Lego Icons 10332 Medieval Town Square Discussion Thread

[Mopasali]

25 minutes ago, JohnTPT17 said:

That, and in some ways, it makes more sense to have several new shields in the set featuring a shield-smith. I could very well be wrong, though.

I agree and assume the shieldsmith is there to give some love to fans of other factions and use the parts on PAB.  Printed shields are apparently expensive compared to printed torsos!

Within the Lego kingdom, it is intriguing that MTS is under the protection of a single faction with the Towerguard, but a tradesman can make shields of competing factions.  Maybe the lead faction is okay with treasonous behavior as long as the tax collector gets his due?   This village may not be that happy....

[Triceron]

21 hours ago, DonQuixote said:

I know this is the medieval market forum but I am just curious :

Who is going to buy the Black Falcons Mountain Fortress on Bricklink 7 february? 

I think it looks very good and I am trying to get one. 

They're great builds, but not for me.  They're sort of presented like big mocs.   They can't offer new prints or molds, and that's mostly what I look for in new Lego sets.  That and I don't have the budget or space for another set of giant castles.  Market Square is even going to be stretching it, and at least it's coming in the form of multiple buildings I can try and space out.

7 minutes ago, Mopasali said:

I agree and assume the shieldsmith is there to give some love to fans of other factions and use the parts on PAB.  Printed shields are apparently expensive compared to printed torsos!

Within the Lego kingdom, it is intriguing that MTS is under the protection of a single faction with the Towerguard, but a tradesman can make shields of competing factions.  Maybe the lead faction is okay with treasonous behavior as long as the tax collector gets his due?   This village may not be that happy....

Interesting, didn't know the shields were more expensive.  Where did you hear this?

[Lyichir]

9 minutes ago, Triceron said:

Interesting, didn't know the shields were more expensive.  Where did you hear this?

I had not heard this but if true I expect it's simply because Lego prints so many more torsos and has more equipment overall to do so—meaning that there's much less restriction on how many can be produced and how quickly they can do so. Those sorts of logistical challenges play a bigger role in the relative prices of parts than many people realize.

[Mopasali]

2 hours ago, Triceron said:

Interesting, didn't know the shields were more expensive.  Where did you hear this?

No insider knowledge, but I was basing it on the PAB prices.  I'm assuming they are proportional to Lego's actual cost.

[Classic_Spaceman]

6 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

I think the Village will be the company set for the Lion Knight´s castle, meaning it is placed in their dominion, so we should see their knights then. So, now we could see the Axe Guards as some kind of Town Watch, and they were a faction that were related to the Lion Knights in the past, which the Black Knights are not, that is what I meant when I stated they would be unrelated.

Ah, OK; I was confused because axe knights are just a variant of the Lions, not an entire faction unto themselves. 
 

6 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

The "budget" for the GWP might have only allowed for one new print - if that is the case, I think it would have been just as odd to get a new shield with a plain torso. 

That was my point - The GWP budget only allowed for one new print, but a Dragon Masters shield from the MTS could have been used if we were getting one. 
 

5 hours ago, Mopasali said:

Within the Lego kingdom, it is intriguing that MTS is under the protection of a single faction with the Towerguard, but a tradesman can make shields of competing factions.  Maybe the lead faction is okay with treasonous behavior as long as the tax collector gets his due?   This village may not be that happy....

The Black Falcons and Lion Knights are currently at peace (see LKC instructions), and the Classic Castle era factions seem to be under the Lions’ rule (see LKC), so the shieldsmith has a number of safe options! 
 

[Follows Closely]

3 hours ago, Mopasali said:

No insider knowledge, but I was basing it on the PAB prices.  I'm assuming they are proportional to Lego's actual cost.

I think the price of printed shields is just LEGO price gouging.

[Roebuck]

13 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I feel like we will get a new faction or design in the MTS, since that follows the pattern of previous sets (Blacksmith - Black Falcons, LKC - Lions, Forestmen); also, I am not sure how the Black Knights are unrelated. 
 

I am pretty sure it will be the axe knights and that count as a new fraction even if they are banner-men or similar to the lion knight

12 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

Glad you were able to find one as well!

Thanks, it's my favorite set so this was actually my 3rd copy

12 hours ago, Mopasali said:

Within the Lego kingdom, it is intriguing that MTS is under the protection of a single faction with the Towerguard, but a tradesman can make shields of competing factions.  Maybe the lead faction is okay with treasonous behavior as long as the tax collector gets his due?   This village may not be that happy....

Lego normally do not take things like that into consideration, however was it not normal that every house/knight had their own shield/banner(?) so I guess here was a lot less assembly line production back in the day  I think it's 50-50 that the set will have a new shield print.On one hand there are wasted opportunity not to get one with the shieldsmith, but on the other hand if the budget do not allow it there are plenty to use from LKC after all

[Classic_Spaceman]

11 hours ago, Follows Closely said:

I think the price of printed shields is just LEGO price gouging.

That and probably lower supply than of other parts (but mostly price gouging). 
 

5 hours ago, Roebuck said:

I am pretty sure it will be the axe knights and that count as a new fraction even if they are banner-men or similar to the lion knight

If we get axe Lions, I expect them to reuse the standard Lion legs, so I would not really consider them to be a new faction (even if they have axe shields, as we already have that part in the LKC). 

5 hours ago, Roebuck said:

I think it's 50-50 that the set will have a new shield print.On one hand there are wasted opportunity not to get one with the shieldsmith, but on the other hand if the budget do not allow it there are plenty to use from LKC after all

We are definitely getting at least one new shield print; making a shieldsmith rather than a generic blacksmith then not giving us new shields would be weird. 
 

Edited January 19, 2024 by Classic_Spaceman

[DonQuixote]

On 1/17/2024 at 10:08 PM, JohnTPT17 said:

I don't need any few factions or anything like that. Let the peasants be the stars of the set! Other animals and knights can potentially come in other sets - this might be peasant's one and only time to shine for the next decade. 

Totally agree! It's a civilian set. So let the peasants shine! 

[Black Feather]

10 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

We are definitely getting at least one new shield print; making a shieldsmith rather than a generic blacksmith then not giving us new shields would be weird. 
 

I was thinking this too but then also worried it could just be a good excuse to reuse all the shields from the previous set.  Hopefully, some new ones too at least though.  Hard to believe they wouldn’t throw in a couple.

[Black Feather]

23 minutes ago, DonQuixote said:

Totally agree! It's a civilian set. So let the peasants shine! 

This conversation reminds of when I was a kid and bought 6103 how pissed I was they “wasted” a slot on a peasant instead of another LK to match the two FM and two BF.  LOL.  Of course that was before you could order as much as you want from PAB (and I could afford to).  I also have more appreciation for peasants now.  But still I am more concerned to get more factions as the peasants are easier to pull and create from other themes minifigures than a specific faction.  I understand this will be mostly peasants but will disappointed if they don’t have the double axe at least.  I would really like another FM torso, though not really expecting that.

[Follows Closely]

11 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

... We are definitely getting at least one new shield print; making a shieldsmith rather than a generic blacksmith then not giving us new shields would be weird. 

I will be very dissapointed if we do not get at least two new/update shield prints.

[iragm]

Honestly if this is even close to the leak, I don't think there's any way I could be disappointed with it.

[Mopasali]

3 hours ago, Black Feather said:

But still I am more concerned to get more factions as the peasants are easier to pull and create from other themes minifigures than a specific faction. 

I agree.  The Harry Potter theme is a good source for peasant-like torsos with the high necked waistcoats/vests, cloaks, long sleeves, etc.  Ninjago theme isn't as helpful, but the modest clothing, classic colors (no magenta), and lack of modern additions or prints works well enough.   Modern themes like City really demonstrate how much t-shirts, jeans, and hoodies changed clothing!!  

I also would appreciate one or two more new factions even if to just show how my MTS is a cosmopolitan marketplace.  The towerguard, crook, and the shieldsmith's wares hopefully get us some variety.  I really can't imagine the Dragon torso in the Majisto GWP was made solely for a free set.  And with it almost the Year of the Dragon, it's so appropriate this year!

[Classic_Spaceman]

3 minutes ago, iragm said:

Honestly if this is even close to the leak, I don't think there's any way I could be disappointed with it.

The only thing that would truly be disappointing would be if there far fewer animals and Minifigs in the final version. 
 

5 minutes ago, Mopasali said:

I really can't imagine the Dragon torso in the Majisto GWP was made solely for a free set.  

I can; LEGO has made a number of unique printed elements for GWPs in the past (the limit seems to be 1-2 per set, so that tracks with what we got in the Workshop). 🫤
 

[Doddsino]

Been a while since I posted, and still no pics on this?

I have like $40 in Lego Rewards expiring in February as well, which absolutely stinks given the release date of this.

[Roebuck]

6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

The only thing that would truly be disappointing would be if there far fewer animals and Minifigs in the final version.

Other than the rumoured price per part ratio it should be no problem for Lego to pull this of! I draw the baseline from the prelim, If they have them numbers from that then fine, less is underwhelming and would not mind more
After all if we combine the previous 2 set:

We get 14 minifigs, 10 printet animals and 2264 parts, so they can replace a couple of minifigs with animals and add 1000 parts and Bob's your uncle. Come on Lego you can do it 

[Breakspear]

Personally, I'm hoping that the majority the minifigures are civilians, and that at least half feature new/unique new print designs. It would be great to get a couple of new printed peasant dress pieces, some new peasant tunics. Who knows, perhaps a new 'nobleman/woman' torso print (the tax collector?) too.

The main new military minifigure print I'm hoping for is a new Lion Knight torso variant ('the Axe Knights') as the town guards. However, chance's are it'll just be the standard Lion Knights from the LKC again.

[iragm]

2 hours ago, Breakspear said:

The main new military minifigure print I'm hoping for is a new Lion Knight torso variant ('the Axe Knights') as the town guards.

I am hoping for this as well, especially with the "Broken Axes Inn", but since the double axe crest did not get updated in 10305 (unlikely most of the other crests that got a facelift), I am not sure how likely this is.  I'd also be interested to see the black knights make a return, but since their plume didn't come back for Majisto's workshop and we've recently had the much-loved Kingdoms green dragon knights, I'm not sure how likely that is either.

[DonQuixote]

5 hours ago, Roebuck said:

Other than the rumoured price per part ratio it should be no problem for Lego to pull this of! I draw the baseline from the prelim, If they have them numbers from that then fine, less is underwhelming and would not mind more
After all if we combine the previous 2 set:

We get 14 minifigs, 10 printet animals and 2264 parts, so they can replace a couple of minifigs with animals and add 1000 parts and Bob's your uncle. Come on Lego you can do it 

This looks so good! What a pitty I was in my dark ages back then. 

[Roebuck]

The London toy fair starts tomorrow, but I assume the change we get some info about this set there is slim to none?!

[RichardGoring]

4 hours ago, Roebuck said:

The London toy fair starts tomorrow, but I assume the change we get some info about this set there is slim to none?!

They don't normally have D2Cs at the toy fairs, do they?

[Mopasali]

6 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

They don't normally have D2Cs at the toy fairs, do they?

Are we sure MTS is DtC?  El Dorado, also an Icons and a remake, is available at Target in the US.  Even if MTS is DtC for a few months, I gather this fair has information for releases later in the year.  We've also had several leaks of MTS (even after the survey), and leaks are very rare with DtC.

[RichardGoring]

26 minutes ago, Mopasali said:

Are we sure MTS is DtC?  El Dorado, also an Icons and a remake, is available at Target in the US.  Even if MTS is DtC for a few months, I gather this fair has information for releases later in the year.  We've also had several leaks of MTS (even after the survey), and leaks are very rare with DtC.

No, I don't think so. I assumed there, sorry. I'd forgotten that Eldorado Fortress was generally available, and thinking about LKC. If so, there's a possibility.

[Mopasali]

53 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

No, I don't think so. I assumed there, sorry. I'd forgotten that Eldorado Fortress was generally available, and thinking about LKC. If so, there's a possibility.

Ah, okay.  I'm still learning the differences in how Lego markets sets, and where information from particular leakers comes from. 

I've seen in other forums that MTS is likely DtC and future leaks are unlikely, but wasn't sure where it came from.  El Dorado was certainly relatively locked down in terms of leaks, which makes it seem like DtC.  MtS has an odd release date, two days after Snow White, so maybe that tells us something about whether one or the other are DtC or limited to retailers.