing is pink because lego is too cheap or too stupid to figure out a way to print white on red properly.

I'm leaning towards cheap because I'm sure there's some $5 CMF pack for the chronicles of glubjorp dingleberry or some other second rate license lego puts more effort into than star wars which features a figure with white printed on red perfectly fine.

I wouldn't have cared as much if they had ALSO butchered his legs by making them red and printing white on them. Then I could kinda ignore it as "thats just what fox looks like in lego" but when you can see his bright white shins contrasting with his pink chestplate it's maddening.

What about the fact that his torso is literally inaccurate to all source material.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

18 minutes ago, Amblyrhynchus said:

The fact that they got rid of the flesh printing on the rebel in Yavin 4 might be an indicator that the Tantive set will be more like a battle pack with a diverse group and less of a diorama. 

Ooh, good point. That would definitely work, in the same vein as Luke & the Dark Troopers worked as a sort of battle pack even if it had a named character. Plus you can easily mod it to create a longer hallway if you buy multiple.

[Hhalcyon]

12 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

What about the fact that his torso is literally inaccurate to all source material.

Look, he's a little stubby plastic figure who is as wide as his arm is long, i don't care about a little innaccuracy here and there I mean that guy has no neck. One plate of armor is red instead of white? minor mistake in the grand scheme of things...

But the pink print... that's just low quality, poor production, industrial incompetence. If you showed that to someone who's never even seen fox, even they'd see it's poor quality because the white doesn't match his legs. Things I'd expect out of 1999 Lego, not 2023 Lego. Lazy design is annoying but expected, but outright low quality print? that's just insulting because the designers can at least feign stupidity like when that one gormless chimp called the republic gunship an original trilogy ship and made up some nonsense about clone pilots but they've gone out of their way to photoshop their lifestyle images to not show the faded pink printing of Fox. That's not stupity, that's not laziness. That's downright malicous false advertising. Like the 212th helmet but 2x worse because it affects pretty much 70% of the detail of the figure (the helmet and torso)

Now you combine that with the pathetic printed kama, the innaccurate design elements (i.e his chest plate) and you have a figure that can VERY well be called "butchered" I mean we pretty much have a clone trooper figure where the only part of him that isn't either poorly printed or incorrectly designed is the foot printing. THE FEET. All that's left of Fox that i can tolerate looking at. And I say that as a pretty lenient fan of clone troopers, I quite happily bought many of the 212th troopers because I didn't mind how the figure looked despite the botched helmet but Commander Fox here is just pure trash from the ankles up.

I mean look at the absurd quality of the printing on that new marvel CMF line. THEY HAVE PRINTING ON THE SIDE OF THEIR LEGS. I didn't even know lego could do that. Then look at commander fox's in hand pics. Lego star wars needs to get at least one guy to do some quality assurance. Quite frankly if Lego's big bosses decided to literally fire every single person in the lego star wars department who does ANYTHING for minifigures and replace them all. We'd probably get better product. Especially if the person designing the fantastic $15 boba fett mech's figure, the new bo-katan or the inquisitors is the same person designing the clone troopers because that's just malice at that point. They're CHOOSING to not try.

[Alex_South]

21 hours ago, Legofan2001 said:

Honestly I think figures peaked in 2012-2014. Like that Queen Amidala from 2012 and 2013 Padme are peak. Heck not to mention how incredible the 2013 Dooku,ROTS 2014 Clones,all the 2012-2013 Jabba Figures are. 

it's all subjective opinion but this feels like mostly a nostalgia take, arm printing was nonexistent back then, and dual molding seemed just as scarce, same with boot printing, it was a peak for clone wars army builder content sure, but I prefer modern builds to the ones from back then, and the figures over all are a lot better, way more arm printing these days. For example, I like the new rex a lot more than the old rex, I think the design is more refined. To each their own though.

The one valid whinge IMO would be the print QC issues, and lego will probably ignore those ever happened even after they get their HP Laserjet fixed, like nintendo with joycon drift, but that's just how companies be.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Alex_South

[Gontron]

I think the kama issue is way worse than the printing inconsistencies or "helmet holes". They're okay on Snow Troopers but look awful on Rex and Fox, who are both named characters in very expensive sets. 

[Alex_South]

eh, the rest of the graphic design on rex is so much better than the original IMO that I can put up with the kama prints.

[Shiva]

On 8/3/2023 at 2:07 PM, Fulcrumfan91 said:

Oh dear....the T-6 is missing red bricks on the other side of the ship so it looks asymmetrical....how on earth did Lego miss that...thats bad.

https://youtu.be/S6CURF6GJJQ

 

Ahh, the underside of the wing.

Stability issues, or maybe rather, that price would got bigger with the parts needed?

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, Amblyrhynchus said:

The fact that they got rid of the flesh printing on the rebel in Yavin 4 might be an indicator that the Tantive set will be more like a battle pack with a diverse group and less of a diorama. 

I would not be a huge fan of them making the rebels in that set not based off the ones in the hallway scene (either ANH or Rogue One). I want my sets to look like the scenes they represent, and not be intentionally inaccurate.

3 hours ago, Gontron said:

I think the kama issue is way worse than the printing inconsistencies or "helmet holes". They're okay on Snow Troopers but look awful on Rex and Fox, who are both named characters in very expensive sets. 

The kamas are my only issue with the clones (aside from how many 501st type sets we're getting), but they are a big one. The cloth kamas were such a fun bit of customization and made your commanders look unique in a way that a bit of printing on the front of the legs just doesn't.

[ARC2149Nova]

5 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I would not be a huge fan of them making the rebels in that set not based off the ones in the hallway scene (either ANH or Rogue One). I want my sets to look like the scenes they represent, and not be intentionally inaccurate.

This, 1000%. If you want to toss some diverse heads under some stormies, whatever, but we actually see who made up the bulk of the Tantive IV's security force. If Lego wants to mix things up with the RFTs, they can make another battle pack.

I am curious to see how many figures the set comes with though. My guess is probably Vader, 2x Stormtroopers and 3x Rebels, or 2 rebels and Captain Antilles, but we'll see.

[Shrimp]

On 7/19/2023 at 7:34 AM, Ondra said:

Seriously, whats going on with lego like last ten sets for adults are straight to the bin material.

Bummer

Well that is a bit exaggerated, so far only the Chewbacca set is horrible. But its all personal taste anyway.

[PsychoBuilder]

Alright, the more I’ve looked at the gunship, the more I’ve liked it to be honest. It’s not all upgrades across the board like the AT-TE—there are some things I really don’t love, such as the lack of double doors, the color scheme, and the size, and there are reasonable arguments to be made about the Minifigure quality and selection. That said, I think it’s a vast improvement off of the previous ones, even the 2013. Even though I have some complaints about the Minifigures, I think that both the selection (although there’s a very real argument to make that the first one had the best figure selection) and quality are so much better than the last gunship—it didn’t even have as many clones. In addition, it looks a lot less boxy and a lot more neat. I think this may be a bit like the 2007 vs the 2014 MTT. While the 2007 one is much bigger, this one captures the shape a lot better and looks much smoother than the other one. I feel like this looks much closer to the mocs of the gunship than the older sets looked, and I’ve always had complaints about the doors being too awkwardly shaped. I’m thinking I might get one and then get the pieces to convert it into a regular one, or redesign it in Studio.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Brickroll