Accio Lego Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Noticed something while comparing the new information with what we’d already been speculating about: We knew that both 76430 and 76432 both had low piece counts for their listed prices, and the latter is obviously explained by having a large molded animal included. But 76430 is the Owlery, which doesn’t really scream ‘large molded parts’. And curiously enough, 76430 has nearly the same piece count as 76426, but costs $7 more, which is strange considering that 76426 is the Boathouse and presumably will include a large molded part - unless they plan on making a boathouse without including an actual boat. Which is all just my way of saying that I’m looking at the Owlery specifications and wondering just how many owls the designers plan on stuffing in this set. (I’m pretty sure we’ll see a Lego owl record broken here)
Roebuck Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Yaxley said: LEGO 76424 Flying Ford Anglia – the set will consist of 165 elements. The set includes Harry and Ron minifigures, plus a Hedwig and a rat figure. LEGO 76425 Jadwiga Visiting ul. Privet Drive 4 – the set will consist of 337 elements. It will include, among other things: a plaque (address sticker) on which Hedwig will sit to be built. LEGO 76426 Hogwarts House on the Water - set of 350 pieces. We will receive four minifigures (Harry, one of the professors and two students). Plus a house and two small boats. The set is supposed to be a Hogwarts module. LEGO 76428 Hagrid's Hut: An Unexpected Visit - 896 pieces. The set includes 4 minifigures - Hagrid, Harry, Hermione and Ron. Additionally, figures of Fang the dog and Norbert the dragon. The cottage itself has a small annex and is open ("half"), and inside, among others, sofa, armchair, table and lots of gadgets related to the HP series. LEGO 76429 Talking Sorting Hat – 561 pieces. Collector's set 18+. The tiara is supposed to have movable mouth, eyes and "eyebrows". Plus a sound brick. Its diameter is approximately 30 cm. LEGO 76430 Hogwarts Owlery – 364 pieces. Owlery in the form of a tower. Includes 3 minifigures - Harry, caretaker Argus Filch and Cho Chang. LEGO 76432 Forbidden Forest: Magical Creatures – 172 pieces. Includes two Ron and Hermione minifigures. 12 hours ago, Yaxley said: Hedwig will be something similar to Dobby. The forbidden forest will have a hippogriff and a few other animals. In Hagrids cottage will be also Draco. If this is true it sounds like the best HP wave animal-wise in several years Owlery, forbidden forest and Fang The sorting hat while not interesting to me and a rather strange set, if true would mean that In my mind one of the more unlikely sets that leaked from the survey is coming and suddenly the odds for the medieval village set coming increased a lot This sounds to good to be true, but we will see 10 hours ago, Seaber said: That Forbidden Forest set sounds interesting. It would be great if the Hippogriff was not Buckbeak and could be a more varied colour. Yes, maybe one in a brown color 5 hours ago, Accio Lego said: Oh yeah! Owlery, boathouse, and magical creatures - let’s go!!! Very much excited for the boathouse and owlery sets. We’ve never gotten an actual minifig compatible boathouse before (and for all the complaints about no new characters, it sounds like this one is might be fleshing out our student roster a bit), and previous representations of the owlery were just a few owls stuffed in the top of a tower in a large castle build, so getting the movie accurate structure should be fun. And we’re totally getting the new small owl mold included in this set, calling it now. Smowl 51 minutes ago, Accio Lego said: Which is all just my way of saying that I’m looking at the Owlery specifications and wondering just how many owls the designers plan on stuffing in this set. (I’m pretty sure we’ll see a Lego owl record broken here) I hope you are right, but believe it when I see it, If they only put 2 owls in that set they have missed the point completely
BrickBob Studpants Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roebuck said: If this is true it sounds like the best HP wave animal-wise in several years Animal-wise, this wave sounds indeed fantastic! Location-wise, it sounds decent. Build-wise, it sounds meh. Minifig-wise, it sounds absolutely terrible. It’s an okay-ish wave overall, but 7 sets and not a single new character in sight (except for a random student or two if we‘re lucky?) has to set a new record
MaxHeadroom Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 That Hagrid’s Hut set still sounds crazy. One (possibly two?) new creature molds, Hagrid, an additional 4 figures, and somehow nearly 900 parts in a $74.99 set? Is it going to have a roof covered in 1x1 tiles or something? Maybe I’ll get it. Two modular Hogwarts sets is interesting. I guess they’ve realized they don’t actually need to reboot Hogwarts every three years. Wish they would’ve come to that realization back when we had a good Hogwarts system. Can’t see them releasing two more at the start of the year and then doing a reboot in the summer. Not sure if I’ll pick up these or not. So far I’ve only gotten the chamber, polyjuice potion, hospital, and Sirius’ escape. As for the buildings themselves we’ve now got 12 sets and two GWP for this Hogwarts system with a price of around $620 (estimate, since the prices have changed) and this whole thing features a grand total of two classrooms (DADA and Astronomy). For context, the last system contained twice as many classrooms for a bit over half the price (DADA, Astronomy, and two potions). With the battle of Hogwarts interior supposedly being the great hall, that means we’ve got as many great halls in this system as we do classrooms. Not to mention our endless supply of basically empty hallways. I can’t be the only one who finds this ridiculous right? Boathouse and Owlery are fine but could we get a bit more to show this is meant to be a school? The Forbidden Forest is the only one that really definitely appeals to me. Don’t need buckbeak but it should be nice getting a bunch of creatures and hopefully a decent tree. 1 hour ago, Accio Lego said: Which is all just my way of saying that I’m looking at the Owlery specifications and wondering just how many owls the designers plan on stuffing in this set. (I’m pretty sure we’ll see a Lego owl record broken here) I’d expect like 3 or 4, and it could definitely just have 2 knowing Lego. I still think owls are a bit of a mess in this reboot and adding in a smaller owl won’t really help things. We’ve got white flying and sitting, reddish brown sitting, sand blue flying, and sitting tan with a bizarre closed eye. Personally a sitting version of the sand blue owl and a sitting tan owl with both eyes open would be appreciated.
BrickBob Studpants Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, MaxHeadroom said: […] and sitting tan with a bizarre closed eye. That one was originally introduced in a City set where it has to be rescued from a forest fire, and it has one eye closed because of the smoke Pretty specific print, but it still fits into HP, I think. But I agree, a sitting version of the sand blue one would be cool! Or a reprint of the flying tan one from BAM, but those parts always stay exclusive, sadly. I would also like to see the dark bluish grey one from the 2010/11 sets return. And yeah, the new small one from Marvel CMF S2 needs to be featured here too! My thoughts on the individual sets: Hedwig: our third buildable Hedwig (fourth if you count the Dots one), but at least it’s in a new scale. That’s… something? Sorting Hat: the best thing about this is the fact it’s the very first confirmed set from the survey leak!! Owlery: More owls is neat, but I don’t give a flying **** about the minifigs. We’ve had enough Harrys, Chos, and Filches already. Boathouse: BORING Flying Ford: BOOOOORING Forbidden Forest: Excruciatingly repetitive minifigs, but the animals have a lot of potential! Hagrid’s Hut: the clear highlight of the wave. Once again, boring minifigs (unless Hagrid gets an apron and mittens), but Fang and Norbert(a) are excellent additions! Pretty mixed bag overall. Us animal fans are getting a 5* luxurious dinner, but us minifig fans are starving. I’m both, so that puts me in a funny superposition where I’m both eating well and starving
THELEGOBATMAN Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Well, that's quite an intriguing wave. What surprises me is that you'd think that a theme with such creative restrictions (only eight movies) would be getting less sets in its seventh year, but it's actually the year with the biggest number of sets. They have to sell extremely well. Ford Anglia is okay, especially since it'll be four years since we got the last one. Privet Drive with Hedwig is actually a really cute idea for 20€ — a small buildable object you can display anywhere. Hogwarts Expansions sound nice, but not particularly interesting. Hagrid's Hut is the clear standout here. I hope it's fully enclosed at that price point. Sorting Hat is such a weird idea, I'm really interested in seeing videos of how it works. If the creatures in the Forbidden Forest set are moulded (which it seems they are), then it's gonna be a really good set.
Agent Kallus Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) Well I know I go FERAL when we start talking about the survey sets but if we are getting the sorting hat ( which was surely the worst of them) then maybe we are getting all of them!!! And to keep this post relavent to this thread, that would include the large D2C Weasley's Burrow house. Edited September 8, 2023 by Agent Kallus
Black Falcon Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Agent Kallus said: Well I know I go FERAL when we start talking about the survey sets but if we are getting the sorting hat ( which was surely the worst of them) then maybe we are getting all of them!!! And to keep this post relavent to this thread, that would include the large D2C Weasley's Burrow house. Or we are just getting the ones that went well with the Survey. I mean, that is kinda the idea behind all that right? Although some sets might just get changed based on the surveys. Like a big set becomes a smaller one etc. The burrows however doesn´t seem that unlikely though. I mean, the hat was clearly the more unlike one of them.
Accio Lego Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said: Well I know I go FERAL when we start talking about the survey sets but if we are getting the sorting hat ( which was surely the worst of them) then maybe we are getting all of them!!! And to keep this post relavent to this thread, that would include the large D2C Weasley's Burrow house. I’m wary about assuming the upcoming Sorting Hat set is the same one we saw in the survey leak. They might be in roughly the same ball park price wise, but nothing in the survey leaks gave any indication of the reported sound brick, and based off the piece count we know that’s taking up a massive chunk of the budget. Given that the entire purpose of the the survey was to determine what people would be willing to pay for various sets, you’d think the sound brick would be crucial to let the survey takers know about so they could give a properly informed answer. But I don’t remember any mention of something like that when the leaks first came out. Not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, but it’s entirely possible that the sorting hat from the survey was a random sketch model thought up and discarded before the designers had the idea of adding a sound brick to the mix, and what we see on shelves in March will look different on account of a more limited parts budget to accommodate the sound brick. We just won’t know for sure until official pictures drop, and jumping the gun and assuming all the survey leak images are probably coming as a result seems rather dangerous.
Agent Kallus Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 50 minutes ago, Accio Lego said: Not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, but it’s entirely possible that the sorting hat from the survey was a random sketch model thought up and discarded before the designers had the idea of adding a sound brick to the mix, and what we see on shelves in March will look different on account of a more limited parts budget to accommodate the sound brick. We just won’t know for sure until official pictures drop, and jumping the gun and assuming all the survey leak images are probably coming as a result seems rather dangerous. Well that's why I said I've gone feral, not that I'm being reasonable. ( don't worry my paraders wear rain coats) 1 hour ago, Black Falcon said: Or we are just getting the ones that went well with the Survey. I mean, that is kinda the idea behind all that right? Although some sets might just get changed based on the surveys. Like a big set becomes a smaller one etc. The burrows however doesn´t seem that unlikely though. I mean, the hat was clearly the more unlike one of them. I mean let's be honest, it's a fair assumption to assume that if the buildable sorting hat did well enough enough with the survey that everything else did too. Cause at least for an Afol perspective it seems like a joke, UCS Dobby's sock sort thing. Though from what @JeanGreyForever said at the time, I got the impression that survey was more about what prices people would be willing to pay for certain sets. And it was said to include mostly existing sets, with the few (tremendously exciting) new and unreleased ones snuck in. 57 minutes ago, Accio Lego said: I’m wary about assuming the upcoming Sorting Hat set is the same one we saw in the survey leak. They might be in roughly the same ball park price wise, but nothing in the survey leaks gave any indication of the reported sound brick, and based off the piece count we know that’s taking up a massive chunk of the budget. Given that the entire purpose of the the survey was to determine what people would be willing to pay for various sets, you’d think the sound brick would be crucial to let the survey takers know about so they could give a properly informed answer. But I don’t remember any mention of something like that when the leaks first came out. I mean same build or not is irrelevant really. It's the same idea anyway. P And yeah the sound brick does seem to be a new addition, and a big one. Perhaps it's precisely because people surveyed didn't think it worth the price, and so the sound brick was added to justify the price? Probably not though. More likely that the just wasn't quite finalised when the survey went out, so they omitted the sound brick idea as it wasn't fully developed and integrated at that point. Perhaps? Unrelated point but it would be fun if the sound brick was like mario digifigs, and had a colour scanner and so if you scanned green it'd say Slytherin, yellow Hufflepuff and so on.
Seaber Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) Assuming all information is correct, there is huge potential for variants (Hagrid and Trio in the hut, Ron and Hermione in the FF, all three figs in the Owlery) but only two possibly new characters. Both are so far unnamed students the boathouse set - it sounds like it's from the start of Year 1 so it's likely Harry's two chums will be in the non-house robes. The list of missing students is now pretty slim: Alicia Spinnet, Millicent Bulstrode, Ernie MacMillain, Penelope Clearwater, Roger Davies, Eloise Midgen, Zacharias Smith, Leanne, Katie Bell, Cormac McLaggen, Marcus Belby. Of those, only Ernie and Millicent are in Harry's year I think. However, Fang and Norbert of the list of creatures is great! We still don't have a dedicated Trevor (although plenty of frogs/toads in the sets) Errol, or Firenze, however all other named creatures, beasts and beings are accounted for. We're just waited on the Troll in the Dungeon, Unicorn (RIP), Inferi, Giants from the BoH and (I doubt this will ever happen) the other three Triwizard dragons. Edited September 8, 2023 by Seaber
kill will Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 I know most people here are more excited about Gringott's than another microscale Hogwarts but we just received ours yesterday and love it! I probably wouldn't have bought it for myself but my girlfriend was super hyped for it and shared all the pre release pics with me, glad we picked it up! I think it looks much better than the considerably larger and more expensive previous version. Sure, some of the finer details are lost, but I think the overall silhouette looks nicer and I really like the water and terrain of the smaller version. Sometimes less is more and I think the more zoomed out perspective looks better for a display piece. The super micro versions of iconic areas and scenes are still fully recognizable and the instruction pages with little blurbs about them are quite fun to read as you build. Overall very pleased with it and it's a nice change of pace after building the absolutely massive Ninjago gardens/market combo. This is my first and likely only HP set (other than the awesome GWPs that came with it) so I'm probably the exact target demographic for it. I can see it not really fitting in with a larger HP display but it works very well as a standalone piece.
Black Falcon Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: Well that's why I said I've gone feral, not that I'm being reasonable. ( don't worry my paraders wear rain coats) I mean let's be honest, it's a fair assumption to assume that if the buildable sorting hat did well enough enough with the survey that everything else did too. Cause at least for an Afol perspective it seems like a joke, UCS Dobby's sock sort thing. I agree with you there. And really I would have bet they wouldn´t do it. It might be, that the hat didn´t receive that good ratings in the survey so they decided to include the sound brick. I mean, I would expect that you click some button and then the had randomly says one of the four houses. That kinda would be the selling point of it instead of beeing just for show.
MaxHeadroom Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 12 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: 13 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said: That one was originally introduced in a City set where it has to be rescued from a forest fire, and it has one eye closed because of the smoke Pretty specific print, but it still fits into HP, I think Yeah I remember discussions around it at the time. It’s fine as a one off but not one I’d want to see multiples of. Just checked and apparently it was only in Diagon Alley so not much of a problem. There’s also the dark tan owl from a couple sets I forgot about (guess I assumed the tan and dark tan were the same). The owls are just lacking a certain consistency that the owls in both the 2001-2007 and 2010/11 lines had. The main things are flying ones since aside from obviously being a different mould since they’re not really posed to be flying which adds to the weirdness. The sand blue owl also looks really weird to me. Generally it’s a weird color, the orange eyes stick out, the print on the body has a lot of contrast, and of course it’s flying. It really sticks out like a sore thumb with all the other owls imo. Now that the new lead has probably seen all the sets this year through their whole development, I wonder if things will get less cartoonish. The reboot was always a bit more cartoonish than the earlier versions of the theme but it’s only gone further as time has gone on. The switch from blue pants to sand blue on DH2 Harry figures could be telling that they’re toning it down a bit, but that could just be wishful thinking.
Modal Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 It looks like the first attempt to expand the Hogwarts and Grounds architecture set has arrived. https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-158172/JL.Bricks/wizard-castle-and-grounds-expansion/#details It's hard to say how well it accomplishes that without seeing them together, but I look forward to seeing more attempts until we can get to the "definitive" MOC expansion
???theriddler??? Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Just finished the first half of the Gringotts set: The underground section and the Iron Belly dragon. At first I wasn't a fan of the underground section, I just wanted the top part! But man, the build is actually amazing and very, very clever. It's not easy to design something like this. Kudos for the designer and that you can actually fit underneath Gringotts is just amazing. And now onto the dragon, I wasn't a fan and I'm still not. While I understand the inclusion of the dragon, the build frustrated me a lot. I don't like to build technic lego and this was a hard part. I was glad when I was done with the dragon. Tomorrow time for the Gringotts!
BrickBob Studpants Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 I’m almost guaranteed to set myself up for disappointment, but I’m still hoping that some of the minifigs are just placeholders and will be replaced by more interesting characters. Just like McGonagall in the prelim picture of Dumbledore‘s Office, which turned out to be Mme Pince in the end Of course none of these sets have even the slightest potential of including highly desirable characters, but there are still some minor ones they could put into sets like these (such as Prof Vector or Prof Grubbly-Plank). And if the list is 100% finalised, at least we‘re getting Fang and some other animals
chris6507 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 I started building Gringott's with the Mrs last night and after a random draw I ended up with the box building the Gringott's itself. My first thought having starting with book 3 page 1 was... Well this kind of makes the whole Silencio thing from the Diagon Alley irrelevant now. Not sure if anyone else had a similiar thought, but seriously, the exact same Hagrid and Harry? Why bother putting them in Diagon Alley at all if they were just going to be her fulfilling the same role again?
FrightFlight Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 This is a bleak group of sets if I'm honest. There's usually at least one set that'll hook me each wave but this one and the last had none. The most I can hope for here is that the Ford Anglia will finally be able to seat two passengers next to each other. We haven't had that basic feature of a car since 2011!
Mordarch Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 I just built the new Hogwarts model and it's a great looking model. Whilst I apreciate the little texts explaining locations in and around Hogwarts in the instruction manual, there's a few that are just plain wrong. They put a few events from the wooden bridge at the viaduct and some of the Clocktower courtyard scenes at the Quad. It's funny that all these events happen near the Clocktower, which is the one part they chose to omit in the actual model. The spelling mistake with the Mirror of Erised is also a bit embarassing, even if it's just a small bit.
RedHoodPug Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 9 hours ago, chris6507 said: I started building Gringott's with the Mrs last night and after a random draw I ended up with the box building the Gringott's itself. My first thought having starting with book 3 page 1 was... Well this kind of makes the whole Silencio thing from the Diagon Alley irrelevant now. Not sure if anyone else had a similiar thought, but seriously, the exact same Hagrid and Harry? Why bother putting them in Diagon Alley at all if they were just going to be her fulfilling the same role again? I don't think that when they were designing Diagon Alley some three-four years ago they had the final line up for Gringotts in place.
BrickBob Studpants Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 16 hours ago, chris6507 said: […] but seriously, the exact same Hagrid and Harry? Why bother putting them in Diagon Alley at all if they were just going to be her fulfilling the same role again? Harry has a different faceprint Seriously though, I get your point, but I don’t mind the repeats at all. They were basically gift characters in the DA set (not being advertised on the box and all that), so having a couple extra minifigs is not a bad thing, even if they’re almost identical. They’re sort of separate from the display anyway, being on a stand with a quote And as @RedHoodPug points out, they probably don’t think that far ahead. I doubt the designers thought “nah, we can’t put Harry and Hagrid in DA, they’re gonna show up again in the Gringotts expansion we’re gonna do at some point!”
brickbride Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 Just got back from holiday, caught up on the 2024 rumours, and I have to say I'm not at all excited. Harry this, Ron and Hermione that, meh. I can't believe they're actually making the buildable Sorting Hat - as others have pointed out, it basically looks like a dark brown turd, and who wants that on their shelf? And just how many buildable Hedwigs do we need? No Snape or Slytherin stuff to tempt me with, either. ;-) Also, what would McGonagall even be doing at the Boathouse, especially at a time when new students arrive? Shouldn't that be Hagrid there? I guess they didn't want to have too many Hagrids in this wave, but still. To me that's weird especially because the Battle of Hogwarts set this year was rumoured to include McGonagall but then didn't. Could there have been a mix-up of some sort?
JeanGreyForever Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 With Gringotts out now, does everyone think that expansions to the D2C Diagon Alley sets are done and the ongoing focus will only be on the cheaper, playset versions like what we got with Weasley's Wizard Wheezes? Or is there a chance we could still get a D2C Knockturn Alley to connect with Diagon Alley in the future? 13 minutes ago, brickbride said: Also, what would McGonagall even be doing at the Boathouse, especially at a time when new students arrive? Shouldn't that be Hagrid there? I guess they didn't want to have too many Hagrids in this wave, but still. To me that's weird especially because the Battle of Hogwarts set this year was rumoured to include McGonagall but then didn't. Could there have been a mix-up of some sort? McGonagall is the one who greets first-year students when the boats arrive at Hogwarts and take them to the Entrance Hall so maybe that's why they chose to use her even if she doesn't appear at the Boathouse itself.
Vindicare Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 7:28 PM, chris6507 said: I started building Gringott's with the Mrs last night and after a random draw I ended up with the box building the Gringott's itself. My first thought having starting with book 3 page 1 was... Well this kind of makes the whole Silencio thing from the Diagon Alley irrelevant now. Not sure if anyone else had a similiar thought, but seriously, the exact same Hagrid and Harry? Why bother putting them in Diagon Alley at all if they were just going to be her fulfilling the same role again? I felt that way when Harry showed up in the AC. While I don’t mind seeing minifigs in expensive sets show up in cheap ones, it does take a little away from what makes that minifig special. On 9/8/2023 at 3:40 PM, ???theriddler??? said: Just finished the first half of the Gringotts set: The underground section and the Iron Belly dragon. At first I wasn't a fan of the underground section, I just wanted the top part! But man, the build is actually amazing and very, very clever. It's not easy to design something like this. Kudos for the designer and that you can actually fit underneath Gringotts is just amazing. And now onto the dragon, I wasn't a fan and I'm still not. While I understand the inclusion of the dragon, the build frustrated me a lot. I don't like to build technic lego and this was a hard part. I was glad when I was done with the dragon. Tomorrow time for the Gringotts! Built mine & I’d still rather just have the bank. The underground is cool & it makes for a fantastic standalone but it’s gonna look funny on display by itself as Gringotts sits in my town with DA.
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