Gideon Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 Breaking out the discussion on AI generated concept art from the main Kaliphlin thread. Reserving first post for highlights. Feedback and requests for other renders are very welcome! I'd be happy also to work on some other guilds's if someone wants some copyright-free concept art for those environments too Quote
Gideon Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 Some ideas for Rakath Mountain settings. Settlements in a valley (maybe too small to be Qarkyr however): Trying to ask the AI for a bit more Eastern Asian influence (not sure if it made so much difference however?) Some upscaled versions and trying to make the city larger (Qarkyr...?) but lost a bit too much of the jaggedness of the mountains: Probably my favorite so far, except for the too smooth mountains: ¨' More to come! Any favorites...? Feedback is welcome! Quote
jtooker Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Breaking this out into its own thread is a good idea. This is my favorite (one in town). You asked for suggestions, so here is mine: I'd like something for the Wither Woods area. I'm most interested in these two aspects: 1. Buildings: I've been trying to (or would like to) have a combination of the architecture styles of Kaliphlin and Avalonia 2. Setting: Using the description of the south-of-wither-woods area ("meager forests and farmlands of Kaliphlin" - though they've had better-than-average growing seasons lately) I'm not sure how much work it is, but if it is easy, having both farm and village images would be great. The one existing image on the main Kaliphlin thread has be the basis of my inspiration so far, so expending upon that would be helpful for me. Another suggestion would be more in-town shots of Kaliphlin towns/cities - though you do have two in the Kaliphlin thread. However, your MOCs, @Gideon, already give plenty of inspiration! Edited January 19, 2023 by jtooker Quote
Gideon Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, jtooker said: 1. Buildings: I've been trying to (or would like to) have a combination of the architecture styles of Kaliphlin and Avalonia Some ideas generated by various prompts around these styles, anyone approaching the vision...? 12 minutes ago, jtooker said: 2. Setting: Using the description of the south-of-wither-woods area ("meager forests and farmlands of Kaliphlin" - though they've had better-than-average growing seasons lately) Some variations on the topic: Quote
jtooker Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 Thank you so much, @Gideon! Those in the '2 Setting' section are especially great and I will certainly be using them! They've also given me ideas of real-world locations I could search for inspiration. The ones in the '1 Buildings' section don't seem to be hitting the mark (though I'm not sure if there is a mark to be hit). The bottommost left image is the one I like most of these. Quote
LittleJohn Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 Lots of fantastic inspiration here, thanks Gideon! Here are a few suggestions for prompts: Mediterranean vineyard with villa and outbuildings in gentle rolling landscape Underground goblin village with crystal mine and waterfalls Rice terraces in foggy wetlands with medieval village Underground Forest Elven Halls with twisting trees and bridges (similar to my Kolgari Throne Room): Quote
Yoggington Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 You could add 'style lego' to your prompts and see what it comes up with :P Quote
Gideon Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, LittleJohn said: Mediterranean vineyard with villa and outbuildings in gentle rolling landscape 2 hours ago, LittleJohn said: Underground goblin village with crystal mine and waterfalls That was a tricky prompt, not trivial to get the weights right. And definetely no goblins in sight...hmm. But here we got some goblins! (maybe a bit too steampunky however...?) 2 hours ago, LittleJohn said: Rice terraces in foggy wetlands with medieval village Mostly generates Asian style buildings (despite me even specifying "European style roofs" or similar), but I suppose the way to go is to find the favorite composition and iterate on the best looking houses until reaching a suitable style. 2 hours ago, LittleJohn said: Underground Forest Elven Halls with twisting trees and bridges (similar to my Kolgari Throne Room): Including the image in the prompt (and trying my best to find additional input that removed as much as possible of the plastic look) generated something like this: (Tricky to get the bridges however, probably doesn't recognize the bridge in the photo as a bridge...?) 4 hours ago, jtooker said: The ones in the '1 Buildings' section don't seem to be hitting the mark (though I'm not sure if there is a mark to be hit). The bottommost left image is the one I like most of these. Is some of this getting closer then...? 2 hours ago, Yoggington said: You could add 'style lego' to your prompts and see what it comes up with :P That seldom ends well Quote
jtooker Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Gideon said: 6 hours ago, jtooker said: The ones in the '1 Buildings' section don't seem to be hitting the mark (though I'm not sure if there is a mark to be hit). The bottommost left image is the one I like most of these. Is some of this getting closer then...? Possibly... it certainly hits my other request for in-city views. All these are bigger/more dense/more grand than I was imagining though. But I think the architecture style might be closer to what I might want (again, not knowing what I want is what prompted me to ask in the first place). Another unexpected feature of most images is all the potted plants (one I still don't imagine for this part of Historica). All the ornate wood is interesting and something I hadn't considered, but this may be a bit more grand than I want too. If you want to keep trying: use similar prompts but ask a smaller village feel. Certainly smaller buildings and more dirt or loosely paved roads. But I understand if you don't want to spend more time. I appreciate everything you've put forth! Quote
Gideon Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, jtooker said: Possibly... it certainly hits my other request for in-city views. All these are bigger/more dense/more grand than I was imagining though. But I think the architecture style might be closer to what I might want (again, not knowing what I want is what prompted me to ask in the first place). Another unexpected feature of most images is all the potted plants (one I still don't imagine for this part of Historica). All the ornate wood is interesting and something I hadn't considered, but this may be a bit more grand than I want too. If you want to keep trying: use similar prompts but ask a smaller village feel. Certainly smaller buildings and more dirt or loosely paved roads. But I understand if you don't want to spend more time. I appreciate everything you've put forth! It seems to be a bit tricky to force it to render a smaller scale of the town, but here are a few attempts (where I've also specifically asked for dirt road). Ornate wood is probably caused by me specifinging "intricate", which seems to have generated good results for other Kaliphlin renders. But for a smaller scale/less opulent architecture maybe that is a bit off the mark. (It's fun to play with this and I want to maximize the utilization the days I'm paying for unlimited use here, so keep going with ideas for concept art!) Quote
LittleJohn Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 19 hours ago, Gideon said: That was a tricky prompt, not trivial to get the weights right. And definetely no goblins in sight...hmm. But here we got some goblins! (maybe a bit too steampunky however...?) Mostly generates Asian style buildings (despite me even specifying "European style roofs" or similar), but I suppose the way to go is to find the favorite composition and iterate on the best looking houses until reaching a suitable style. Including the image in the prompt (and trying my best to find additional input that removed as much as possible of the plastic look) generated something like this: (Tricky to get the bridges however, probably doesn't recognize the bridge in the photo as a bridge...?) Thanks a lot, there's some fabulous inspiration here! Was curious how it would do with some of those prompts, particularly the goblin mine, as that was definitely a complex one. Still pretty happy with the results though Here's a few more ideas to try: Medieval village in autumn forest with stream and bridge Tree top elven kingdom with birch trees and waterfalls Foggy ocean shore with sharp cliffs and medieval lighthouse on top Quote
Gideon Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, LittleJohn said: Medieval village in autumn forest with stream and bridge Probably a bit more Avalonian however...? 17 minutes ago, LittleJohn said: Tree top elven kingdom with birch trees and waterfalls Also way too Avalonian for me 17 minutes ago, LittleJohn said: Foggy ocean shore with sharp cliffs and medieval lighthouse on top Quote
LittleJohn Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gideon said: Probably a bit more Avalonian however...? Also way too Avalonian for me Haha, whoops, should have stuck those in the Avalonia thread... A few more that are Kaliphlin-themed, if you want to try them - really appreciate you doing all these! Medieval Arabian city gate with bazaar Medieval Arabian Vaulted Map Room Medieval Arabian Vaulted Throne Room Massive Medieval Arabian Great Hall Medieval Middle Eastern Cathedral Interior Those last 4 are different variations trying to get a grand interior, similar to something like these builds: (But Kali-style, obviously.) Quote
jtooker Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 Quote Medieval village in autumn forest with stream and bridge Those are beautiful! I'll try my hand at a few direct prompts: Rural Mediterranean medieval village Rural Turkish medieval village with a well and pack animals Rural medieval village by a forest with a dried up stream Misty ocean along a desert shoreline at daybreak Quote
Gideon Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 5 hours ago, LittleJohn said: Haha, whoops, should have stuck those in the Avalonia thread... A few more that are Kaliphlin-themed, if you want to try them - really appreciate you doing all these! Medieval Arabian city gate with bazaar Medieval Arabian Vaulted Map Room Medieval Arabian Vaulted Throne Room Massive Medieval Arabian Great Hall Medieval Middle Eastern Cathedral Interior Those last 4 are different variations trying to get a grand interior, similar to something like these builds: (But Kali-style, obviously.) Ok! Here are some of the results I got from similar prompts Gate with Bazaar: Map room/library: Throne room: Great hall interior: Cathedral interior: 1 hour ago, jtooker said: Rural Mediterranean medieval village Rural Turkish medieval village with a well and pack animals Rural medieval village by a forest with a dried up stream Misty ocean along a desert shoreline at daybreak Rural Mediterranean medieval village Rural Turkish medieval village with a well and pack animals Rural medieval village by a forest with a dried up stream Misty ocean along a desert shoreline at daybreak Quote
jtooker Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 Those are great! Thank you so much. I think 'Turkish Medieval' is close to the style I was wanting, but could not describe. If you have time, would you run these through? Medieval Turkish inn exterior building on a clear evening Medieval Turkish inn interior serving wine by candlelight Quote
Gideon Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, jtooker said: Those are great! Thank you so much. I think 'Turkish Medieval' is close to the style I was wanting, but could not describe. If you have time, would you run these through? Medieval Turkish inn exterior building on a clear evening Medieval Turkish inn interior serving wine by candlelight A bit tricky to make it render people too...even when I added "crowded" and "lots of people" I only got the crowds below Are these "Turkish" style renders this by the way converging towards the blend between Kaliphlin and Avalonian architecture discussed earlier...? Quote
jtooker Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 Terrific! These are great. 3 minutes ago, Gideon said: Are these "Turkish" style renders this by the way converging towards the blend between Kaliphlin and Avalonian architecture discussed earlier...? Yes, they are close to what I was trying to imagine (if that makes sense). Thank you so much for doing these! Quote
Gideon Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 No problem! It's great to have something useful to create when practicing the prompt crafting A couple of more upscales finished now: (I'm doing something wrong here, they seem to get more blurred/painted the more I scale them up right now) Quote
W Navarre Posted January 21, 2023 Posted January 21, 2023 Well, now I know where to come next time I want to make a GoH build . Quote
Kai NRG Posted January 21, 2023 Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) These are all looking so good! Really making me want to build for Kaliphlin again How about catacombs/underground water vaults (I mean like this, not sure what to call it. I guess this is not something we've done in Kali so far, but it fits with the Byzantine aesthetic) medieval merchant caravan at an oasis medieval shepherds in tents bandits attacking a medieval merchant caravan through a mountain pass Then there is also the swampy area at the bottom of Kali, maybe castle in a swamp medieval fishermen in a swamp land Edited January 21, 2023 by Kai NRG Quote
Gideon Posted January 21, 2023 Author Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kai NRG said: These are all looking so good! Really making me want to build for Kaliphlin again How about catacombs/underground water vaults (I mean like this, not sure what to call it. I guess this is not something we've done in Kali so far, but it fits with the Byzantine aesthetic) medieval merchant caravan at an oasis medieval shepherds in tents bandits attacking a medieval merchant caravan through a mountain pass Then there is also the swampy area at the bottom of Kali, maybe castle in a swamp medieval fishermen in a swamp land No bandits spawned on command...but it created some suggestions for the setting at least It was interpreted as more of the "stately home" kind of castle, but with some more fortifications maybe a good inspiration? Quote
Kai NRG Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Oh yes! I'm loving the caravans, gonna have to build a wagon like that sometime. Houses on stilts are so great too. The castle in the swamp is definitely more ornate than I would have expect, but that kind of fits the Kali vibe. Thanks so much! One day I will build some of these Quote
Gideon Posted January 24, 2023 Author Posted January 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Kai NRG said: Oh yes! I'm loving the caravans, gonna have to build a wagon like that sometime. Houses on stilts are so great too. The castle in the swamp is definitely more ornate than I would have expect, but that kind of fits the Kali vibe. Thanks so much! One day I will build some of these I think I liked the last fortress picture of a more Egyptian style fortress the best, it fits best with my thinking of the south Kali architecture. Maybe I should be a bit careful with the “high detail” and “intricate” in the prompts 🙃 The AI also seems to tend to interpret “castle” more like “château” than fortress. But the Midjourney pictures in general (except for the swamp château) is definitely inspiring me to build a bit more ornate Kali builds, rather than the nougat brick and tan rough-hewn stone style I tend to end up in. Quote
Gideon Posted January 25, 2023 Author Posted January 25, 2023 Generated some more southern Kaliphlin concept art ("fortress in the style of an Egyptian temple"): Quote
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