[OFFICIAL] 10320 Eldorado Fortress - Retiring SOON!

[Horation]

35 minutes ago, Rogue Redcoat said:

Before someone joins the banned outlaws I think that's a great idea 

But I like wolfpack, dark forest AND forestmen, what if I'm trying to join their ranks?

Allright, I do hope that F1stzz gets the professional helper he mentioned (I'll go back to ignoring him, and I'll be sure to login right away so I don't accidentally see his [redacted])

Edited September 10, 2023 by Horation
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[Lion King]

1 hour ago, Horation said:

But I like wolfpack, dark forest AND forestmen, what if I'm trying to join their ranks?

Allright, I do hope that F1stzz gets the professional helper he mentioned (I'll go back to ignoring him, and I'll be sure to login right away so I don't accidentally see his [redacted])

You now there is Ignore User last you can not see undesired users’ posts, quotes, even messages?

[F1stzz]

2 hours ago, Lion King said:

You now there is Ignore User last you can not see undesired users’ posts, quotes, even messages?

He does know, trust me. This guy has promised to put me in ignore & failed to stick to it literally 6 times at this point (he even gives it away here by saying "will go back to ignoring"). He's once even jumped straight into my DMs to try and troll me  I guess some kitties just can't live a life without bothering the dawgs, lol  I rly hope this time dude keeps his word finally, cuz God knows I'm already tired of this circus, jeez 

[CvS]

22 hours ago, Horation said:

But none of them called it a defect, they almost always called it a choice they didn't like. Unfortunately, your are not the ultimate purveyor of the truth, so you can't just unilaterally declare that something is atrocious*

You are not god, nor do you know everything, nor do I, case is closed.

*(even if many others agree with you, since there as many who don't care and even more who might actually like them, don't forget the principle of the loud minority, since I hope you do realise that there were many people complaining about Nixon's job as US president in 1972, didn't stop him and his silent majority from winning in a landslide, nor is it going to stop the silent majority from buying this set en masse without caring for your problems with it)

At least we can all agree the black docks were a great idea right? Oh you don't like those? It's a shame you can't order black parts on the same website that you ordered the set on...oh wait you can, didn't stop you from claiming you couldn't...

...and the ladders (#6020), why are they black instead of brown??
Would they have been made out of wood, or metal?

[Aanchir]

1 hour ago, CvS said:

...and the ladders (#6020), why are they black instead of brown??
Would they have been made out of wood, or metal? 

I interpreted them as metal, mainly because the use of black clips to attach them to the walls remind me of metal bolts or hangers of some kind. But I suppose they could also be wood like the dock, or assembled from multiple materials.

[TheCosmicTravelers]

I recently built this set and here are a few thoughts and comparisons with the original 6276.  While some major improvements have been made, some new issues have also unfortunately been introduced.

I like the modular system with its underground chamber/tunnel system although I do wish it was a bit less haphazard. The crane (though a bit too high for minifigs to operate) looks and works a lot better than the extremely basic crane in the original set.  The lowest cannon turret also looks far better than the unsightly exposed cannon in the original set.

Like many, I dislike how the remake truncated the governor’s office and upper tower.  Fortunately, Trikus has released free instructions for upgrading this section on Rebrickable, although I think the crenellations at the rear of the governor’s office are too low (this was an issue with the original set as well) and the front window is now set too high in the MOC (luckily, these are both easy enough to change).

There is now an unsightly gap in the walls at the front right corner of the fortress.  There was an opening here in the original set as well but there the dock steps directly led to the crane tower with its columns and arches framing the entrance into the fortress.  This arrangement looks far better than the remake, which now just has an awkward gap at the corner of the walls (the crane tower has been moved back a bit so that it no longer stands directly at the corner).

The regular openings in the walls have also been modified from inverted teardrops to slits.  These openings are now unfortunately too small/narrow for placing cannons (even smaller custom-built ones) for a more armed fortress.

The included sloop is a good recreation of 6277’s merchant ship, but I think LEGO missed an opportunity by not including a merchant sailor minifig like in 6277 as this ship does not otherwise really look like a bluecoat vessel decoration-wise.  I do not understand the alterations made to the sail arrangement as 6277’s sail rig made sense as a topsail sloop (large fore-and-aft mainsail with a smaller, higher square topsail).  Here the fore-and-aft sail has been shrunken and elevated to become a spanker sail directly behind the square topsail.  Besides negating crew access to the fore-and-aft sail’s booms without going aloft (an otherwise key advantage crew-wise for this type of sail versus square sails), the sail arrangement now looks off proportionally, being both too high and small for the new ship.

[jodawill]

I just checked whether the minifigures, sails, and flag are still marked as IP elements. They're not! So we should see them on PAB soon.

[lomis]

23 minutes ago, jodawill said:

I just checked whether the minifigures, sails, and flag are still marked as IP elements. They're not! So we should see them on PAB soon.

That is excellent news.
Thanks for sharing!

I've been checking PaB at least once a week since the set's release.
I guess it's time to up the frequency! 

[F1stzz]

1 hour ago, jodawill said:

So we should see them on PAB soon.

It'd be truly awesome for the market if that's gonna be the case, keeping fingers crossed🤞🤞

[Arjo]

Great news indeed… I was checking everyday until recently… might have to resume:)

[dilligan]

On 9/11/2023 at 11:28 AM, TheCosmicTravelers said:

I think LEGO missed an opportunity by not including a merchant sailor minifig like in 6277 as this ship does not otherwise really look like a bluecoat vessel decoration-wise. 

Thats a good point. I am going to put together my own merchant sailor for the ship and I'm trying to work out what torso part to use. I have been considering ones from mainly Harry Potter sets like Newt Scamander (dim034 or hp165), Horace Slughorn (hp171 or hp230), Ron weasley (hp185) or even this little guy from LotR (lor111). Any thoughts or suggestions?

[thewatchman]

2 hours ago, dilligan said:

Thats a good point. I am going to put together my own merchant sailor for the ship and I'm trying to work out what torso part to use. I have been considering ones from mainly Harry Potter sets like Newt Scamander (dim034 or hp165), Horace Slughorn (hp171 or hp230), Ron weasley (hp185) or even this little guy from LotR (lor111). Any thoughts or suggestions?

The Jurassic world “Owen Grady vest” minifigure is very close, aside the flesh neck.

 That said on second check the Harry Potter Argus finch in brown coat is pretty much perfect.

Edited September 14, 2023 by thewatchman
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[Arjo]

Happy Friday! Check out this link: 

the quoted prices aren’t cheap but there are a few obvious pieces one either has or does not need to bring the cost down. It might tempt me into my first BL order ever… though I still have to acquire 10320 first!

[dilligan]

17 hours ago, thewatchman said:

The Jurassic world “Owen Grady vest” minifigure is very close, aside the flesh neck.

 That said on second check the Harry Potter Argus finch in brown coat is pretty much perfect.

Oh yeah, can't have flesh neck. Theres been a few I've discounted cause of that.
Argus Filch is great, I hadn't see that one. Thanks for the tip.

[kchan98]

On 9/13/2023 at 12:00 PM, jodawill said:

I just checked whether the minifigures, sails, and flag are still marked as IP elements. They're not! So we should see them on PAB soon.

Can't wait...the castle one kept on selling out but there is lots of stock now. Hope it's the same for the pirate theme MFs!

[dilligan]

On 9/15/2023 at 12:17 AM, thewatchman said:

The Jurassic world “Owen Grady vest” minifigure is very close, aside the flesh neck.

 That said on second check the Harry Potter Argus finch in brown coat is pretty much perfect.

All the bits finally arrived. My new merchant sailor.

[Arjo]

Looking good indeed!

[Yperio_Bricks]

Yep looks great Next year we'll get a new Filch minfig. Maybe that one will be useful too!

[thewatchman]

4 hours ago, dilligan said:

All the bits finally arrived. My new merchant sailor.

I’d swap the arms for white to give a brown vest effect and fix the leg colour to single colour, and perfect!

[Arjo]

Do you dip minifigs in very hot water before pulling arms out? Been wondering for a while as my only attempt partly broke an arm and I have not dared try again:(

[dilligan]

36 minutes ago, Arjo said:

Do you dip minifigs in very hot water before pulling arms out? Been wondering for a while as my only attempt partly broke an arm and I have not dared try again:(

The last time I tried, I split the torso, so won't do it again.

 

1 hour ago, thewatchman said:

I’d swap the arms for white to give a brown vest effect and fix the leg colour to single colour, and perfect!

The blue or grey legs would make him much closer to the original, but worried about breaking something, so won't risk swapping the arms.

[Arjo]

Guess i’m not the only one not in the secrets of the gods (how to safely swap minifig limbs)…

[thewatchman]

1 hour ago, Arjo said:

Guess i’m not the only one not in the secrets of the gods (how to safely swap minifig limbs)…

Haha iv been pretty fortunate, just make sure not to “lever” the arm against the socket. Fortune favours the brave.

[Yperio_Bricks]

While you are at it you can also replace the hands and head with some flash colored pieces!

[thewatchman]

7 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

While you are at it you can also replace the hands and head with some flash colored pieces!

Absolutely heresy.

 Classic pirates 100% need to be yellows.