LegendaryArticuno Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 10 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: That's what I'm expecting or hoping for anyway. I hope the X-Mansion doesn't reuse the same Wolverine, Storm, and Beast from the CMF series and then the same Cyclops and Magneto from the X-Jet as well. It's a safe bet that set minifigs will always be noticeably less detailed than any CMF fig. Wanda and Spiderman are good examples. Same will apply with Wolverine, Storm, and Beast.
psqidexslizer Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 7 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: By 90s shows and comics I meant the 90s era of comics where he wore the green suit primarily. He also had his cargo combat outfit and the occasional special outfit like the Shi'ar exo-skeleton which he could walk in. The black suit is a modern invention for the 21st century. If you look at his looks from the 60s-90s, he never wore a black suit. He wore blue, green, brown, tan, etc. but not the modern black suit we associate with him today. It would look out of place in an X-Men '97 set especially since these sets are based off of the show, not the comics or the movies or any other form of media. The black suit is also associated with the wheelchair and since he never rode in a regular wheelchair in the original show (and doubtfully will in this new one since he's not even in it), I'm only expecting the hoverchair look. Your minifigure list is also missing all the new additions to the team who have already been popping up in merchandise like Bishop, Morph, Sunspot, and Cable. Nightcrawler hasn't shown up yet in merchandise but he's been confirmed and we've seen art of him. Archangel is rumored to join the team as well. We also know the Goblin Queen will have a major role and there's merchandise for her too. Prof X would look out of place in a X-Men ‘97 set in general since he doesn’t appear in the show. So if Lego is going to take liberties (and just looking at Wasp in Avengers Tower it’s safe to say they sometimes do) there’s no reason they can’t stick him in a black suit and just call it a day. As for those others, I didn’t list them by name because I don’t think we’ll be seeing them in this set. They all fall under the “Probably not” category. 1 hour ago, kevkipo said: Isn't Jubilee one of the main characters though? Didn't the old show revolve around her? Yes. Jubilee is also the member on the team that gets the least exposure outside of this show. She only ever has nameless cameos in the movies. I don’t remember her in any of the other cartoons. And she barely appears in comics nowadays. That’s why I put her towards the bottom.
Legocentrico Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 2 ore fa, psqidexslizer ha detto: Il Prof X sembrerebbe fuori luogo in un set di X-Men '97 in generale dal momento che non appare nello show. Has it been confirmed by anyone? It may simply not appear in the merchandise due to the usual spoilers
psqidexslizer Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: Has it been confirmed by anyone? It may simply not appear in the merchandise due to the usual spoilers I thought it was confirmed at some point he would not be appearing, but I could be wrong on that. And even then, it’s not like actors and show runners haven’t lied before to prevent plot details from leaking.
SpiderFan44 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 So, yeah, wer'e getting Kevin Feige. I won't complain about the lack of Stan Lee cause the purist custom does the work pretty well for now and considering the issues around his image rights. But if you were to include a Feige reference in the Avengers Tower I'd rather have had a She-Hulk K.E.V.I.N easter egg in one of Tony's Lab that a dude that does not "belong" in-universe. Only way I can view this as justified is if he's getting a cameo in the "Code Red" animated feature that's releasing October 27 on D+, this would make sense.
Legocentrico Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 So, if the latest rumors are right, the x-jet seems like a real remake of 76022. Many times this set has been described as a great failure, some even hypothesize that it is the reason for the abandonment of the franchise. So I wonder, did Lego go crazy to remake such a huge failure, or were the sales actually not that bad? 1 ora fa, psqidexslizer ha detto: Pensavo che fosse stato confermato ad un certo punto che non sarebbe apparso I haven't heard anything about it, but I may have missed it. In any case, in the original series he didn't die, and honestly I always took it for granted that sooner or later he would return 1 ora fa, SpiderFan44 ha detto: L'unico modo in cui posso vederlo come giustificato è se sta ottenendo un cameo nel film d'animazione "Code Red" che uscirà il 27 ottobre su D+, questo avrebbe senso. If the set somehow celebrates 10 years of Lego Marvel or 15 of the MCU it makes perfect sense as a bonus…
LegendaryArticuno Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: So, if the latest rumors are right, the x-jet seems like a real remake of 76022. Many times this set has been described as a great failure, some even hypothesize that it is the reason for the abandonment of the franchise. So I wonder, did Lego go crazy to remake such a huge failure, or were the sales actually not that bad? Oof I was expecting X-Jet to be on the quality level of Benatar and recent Quinjet
Legocentrico Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 29 minuti fa, LegendaryArticuno ha detto: Oof mi aspettavo che X-Jet fosse al livello di qualità di Benatar e del recente Quinjet With 359 pieces there is no way, but it can still be a good set Edited October 2, 2023 by Legocentrico
psqidexslizer Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: So, if the latest rumors are right, the x-jet seems like a real remake of 76022. Many times this set has been described as a great failure, some even hypothesize that it is the reason for the abandonment of the franchise. So I wonder, did Lego go crazy to remake such a huge failure, or were the sales actually not that bad?I It think it just comes down to Lego doesn’t have huge faith in the X-Men selling (maybe due to the last attempt, maybe because the X-Men aren’t as well known at this point, idk) so they’re packing The Blackbird with the four most iconic X-Men characters. And that just happens to be the strategy they tried last time, but they’re counting on the cartoons release to help drive sales. Anyways, I don’t think this bodes well for the Mansion. We’re probably not getting that $300+ display piece with 25 figures some of us were hoping for. Probably closer to a $200ish facade with 8-10 and Wolverine, Magneto, Cyclops, Beast, and Storm taking up most of the slots. Definitely expect them to skip at least a few of the main team (Jubilee and Gambit in particular).
LegendaryArticuno Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: It think it just comes down to Lego doesn’t have huge faith in the X-Men selling (maybe due to the last attempt, maybe because the X-Men aren’t as well known at this point, idk) so they’re packing The Blackbird with the four most iconic X-Men characters. And that just happens to be the strategy they tried last time, but they’re counting on the cartoons release to help drive sales. It doesn't help that the product design of the current X-Men'97 sets have been terrible... buildable Wovlerine and Woverine Gauntlet both overpriced and trash. Really hope the Marvel team can design something worth buying.
psqidexslizer Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 55 minutes ago, LegendaryArticuno said: It doesn't help that the product design of the current X-Men'97 sets have been terrible... buildable Wovlerine and Woverine Gauntlet both overpriced and trash. Really hope the Marvel team can design something worth buying. There’s definitely a vicious feedback loop here. X-men sets are poorly designed so they don’t sell. And since they don’t sell, Lego doesn’t put effort into the designs.
LegendaryArticuno Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 Yea, it also doesn't help that X-Jet will be Hoopty lvl in absurd pricing. Hopefully LEGO accounts for this in their sales forecasting, as it's pretty much guaranteed not to sell well based on pricing alone.
thebricksbear Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 Wow Hoopty is completely buried on lego.com. I couldn't find it until I went about halfway through available Marvel sets. Nothing in "New" or on the front page. I guess they don't expect it to do well.
hikouki Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 6 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: It think it just comes down to Lego doesn’t have huge faith in the X-Men selling (maybe due to the last attempt, maybe because the X-Men aren’t as well known at this point, idk) so they’re packing The Blackbird with the four most iconic X-Men characters. And that just happens to be the strategy they tried last time, but they’re counting on the cartoons release to help drive sales. Anyways, I don’t think this bodes well for the Mansion. We’re probably not getting that $300+ display piece with 25 figures some of us were hoping for. Probably closer to a $200ish facade with 8-10 and Wolverine, Magneto, Cyclops, Beast, and Storm taking up most of the slots. Definitely expect them to skip at least a few of the main team (Jubilee and Gambit in particular). 4 hours ago, psqidexslizer said: There’s definitely a vicious feedback loop here. X-men sets are poorly designed so they don’t sell. And since they don’t sell, Lego doesn’t put effort into the designs. So, X-men is getting the DC-universe treatment from Lego. Sigh.
NXS7 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, thebricksbear said: Wow Hoopty is completely buried on lego.com. I couldn't find it until I went about halfway through available Marvel sets. Nothing in "New" or on the front page. I guess they don't expect it to do well. Of course it won't do well, it's stupidly overpriced. The NWH Statue of Liberty costs £10 more for double the bricks and triple the minifigures If the Avengers Tower followed this price-per-piece ratio, it'd cost £1000
Scarilian Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 Avengers Tower and its associated gift with purchase are all we have left for 2023, unless we get surprised with some of the unknown/delayed/forgotten sets. For those wondering, we will likely end up seeing some of the January 2024 sets around the end of November similar to how the January 2023 sets were officially revealed on the 30th November. New things: More info on Avengers Tower Rumours regarding X-Men Jet Updated List: Spoiler NOVEMBER (Total 1) 76269: Avengers Tower, MCU; AoU inspired ($524.99, 5261pcs) 22+ figures Includes Kevin Feige... Releasing November 24th, revealed November 14th Will have a Gift With Purchase (Taxi?) UNKNOWN 2023? (Total 2): 76222: (Likely DC due to delays) 76246: JANUARY 2024 (Total 9): 76275: Venom & Doc Ock ($10.99, 77pcs) 76276: Venom Mech ($15.99, 134pcs) 76277: War Machine Mech ($15.99, 154pcs) 76278: Rocket's Warbird ($34.99, 290pcs) 76279: Spider-man Car ($29.99, 227pcs) 76280: 'No Way Home set' ($34.99, 347pcs) 76281: X-Men Jet ($79.99, 359pcs) 4 figures, no Sentinel (Figures rumored: Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm, Magneto) 76282: 'Buildable Rocket Raccoon' ($54.99, 566pcs) 76285: $69.99 FEBRUARY 2024 (Total 2): 40670: Iron Spider-man Brickheadz 40671: Potted Groot Brickheadz MARCH 2024 (Total 3): 10792: 'Spider-man and his Amazing Friends 4+' ($9.99, 52pcs) Includes Francis Fyre (Electro) 10793: 'Spider-man and his Amazing Friends 4+' ($19.99, 84pcs) 10794: 'Spider-man and his Amazing Friends 4+' ($54.99, 193pcs) Includes Iron Man & Arnim Zola APRIL 2024 (Total 4): 76284: 'Buildable Green Goblin + Glider' ($34.99, 471pcs) 76292: 'Captain America 4 set' ($49.99, 223pcs) 76296: 'Buildable Spider-man' ($34.99, 303pcs) 76298: 'Buildable Sam Wilson Cap' ($34.99, 359pcs) UNKNOWN 2024? (Total 3): 30679: 'Venom Street Bike' Polybag ($4.99) 76283: (Listed by Jedijacpenguin & Brickfanatics) GWP Taxi with purchases of Avengers Tower, featuring four figures (2 Outriders?, Black Panther?, Civilian?) Rumored/Other sets: X-Men Mansion, prototype leaked during a survey by Lego. Prototype had 3122 bricks, 9 minfiigures (Prof X, Mangeto, Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Beast, Mystique, Sabertooth and Emma Frost) and was estimated at $300. Maybe a 2024 release Notes: Unidentified sets may wind up being from DC, please be aware Currency listings are taken from a variety of sources and may vary Release dates are estimated given conflicting reports Sets seem to be getting created with overlapping set numbers, please be aware fan made set titles may be reported by some sites as being official titles for these new set 10 minutes ago, NXS7 said: If the Avengers Tower followed this price-per-piece ratio, it'd cost £1000 I'm leaning to this being Lego pushing the limits and seeing what they can get away with. If people encourage this behaviour through purchases it may result in more extreme price-per-piece ratio variance in future.
Mandalorianknight Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 12 hours ago, Legocentrico said: With 359 pieces there is no way, but it can still be a good set With 359 pieces and 4 figs at $80 this thing would have to have the four figures be bigfigs for this to be even remotely close to a good price. 8 hours ago, LegendaryArticuno said: Yea, it also doesn't help that X-Jet will be Hoopty lvl in absurd pricing. Hopefully LEGO accounts for this in their sales forecasting, as it's pretty much guaranteed not to sell well based on pricing alone. Seriously. Is the goal to have this on sale for some reason? I always counted it as a mark in favor of the quality/success of lego that it was hard to find sets on sale. But recently the stores near me are filled with queer eye, UCS landspeeder, Wakanda Forever, Eternals, and Ninjago Core sets on clearence. Given that the BP bust and Hulkbuster also saw crazy discounts on lego.com, and that the Hoopty is likely to encounter the same fate (I have a feeling that the X-jet might somehow sell fairly well just based on the number of x-men diehards who won't care if it's overpriced), it does not put on a good look for marvel. 7 hours ago, thebricksbear said: Wow Hoopty is completely buried on lego.com. I couldn't find it until I went about halfway through available Marvel sets. Nothing in "New" or on the front page. I guess they don't expect it to do well. Whoever runs the site is ashamed of the set's price lol.
Legocentrico Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: With 359 pieces and 4 figs at $80 this thing would have to have the four figures be bigfigs for this to be even remotely close to a good price. I said good set, not a good price :-p
PGBQW Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 21 hours ago, SpiderFan44 said: Only way I can view this as justified is if he's getting a cameo in the "Code Red" animated feature that's releasing October 27 on D+, this would make sense How would that help in any possible way? Like I don't care about him being in the set either, but him showing up in a straight to DVD movie no one is going to see hardly changes anything. 21 hours ago, SpiderFan44 said: But if you were to include a Feige reference in the Avengers Tower I'd rather have had a She-Hulk K.E.V.I.N easter egg in one of Tony's Lab that a dude that does not "belong" in-universe. If you really want to get tecnical to that level, it wouldnt make sense for the robot to show up there either. If anything it would actually make less sense. 21 hours ago, Legocentrico said: Has it been confirmed by anyone? It may simply not appear in the merchandise due to the usual spoilers I agree with you here 7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: With 359 pieces and 4 figs at $80 this thing would have to have the four figures be bigfigs for this to be even remotely close to a good price. Sure, but the spaceship does look nice
Moon_Knight Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 21 hours ago, Scarilian said: Avengers Tower and its associated gift with purchase are all we have left for 2023... Did we ever get better images of the GWP? Isn't it just supposed to be Black Panther with some Outriders and a taxi?
NXS7 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 Picked up a few more CMFs earlier, and only just got my first duplicates (Storm and Echo). Only need Kate, WBN and both Knights to finish off now 1 hour ago, Moon_Knight said: Did we ever get better images of the GWP? Isn't it just supposed to be Black Panther with some Outriders and a taxi? Nothing more has been seen from that since it first leaked
Mandalorianknight Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 13 hours ago, PGBQW said: Sure, but the spaceship does look nice I was talking about the X-Jet, which while I guess now is usually a spaceship, we haven't seen images yet. As for the Hoopty, which is one less figure and a handful more parts for $10 MORE... I don't even think the ship looks all that good. I really don't understand why they're going so high for these two in particular. Like, the marvels are far from Marvel's most popular characters (Also, I hate that I'm gonna get the movie as a search result instead of the comic series of the same name... one of the best comics of all time), why is this so overpriced but the NWH set was pretty reasonable? And as for the X-men, it makes total sense for lego to assume that people will shell out for their grand return... only they just released some CMF figs, so two figs'll either be repeats of ones you can get for $5-6 or slight variations, and the two who are "new characters" have been in sets before... 17 hours ago, Legocentrico said: I said good set, not a good price :-p Fair.
hikouki Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: ... And as for the X-men, it makes total sense for lego to assume that people will shell out for their grand return... only they just released some CMF figs, so two figs'll either be repeats of ones you can get for $5-6 or slight variations, and the two who are "new characters" have been in sets before... Fair. There was that time not too long ago that they were releasing one Hulkbuster after another. LOL It almost seems like there are multiple Marvel design teams within Lego who are all competing against each other. (Also there was that Batcave shadowbox with almost the same car as the standalone release!)
jonwil Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 I do wonder if there is some specific high license fee attached to the hoopty for some reason that has made it expensive... Anyone know what prices other toy companies are charging for the same ship and how that compares to other Marvel products from said toy companies?
Clone OPatra Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, hikouki said: It almost seems like there are multiple Marvel design teams within Lego who are all competing against each other. The sets team is all one team, but the Minifigures team for CMF is different. They must talk to each other a bit though.
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