The_Fiery_Rooster Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Yeah, super suspicious about the April 2024 release date. However, the set sounds great! I'm so glad we're actually getting another Red Hulk, hopefully a summer set includes the Avengers Tower Hulk (or a different one, maybe an angry face?) so the new style is more accessible to everyone.
CF Mitch Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 The Cap vs. Red Hulk set sounds intriguing, though I really need to wait and see how MCU Hulk will look and the LEGO version based on him. Incidentally, someone posted a picture of the upcoming Cyclops head being double-faced, with the a portion of the rear face being quite visible around the hairline You'd think they could afford to avoid with a second head, with a price like that, but if you ask me, he didn't really need a second face, definitely not a smiling one. Cyclops isn't exactly known for cocky behavior or anything.... Regards, Mitch
Mandalorianknight Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Legocentrico said: I don't think Lego greenlit the Cantina because it's simple. The subject sells well and they have thought about how to earn more. And it's the same reasoning that will lead us to a great Hall of Armor (with or without Malibu). I imagine the difficulty is an exciting challenge for designers, regardless of the set I might not be articulating myself right- let me explain- Lego greenlit the cantina because of how iconic the location's interior is. The exterior is just a tan rectangle, which works in it's favor here as it means it is simple and cost-effective to make the outer part of the building, allowing for the vast majority of the set to be focused on the much more interesting interior. With the malibu mansion, lego has an issue. The exterior is not nearly as iconic as the tower, sanctum, etc, but it is a very complex shape. To make it look right, they're not going to have a lot of interior space. 45 minutes ago, NXS7 said: Info from maxbautde Captain America Vs Red Hulk Battle April 2024/223 pieces/$54.99 Build: fighter jet with opening cockpit, storage compartment and stud shooters Figures: Cap (Sam), Red Hulk big fig, Falcon (Joaquin Torres) and Sabra From the company that brought you the Hoopty and the X-jet comes... generic but not military-looking Fighter Jet. That's not quite as bad- obviously we have a big fig- but 223 pieces for $55 is still absurd. Even if we say Red Hulk accounts for $10 of the set- which he absolutely should not- that translates to the 200-ish piece jet and 3 figs being $45. Luckily for lego pricing in the future, I can't see this doing well, especially with what I've heard about the film itself and it's near-constant reshoots.
hvader Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 RED HULK!!!!!! RIP to those of us who wanted a Leader, but Red Hulk is an even bigger W Also how long should I wait to purchase X Jet and Hoopty, I really want them but just not at their current prices
poisonbricks Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 A little worried about the Cap 4 set - including Sabra in general is a risky move, but especially considering recent events.
thebricksbear Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Is this from a reputable leaker? Sorry but a big fig, two sets of differently printed wings, and altogether 3 minifigs with inique printing is a red flag for me. That said, I could care less about the build if its real, its an instant buy. A 2nd set would be amazing if it turns out there's as much Hulky stuff in the movie as is rumored.
Callistereo Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 People are saying the Cap 4 set may get cancelled due to the conflicts happening in Israel and the fact that they chose to include Sabra....I hope that isn't the case. I also hope this set actually lands its 2024 release date
cosmic Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Legocentrico said: I was standing in line at the supermarket thinking how could you do a Hall of Armor without the implications of a Malibu house, and the recent Batcave came to mind! A large shadow box type set, with a house part, stairs down to Tony's lab and a cave with cells. It would be interesting... I wonder if having used that system for DC could somehow interfere with the realization. The exterior could be completely dark red, and instead of the bat we could have the word "marvel" on the facade Personally, I’d rather they do a facade of only a portion of the mansion the. Choose to do another box set. I’d compromise on not including all details but they could so a sized up version of the 2013 model. Like still a facade but incorporating more of the mansion than before. I wasn’t a particularly huge fan of the Bat box and the armory is already quite boxish I feel the exterior of the mansion would breathe more life into a set like that. As I said we could compromise and only incorporate portions or a portion of the house but a well encompassed Hall of Armor should have some sort of an exterior to give it dimension and context. Imo at least.
BrickBob Studpants Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 There’s no way this set comes out in April 2024 The fact Red Hulk is included should be enough of an indication, since his appearance has never been officially confirmed. Of course I’m aware of all the leaks, but still. For the general public, this would be a huge spoiler! They’ve postponed the Eternals sets despite not being spoilery in the slightest, so I can’t see them releasing this set 10 months ahead of the film
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, NXS7 said: Captain America Vs Red Hulk Battle April 2024/223 pieces/$54.99 Build: fighter jet with opening cockpit, storage compartment and stud shooters Figures: Cap (Sam), Red Hulk big fig, Falcon (Joaquin Torres) and Sabra I suspect that LEGO will switch her out for someone else in the final set (especially since they can delay the set to coincide with the movie’s release anyway). 1 hour ago, Callistereo said: People are saying the Cap 4 set may get cancelled due to the conflicts happening in Israel and the fact that they chose to include Sabra....I hope that isn't the case Not likely; they will probably just swap her for someone else (like Ross) and redo the box/instructions. What If. . . ? Season 3 confirmed, BTW: Edited December 31, 2023 by Classic_Spaceman
THELEGOBATMAN Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, hvader said: RED HULK!!!!!! RIP to those of us who wanted a Leader, but Red Hulk is an even bigger W Is he tho? We already got a LEGO Red Hulk, but not LEGO The Leader. Still, it's a really cool inclusion imo. 21 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said: I suspect that LEGO will switch her out for someone else in the final set (especially since they can delay the set to coincide with the movie’s release anyway). I suspect that Disney might fully remove her from the movie. The reshoots for this movie are not a joke. They hired new screenwriters, and pushed it back a considerable amount of time.
Scarilian Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: There’s no way this set comes out in April 2024 The fact Red Hulk is included should be enough of an indication, since his appearance has never been officially confirmed. Of course I’m aware of all the leaks, but still. For the general public, this would be a huge spoiler! I kinda want Lego to just go 'screw it' and start releasing these sets at the intended release date as opposed to delaying them because of the incompetence of Disney resulting in a big mess later on. If it is indeed delayed I can't see it being delayed to more than November when they'll have shown off Red Hulk in the trailers (If he's still in the film when it happens) 49 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said: I suspect that LEGO will switch her out for someone else in the final set (especially since they can delay the set to coincide with the movie’s release anyway). If so, they should switch her with CMF Winter Soldier (Maybe without leg print to keep the CMF unique). That way the set could have some more overlap with TF&TWS. Though realistically it should be The Leader to provide another antagonist for the set (Sam Vs Red Hulk, Torres Vs The Leader) 28 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I suspect that Disney might fully remove her from the movie. The reshoots for this movie are not a joke. They hired new screenwriters, and pushed it back a considerable amount of time. Hopefully, too many characters already confirmed for this film and they've barely developed Joaquin Torres, let alone introducing and developing Sabra when we still have Sharon Carter doing whatever she's doing along with countless other characters that could fill the role that Sabra would probably have in the movie. We may not even have Sabra or Red Hulk in the finalized version of this movie when it airs in 2025. Sabra I could see them ditching due to IRL events. Red Hulk could easily be swapped out because the 'evil president' plotline was supposed to be commentary on IRL events also... switching him for Hulk in order to pay off the World War Hulk aspects would make sense and then have Red Hulk as the leader of the Thunderbolts (MCU's Suicide Squad) in a role similar to Amanda Waller.
thebricksbear Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Remember that Cap 4 was in production throughout the writer strike so its likely the reshoots will correct some of the constraints put on the talent. I doubt Sabra would be removed at this point (simply having a Jewish person in the movie isnt offensive, come on now), but since Red Hulk is surely entirely CGI, there's probably not much reason to remove/update him either. If Red Hulk wasnt going to be a movie spoiler to the point they wouldn't bother hiding him in the Lego set, its safe to say he has a large role.
Mandalorianknight Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, hvader said: RED HULK!!!!!! RIP to those of us who wanted a Leader, but Red Hulk is an even bigger W Also how long should I wait to purchase X Jet and Hoopty, I really want them but just not at their current prices Red Hulk is nice, especially since the last one was 2017. Hope it doesn't have a harrison ford specific looking face print. The hoopty should hit 40% discounts at places like Target to be honest. I'd wait until then. As for the X-Jet, it looked like the target by me had it listed at $60- I didn't buy it so it might have been an error, but if it is, and you really want it, $60 isn't completely egregious. I'll still be waiting and crossing my fingers for it to go to $50, though. 3 hours ago, poisonbricks said: A little worried about the Cap 4 set - including Sabra in general is a risky move, but especially considering recent events. Worst case scenario they pull a Flash movie set and just remove Sabra, and we still get most of the set. Though I want to add it's so sad that our world's gotten to the point where an isreali hero could be cut from a film over being "a risky move". We've had SOVIET heroes, but no, can't have one from a Jewish state. (I want to make clear here I'm talking about the general chatter, not you specifically. You're definitely correct that this would be a risky move in the studio's eyes, I'm just sad the studio would consider it as such) 11 minutes ago, thebricksbear said: I doubt Sabra would be removed at this point (simply having a Jewish person in the movie isnt offensive, come on now) Not in the mind of a rational human, but this is the Walt Disney Corporation. Removing Sabra for being Isreali is not above them. I do find it really funny that there's so much worry about that being controversial when the movie features captain america fighting the sitting US president. Not that they shouldn't be allowed to make a film where cap fights the president, but it's darkly funny to me that they're making a film like that and the fact that it has an Isreali hero is what they're worried about.
Callistereo Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Man Marvel is a mess right now. I'm glad Spider-Man 2 was a phenomenal product, I've just let the MCU doing its thing without paying any mind to it. The Cap 4 set sounds awesome though
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I suspect that Disney might fully remove her from the movie. The reshoots for this movie are not a joke. They hired new screenwriters, and pushed it back a considerable amount of time. I hope so; I am not sure what she would add to the movie that someone like Sharon Carter would not. 🫤 1 hour ago, thebricksbear said: I doubt Sabra would be removed at this point (simply having a Jewish person in the movie isnt offensive, come on now) The controversy over her is not because she is Jewish! 😬 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: Worst case scenario they pull a Flash movie set and just remove Sabra, and we still get most of the set. This is what I expect; maybe she gets switched for Ross (who can be made with existing parts and maybe a new head).
Scarilian Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said: This is what I expect; maybe she gets switched for Ross (who can be made with existing parts and maybe a new head). Ross would be yet another figure that would be useful to have. Though it's not as usable given it's Harrison Ford and not William Hurt so would'nt work for The Incredible Hulk, Civil War or Endgame's portrayal of the character. Honestly Lego had a choice between Betty Ross, Isaih Bradley, Winter Soldier, The Leader, Thunderbolt Ross or even the minor villain of the film, Cobra, and instead they decide on Sabra - the brand new character that the audience may not even get attached to Edited December 31, 2023 by Scarilian
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scarilian said: Though it's not as usable given it's Harrison Ford and not William Hurt so would'nt work for The Incredible Hulk, Civil War or Endgame's portrayal of the character. That depends on whether Ford will have a moustache in the movie.
Scarilian Posted January 1, 2024 Posted January 1, 2024 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: Happy New Year!!! :-D Happy New Year :D 1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said: That depends on whether Ford will have a moustache in the movie. I'd imagine he would have a visually destinct figure from how a Thunderbolt Ross figure pre-Ford would have been handled. 2 hours ago, thebricksbear said: I doubt Sabra would be removed at this point (simply having a Jewish person in the movie isnt offensive, come on now) I don't think you understand the reason why she might be removed. It's more related to the history of her character and the context of what she's about. If Disney have no intent to delve into any of that, then it was a mistake even labelling and promoting the new character as Sabra in the first place - hence why the character should be removed. Edited January 1, 2024 by Scarilian
Callistereo Posted January 1, 2024 Posted January 1, 2024 9 hours ago, The_Fiery_Rooster said: Yeah, super suspicious about the April 2024 release date. However, the set sounds great! I'm so glad we're actually getting another Red Hulk, hopefully a summer set includes the Avengers Tower Hulk (or a different one, maybe an angry face?) so the new style is more accessible to everyone. Who said it was releasing in April? if anything everyone is saying the opposite
Buckethead Posted January 1, 2024 Posted January 1, 2024 2 hours ago, Scarilian said: I don't think you understand the reason why she might be removed. It's more related to the history of her character and the context of what she's about. If Disney have no intent to delve into any of that, then it was a mistake even labelling and promoting the new character as Sabra in the first place - hence why the character should be removed. I don't get any of the criticisms with the character. Marvel said Shira Haas would play a new character and that she would deviate somewhat from the comics. We don't know any more about the character other than rumors and speculation. There's no reason to assume that she'll be unrecognizable from the comics, nor that she'll be identical to the comics. I don't expect Marvel or Lego to remove her (it might also be too late). Other than her being Israeli, Sabra is a state superhero. A major question asked of Falcon & the Winter Soldier is "What does it mean to be Captain America?" Sam Wilson struggles with this but ultimately concludes Captain America is more than his country, but a hero for all people. The final episode is even called "One World, One People." Choosing to adapt a state superhero is likely meant to foil Sam Wilson's journey. I predict Sabra will basically be Israeli John Walker: a reoccurring antagonist, later turned ally.
poisonbricks Posted January 1, 2024 Posted January 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, Buckethead said: I don't get any of the criticisms with the character. Marvel said Shira Haas would play a new character and that she would deviate somewhat from the comics. We don't know any more about the character other than rumors and speculation. There's no reason to assume that she'll be unrecognizable from the comics, nor that she'll be identical to the comics. Criticisms of the character are that maybe it's not a great idea to bring back a character whose most recognisable arc is needing to learn that a dead Palestinian kid is actually a human being. Especially at this time. If she's close to the comics, bad move, if she's nothing like the comics, why use her at all? There's no version that isn't distasteful.
Buckethead Posted January 1, 2024 Posted January 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, poisonbricks said: Criticisms of the character are that maybe it's not a great idea to bring back a character whose most recognisable arc is needing to learn that a dead Palestinian kid is actually a human being. Especially at this time. If she's close to the comics, bad move, if she's nothing like the comics, why use her at all? There's no version that isn't distasteful. Spoiler This isn't really Lego related, so I'm creating this Spoiler box to take up less space, but . . . The only reason that's her most recognizable arc is because online pundits say it is. The truth is there are several Marvel characters with messed up histories who have and/or will change to fit a new audience (i.e. Hank Pam beating his wife, Starfox r***ing women in She-Hulk, Red Guardian supporting the USSR, etc.). But I agree; if Marvel adapts that particular scene in the new Captain America movie, I'll agree it's a bad move. I think most of us agree that won't happen. Another issue I run into is everyone thinking any change to the character makes her completely different. Even if she isn't Israeli, she may still be a state superhero. Or maybe she is Israeli, but isn't a state superhero. Maybe they mention her son dying during the Intifada, or maybe they don't. And I want to stress the second part of my previous post. If Sabra is similar to the comics, she'll more than likely be an antagonist in the film, not a glorified bigot.
JeanGreyForever Posted January 1, 2024 Posted January 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, poisonbricks said: Criticisms of the character are that maybe it's not a great idea to bring back a character whose most recognisable arc is needing to learn that a dead Palestinian kid is actually a human being. Especially at this time. If she's close to the comics, bad move, if she's nothing like the comics, why use her at all? There's no version that isn't distasteful. I only vaguely know of her from the comics but had no idea that was an actual arc for her. Marvel is much better off cutting this character. The entire film is already being reshot anyway due to script complications especially with the Kang debacle and the failure of The Marvels. I'm not expecting this film to do well anyway based on tracking.
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