LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[AD_Bricks]

38 minutes ago, Gontron said:

2 on the left, 1 in the middle, 1 on the right. The Heavy (left most) will most likely have a different torso and helmet print while the Specialist/Sniper (right most) will have a normal torso with 2 small marks on the chest. The Officer (middle) will probably have a unique kama/leg print. 

Ok, cool, thanks, that's what I thought.

[storskogen]

Very happy to finally see a TIE Bomber, I think the size will still be respectable (compared to the most recent TIE fighters and previous TIEs) and the price very attractive. Personally, I would be happy with a Bomber without a pilot, so a pilot, Vader and a Gonk are all welcome. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

9 minutes ago, storskogen said:

I would be happy with a Bomber without a pilot, so a pilot, Vader and a Gonk are all welcome. 

As cool as a new Bomber is, the currently known minifig selection is megablocks. The pilot is an obvious inclusion, but what are Vader and a Gonk doing here? I seriously hope the final version includes something more interesting. The often suggested Ozzel isn‘t exactly the most exciting character ever introduced in SW, but I‘d prefer him over Vader #435 any day  

[ArrowBricks]

5 hours ago, Gontron said:

2 on the left, 1 in the middle, 1 on the right. The Heavy (left most) will most likely have a different torso and helmet print while the Specialist/Sniper (right most) will have a normal torso with 2 small marks on the chest. The Officer (middle) will probably have a unique kama/leg print. 

The officer could be the infiltration class, so a standard Arc Trooper. I think everyone would prefer that.

[MaximillianRebo]

I think part of the reason TLG doesn't seem to be trying too hard with the TIE Bomber figs is that they think it will sell regardless of figure selection, and as one of the few OT vehicles that hasn't been seen in forever, they're probably correct. No need to put in a Dodonna to sweeten the deal on this one. While an Ozzel or Piett would be great, I'd like to see them go the 'conflict' route and throw in an ESB Han or Leia, preferably with breathing apparatus. But that's just a pipedream. Regarding the Gonk, I'd speculate that the designer had something leftover in their budget/piece count and used it for a Gonk droid because why not.

Size wise the ship is almost certainly going to scale with last year's TIE. Any larger than that, especially at the scale of the Solo TIE, and the model becomes prohibitively expensive.

[ArrowBricks]

38 minutes ago, MaximillianRebo said:

I think part of the reason TLG doesn't seem to be trying too hard with the TIE Bomber figs is that they think it will sell regardless of figure selection, and as one of the few OT vehicles that hasn't been seen in forever, they're probably correct. No need to put in a Dodonna to sweeten the deal on this one. While an Ozzel or Piett would be great, I'd like to see them go the 'conflict' route and throw in an ESB Han or Leia, preferably with breathing apparatus. But that's just a pipedream. Regarding the Gonk, I'd speculate that the designer had something leftover in their budget/piece count and used it for a Gonk droid because why not.

Size wise the ship is almost certainly going to scale with last year's TIE. Any larger than that, especially at the scale of the Solo TIE, and the model becomes prohibitively expensive.

I just would have liked an extra stormtrooper, or Officer. Heck even a new Jetpack Stormtrooper from battlefront.

Anything really to give it that extra flavour. 

[Graupensuppe]

14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Nice balance of OT, mandoverse, and PT 

No PT sets at all, unless Cody's helmet turns out to be phase 2 instead of phase 1...

1 hour ago, MaximillianRebo said:

I think part of the reason TLG doesn't seem to be trying too hard with the TIE Bomber figs is that they think it will sell regardless of figure selection, and as one of the few OT vehicles that hasn't been seen in forever, they're probably correct.

In the 2020 interview they didn't expect a TIE Bomber to sell well at all and called it too niche for a regular set.

[BrickBob Studpants]

14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Nice balance of OT, mandoverse, and PT

Not really. There is only one PT-era playset, no sets based on stuff set between the PT and OT (Andor, TBB, Kenobi), no ST sets, no TBoBF set.

Bet that stuff will come in 2HY, just like the last two years. As I’ve said at the end of last year, I just wish they balanced things out more. Now, 1HY seems to be mostly OT remakes with a couple other sets sprinkled in while the 2HY waves go all in with actual new and exciting material.

For instance, this year they easily could‘ve released Obi-Wan‘s Jedi Starfighter in January to spice that wave up a bit!

Same goes for the minifigs. Just compare the last two year’s 1HY selection with their 2HY counterparts, it‘s night and day!

[MaximillianRebo]

39 minutes ago, Graupensuppe said:

In the 2020 interview they didn't expect a TIE Bomber to sell well at all and called it too niche for a regular set.

I'd have to go back and reread that interview but I thought it was more about a TIE Bomber being too expensive at the scale they were working in at the time. I guess it is niche - it has, what, less than 10 seconds of screen time in TESB? To be honest I mostly know it from growing up with the OT and playing a lot of X-Wing and TIE Fighter back in the day.

[Mandalorianknight]

12 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Won't the 2 heavies' helmets be different too?

You're right, I missed that. 

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

As cool as a new Bomber is, the currently known minifig selection is megablocks. The pilot is an obvious inclusion, but what are Vader and a Gonk doing here? I seriously hope the final version includes something more interesting. The often suggested Ozzel isn‘t exactly the most exciting character ever introduced in SW, but I‘d prefer him over Vader #435 any day  

I agree that the figure selection is bad, but IMO it's quantity of figures that's the issue. We're getting two minifigs and a brick built gonk in a $65 set... that's crazy. But the TIE Pilot and Vader are both solid choices. Vader is still fairly expensive on sites like BL when you account for how common he is, usually around $15-20 for any variant.

4 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

Size wise the ship is almost certainly going to scale with last year's TIE. Any larger than that, especially at the scale of the Solo TIE, and the model becomes prohibitively expensive.

I agree. A bomber scaled to the solo TIE would easily be $100+. 

2 hours ago, Graupensuppe said:

No PT sets at all, unless Cody's helmet turns out to be phase 2 instead of phase 1...

In the 2020 interview they didn't expect a TIE Bomber to sell well at all and called it too niche for a regular set.

... we're really gonna play semantics here? Fine, PT-era. Which nets us 3 sets.

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Not really. There is only one PT-era playset, no sets based on stuff set between the PT and OT (Andor, TBB, Kenobi), no ST sets, no TBoBF set.

First of all, did anyone WANT any of these sets to be replaced with ST sets?

Second, I find the "only one PT playset" disengenous. While that's technically correct, the PT era is also getting two $70 helmets. For the entire time the helmets were OT or mando only, people complained about how they needed to make PT helmets. Now that we're getting them, they don't count?

If you look at the sets we know are coming, it's:

1 TBOBF microfighter (potentially OT, but I'd be willing to bet it's TBOBF)

1 PT era battle pack

1 OT playset

2 PT helmets

2 Mando playsets

2 OT dioramas

Seems pretty balanced to me.

Edited August 21, 2022 by Mandalorianknight

[Big_Daddy]

Well let's see...

• Slave 1 Microfighter: might be fun, I might even pick it up if OT Boba is included.
• 501st specialist BP: sounds really cool, would have been great if it was based on the OG BF2 game (airborne trooper helmet snipers!) but still, it's definitely on my list.
• TIE Bomber: since I own the 2003 version since... 2003 I think, I probably won't pick it up. I do hope it's not too big though, that would bode well for future sets... especially starfighters have been too big IMO since at least that humongous 7674 Torrent.
• Helmets, UCS set and Brickheadz: don't care for them, personally I find it a shame that they take slots from other possible sets, but well, there are people who like them so I'll just be happy for those people. And my bank account.
• Dioramas: same as with the helmets, I would be way more interested if they were "normal" sets.
• Mando sets: unlikely that I will be interested but who knows?

Well at least one set that I actually want, so that's good

[BrickBob Studpants]

12 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

First of all, did anyone WANT any of these sets to be replaced with ST sets?

Actually, yes. As long as they refuse to give us Babu Frik and The Senate in his TROS robes, I will keep harping on it  They could've released an awesome Exegol set, but instead they're already gonna release the second DS duel set since TROS came out!

As for Frik, I'm hoping for

the Mando S3 sets. Members of his species will be featured after all, as seen in the leaked trailer!

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

28 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

First of all, did anyone WANT any of these sets to be replaced with ST sets?

You seriously can’t be that naïve that you think that because you don’t like something, that must be the case for everyone else.

The majority of Star Wars fans don’t hate Star Wars, they’re just the vocal majority online. 
 

I’m personally very sick of Lego’s set choices, because the vast majority of them are all OT or Clone-based sets. Meanwhile there’s so many sets that could be/deserve to be made from the rest of the prequels (not just clones), the sequels, and all of the recent Disney+ shows.

[Mandalorianknight]

12 minutes ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

You seriously can’t be that naïve that you think that because you don’t like something, that must be the case for everyone else.

The majority of Star Wars fans don’t hate Star Wars, they’re just the vocal majority online. 
 

I’m personally very sick of Lego’s set choices, because the vast majority of them are all OT or Clone-based sets. Meanwhile there’s so many sets that could be/deserve to be made from the rest of the prequels (not just clones), the sequels, and all of the recent Disney+ shows.

I don't dislike... well I don't dislike TFA at any rate, and a Black One remake has been on my wishlist for years. I have no idea how you decided that I must hate the sequels and think everyone else does too. But seriously, look at this site. There are not very many requests for sequel sets.

As for the last part, there's sort of a two-pronged thing there:

Yeah, there are a lot of OT and clone sets...because that's what sells best. 

Plus, I'm not sure how you think the vast majority is only OT and clones. Look at the 2020-2023 set list, if you will: Just off the top of my head, we've got: a fallen order set, at least 8 mandalorian sets, 2 kenobi sets, at least 4 PT era sets without clones involved, 2 TBOBF sets, an Andor set, the list goes on. My guess is if you crunch the numbers for 2020-2022 (the post-new-film-every-year-era), you'd get roughly 50-60% being OT or clones. Which seems pretty fair to me, since that's the most well-known and well-recieved films + the most popular characters from another trilogy. And while certainly a slight majority, it's not an overwhelming or vast one. 

27 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Actually, yes. As long as they refuse to give us Babu Frik and The Senate in his TROS robes, I will keep harping on it  They could've released an awesome Exegol set, but instead they're already gonna release the second DS duel set since TROS came out!

As for Frik, I'm hoping for

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the Mando S3 sets. Members of his species will be featured after all, as seen in the leaked trailer!

 

Ok, you got me there. We do need an exogol set. But I'm gonna come back to my theory that the gimmick style sets have OT for the first few years since it sells best before branching out. I bet in 2024 we'll see at the very least a mandalorian diorama, if not PT ones, assuming the two upcoming dioramas don't crash and burn (which I don't think they would, but you never know)

Edited August 21, 2022 by Mandalorianknight

[jdubbs]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Actually, yes. As long as they refuse to give us Babu Frik and The Senate in his TROS robes, I will keep harping on it  They could've released an awesome Exegol set, but instead they're already gonna release the second DS duel set since TROS came out!

Though I don't necessarily want any of the January/April sets to be replaced by them, I too would welcome more ST sets, so long as they aren't rehashes of OT sets like the ones that dominated the lineup over the ST run. There are plenty of compelling designs from TROS, and even a few from TLJ that would make good sets (skimmer, the other Pasana speeder, Exegol of course, the Resistance lander, Kylo's TIE, Death Star ruins, and so on), and loads of minifigs we have yet to get.. Leia appeared in several distinct outfits and yet we only ever got one ST version of her, for instance. 

[ArrowBricks]

1 hour ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

You seriously can’t be that naïve that you think that because you don’t like something, that must be the case for everyone else.

The majority of Star Wars fans don’t hate Star Wars, they’re just the vocal majority online. 
 

I’m personally very sick of Lego’s set choices, because the vast majority of them are all OT or Clone-based sets. Meanwhile there’s so many sets that could be/deserve to be made from the rest of the prequels (not just clones), the sequels, and all of the recent Disney+ shows.

Nah, hardly anyone would want sequel sets over anything else Star Wars related. 

Obviously it’s not fact, but I think it is very clearly. Hence, calling it naive is just ridiculous. 

As for your own personal opinion, I do, somewhat agree! I’d love to see more prequel sets such as a Naboo Starship, but it wouldn’t sell anywhere near as well as the Clone Wars stuff. It’s the same for Disney + stuff, especially BoBF.

2 minutes ago, jdubbs said:

Though I don't necessarily want any of the January/April sets to be replaced by them, I too would welcome more ST sets, so long as they aren't rehashes of OT sets like the ones that dominated the lineup over the ST run. There are plenty of compelling designs from TROS, and even a few from TLJ that would make good sets 

Agreed. 

Resistance Lander, Red Version of the Resistance Bomber, Resistance Transports, Treadable Tank (W/Lando), First Order UA-TT, Exegol. 

Hopefully, in time, the sequels are viewed more fondly. Right now, the new content will restrict that.

[Mandalorianknight]

17 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

Resistance Lander, Red Version of the Resistance Bomber, Resistance Transports, Treadable Tank (W/Lando), First Order UA-TT, Exegol. 

Hopefully, in time, the sequels are viewed more fondly. Right now, the new content will restrict that.

These could all be interesting sets eventually, but I agree that time is a factor here. Not just because we have to wait for the kids who grew up with it to become nostalgic teens/adults like it did for the prequels (which I honestly wonder if it'll happen that way at all, since people are on the internet from a younger age now. Like, will an 8 year old who saw TLJ have a different opinion of it if even at the time all he saw was negative comments online? But I suppose once the new trilogy releases it'll be the punching bag and everyone will weirdly decide the sequels were awesome because they aren't the new trilogy.), but because of HOW MUCH sequel content we had from 2015-2020. There were at least 3 waves solely dedicated to sequel content, with the following 2 waves after each film usually containing another 3-5 sets for that film. So part of the issue just becomes that there's not too much from the sequels that'd do super well. I think Black One, Kylo's TIE from IX, Exogol, and a new resistance bomber could all do fairly well releasing in the next year or two, but a lot of remakes, and a lot of newer stuff, I just can't see doing all that well.

[Gontron]

8 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

The officer could be the infiltration class, so a standard Arc Trooper. I think everyone would prefer that.

A Cobalt based ARC would be incredible, though I think Promobricks would note it specifically. 

[ArrowBricks]

37 minutes ago, Gontron said:

A Cobalt based ARC would be incredible, though I think Promobricks would note it specifically. 

It’s the closest thing I can come to that looks like a “Commander” - what else could it be? I doubt it’s the Officer class as that doesn’t have the look of a Commander. 

[PsychoBuilder]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

First of all, did anyone WANT any of these sets to be replaced with ST sets?

Can't say they're at the top of my wishlist, but that's largely because most of my SW collection is comprised of them, and there are certainly a couple I would be fairly interested in (Ochi's ship is a major gap).

Two more things to adress:

I find the PT vs PT era thing a little strange, and it doesn't seem entirely fair to say that we're getting no PT sets when we are getting clones, particularly since that seems to be what is most desired thing online right now.

Secondly, getting Vader in a cheaper set is honestly pretty good news for me personally, as I still don't have one newer than 2010. Villains in general are for some reason really quite rare with modern Lego--look at how few sets Vader,Voldemort, Thanos, etc appear in. 

[Yperio_Bricks]

I realy dislike the lack of playsets. So far only one real playset has been revealed with the bomber. I can only hope the two Mando sets will be good.

Oh, and yes, i, for one, would like to see ST sets, as well as Solo or R1 sets

[ArrowBricks]

5 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

I realy dislike the lack of playsets. So far only one real playset has been revealed with the bomber. I can only hope the two Mando sets will be good.

Mando sets never usually disappoint. 

[The Stud]

1 hour ago, Brickroll said:

Can't say they're at the top of my wishlist, but that's largely because most of my SW collection is comprised of them, and there are certainly a couple I would be fairly interested in (Ochi's ship is a major gap).

Same here. I generally like the ST (mostly just TFA and TLJ, though I don’t necessarily hate TROS despite being disappointed in it) but since I got a majority of the sets that came out with the movies, and even one of the two Resistance sets, there’s not a lot left from that era left on my wishlist.

It’s mostly just minifigures, and then maybe a few revamped versions of a couple of the existing sets, that I really still want from those films at this point. Like I’m amazed that we didn’t get more Leia variants, Luke Skywalker in his Crait outfit, Ben Solo (which I have a purist custom of but still) and most surprisingly, no Palpatine.

I think same could be said for Rogue One and Solo too. I enjoyed Rogue One and I’m probably the biggest Solo fanboy on this forum (I actually own a “Make Solo 2 Happen” t-shirt), but I feel like those films were pretty well covered with their initial waves. The only glaring omissions to me are the lack of minifigures for L3-37, Dryden Vos, Galen Erso and Saw Gerrera. Aside from a few set remakes like the U-Wing or Imperial Hovercraft, there’s not much left to do from those films besides battle packs for those glorious Shore, Death and Mudtroopers.

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

Mando sets never usually disappoint. 

Definitely. All of the Mando sets so far have been fantastic except for that Trouble on Tatooine one.

[ArrowBricks]

1 hour ago, The Stud said:

Definitely. All of the Mando sets so far have been fantastic except for that Trouble on Tatooine one.

Even that isn’t/wasn’t bad. 

First set to have The Child, and a cheap way to get Mando. 

Relative to the other, yes fair. 

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Brickroll said:

I find the PT vs PT era thing a little strange, and it doesn't seem entirely fair to say that we're getting no PT sets when we are getting clones, particularly since that seems to be what is most desired thing online right now.

Secondly, getting Vader in a cheaper set is honestly pretty good news for me personally, as I still don't have one newer than 2010. Villains in general are for some reason really quite rare with modern Lego--look at how few sets Vader,Voldemort, Thanos, etc appear in. 

Exactly. I'd say a good 90% of people here generally want clone stuff when saying we need more prequel stuff, at least that and separatist droids (For the two of you who I know are going to say no, stop typing. They aren't realistically making Can-cells, a coruscant air taxi, or a new wookie caterman). And we've been getting at least a lot of clones.

It is weird. I mean, it's been 10 years since Dooku, and even characters like vader are generally in expensive stuff. They had the transformation chamber and pod back in... 2017? and those were godsends, but even today Vader, Palpatine, etc are pretty expensive.

4 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

It’s the closest thing I can come to that looks like a “Commander” - what else could it be? I doubt it’s the Officer class as that doesn’t have the look of a Commander. 

...the officer, I think. For most people, clone with antenna=clone commander. Plus, an ARC would likely have a new helmet mold.

4 hours ago, Gontron said:

A Cobalt based ARC would be incredible, though I think Promobricks would note it specifically. 

Nah, Lambent Seeker skin.

But yeah as for lego at least a Colbalt ARC would be nice since it'd fit into a legion (501st), and I agree promobricks would have mentioned it.

34 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

Even that isn’t/wasn’t bad. 

First set to have The Child, and a cheap way to get Mando. 

Relative to the other, yes fair. 

Other way around, I think. Child was already out but it was the first set with Beskar Mando. I remember it was super popular at the time because of how requested beskar mando was, but now with him everywhere opinion's shifted.

But I totally agree with your overall point. Mando sets don't miss. (It feels wrong to include the ones containing stormtroopers here, but I will)