56 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

In interviews the designer said they look at how many new figures they can make in a year. Essentially, the same figures came in the Bugle and retail sets to spread out the minifig budget, and in the end the Bugle only had 9 unique prints. If we only have a Batman D2C coming this year and no regular retail sets, I think there's no way we get 20 brand new minifigures. 

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Well, if they’re limited by the number of new prints they can make in a year, we may be in luck because Ant-Man Quantumania skipped out on minifigures, Flash and Aquaman would have been budgeted for last year, and GotG Vol 3 uses the same torso for everyone.

 

5 hours ago, bricksbyjim said:

Had a thought on minifigures. Since this is a Batcave it may make it hard to have villains. Obviously I am expecting some cool easter eggs in terms of a trophy room but villain figures will likely be scarce. If they make a bat-prison (which is super common in the $100 playlets so you can include villains) I think it would look odd, as most Batches don't really have a prison section. Granted, they will almost 100% include Joker, Harley, or another iconic villain but I really hope they do it in a good way. (IE we don't need some silly villain vehicle or bat prison to take away from the Batcave).

I don't get why the villains thing is an issue. Just say they're attacking the batcave. Lego does it often enough in the system sets.

13 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

I don't get why the villains thing is an issue. Just say they're attacking the batcave. Lego does it often enough in the system sets.

Besides that, I think most villains have been to the Batcave in one media or another. Joker. Penguin. Riddler. Catwoman. Harley Quinn. Bane. Two-Face. Ra’s Al Ghul. 

35 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

I don't get why the villains thing is an issue. Just say they're attacking the batcave. Lego does it often enough in the system sets.

It's not really an issue, but I think we're looking at less figs than the Bugle and I would hope that they skew more towards that Bat-Family. I don't need another Joker or Harley (although I'm sure we'll get them). I'm hoping this sells well and we get an Arkham that is more villain based.

5 hours ago, PGBQW said:

but TLBM alfred is in no way inspired by the 60's version, it literally could not look any different

I meant an Alfred that wasn't based on his appearances in the movies, The Lego Batman Movie included, or the one version that was specifically made for the 60s Batcave. Just a straight up comic book version of Alfred/pretty much how he appeared in the DC Super Villains game, especially now that Lego has made that balding hairpiece with the black hair and combover printing on top of it as an actual piece. This is practically a modernized 2006 Alfred:

8 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

I think they meant an Alfred based on the 66 show or any of the other movies (Keaton, Bale etc). TLBM being a movie of itself also falling under that criteria.

Bingo.

Villains? I want the Suicide Squad! Lol

I am hoping this is not only a cave build, but would allow for a modular building to be placed on top.

I don know guys, but I don't think it's unreasonable for people to want a lot of minifigures in a  +500€ set.

I like the sound of a new Batcave, but why does it have to be this large? I have no idea where to put that monstrosity They’re really going overboard with these $500 sets

7 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

 

 

7 hours ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

 

Ok, I get your point.  However it all depends on the budget they have available, Rivendell is a great example.  However I personally don't think there will be 20 minifigures.  The Bugle was facilitated in this sense, by the ease of assembling the minis but also by the need to give life to the building.  Batcave doesn't really need a crowd.  I'd settle for some new villain...

Edited February 22, 20232 yr by Legocentrico

2 hours ago, hikouki said:

Villains? I want the Suicide Squad! Lol

I am hoping this is not only a cave build, but would allow for a modular building to be placed on top.

That would actually be a really cool way to give an in-universe justification for including villains. 

I don't really buy many DC sets (I have some figures and a Batmobile or two) but considering how SW and Marvel are turning out this year this may be my big Lego purchase for 2023. Very excited to see it. 

So it seems like overall, Batman, Robin, Batgirl, Joker, Harley Quinn and Penguin are the characters most likely capable of being repeated for the Batcave, as they were available in 2021-2022 sets (or magazines in the case of Robin).

I'd hope they held onto the 2020 Nightwing to still be usable, as I'd be disappointed if they had to use part of their new print budget on him, unless it was a drastically different design like his classic costume.

If they include Catwoman, I'd similarly hope that the 2019 one is still usable, to avoid another arguably wasted new printing slot.

Alfred should only need a couple new prints if they do something similar to the aforementioned LDCSV game version (though probably without leg printing)

I predict we'll see Red Hood, who will definitely need new prints after a seven year absence, though I still think the recent comic design that Spin Master used for their figure line could be a decent choice to get something distinct from the 2016 minifigure.

I'd be surprised if we didn't get Tim Drake, and getting a Red Robin variation of him would be worth using a couple new prints for.

Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain, and Azrael would be my top picks for completely new Bat-Family characters.

Civilian variants of some Bat-Family members would be neat to get, though I don't think I'd want LEGO to use the new print budget on them, and I wouldn't be too bothered if they were absent altogether.

My top picks for revamped villains: Black and white suit Two-Face, Vidiyo slime head Clayface, and 2021 bigfig mold Bane.

My top picks for completely new villains: Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, Hush, and Black Mask.

My hope is that they have a larger new print budget than the Bugle (maybe even somewhat close to Rivendell's if we're lucky) and make the most of the minifigure selection with this set, unless they plan on being more consistent with comic Batman sets going forward.  It'd be disappointing if we don't get any new villains (For me, one of the biggest downfalls of the Daily Bugle was that unless you count Black Cat as a villain, every villain included was one we'd gotten previously)  

 

Edited February 22, 20232 yr by spiderfan2000

2 hours ago, hikouki said:

I am hoping this is not only a cave build, but would allow for a modular building to be placed on top.

Technically it wont be a "Modular" building on top as Modulars currently are built on baseplates which wont connect to anything on the underside but like you I hope it allows for a future building to be placed on top.

I really don't see how a Bat cave can be justified at this price, at least not when there are many better options for that price point.  I am actually disappointed that it's another Batcave (all be it a big one)  I'd much rather of had a Wayne Manor or even better an Arkham Asylum.  Imo AA hasn't been done real justice yet and the only way it can be is by having a set of this scale for it.  However given the scale of this set and the fact that it's going to be fully enclosable makes me think we will eventually get a D2C Wayne Manor to accompany the Bat cave to sit on top. 

On a more positive note it is nice for fresh Batman sets and I'm sure this will give us characters we have never seen before.  Personally I'd love to see Black Mask, The Ventriloquist & Mad Hatter, I'd say they are the most famous/popular villains that have still not yet made an appearance in Lego form.  It'd be nice to get a Deathstroke with a removable helmet as well.  

Do we know if this set is going to be based off of the comic books or not? 

 

Tbh a 450€ Wayne Manor sounds like a terrible set 

It's literally just a regular manor belonging to a wealthy family. There's nothing Batman-y about it.

Edited February 22, 20232 yr by THELEGOBATMAN

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Tbh a 450€ Wayne Manor sounds like a terrible set 

It's literally just a regular manor belonging to a wealthy family. There's nothing Batman-y about it.

In that case, it’ll appeal to AFOLs who want a big mansion. 😁

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Tbh a 450€ Wayne Manor sounds like a terrible set 

It's literally just a regular manor belonging to a wealthy family. There's nothing Batman-y about it.

Hopefully Wayne Manor would be cheaper

2 minutes ago, upliftingbricks said:

Hopefully Wayne Manor would be cheaper

Yeah, it wouldn't need the stone cave walls to encase the build, and assuming something like that would be relatively the same size (even a bit smaller to fit on top) I can only assume it will be cheaper.

The Bugle had several regular sets near to it in order to release the minifigures. I hope that something similar happens to the Batcave in future, reigniting the theme.

im actually so confused about this set, its set to be fully enclosed, does that mean its essentially just a big grey blob that can open up and has a bat cave in it? kind of odd

2 minutes ago, Surge said:

im actually so confused about this set, its set to be fully enclosed, does that mean its essentially just a big grey blob that can open up and has a bat cave in it? kind of odd

Well, you can either display it opened up as The Batcave, or closed as a big gray rock. 😁

16 minutes ago, Surge said:

im actually so confused about this set, its set to be fully enclosed, does that mean its essentially just a big grey blob that can open up and has a bat cave in it? kind of odd

No, I think they meant it more like a dollhouse

1 hour ago, Surge said:

im actually so confused about this set, its set to be fully enclosed, does that mean its essentially just a big grey blob that can open up and has a bat cave in it? kind of odd

Bruh, no 

It basically means that the cave is not gonna suddenly stop in places. It's gonna be around the base of the set, walls etc.

1 hour ago, Surge said:

im actually so confused about this set, its set to be fully enclosed, does that mean its essentially just a big grey blob that can open up and has a bat cave in it? kind of odd

Think of it as a really expensive and well done diorama. I'm happy they've gone this route; I can't for the life of me figure out why people want the Manor so badly, and it would cost a fortune. Can anyone name a single interesting part of the Manor aside from the various depictions of the entrance to the cave (which we got in the '66 Batcave)?

 

Depending on the footprint of the cave, I may try to MOC a section of the Manor from parts from the Big Ben set, but I'm glad I don't have to pay extra for it as part of the Batcave set.

Edited February 22, 20232 yr by NovaBricks

11 minutes ago, NovaBricks said:

Think of it as a really expensive and well done diorama. I'm happy they've gone this route; I can't for the life of me figure out why people want the Manor so badly, and it would cost a fortune. Can anyone name a single interesting part of the Manor aside from the various depictions of the entrance to the cave (which we got in the '66 Batcave)?

 

Depending on the footprint of the cave, I may try to MOC a section of the Manor from parts from the Big Ben set, but I'm glad I don't have to pay extra for it as part of the Batcave set.

The same could be said for The Daily Bugle. No one knows the inside or cares about it. It’s only the exterior anyone recognizes. Same for Wayne Manor. The appeal of Wayne Manor is having a giant building on top of the Batcave. Now, were Lego to actually do it, they could go the same route as The Bugle and just make up rooms/pull from sources. Some obvious choices for rooms in a Wayne Manor would be Bruce’s office, the armory from Batman 89, the library from Batman Begins, and the main hallway from Batman Forever. Pull off the same technique of multiple floors on the exterior, single floor on the outside from the Sanctum Sanctorum. You’ve got a decent Wayne Manor that, with a nice set of figures, could probably sell in the $200-$300 range.

 

Edit: The living room from Batman 66 is another room that could be fun to include.

Edited February 22, 20232 yr by psqidexslizer

1 minute ago, psqidexslizer said:

The same could be said for The Daily Bugle. No one knows the inside or cares about it. It’s only the exterior anyone recognizes. Same for Wayne Manor. The appeal of Wayne Manor is having a giant building on top of the Batcave. Now, were Lego to actually do it, they could go the same route as The Bugle and just make up rooms/pull from sources. Some obvious choices for rooms in a Wayne Manor would be Bruce’s office, the armory from Batman 89, the party room from Batman Begins, and the main hallway from Batman Forever. Pull off the same technique of multiple floors on the exterior, single floor on the outside from the Sanctum Sanctorum. You’ve got a decent Wayne Manor that, with a nice set of figures, could probably sell in the $200-$300 range.

Sure, you could Frankenstein it together. But keep in mind they were able to plaster "DAILY BUGLE" on the outside of the bugle, and some TV screens and whatnot to make it more interesting. The Manor is just going to be a Victorian looking thing. Not saying it can't be done, but I think it's far more a challenge than the Bugle to make interesting. The Bugle really benefits from seamlessly sliding into existing Lego Cities in a way that would be more challenging with a mansion with a cave underneath.