Marvel Superheroes 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[hikouki]

GWPs don't usually come with that many minifigs usually, no? Then again, it is just one main character plus three supporting ones/ bystander, it seems.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

If the minifigures have been identified correctly, this has to be the most random set ever.

I mean who thought yeah, a weird mash-up of characters and a vehicle that have never appeared on the screen together is a good idea?

[deemen]

12 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

If the minifigures have been identified correctly, this has to be the most random set ever.

I mean who thought yeah, a weird mash-up of characters and a vehicle that have never appeared on the screen together is a good idea?

The designers are really not exerting any effort unfortunately for the theme.

[Agent Kallus]

2 hours ago, deemen said:

The designers are really not exerting any effort unfortunately for the theme.

I think that's entirely unfair.

Anyway I'd rather the GWP wasn't too desirable since then it should've just been a proper set. ( that said I think this might convince me to get the tower sooner rather than later)

I mean 4 extra figs and decent looking looking relavent sidebuild, that we didn't know about added on as a free included extra, and we are still complaining?

 

[Legocentrico]

10 minuti fa, l'agente Kallus ha detto:

Penso che sia del tutto ingiusto.

Comunque preferirei che il GWP non fosse troppo desiderabile da allora avrebbe dovuto essere solo un set adeguato. (Detto questo, penso che questo potrebbe convincermi a prendere la torre prima piuttosto che dopo)

Intendo 4 fichi extra e un sidebuild dall'aspetto decente, che non sapevamo aggiunto come extra incluso gratuito, e ci stiamo ancora lamentando?

 

Given that I'm happy that Marvel finally gets a gwp, I think any of us could think of dozens of possible gwp better than this. We're talking about a set that costs half the salary of most of us! Lego is absolutely not committing…

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, Legocentrico said:

Given that I'm happy that Marvel finally gets a gwp, I think any of us could think of dozens of possible gwp better than this. We're talking about a set that costs half the salary of most of us! Lego is absolutely not committing…

I mean a gwp wasn't a given. So it nice one exists, but I'm glad they don't have exclusive characters or anything locked to the GWP.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Legocentrico said:

We're talking about a set that costs half the salary of most of us!

It is expensive, but not that expensive  

Personally, I think it‘s cool we‘re getting a GWP at all, which is pretty extraordinary for Marvel. The set is nothing special, sure, but you don‘t look a gift horse in the mouth, after all.

[PGBQW]

1 hour ago, Legocentrico said:

I think any of us could think of dozens of possible gwp better than this

No, if you asked any of us to make one, half of the replies would ask for something bizarrely unreasonable, like a minifig escale jet with 8 minifigures.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

2 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

I think that's entirely unfair.

Anyway I'd rather the GWP wasn't too desirable since then it should've just been a proper set. ( that said I think this might convince me to get the tower sooner rather than later)

I mean 4 extra figs and decent looking looking relavent sidebuild, that we didn't know about added on as a free included extra, and we are still complaining?

 

That mentality is really annoying. Just because something is added for free doesn't mean we can't complain about it?

For example, Gringotts D2C has a fantastic GWP — small, relevant to the set, with an exclusive minifigure. 

Meanwhile Marvel just put together a bunch of random garbage that has nothing to do with anything.

[PhoenixBuilder]

An inessential GWP is arguably good if you don’t want to feel pressured to spend the cash on release - those who do get some extra pieces and characters, and those who don’t  don’t miss out on too much. (Whether they could’ve done a better inessential GWP… I’ll leave to others!) 

[Toast]

I think I might be the only one who loves the GWP based off the first leaked photos. I'm always looking for vehicles to add to my city, especially ones similar to the creator modular GWP vehicles, and it comes with a bonus of 4 minifigures. 

And we have no idea if it'll go with the theme of the avengers tower or not; either way this made me excited to wait in line outside the lego store on Black Friday

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

That mentality is really annoying. Just because something is added for free doesn't mean we can't complain about it?

For example, Gringotts D2C has a fantastic GWP — small, relevant to the set, with an exclusive minifigure. 

Meanwhile Marvel just put together a bunch of random garbage that has nothing to do with anything.

The gringotts gwp is quite nice isn't it. Really completes the set. So it's a bad GWP as it should just have been part of the set. You want something separate but still relavent and related.

Random garbage is a bit of an overstatement, it's a car with an avenger, a civilian to rescue and some baddies to rescue him from, it complements the set without making it feel incomplete without it.

I do think there is too much complaining here yes, but I only spoke out because the designers themselves were being blamed. I think it's unfair, I mean directly targeting a person when you can just blame the company or at very least the higher ups isn't right because you don't know the circumstances.

And frankly I don't really see what could be much better. I mean yes it could have had better figs, but 4 is a high number for a licenced GwP. But at the size they generally are to have something that would actually go with the set ( rather than something at a different scale or totally unrelated to the Avengers Tower) a medium sized vehicle makes a lot of sense. I mean it's in a big city so cars would around and so it complements the model nicely. And any small structure would look off without a baseplate.

Now maybe you do want something unrelated like a little brickbuilt arc reactor or something, but frankly I think most of us want something fig scaled that goes with the tower. I mean most of the small things that could go with the tower should be included anyway. A car makes sense to be with the tower, use could even have the hulk be throwing it, but the set would not be incomplete without it. So it's a pretty perfect GWP here. Everyone who doesn't get the Gringotts within the first month or so and gets it later on will have an understaffed bank with less vaults, obviously inferior, whereas without the car Avengers Tower is still complete.

Is the figure selection perfect? No but would I want them to lock an exclusive character to GWP? No.

 

 

[psqidexslizer]

2 hours ago, PGBQW said:

No, if you asked any of us to make one, half of the replies would ask for something bizarrely unreasonable, like a minifig escale jet with 8 minifigures.

And then those same people would complain that Lego is putting highly desirable figures in a GWP set instead of a regular system set.

 

[NoOneOfImportance]

1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said:

And then those same people would complain that Lego is putting highly desirable figures in a GWP set instead of a regular system set.

 

This. It's the same reason why I don't understand why it's so absolutely critical that Star Wars get a minifigure for May 4th ever year. Two days later it's sold out and people will complain that it wasn't more widely available. I love seeing sets like the mini Death Star that are cool, well-done promos to have, but not as "critical" to a collection in the same way. 

Frankly, I'd rather we get some side car build or something to go with the tower on the side as a GWP and have more parts go toward the actual tower itself, since that's what we're paying $525 for at the end of the day. The bigger issue I have is that LEGO is just using this GWP as another way to get rid of excess Black Panthers and Outriders rather than feeling like anything actually goes together for it. 

[thebricksbear]

Yea the GWP seems random, but surely it's an accesory to the Avengers tower. Which probably means BP isn't in it, and that there's an outrider or two as badguys, which is also kinda weird. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, thebricksbear said:

Yea the GWP seems random, but surely it's an accesory to the Avengers tower. Which probably means BP isn't in it, and that there's an outrider or two as badguys, which is also kinda weird. 

But Black Panther and the Outsiders haven't even ever been near the Avengers Tower.

Not to mention that it had already been sold before Black Panther got his movie or the Outriders appeared in Infinity War.

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

But Black Panther and the Outsiders haven't even ever been near the Avengers Tower.

Tell that to Wong and Wasp, who are rumoured to be included in the actual set

7 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

For example, Gringotts D2C has a fantastic GWP — small, relevant to the set, with an exclusive minifigure. 

That minifig isn‘t exclusive though. The „new“ faceprint turned out to be on the other side of one of the other goblins‘ heads  

[THELEGOBATMAN]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

That minifig isn‘t exclusive though. The „new“ faceprint turned out to be on the other side of one of the other goblins‘ heads  

The minifigure itself is exclusive to the set tho. 

My point is, the Marvel set is a mess that doesn't fit with anything, and nor does it work on its own. It feels like they looked at the minifigures / pieces left over in their storage and made a set from whatever was left there.

[upliftingbricks]

Replace the Outriders with Chitauri

Replace the Car with Small Leviathan build

Replace Black Panther with Bruce Banner with Green Eyes from Hulkbuster set

Keep the Civilian 

Small GWP Always Angry set that reuses existing pieces, cool if you want it with the Tower and missable if you want to skip it and maybe piece it out later

[THELEGOBATMAN]

7 hours ago, upliftingbricks said:

Replace the Outriders with Chitauri

Replace the Car with Small Leviathan build

Replace Black Panther with Bruce Banner with Green Eyes from Hulkbuster set

Keep the Civilian 

Small GWP Always Angry set that reuses existing pieces, cool if you want it with the Tower and missable if you want to skip it and maybe piece it out later

Exactly. Something like this would contemplate the set, but wouldn’t be essential to it.

[Scarilian]

I think the idea of the GWP is just to shove a bunch of random mass manufactured and easily producable figures that they have spare into the Avengers Tower through the use of the GWP to incentivize direct purchases from Lego.

In which case you'd have Avengers Tower, which would now have the 'Taxi' for scale purposes and to imply city life similar to the Daily Bugle, and it gives you some extra characters to display. Though personally I'd have wanted Ultron Drones or Iron Legion as it does not seem like we'll get them in the tower and they'd make more sense to include.

[Agent Kallus]

9 hours ago, upliftingbricks said:

Replace the Outriders with Chitauri

Replace the Car with Small Leviathan build

Replace Black Panther with Bruce Banner with Green Eyes from Hulkbuster set

Keep the Civilian 

Small GWP Always Angry set that reuses existing pieces, cool if you want it with the Tower and missable if you want to skip it and maybe piece it out later

Shouldn't Bruce Banner already be in the set? And that would be very undersized for a leviathan.

I mean that does sound like a better GWP but I still don't think the car is actually bad.

[SEmrys]

Does anyone remember the layout theory about where each figure was in the box of CMFs (or how far back in the discussion it was)? 

I vaguely remember looking at it and thinking the figures I wanted most were in the corners. Whenever I see a box out I'll grab a couple, and so far I've managed to get 4 of the 6 I really want, 1 I'm happy to have...

And 3 Goliath's, which I do not want. 

But I'm just wondering if I'm lucking out (Goliath's excluded, but I think they've all come from somewhere in the middle or emptier boxes) or if there's some merit to it. 

Edit: Having looked it up (and bought some more) after work, I can see that it was just luck. 

Edited August 29, 2023 by SEmrys

[upliftingbricks]

Venom Street Bike Polybag in 2024 reported on Insta (No I havent made that up )

[psqidexslizer]

19 minutes ago, upliftingbricks said:

Venom Street Bike Polybag in 2024 reported on Insta (No I havent made that up )

I wonder, is that a regular street bike that Venom rides or is it a street bike that has been Venomized? 🤔