[TC25] 42043 Mercedes-Benz Arocs 3245

[Celeri]

On 7/30/2023 at 5:20 AM, 2GodBDGlory said:

I spent a while this evening breaking up the Stud.io model into submodels and then steps within the submodels, so I think it should be more user-friendly now? Some of the steps do have a lot of pieces in them, but I can't say I feel like putting any more time into breaking them up, so hopefully what I have is workable?

Anyways, if any of you want to take a look at the model (In the same Bricksafe folder linked above) and let me know how the steps look, I'd appreciate some feedback while I learn the program! (I definitely see why it would have been easier to do this while I built it!)

Since I have some experience in instruction making, what I can say is that this is a good start, but it clearly needs some more work.

To me, the first thing would be to make sure that all your submodels can really stack one after the other without having to remove any parts. For example, on the step where you attach the bed to the chassis: the that attaches the submodel cannot be installed on the axle in one single shot, so some extra steps need to be taken for this.

Once you are sure of the "modular" aspect of your build is OK, then indeed you should make "lighter" steps within submodels, because many of them are too confusing, even for an experienced Technic builder. As an example, you can consider your Step #2: I sincerly think that 90% of the users would just abandon the build right here. And for the other ones, then I think they definitely will drop out at step #4. Too much parts at once, lack of visibility, and overall diffulty to guess what goes where and in which order.

Anyway, thanks a lot for sharing your IO file, there is a very strong potential for a very good MOC here! Feel free to reach out if you need help.

Edited August 9, 2023 by Celeri

[2GodBDGlory]

16 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

@2GodBDGlory I noticed in the entry topic that your entry does not have a picture of the original model, while the rules mandate it. Just thought I'd let you know..

Ooh, thanks for pointing that out! I guess that's what I get for posting before the guidelines come out ;)

 

15 hours ago, Celeri said:

Since I have some experience in instruction making, what I can say is that this is a good start, but it clearly needs some more work.

To me, the first thing would be to make sure that all your submodels can really stack one after the other without having to remove any parts. For example, on the step where you attach the bed to the chassis: the that attaches the submodel cannot be installed on the axle in one single shot, so some extra steps need to be taken for this.

Once you are sure of the "modular" aspect of your build is OK, then indeed you should make "lighter" steps within submodels, because many of them are too confusing, even for an experienced Technic builder. As an example, you can consider your Step #2: I sincerly think that 90% of the users would just abandon the build right here. And for the other ones, then I think they definitely will drop out at step #4. Too much parts at once, lack of visibility, and overall diffulty to guess what goes where and in which order.

Anyway, thanks a lot for sharing your IO file, there is a very strong potential for a very good MOC here! Feel free to reach out if you need help.

Thanks for looking into it for me! Those are definitely good suggestions, but I'm definitely tempted to call it "good enough" and go work on something more fun...

I'll see if I get the motivation, and again, thanks for the input!

[Celeri]

As I said, there is much potential for a very good MOC to be published with your work, and I took the time to tell you all this because I sincerely believe it.

Maybe you could do like many designers on Rebrickable and have your instructions made by someone else? This is quite a classic move, and there are some very talented instructions maker that often collaborate with designers out there.

[2GodBDGlory]

On 8/10/2023 at 10:25 AM, Celeri said:

As I said, there is much potential for a very good MOC to be published with your work, and I took the time to tell you all this because I sincerely believe it.

Maybe you could do like many designers on Rebrickable and have your instructions made by someone else? This is quite a classic move, and there are some very talented instructions maker that often collaborate with designers out there.

Thanks for the encouragement! I have had some offers for help with instructions, so that may be able to work out

[Akassin]

Cool result! If I hadn’t seen it, I wouldn’t believe that 42043 can be made on such a scale, while retaining all the functionality. This time you have outdone yourself. Your creations have always been incredibly technically complex. But now you have a very nice clean design. Especially considering this scale. Well done!