LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[betaplayer]

6 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Fondor with Luthan, Saw, and Tubes hopium! 

After the Ahsoka wave and the critical success Andor was, I would hope they do a similar 3 set wave for Andor, with at least the Fondor. Their are plenty of (classic/Rogue one) characters to cover.

[ArrowBricks]

36 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

S3 Moff is a pretty safe guess, though; we got him before, and his Mando Dark Trooper suit is too cool for LEGO not to make. I am not sure that Lifebricks actually knows anything. 🫤
 

LifeBricks does know stuff. 

As I said his network of informants is completely unchecked, hence why he is not always accurate. Far from it. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

8 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

LifeBricks does know stuff. 

As I said his network of informants is completely unchecked, hence why he is not always accurate. Far from it. 

Yeah, makes for some nice clickbait, but to us, his “knowledge” is pretty useless if there’s only like a 50% chance he actually gets something right  I‘d rather have no information than half-truths

[Mandalorianknight]

12 hours ago, Renown said:

A word to the wise: if you lack the intelligence to interpret the nuance in an "unnecessary riddle", it's probably best not to slate people in Discord servers. 

Guys, leave Renown be. He doesn't owe you direct info (or any info), riddles are better then nothing, and some of us enjoy trying to puzzle them out. If you keep insulting the guy over how he chooses to give out his information (And there are much, MUCH worse ways IMO. He's not creating a spammy social media presence where you have to slog through a ton of stuff to get to the info, and he's not making a patreon or something where he asks for money for it.), he might stop giving it out, and I'll remind you he was the first one to tell us Fives was coming, KOTOR/Malak was coming, and IIRC many other things like Ponda Baba/Evazon, B2 battle droids in the 2024 battle pack, etc.

[Flieger]

20 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Hold on, you can't compare KOTOR to the high republic. So many more people know KOTOR, and more importantly, so many more people LIKE KOTOR. It's considered a gold standard of the franchise, whereas the high republic has been consistently controversial, and as @Flieger says, struggling sales-wise. 

Lucasfilm has been really pushing it, with the animated and live action shows out/in development, but I don't think lego would have the gall to give us Malak, Fives, and then... some HR jedi? The rock thing?

Obviously KotoR has a pull still, otherwise people would not be bothered redoing it. The fanbase might be older now but that is pretty much exactly target demographic of at least a part of Lego's sets; i.e. AFOLs.

Expressing mere doubts that the HR-fanbase is – as of that moment – significant enough for Lego to have commercial success (backed up by hard numbers, not feelings, mind you), is not degrading people's interest.

I for one love the Solo-Movie but I will not be seen lashing out at people who correctly note its commercial failure and thus the reduced likelihood of more Solo sets. I will not been seen actively othering people by using politicized terms like "echo-chamber" (which has been used by both sides of an ugly discussion, btw., and should be banned from this forum for its toxicity).

 

For me it is more that I need some emotional connection to the source material to enjoy a Lego set (= paying money, which is what Lego wants in the first place). I and, judging by the sales figures, most other people do not have it with HR yet.

That might change. I for one hope it does. You know, "hope" ... that Star Wars thing.

[ArrowBricks]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yeah, makes for some nice clickbait, but to us, his “knowledge” is pretty useless if there’s only like a 50% chance he actually gets something right  I‘d rather have no information than half-truths

I get what you’re saying, and yes he loves a good old clickbait. Most of the time I do roll my eyes because he loves the power of having “knowledge”. 

But, he has proven to have insider stuff every now and then. 

[Pedilego]

It’s safe to say that TLG does market research (e.g. looking at product selection of other companies). Hasbro has been releasing a variety of KOTOR figures. Mostly version of Revan but, still, it does indicate there’s interest to justify their additional releases. I’m sincerely not sure what market comps TLG could make for High Republic.

 

21 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

I get what you’re saying, and yes he loves a good old clickbait. Most of the time I do roll my eyes because he loves the power of having “knowledge”. 

But, he has proven to have insider stuff every now and then. 

Thanks for your responses.

He’s hit-or-miss & he knows it. I suspect this is more likely to be a hit than his others so my post was for those that enjoys following -reasonably possible- rumors. For the folks reading only interested in PromoBricks or Renown-level leaks: ignore his info.

Edited October 11, 2023 by Pedilego

[MKJoshA]

1 hour ago, Flieger said:

Expressing mere doubts that the HR-fanbase is – as of that moment – significant enough for Lego to have commercial success (backed up by hard numbers, not feelings, mind you), is not degrading people's interest.

 

I for one love the Solo-Movie but I will not be seen lashing out at people who correctly note its commercial failure and thus the reduced likelihood of more Solo sets. I will not been seen actively othering people by using politicized terms like "echo-chamber" (which has been used by both sides of an ugly discussion, btw., and should be banned from this forum for its toxicity).

This is well said. Discussion on the forum has been especially toxic this week. If things don't improve I will have to lock the thread. Please don't do that to the other members here.

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, Flieger said:

Obviously KotoR has a pull still, otherwise people would not be bothered redoing it. The fanbase might be older now but that is pretty much exactly target demographic of at least a part of Lego's sets; i.e. AFOLs.

Expressing mere doubts that the HR-fanbase is – as of that moment – significant enough for Lego to have commercial success (backed up by hard numbers, not feelings, mind you), is not degrading people's interest.

I for one love the Solo-Movie but I will not be seen lashing out at people who correctly note its commercial failure and thus the reduced likelihood of more Solo sets. I will not been seen actively othering people by using politicized terms like "echo-chamber" (which has been used by both sides of an ugly discussion, btw., and should be banned from this forum for its toxicity).

For me it is more that I need some emotional connection to the source material to enjoy a Lego set (= paying money, which is what Lego wants in the first place). I and, judging by the sales figures, most other people do not have it with HR yet.

That might change. I for one hope it does. You know, "hope" ... that Star Wars thing.

I think you quoted the wrong guy, I was agreeing with you that KoToR seems to have a much stronger pull-even today- than the high republic.

[Flieger]

11 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think you quoted the wrong guy, I was agreeing with you that KoToR seems to have a much stronger pull-even today- than the high republic.

Don't worry I was agreeing with you, too; I just used that as a starting point for another issue. So all is well :)

[kidtheboss611]

7 hours ago, betaplayer said:

After the Ahsoka wave and the critical success Andor was, I would hope they do a similar 3 set wave for Andor, with at least the Fondor. Their are plenty of (classic/Rogue one) characters to cover.

I think Andor's problem, regarding Lego coverage, is that it's not geared toward young under-18 SW fans and toy makers. Some scenes are far more violent than your average SW project in the Disney era. The new characters are also not made to sell toys and many of the locations, ships, & characters aren't going to be a hit with children. The show itself is more popular with adults and I think that is reflected in Lego's coverage. 

I do think we'll see a Lego set for S2 but its highly unlikely we get a 3-set wave like Ahsoka. Ahsoka is far more popular than Cassian Andor and the characters from her show are more recognizable than Andor's new additions. They could maybe do a U-Wing Remake or something else that has crossover in the leadup to Andor but other than that I don't see the show's ships and characters getting a ton of Lego coverage. Personally, I loved Andor and I really hope we get all the new characters and I hope we get Luthen's ship but I just doubt it. 

[Kaijumeister]

I think the appeal behind most Star Wars sets that aren’t just <grey polygon> is they can objectively look appealing regardless of what they’re based on, although really that can be said for any Lego set.

Even if Andor doesn’t have the appeal towards younger audiences or THR lacks the pull because it’s still mostly a publishing initiative (though The Acolyte will change that paradigm), something like a Cavern Angels X-Wing with Saw / Two-Tubes etc. or a Jedi Vector with some characters in the white / gold High Republic livery will certainly look fantastic on shelves. The scope of Star Wars content is ever-expanding for better or worse, but it’s at least growing at a rate that doesn’t just seem as unsustainable as, say, the MCU. We’ve certainly seen that Lego had a learning curve with the way they’ve been investing more and more sets in the TV shows.

Little back on topic, but given we’re learning quite a lot of information for 1HY24 now, I wonder if it’s at all likely to learn what’s coming next summer fairly soon - can’t say I’m keen to wait until February onwards for the first rumours to drop. I need at least a couple more Ahsoka sets damn it.

 

Edited October 11, 2023 by Kaijumeister

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Flieger said:

Don't worry I was agreeing with you, too; I just used that as a starting point for another issue. So all is well :)

Ah. My mistake. I definitely (I spelled that right this time, where's that one guy?) agree with your point too, as a fellow Solo fan who recognizes we aren't getting lego solo anytime soon.

1 hour ago, kidtheboss611 said:

I think Andor's problem, regarding Lego coverage, is that it's not geared toward young under-18 SW fans and toy makers. Some scenes are far more violent than your average SW project in the Disney era. The new characters are also not made to sell toys and many of the locations, ships, & characters aren't going to be a hit with children. The show itself is more popular with adults and I think that is reflected in Lego's coverage. 

I do think we'll see a Lego set for S2 but its highly unlikely we get a 3-set wave like Ahsoka. Ahsoka is far more popular than Cassian Andor and the characters from her show are more recognizable than Andor's new additions. They could maybe do a U-Wing Remake or something else that has crossover in the leadup to Andor but other than that I don't see the show's ships and characters getting a ton of Lego coverage. Personally, I loved Andor and I really hope we get all the new characters and I hope we get Luthen's ship but I just doubt it. 

I could see the Haulcraft showing up as a midi-scale or even a first non-gimmick 18+ set, but I agree with the wider point that lego won't do much for Andor. I view it similarly to why we won't get sets for, say, Better Call Saul. It's incredible televesion, but regardless of standard ratings (I.e. sex, drug usage, violence), it's simply too mature of a show for most kids to be into. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

[…] it's simply too mature of a show for most kids to be into. 

And most of the characters would not make for cool-looking minifigs, except for Saw and Two Tubes. They just look like regular humans, so even if kids liked the show, I doubt many would want minifigs of them 

[Llewop]

Realistically after watching all of Ahsoka I feel like there isn’t really that many sets they can make. Lots of figures but location/vehicle is quite limited seeing as we got most of the cast in the first 3 sets. 

like would anyone buy a final Morgan vs Ashoka duel set? right now the only thing I could see is an imperial drop ship featuring the new stormtroopers and maybe Ezra.

I think they’ll do a chimera set but honestly I think that will be saved for the Filoni film. Depending on how many battlepacks a year we are going to be getting we could get one with just the new stormtroopers but from the Disney plus shows there are already 5/6 battle packs they could have done for imperials that they haven’t so I’m not that hopeful. 

[AD_Bricks]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

definitely (I spelled that right this time, where's that one guy?)

Congratulations! Your efforts are much appreciated.

[TheScaryDoor]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I could see the Haulcraft showing up as a midi-scale or even a first non-gimmick 18+ set, but I agree with the wider point that lego won't do much for Andor. I view it similarly to why we won't get sets for, say, Better Call Saul. It's incredible televesion, but regardless of standard ratings (I.e. sex, drug usage, violence), it's simply too mature of a show for most kids to be into. 

I think you and the others have a point. On the other hand Lego made a couple of sets for Rogue One which I also don't consider standard Star Wars for Kids. But also at that time there was not so much Star Wars to pick from like it is today.

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said:

I think you and the others have a point. On the other hand Lego made a couple of sets for Rogue One which I also don't consider standard Star Wars for Kids. But also at that time there was not so much Star Wars to pick from like it is today.

But in contrast to Andor, Rogue One had multiple cool new ships (U-Wing, Krennic‘s Shuttle, TIE Striker) and eye-catching character designs (K2, Chirut, Death Troopers, Shoretroopers, Hovertank Pilots, Raddus, and Moroff, just to name a few). Andor has one awesome ship, but no new troopers or other visual stand-outs

Edited October 12, 2023 by BrickBob Studpants

[betaplayer]

16 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

But in contrast to Andor, Rogue One had multiple cool new ships (U-Wing, Krennic‘s Shuttle, TIE Striker) and eye-catching character designs (K2, Chirut, Death Troopers, Shoretrooprs, Hovertank Pilots, Raddus, and Moroff, just to name a few). Andor has one awesome ship, but no new troopers or other visual stand-outs

However, a lot of ships which are or will be in Andor, overlap with rogue one or other classic Star Wars media.

X-wings, Tie fighters, U-wings... Andor is a good excuses to re-release a variant of these ships with some much wanted figures. We'll also see figures like K2SO and B2EMO re-appear. Such sets wouldn't suffer that much from the lack of interest from kids imo?

[ArrowBricks]

No reason why they couldn’t just up the recommended ages on Andor sets. 

Admittedly, there’s only a few actual potential sets, anyway. 

[TheScaryDoor]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

But in contrast to Andor, Rogue One had multiple cool new ships (U-Wing, Krennic‘s Shuttle, TIE Striker) and eye-catching character designs (K2, Chirut, Death Troopers, Shoretroopers, Hovertank Pilots, Raddus, and Moroff, just to name a few). Andor has one awesome ship, but no new troopers or other visual stand-outs

Well you have besides the Fondor, Mon Mothmas Car and a small imperial vehicle at the end. Also you have a new droid, imperial officiers, character from Rogue One, several Rebels etc. 

You are not wrong but there is something but maybe Lego waits until S2.

[Kdapt-Preacher]

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

But in contrast to Andor, Rogue One had multiple cool new ships (U-Wing, Krennic‘s Shuttle, TIE Striker) and eye-catching character designs (K2, Chirut, Death Troopers, Shoretroopers, Hovertank Pilots, Raddus, and Moroff, just to name a few). Andor has one awesome ship, but no new troopers or other visual stand-outs

There are a ton of people cosplaying as the Narkina V prisoners, though. It definitely didn't have as much new content as Rogue One, but what it had is making a splash (so to speak...).

[PRbrickbuilder]

The irony is that Andor had two characters which are long overdue in LEGO form: Saw and Mom Mothma. The former was never made in minifig form, and has already also appeared in RO, Rebels, and the videogame. The latter also has several appearances, and only a minifig lost in past, which needs update.

[Flieger]

9 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Andor has one awesome ship, but no new troopers

Well, I would enjoy a bunch of minifig Imperial Security Troopers (basically black Mudtroopers with riot shields), also imperial officers with their great coats (around since R1).
While they are not as flashy as another Stormtrooper variant, I think there is a place for them. The aftermarket prices of the Han Solo-Mudtrooper indicates at least a small interest.

But yes, overall the minifig potential of Andor was not great. Also I want the Night Troopers before any other types trooper anyway...

 

20 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Ah. My mistake. I definitely (I spelled that right this time, where's that one guy?) agree with your point too, as a fellow Solo fan who recognizes we aren't getting lego solo anytime soon.

The good news is that if they visit this era in animation, there is a chance, however small, of getting Dryden Vos one day. He already made it to The Clone Wars, after all.

[Mandalorianknight]

5 minutes ago, Flieger said:

The good news is that if they visit this era in animation, there is a chance, however small, of getting Dryden Vos one day. He already made it to The Clone Wars, after all.

We definately could, since Crimson Dawn has been established in other material as a big syndicate.

7 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

No reason why they couldn’t just up the recommended ages on Andor sets. 

I'm telling you guys, an 18+ Fondor would be a great idea to slot into the one of the 1HY midi scale/helmet/diorama options.

13 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said:

I think you and the others have a point. On the other hand Lego made a couple of sets for Rogue One which I also don't consider standard Star Wars for Kids. But also at that time there was not so much Star Wars to pick from like it is today.

No, but Rogue One was still a movie, featuring a lot of iconic locations/vehicles from star wars. 

14 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

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