LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[omegabadbatch]

16 minutes ago, Fulcrumfan91 said:

Yeah I agree. Hoping we get some descriptions of figures for the summer wave soon....or hell, even pictures of the official May sets soon.

inquisitor ship was revelead in 1 day of kenobi show and duel 2 weeks later. Maybe with mando sets same thing will happen?

Edited February 26, 2023 by omegabadbatch

[Mandalorianknight]

Just now, omegabadbatch said:

inquisitor ship was revelead in 1 day of kenobi show and duel 2 weeks later I think. maybe with mando same think will happen?

And the BoBf starfighter was revealed not long after that one's episode. I wouldn't be surprised if the mando S3 sets were revealed during or shortly after the show's run as well. Bit odd that it's almost march and we don't even have descriptions of the may sets yet, despite knowing they're in factory production based on that mando figure that leaked.

[Fulcrumfan91]

3 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

And the BoBf starfighter was revealed not long after that one's episode. I wouldn't be surprised if the mando S3 sets were revealed during or shortly after the show's run as well. Bit odd that it's almost march and we don't even have descriptions of the may sets yet, despite knowing they're in factory production based on that mando figure that leaked.

Yeah, I agree. Soon enough then haha since that's premiering Wednesday!

[omegabadbatch]

mandalorian's astromech would justife 5$ in n1 microfighter. Grogu alone justifies 5$??

Edited February 26, 2023 by omegabadbatch

[Mandalorianknight]

1 minute ago, omegabadbatch said:

mandalorian's astromech would justife 5$ in n1 microfighter. Is grogu alone justifies 5$??

I believe you are saying you think an astromech droid would justify a $5 price increase for the microfighter, but grogu would not?

I don't think an extra fig- astromech, grogu, or minifig- justifies a $5 price increase, but I don't think that's it. I think due to inflation and lego's own price increases, microfighters just cost $15 in general now. And as a result, I think we're seeing the mechs replace them, since they... I guess will seem more "worth" $15 to people, given the marvel mechs are now $15? I'm not sure.

14 minutes ago, Fulcrumfan91 said:

Yeah, I agree. Soon enough then haha since that's premiering Wednesday!

Geez, is it? Time flies, huh? Looking forewards to it, I've soured a bit on SW tv overall since for every masterpiece like Andor we get TBOBF or Kenobi, but Mando is consistently great.

[Legofan2001]

21 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Do you actually think people are going to buy a set because it references a meme line, especially with that meme line being a meme because of how awful that scene was? More than that, you think "I don't like sand" is one of the most iconic lines from ANY MOVIE? I'd like to live in whatever world you seem to be in.

As for botching the AOTC anniversary, that's our fault. All signs seem to point to the AT-TE originally being AOTC based before it was changed to include P2 cody since people wanted him so badly.

Maybe in terms of percentage of screen time relative to eachother, but I think they're both on screen for under a minute or two tops. It wouldn't make a difference in lego's eyes, especially considering we literally just got a non canon legion.

I know it’s hardcore fans but let’s be real it’s hardcore fans buying 18+ sets. But TONS of people have Hayden at cons sign jars of sand ask him about sand. So sure kids wouldn’t care for that as a set. But adults and teens 100% would (just like if lego were to randomly make a set with Bully Maguire sure kids may not care but any fans of those movies would freak out)

[Mandalorianknight]

7 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

I know it’s hardcore fans but let’s be real it’s hardcore fans buying 18+ sets. But TONS of people have Hayden at cons sign jars of sand ask him about sand. So sure kids wouldn’t care for that as a set. But adults and teens 100% would (just like if lego were to randomly make a set with Bully Maguire sure kids may not care but any fans of those movies would freak out)

I don't think this is true at all. 18+ sets are meant to appeal to casual adult fans of SW, just as the 18+ market in general is lego's attempt to crack into the adult market for previous non-lego fans. This is why the dioramas and helmets start out with the most popular eras and characters, they're testing the waters. And there's a difference between asking a guy a question or having him sign sand as a joke and spending $80 on a lego set because haha funny sand line. Same with Bully Maguire. Would it be funny if he was in a set? Yes. Would many people buy a $80 diorama of Bully maguire dancing in front of the elevator doors? Definately not.

Edited February 26, 2023 by Mandalorianknight

[Legofan2001]

1 minute ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think this is true at all. 18+ sets are meant to appeal to casual adult fans of SW, just as the 18+ market in general is lego's attempt to crack into the adult market for previous non-lego fans. And there's a difference between asking a guy a question or having him sign sand as a joke and spending $80 on a lego set because haha funny sand line. Same with Bully Maguire. Would it be funny if he was in a set? Yes. Would many people buy a $80 diorama of Bully maguire dancing in front of the elevator doors? Definately not.

I mean Lego made the mediation chamber as an 18+ set for what? 70?80? Dollars and I have to assume that’s far less iconic or cool then getting a set based on “I don’t like sand” or even better Anakin and Padme’s wedding.

[The Stud]

3 hours ago, Legofan2001 said:

Here’s where I disagree on some of the prequel choices. Look the idea of a new swamp speeder is interesting IF it’s 327th but who was actually was asking for a swamp speeder remake ESPECIALLY if it ends up being Kashyyyk clones.

Well, it’s not like there are a lot of small clone vehicles to choose from. The AT-RT, BARC Speeder, Fighter Tank, Swamp Speeder and, in the case of the newer 501st set, a shrunken down AV-7 cannon pretty much cover all the clone-centric builds Lego could include in these pseudo-battle packs. Whether people were asking for any given vehicle is somewhat irrelevant, the factor that draws people in are whatever clone figures are included.

(And as unintentionally funny as it is, “I don’t like sand” is definitely not one of the most iconic film lines of all time.)

I somewhat agree with the general idea of what you’re saying though, just not specifically to the prequels. I do think Lego makes some pretty baffling decisions sometimes, especially this summer with sets like another Yoda’s Starfighter and the buildable Chewbacca. (I’d even argue that, even though I’m excited for it, it’s still a bit of an odd time to do Yavin IV as well, when it seems like there’s so much demand for other sets that could have filled that $160 range at this time.) Even though I think Lego *generally* has a good pulse on what the fans want, and what will also sell with kids, I still find myself questioning the logic behind some of their decisions.

45 minutes ago, omegabadbatch said:

inquisitor ship was revelead in 1 day of kenobi show and duel 2 weeks later. Maybe with mando sets same thing will happen?

42 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

And the BoBf starfighter was revealed not long after that one's episode. I wouldn't be surprised if the mando S3 sets were revealed during or shortly after the show's run as well. Bit odd that it's almost march and we don't even have descriptions of the may sets yet, despite knowing they're in factory production based on that mando figure that leaked.

Adding onto this, we also got the 501st set (the first one that is) revealed in the middle of TCW Final Season’s run and the Bad Batch Shuttle revealed shortly after that show began the following year. I definitely think we’re going to see these May/Mando sets very soon.

 

I’m curious to see what new figures we get between these two sets and what their distribution will be. I’m guessing:

-Some generic pirate, an updated Greef Carga and some other third figure in the Snubfighter.

-An updated Bo-Katan, that leaked Death Watch Mandalorian, a reused TIE Pilot, reused Mando (with updated helmet printing and potentially a new darksaber mold) and reused Grogu in the Interceptor Vs. Fang Fighter set.

With how prominent The Armorer and Paz Vizsla are in the marketing for Season 3, it kinda seems poorly timed for Lego to have retired that Mandalorian Forge set at the end of last year. (Kind of like how they retired the Bad Batch Shuttle days before Season 2 began.) I wonder if we’ll see them reuse those two figures in either of these sets or the one coming out in the summer.

Edited February 26, 2023 by The Stud

[Legofan2001]

14 minutes ago, The Stud said:

Well, it’s not like there are a lot of small clone vehicles to choose from. The AT-RT, BARC Speeder, Fighter Tank, Swamp Speeder and, in the case of the newer 501st set, a shrunken down AV-7 cannon pretty much cover all the clone-centric builds Lego could include in these pseudo-battle packs. Whether people were asking for any given vehicle is somewhat irrelevant, the factor that draws people in are whatever clone figures are included.

(And as unintentionally funny as it is, “I don’t like sand” is definitely not one of the most iconic film lines of all time.)

I somewhat agree with the general idea of what you’re saying though, just not specifically to the prequels. I do think Lego makes some pretty baffling decisions sometimes, especially this summer with sets like another Yoda’s Starfighter and the buildable Chewbacca. (I’d even argue that, even though I’m excited for it, it’s still a bit of an odd time to do Yavin IV as well, when it seems like there’s so much demand for other sets that could have filled that $160 range at this time.) Even though I think Lego *generally* has a good pulse on what the fans want, and what will also sell with kids, I still find myself questioning the logic behind some of their decisions.

Adding onto this, we also got the 501st set (the first one that is) revealed in the middle of TCW Final Season’s run and the Bad Batch Shuttle revealed shortly after that show began the following year. I definitely think we’re going to see these May/Mando sets very soon.

 

I’m curious to see what new figures we get between these two sets and what their distribution will be. I’m guessing:

-Some generic pirate, an updated Greef Carga and some other third figure in the Snubfighter.

-An updated Bo-Katan, that leaked Death Watch Mandalorian, a reused TIE Pilot, reused Mando (with updated helmet printing and potentially a new darksaber mold) and reused Grogu in the Interceptor Vs. Fang Fighter set.

With how prominent The Armorer and Paz Vizsla are in the marketing for Season 3, it kinda seems poorly timed for Lego to have retired that Mandalorian Forge set at the end of last year. (Kind of like how they retired the Bad Batch Shuttle days before Season 2 began.) I wonder if we’ll see them reuse those two figures in either of these sets or the one coming out in the summer.

That’s my point why would do a 200 dollar buildable Chewbacca sell especially to “kids” but not a 200 dollar Geonosis Arena or Theed Palace? Heck why would a Yoda’s Interceptor sell but not Ahsoka’s from season 5 or Obi Wan’s blue one or Anakin’s green one? Like the logic is just baffling and bizarre.

[Fulcrumfan91]

37 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Geez, is it? Time flies, huh? Looking forewards to it, I've soured a bit on SW tv overall since for every masterpiece like Andor we get TBOBF or Kenobi, but Mando is consistently great.

Yeah, I feel that. Andor is the best SW show we've gotten, I'm not big on some of the other shows...I hope Ahsoka is great tho. Mando szn 2 was cool, so looking forward to the 3rd one :)

37 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

I know it’s hardcore fans but let’s be real it’s hardcore fans buying 18+ sets. But TONS of people have Hayden at cons sign jars of sand ask him about sand. So sure kids wouldn’t care for that as a set. But adults and teens 100% would (just like if lego were to randomly make a set with Bully Maguire sure kids may not care but any fans of those movies would freak out)

Bro what? Where are you getting your info from XD

28 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

I mean Lego made the mediation chamber as an 18+ set for what? 70?80? Dollars and I have to assume that’s far less iconic or cool then getting a set based on “I don’t like sand” or even better Anakin and Padme’s wedding.

At this point I feel like you're trolling

21 minutes ago, The Stud said:

 

-Some generic pirate, an updated Greef Carga and some other third figure in the Snubfighter.

 

 

I'm kinda wondering whether we see Hondo return and be one of the minifigures

[Pedilego]

58 minutes ago, Big_Daddy said:

A few general remarks considering the topics discussed here lately:
-Considering to the popularity of clones I don't think it matters what clone division will be included in the swamp speeder. Personally I wouldn't mind 41st Clones because I missed out on those, but if it would make more of you people happy I'd rather have the 327th ones 
-As much as I adore the PT I had to look up what the Geonosis arena looks like from the outside and what I saw doesn't look like something we'll ever see as a set, even if it was from the OT
-Dioramas don't really interest me up until now but if there were one with "I don't like sand" I'd be all over that. We shouldn't underestimate the power of memes!
-I don't know about sales in general but over the past years I've only wanted a fraction of all sets released. If there'd be more (non-clone) PT sets I would be way more interested than OT remakes, so they'd be maing more money from me personally. But as I said, I just might be in the minority there.

It all comes down to sales. You may be right: Zam's Speeder Chase (or other PT movie sets) may appeal to more people than another Clone set, however, Clone fans are more likely to buy 2x 3x 5x 10x copies of a set - and that's where the recent surge in Clone sets (but not necessarily broader PT sets) is coming from.

In that regard, the division absolutely matters. There've been numerous options for people to build up their 41st. Yes, I'm probably buying 1 copy of the Swap Speeder either way. Multiples if they include a Kashyyyk AT-RT driver. But nowhere near as many copies as if it includes the Star Corps - who hasn't been made since the 00s and is thus effectively incompatible with modern Clone armies.

 

 

Don't get me wrong: I, too, want more PT sets. But for (a) the broadest appeal it's OT whereas for (b) the "deepest" appeal it's Clones. Stormies > Clones, ok ok, but in terms of cumulative sales opportunities 501st + 212th + Shinies + etc. etc. etc. > Stormies. There's also (c) for hype but that tends to be the latest movie or shows. The fiscal case for anything else to squeeze itself in is a difficult one to make, unfortunately.

[Mandalorianknight]

35 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

I mean Lego made the mediation chamber as an 18+ set for what? 70?80? Dollars and I have to assume that’s far less iconic or cool then getting a set based on “I don’t like sand” or even better Anakin and Padme’s wedding.

No. The meditation chamber is far more iconic and well-known as a location than the "I don't like sand" palisade among the 18+ demographic. "I don't like sand" is just known as a meme, or worse, an example of how terrible a lot of the dialogue and acting in the prequels was. You cannot seriously be saying that, when faced with the option between a meditation chamber set or "I don't like sand" set, more people in general would chose to spend their money on the haha funny meme. It's not like an impulse buy set, either. The dioramas are a fair chunk of change.

7 minutes ago, Fulcrumfan91 said:

At this point I feel like you're trolling

I don't like to say people are trolling, but at this point it's either that or the most extreme example of what the "lego secretly hates the prequels" mindset turns into.

Edited February 26, 2023 by Mandalorianknight

[omegabadbatch]

wow third version of greef karga

[Legofan2001]

4 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

No. The meditation chamber is far more iconic and well-known as a location than the "I don't like sand" palisade among the 18+ demographic. "I don't like sand" is just known as a meme, or worse, an example of how terrible a lot of the dialogue and acting in the prequels was. You cannot seriously be saying that, when faced with the option between a meditation chamber set or "I don't like sand" set, more people in general would chose to spend their money on the haha funny meme. It's not like an impulse buy set, either. The dioramas are a fair chunk of change.

I don't like to say people are trolling, but at this point it's either that or the most extreme example of what the "lego secretly hates the prequels" mindset turns into.

Okay well it could be based on the wedding scene with the priest,Anakin,padme,3po,and R2 charge like 70 dollars and make it an 18+ set 🤷‍♂️

[Fulcrumfan91]

8 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't like to say people are trolling, but at this point it's either that or the most extreme example of what the "lego secretly hates the prequels" mindset turns into.

Fair enough, tho considering how good the PT sets have been, I don't think that part is true at all. Like, come on. The AT-TE from last year rules. Grievous's Soulless One from 2020, while expensive, was so beautifully done...it'd be silly to say that they hate the PT.

[Legofan2001]

4 minutes ago, Fulcrumfan91 said:

Fair enough, tho considering how good the PT sets have been, I don't think that part is true at all. Like, come on. The AT-TE from last year rules. Grievous's Soulless One from 2020, while expensive, was so beautifully done...it'd be silly to say that they hate the PT.

It’s more like they hate TPM and especially AOTC. Lego on the clone front has been doing great since 2020 (outside the fact we still don’t have P2 Rex) 

[Retro Brick Reviews]

6 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

Okay well it could be based on the wedding scene with the priest,Anakin,padme,3po,and R2 charge like 70 dollars and make it an 18+ set 🤷‍♂️

 

I honestly feel like you're replying to comments without reading them. While hardcore Star Wars fans like the prequels, the average adult who is nostalgic for Star Wars (the primary audience of LEGO 18+ sets and literally the reason the 18+ branding EXISTS) remembers them as those bad movies full of bad acting and bad writing. Attack of the Clones is often considered the worst of the three, with the romance between Anakin and Padmé being considered the worst thing in the original six-film saga. (As someone who loves AotC, even I abhor those scenes.) The odds of getting any expensive collectors sets based on that romance is laughable. If we get any prequel dioramas (which will likely be based on how well the Clone helmets sell), they would almost certainly be based on Revenge of the Sith, as that is almost universally considered the best of the three films and has most of the iconic, diorama-able moments. 

 

(Also note that all of the diorama scenes thus far have been picked because of the actual scene, not the quote. In fact, several of the quotes used (especially in the non-SW dioramas) are pretty forgettable and only there to fit with the line. They aren't going to make a $70 tan balcony because it's associated with an ironic meme quote, especially when, in the highly unlikely event LEGO really wanted to make a meme diorama, "I have the high ground" is far more visually interesting.)

[Legofan2001]

11 minutes ago, Retro Brick Reviews said:

6 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

Okay well it could be based on the wedding scene with the priest,Anakin,padme,3po,and R2 charge like 70 dollars and make it an 18+ set 🤷‍♂️

 

I honestly feel like you're replying to comments without reading them. While hardcore Star Wars fans like the prequels, the average adult who is nostalgic for Star Wars (the primary audience of LEGO 18+ sets and literally the reason the 18+ branding EXISTS) remembers them as those bad movies full of bad acting and bad writing. Attack of the Clones is often considered the worst of the three, with the romance between Anakin and Padmé being considered the worst thing in the original six-film saga. (As someone who loves AotC, even I abhor those scenes.) The odds of getting any expensive collectors sets based on that romance is laughable. If we get any prequel dioramas (which will likely be based on how well the Clone helmets sell), they would almost certainly be based on Revenge of the Sith, as that is almost universally considered the best of the three films and has most of the iconic, diorama-able moments. 

 

(Also note that all of the diorama scenes thus far have been picked because of the actual scene, not the quote. In fact, several of the quotes used (especially in the non-SW dioramas) are pretty forgettable and only there to fit with the line. They aren't going to make a $70 tan balcony because it's associated with an ironic meme quote, especially when, in the highly unlikely event LEGO really wanted to make a meme diorama, "I have the high ground" is far more visually interesting.)

Well lego could test the power of the memes on a High Ground 18+ set and see how it sells🤷‍♂️ 

[Yperio_Bricks]

12 minutes ago, Retro Brick Reviews said:

While hardcore Star Wars fans like the prequels, the average adult who is nostalgic for Star Wars (the primary audience of LEGO 18+ sets and literally the reason the 18+ branding EXISTS) remembers them as those bad movies full of bad acting and bad writing. Attack of the Clones is often considered the worst of the three, with the romance between Anakin and Padmé being considered the worst thing in the original six-film saga. (As someone who loves AotC, even I abhor those scenes.) The odds of getting any expensive collectors sets based on that romance is laughable. If we get any prequel dioramas (which will likely be based on how well the Clone helmets sell), they would almost certainly be based on Revenge of the Sith, as that is almost universally considered the best of the three films and has most of the iconic, diorama-able moments.

Exactly

[Fulcrumfan91]

1 minute ago, Legofan2001 said:

Well lego could test the power of the memes on a High Ground 18+ set and see how it sells🤷‍♂️ 

Lol that's not how it works. 

[The Stud]

34 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

That’s my point why would do a 200 dollar buildable Chewbacca sell especially to “kids” but not a 200 dollar Geonosis Arena or Theed Palace? Heck why would a Yoda’s Interceptor sell but not Ahsoka’s from season 5 or Obi Wan’s blue one or Anakin’s green one? Like the logic is just baffling and bizarre.

Well, the $200 set clearly isn't for kids. It exists because Lego has become obsessed with targeting that casual adult crowd ever since the pandemic started and they think that that audience mostly only cares about these (in my opinion) lame and boring busts and buildable objects versus large playsets. I don't understand why they chose Chewbacca to do one of these with, and I expect it to do as poorly as the Black Panther bust. As for the Yoda Interceptor, I have no clue what Lego was thinking there, aside from throwing out an easy way to get Yoda and R2 or maybe it does have something to do with Young Jedi Adventures like someone else pointed out. 

11 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

It’s more like they hate TPM and especially AOTC. Lego on the clone front has been doing great since 2020 (outside the fact we still don’t have P2 Rex) 

That's just silly. Lego doesn't hate any of the movies but with a franchise as massive as Star Wars, you can't represent every piece of content equally. The OT, Mando and any new live-action content and, more recently, TCW/ROTS are their bread and butter; everything beyond that is secondary. TPM and AOTC are two of the least popular films in the franchise, and as others have pointed out, a lot of the vehicle designs and characters are shared with the more popular TCW/ ROTS.

You also seem to be confusing the prequels' popularity in meme/nerd culture with their overall perception everywhere. Those movies are nowhere on the same level as the OT and even The Mandalorian in the eyes of most.

15 minutes ago, omegabadbatch said:

wow third version of greef karga

That man only wears drip. He has a glorious new outfit every season and we need Lego to make a figure for every single one.

[Fulcrumfan91]

14 minutes ago, Retro Brick Reviews said:

6 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

While hardcore Star Wars fans like the prequels, the average adult who is nostalgic for Star Wars (the primary audience of LEGO 18+ sets and literally the reason the 18+ branding EXISTS) remembers them as those bad movies full of bad acting and bad writing. Attack of the Clones is often considered the worst of the three, with the romance between Anakin and Padmé being considered the worst thing in the original six-film saga. (As someone who loves AotC, even I abhor those scenes.) The odds of getting any expensive collectors sets based on that romance is laughable. If we get any prequel dioramas (which will likely be based on how well the Clone helmets sell), they would almost certainly be based on Revenge of the Sith, as that is almost universally considered the best of the three films and has most of the iconic, diorama-able moments. 

 

Exactly

[The Stud]

3 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

Well lego could test the power of the memes on a High Ground 18+ set and see how it sells🤷‍♂️ 

The "High Ground" scene is arguably the most iconic scene in those films. It also being a meme doesn't mean every single Star Wars scene that's also a meme will be a hot seller.

[Fulcrumfan91]

1 minute ago, The Stud said:

That man only wears drip. He has a glorious new outfit every season and we need Lego to make a figure for every single one.

I'd be cool with another one