2023 Majisto GWP

[Classic_Spaceman]

2 hours ago, Roebuck said:

Was not the barding and some other parts also 10 years old brought back for the castle last year?

Fair point, but that (or making a new mould) was necessary for the set to have bardings; halberds can be brickbuilt, so that is a less necessary piece to bring back. 🫤

2 hours ago, Roebuck said:

Black Knights moulds from a quick search (so could have made mistakes):

 

All of these besides the dragon plumes and oval shield appeared in the LKC (and the latter is still in production), so recolouring some parts and making a few new prints should be easy to do for the Town Square. Also, the Black Knights used triangle shields too, so the oval one is not 100% necessary. 
 

2 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

Well then it is not Majisto either for me. But I hope the print is at least similar to what the original figure looked like. If they do it right, maybe it could still work out to be Majisto even with a skirt. But we will have to wait and see for that.

If the torso is similar enough to the original, then he would still be faithful even with a printed skirt (robe) piece (which I hope that he has, as I prefer it). 
 

1 hour ago, Sir Dano said:

If they don't have the plumes and helmet they aren't Dragon Masters.

I mostly agree; to truly be Dragon Masters, they need unique helmet and plume pieces (though not necessarily the exact pieces that the originals used). 
 

1 hour ago, JimBaggins said:

It's possible the helmet and plumes could be molded as one dual molded piece, that way they wouldn't need to make 4 different new parts.

Ew. No. Helmets and plumes should be separate, for customisation purposes! They could get around the four part requirement by moulding wings onto the helmet itself, so only the dragon plume needs a new mould. 
 

A thought: We have been assuming that the set will include either Dragon Masters (as the original did) or Lion Knights (because LKC), but what if we get a new faction that appears in the Town Square as well. Maybe Black Knights or crossed-axe Lions? That would still allow LEGO to offset the part cost, but also to give us something in the GWP that we have not already army-built on PAB/BrickLink! 🤔
 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Classic_Spaceman

[Seaber]

Probably a silly question but £100 of points would count to the threshold for this GWP right? I think now is the time to cash in... 

[Black Falcon]

12 minutes ago, Seaber said:

Probably a silly question but £100 of points would count to the threshold for this GWP right? I think now is the time to cash in... 

Yes. They don´t count towards Insider points but they count for GWPs. So makes more sense to use them when there is no 2x Insider points active

[Seaber]

2 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

Yes. They don´t count towards Insider points but they count for GWPs. So makes more sense to use them when there is no 2x Insider points active

Much appreciated! 

[TeriXeri]

If they do bigger things for Dragon Masters at some point, it would need new mould for the horse helmets since horses changed since 2013, not only they got moving rear legs, also the head shape was changed.

Perhaps the 2013 horse helmets could be used, but they don't have the same "dragon" look to it. (despite the 2013 black/red knight figures also being called Dragon Knights)

Original

2013 variant (only ever used for 2 sets)

Edited October 21, 2023 by TeriXeri

[Triceron]

I'd be super happy if they made more horse helmets for the modern horse design.  Here's hoping for the future of Castle

[Aanchir]

22 hours ago, Sir Dano said:

If they don't have the plumes and helmet they aren't Dragon Masters.

Black Knights can get away with it because they had regular plumes in their first 3 years of existence.

I dunno, I think for a set as small as this, I could potentially accept a different helmet type, since only the higher ranking knights in that faction had the fancy plumes and helmets. Same as how I didn't mind several of the Lion Knight guards and archers in that set wearing the kettle helm first introduced in 2000, or the mounted Black Falcon knight from that set wearing the great helm first introduced in 2010.

But for a larger Dragon Knight/Dragon Master set it'd be a different story — there, I'd at least hope to see knight helmets with the same highly ornamented aesthetic and dragon motifs, even if it didn't opt for these exact molds.

[Sir Dano]

And there was a high ranking DM in the set the gwp is based on, so if they're putting Dragon Masters in it, the set needs the plumes.

[Khargeust]

I feel that 3 figures is big for a gwp. Original Majisto's Magical Workshop has only two. Maybe they put two Lions' knights in order to compensate the absence of the rebooted DM ?  

Unless this third one is a skeleton...

Edited October 21, 2023 by Khargeust

[Black Falcon]

9 minutes ago, Khargeust said:

I feel that 3 figures is big for a gwp. Original Majisto's Magical Workshop has only two. Maybe they put two Lions' knights in order to compensate the absence of the rebooted DM ?  

Possible. Could also be a Lion Knight and a Black Falcon Knight. But with the Village having a shield smith, it doesn´t seem that unlikely we get dragon Knights for that set. I doubt for a matching helmet, since I doubt they would do that for a gwp. And I don´t think the Village would use it´s budged to bring something back that basically is only needed for the gwp but not the set itself. 

Also an other thought. The newest Modular building is said to have references to lego themes. I could see them having a knight there - but I would guess that one would be either a Lion Knight or a Black Falcon I think. 

[Triceron]

5 hours ago, Khargeust said:

I feel that 3 figures is big for a gwp. Original Majisto's Magical Workshop has only two. Maybe they put two Lions' knights in order to compensate the absence of the rebooted DM ?  

Unless this third one is a skeleton...

I figure it could still be 2 Dragon Master soldiers with regular helms. A new print wouldn't be out of line.

  I'm also wondering if it might be cross axe guards.  I have a feeling the guards in Market Square will be cross axes, as it seems to contain a spiritual remake of Guarded Inn in the set.

[Roebuck]

There is still one possibility to get the helmet with plumes; CMF budget! The LKC got help from 2 CMF in 2 different series right. However they came before the set I believe, would be strange to get a GWP with it now and a CMF with it in January probably

[Black Falcon]

8 hours ago, Triceron said:

I figure it could still be 2 Dragon Master soldiers with regular helms. A new print wouldn't be out of line.

I actually think that is the most likely version after them just beeing Lion Knights. If it is true that Majisto already gets new prints that would be a third new printed part for them in this set - so I would expect them to have only a torso printed but plain legs if they are really coming back.

3 hours ago, Roebuck said:

There is still one possibility to get the helmet with plumes; CMF budget! The LKC got help from 2 CMF in 2 different series right. However they came before the set I believe, would be strange to get a GWP with it now and a CMF with it in January probably

Troubadour was in January 2022 but the Knight of the Yellow Castle actually was in September of the same year - so after the Lion Knights Castle came out. So while I first thought it would be kinda unlikely, since they are to close to each other, I would say that is the most likely chance we have to get them. But on the other side it still seems kinda unlikey to me that we are getting the same figure of the CMF as we are getting in the GWP - so it would have to be an other Knight using the helmet IMO.

[Classic_Spaceman]

19 hours ago, Triceron said:

I'm also wondering if it might be cross axe guards.  I have a feeling the guards in Market Square will be cross axes, as it seems to contain a spiritual remake of Guarded Inn in the set.

My guesses for the knights (if they are not just reuses of existing Minifigs) are either Black Knights or crossed-axe Lions. Either one would be doable with minimal new printing, and both can fit into the MTS quite easily. 
 

14 hours ago, Roebuck said:

There is still one possibility to get the helmet with plumes; CMF budget! The LKC got help from 2 CMF in 2 different series right. 

Good idea - A Dragon Masters knight would also make for a great CMF! 
 

[Aanchir]

You know, aside from all the minifig talk, it's also worth keeping in mind that Majisto's Magical Workshop originally used the "dragon plume" pieces for ornamentation on its windowsill, rather than on the Dragon Knight helmet. So I wonder whether the final set will have a new part to serve that purpose, or if not, what it will have in their place.

Certainly there are plenty of parts with dragon motifs in Ninjago, including part 36017 which we have seen used for ornamentation on buildings in the past. It lacks the full-body detail of the original dragon plume, but could certainly serve a similar decorative purpose.

But on that note, if LEGO did decide to make a new helmet piece and/or accessory piece with a dragon motif, there's a very real possibility they could come up with uses for it in Ninjago as well as Castle. After all, a lot of Ninjago dragons tend to resemble traditional western dragons more closely than traditional Chinese or Japanese dragons anyhow, and it's also far from unheard of for Ninjago villains to share headgear/helmet pieces with other themes.

Of course, LEGO could also opt to replace the molded dragon ornaments on the workshop itself with a different sort of decoration, such as printed Dragon Knight or Black Knight shields, which I'm sure would also be appreciated in their own right! Lots of possibilities for them to choose from.

I'm very eager to see what the finished set looks like in any case, since Majisto's Magical Workshop was a set I loved as a kid, and I'm sure a modern version will be plenty impressive in terms of structure and building techniques regardless of what specific approach it takes for those finer details!

[Westbrick]

Hello! First time posting, but I’m a long-time lurker. Was wondering if anyone else had spotted the dragon plume in the latest post on Lego’s Instagram account?

[zoth33]

31 minutes ago, Westbrick said:

Hello! First time posting, but I’m a long-time lurker. Was wondering if anyone else had spotted the dragon plume in the latest post on Lego’s Instagram account?

Nice I hope that means something about dragon masters but until we see pics or someone lets a leak out we won't know for sure.  

[Khargeust]

45 minutes ago, Westbrick said:

Hello! First time posting, but I’m a long-time lurker. Was wondering if anyone else had spotted the dragon plume in the latest post on Lego’s Instagram account?

Is this on a video ? I can't find it.

[Sir Dano]

It's also on their twitter:

What did they mean by putting this so prominently in the video?

Could I be wrong? Do I dare get my hopes up? Probably not, it'll just lead to disappointment...

Edited October 23, 2023 by Sir Dano

[Westbrick]

Yes

2 minutes ago, Khargeust said:

Is this on a video ? I can't find it.

Yes, the one posted today (currently 9 hours ago!) - the one with a cover image of a blue door. As the camera moves into the 2nd room, the dragon plume gets put in front of the mini yellow castle.

[Black Falcon]

I wouldn´t put to much into this. I mean, it basically is just the only matching piece that works for that castle as a dragon.

[karrit]

And Majisto is in the back waving his wand over the castle.  Can't wait to see what the set will look like.  I still have an unopened copy of the original Workshop although the box got crushed when I moved.  I also have a built one.

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by karrit

[Triceron]

Great to see them dropping the nod to it.  Still gives hope that they may bring the piece back

 

Also Brick Clicker dropped a new vid reaffirming 18-19th release date, with it appearing again on the 24th-27th for Black Friday.  Both are VIP weekends, and will be doubled up with Winter Stall GWP.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Triceron

[dvw2]

haha, Fabuland t-shirt sighting in the couch scene right after leaving the castle in the kitchen.

[Retrocity]

It also looks like the woman is wearing the Dragon Masters cape.  I doubt we'd get a cape and plumes in a GWP, but there's definitely some foreshadowing in the video.