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  On 5/6/2023 at 11:53 AM, R0Sch said:

Sorry, you are right. 3x 7L flip-flop in green included.
Here's the front axle fix as @Jundis pointed out, in fact the whole front got extended 1 module to fit the cabin properly.
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No problem. Glad that I'm not going insane just yet. :)

Good work with the reconstruction btw. Looks great!

  On 5/6/2023 at 11:53 AM, R0Sch said:

Sorry, you are right. 3x 7L flip-flop in green included.
Here's the front axle fix as @Jundis pointed out, in fact the whole front got extended 1 module to fit the cabin properly.

Looking great, and great effort, I would have given up almost instantly..

I can now confirm from your model that there is 6 cranks so therefore it does indeed have 6 cylinders like the real tractor (only 3 were ever shown in the photos of this set)

I wonder if it comes with any of the new 3x5 alternating hole beams..  I see the new pin connectors that originally came in the small dump truck (42147) as well as 3x19L, 15L,11L,and 7L alternating hole beams :) 

#7 and #8 panels in both black and green, and a lot of green re-colours as well as quite a few gears in this set.

Oh and also the 98989 returns in black! 

  On 5/6/2023 at 6:56 PM, Maaboo35 said:

Probably should come as no surprise at this juncture, but OH MY UNDERWEAR the colour matching of the stickers, as shown in this image, SUX!

Ouch :sad:

Can please somebody with more knowledge about printing tell me, why TLG don't Prinz on transparent foil? 

  On 5/6/2023 at 8:55 PM, Jundis said:

Ouch :sad:

Can please somebody with more knowledge about printing tell me, why TLG don't Prinz on transparent foil? 

That would create other issues, such as dust or air bubbles shown through the clear sticker.

  On 5/6/2023 at 6:56 PM, Maaboo35 said:

Probably should come as no surprise at this juncture, but OH MY UNDERWEAR the colour matching of the stickers, as shown in this image, SUX!

To me it sucks even more that some connectors are not available in green, and hence they replaced them with black, creating random color discontinuities like on the doors and the door hinges. I wonder what is happening at the top of the door where a 2L green connector plus a 1L black beam? is used instead of a 3L green connector? Or is that black piece not a 1L beam?

  On 5/6/2023 at 8:55 PM, Jundis said:

Ouch :sad:

Can please somebody with more knowledge about printing tell me, why TLG don't Prinz on transparent foil? 

 

  On 5/6/2023 at 9:02 PM, mpj said:

That would create other issues, such as dust or air bubbles shown through the clear sticker.

Yeah, the very few clear stickers I've used all look worse than the colour matching issue, no matter how clean the brick before you apply it, the exposed glue of the sticker seems to act like an electrostatic magnet to any microscopic particle in the air then magnifies it!

Edited by allanp

  On 5/6/2023 at 6:56 PM, Maaboo35 said:

Probably should come as no surprise at this juncture, but OH MY UNDERWEAR the colour matching of the stickers, as shown in this image, SUX!

After quickly checking the small John Deere tractor I would say the shade of green on the stickers should be more or less ok, I don't think TLG updated anything between these two models just to make it worse. What you see on this photo is more the result of a light source being reflected in a different way on the stickered surfaces and on the panels/beams themselves.  

  On 5/7/2023 at 1:44 AM, gyenesvi said:

 I wonder what is happening at the top of the door where a 2L green connector plus a 1L black beam? is used instead of a 3L green connector? Or is that black piece not a 1L beam?

It's a pin with pin hole (15100) not a 1L beam, to enable opening doors. The split line should be right below the 2x3 tile.

I found some additional images on 2ttoys.nl showing how far the banana-craws can close and the front axle pivots.
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LEGO_42157_John_Deere_948L-II_houttransp
LEGO_42157_John_Deere_948L-II_houttransp
 

Edited by R0Sch

  On 5/7/2023 at 7:51 AM, R0Sch said:

It's a pin with pin hole (15100) not a 1L beam, to enable opening doors. The split line should be right below the 2x3 tile.

Oh, right, that was my next guess, there's a beam behind it that it connects to. It's a pity that they often decide not to produce that part in many basic colors, it is so ubiquitous, used all over the place, and often causes color inconsistencies. Not sure why they have to be cheap about that one (for example, they did not have them in orange for long, the Ford Raptor did not have them, but finally they got reintroduced).

  On 5/7/2023 at 1:01 PM, gyenesvi said:

Not sure why they have to be cheap about that one (for example, they did not have them in orange for long, the Ford Raptor did not have them, but finally they got reintroduced).

Maybe because it's one of the problematic parts with color matching issues. I think it's made of a softer plastic too. It was one of the main culprits in the Sián.

  On 5/8/2023 at 4:51 AM, R0Sch said:

Maybe because it's one of the problematic parts with color matching issues. I think it's made of a softer plastic too. It was one of the main culprits in the Sián.

So you mean instead of having slight shade variations, they choose to create complete color inconsistencies? I don't think it has to do anything with it. Rather they just try to save production of that part in certain colors, making models look even more patchy than it already is necessary due to technic parts' shapes.

  On 5/8/2023 at 6:51 AM, gyenesvi said:

So you mean instead of having slight shade variations, they choose to create complete color inconsistencies? I don't think it has to do anything with it.

 It is often better to make deliberately different colour rather than have slight shade difference.

Still it looks bad with only one piece in black.

Because it simply doesn't need one! No manual pneumatic set needs one!

I have 8462, and it has 2 air tanks... but they are useless. You have to pump way more before anything moves, because the room for compressed air is way bigger.

Without an airtank you have to pump like 2-3 times for a fully extended or retracted cylinder, depending on the load and such...

Lego got rid of airtanks not because to annoy people, but rather because they are useless in most cases.

Edited by Polarlicht

  On 5/13/2023 at 4:15 AM, Polarlicht said:

Because it simply doesn't need one! No manual pneumatic set needs one!

I have 8462, and it has 2 air tanks... but they are useless. You have to pump way more before anything moves, because the room for compressed air is way bigger.

Without an airtank you have to pump like 2-3 times for a fully extended or retracted cylinder, depending on the load and such...

Lego got rid of airtanks not because to annoy people, but rather because they are useless in most cases.

Agreed. The only real "use" for an airtank is to try to make up for a lack of compressed air, but it's always better to address the underlying problem by making your air supply bigger and better.

  On 5/13/2023 at 4:15 AM, Polarlicht said:

No manual pneumatic set needs one (: air tank)!

I disagree:
I rate the air tank useful at models where you would trigger more than one pneumatic at the same time. Scooping with the 8459 / 8464 / 8439 front loader is probably the best example. Other would be pneumatic excavators. I have upgraded the Volvo with a single cylinder compressor plus tank. This performs better that the comporesor-only setup of the 42080 Harvester.

I agree that two airtanks on the 8462 Tow Truck is too much. One would have been sufficient because the pneumatic functions on that model don't require that much air. Plus they are mostly 'sequential' e.g. without need to operate them at the same time. However, the double tank makes this set a nice parts pack.

In 8462 the air tanks are just aesthetics, they don't serve much of a purpose in terms of practical usefulness. The inclusion of two such an expensive parts where they are not really needed is also a good indicator of the problems inside TLG in the late nineties, just before the company was in big trouble and nearly went bankrupt.

I don't see much use for air tank in 42157 either, and according to Bricklink it has been discontinued in 2016 anyway. That's not to say it couldn't be brought back at some point, but at the moment it's not available in TLG's inventory.

I totally agree that "current" air tank implementation is very lackluster but that is actually reason why I would love to see lego doing something more with it...

So sadly, have to say you are right...:(

  On 5/13/2023 at 8:10 AM, howitzer said:

I don't see much use for air tank in 42157 either, and according to Bricklink it has been discontinued in 2016 anyway. That's not to say it couldn't be brought back at some point, but at the moment it's not available in TLG's inventory.

White air tanks were available from Bricks & Pieces until at least 2019, which is when I ordered some there, according to my administration. IIRC they were only a few € a piece, as opposed to 20€ on BrickLink. Haven't checked recently though.

  On 5/13/2023 at 8:47 AM, astyanax said:

White air tanks were available from Bricks & Pieces until at least 2019, which is when I ordered some there, according to my administration. IIRC they were only a few € a piece, as opposed to 20€ on BrickLink. Haven't checked recently though.

That would probably be some leftover stock being sold away. I doubt they have been produced more recently than 2016 or so.

  On 5/13/2023 at 9:03 AM, howitzer said:

That would probably be some leftover stock being sold away. I doubt they have been produced more recently than 2016 or so.

They were included in some educational sets, and those are on the shelves for a lot longer than normal sets. I remember buying one airtank from B&P for €3 in late 2019. I’m guessing they disappeared when most of the schools were closed in 2020 which is also when B&P was closed for a while.

I always wonder how some people manage to get their hands on sets almost 3 months before release? Judging from review, Lego has to again baby-step the differential assembly and orientation and put additional bricks to prevent incorrect placement.

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