[TC25] 8284 Tractor with windrower

[falconluan]

After months of break, I decided to continue my tractor series MOC creation and then TC25 kicked off. I'm trying to build a tractor in similar scale with my other tractor MOC, which is 56mm front wheel and 75mm back wheel. Of course, the chassis and bodywork will be newly designed.

I chose 8284 and will try to accommodate its features into the smaller scale, not include the clutch function I guess. To have a good reference, I will build a 8284 using my part storage and post comparison photos with the smaller version in this thread, so please keep tuned.

Here is the initial progress: back chassis of 8284

[falconluan]

More progress of the referenced 8284 and initial progress of my smaller version. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by falconluan
Update pic

[Thirdwigg]

Looks good so far. How are you going to route the steering? Are you going to use idler gears just like the original?

[falconluan]

3 hours ago, Thirdwigg said:

Looks good so far. How are you going to route the steering? Are you going to use idler gears just like the original?

No, not exactly like the original, I'm using a blue 20 teeth clutch gear on the engine axle to route the steering. Will put the pics here soon

[falconluan]

Made some more progress. The proportion is a little bit off, will adjust it later.

 

@Thirdwigg Here is a close look at my steering solution, the blue clutch gear drives a 12 teeth gear underneath. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by falconluan

[falconluan]

The shrinking process turned out to be more difficult than I thought since my goal here is to achieve as much as proportional with the original set. Here is some progress, still lots of places need rework.

 

Edited July 18, 2023 by falconluan

[MangaNOID]

Love the 8284 it’s so open and ‘Technic’

But because it’s so open I think that yellow 20T under the seat should be changed to a gray 16T driven by another 16T off the HOG axle, the size of the gear and the colour will ‘hide’ it all better…IMO.

 

[falconluan]

On 7/12/2023 at 8:50 PM, MangaNOID said:

But because it’s so open I think that yellow 20T under the seat should be changed to a gray 16T driven by another 16T off the HOG axle, the size of the gear and the colour will ‘hide’ it all better…IMO.

A good suggestion, thanks! I'll change to a black 20T to hide it a little bit. I'm stick to the 20T and 12T to have the better steering control here. 16T will make the steering feeling more direct to my taste. 

 

A another update. The chassis and hood have been basically rebuilt and now it looks a tiny bit more like the original set.

Edited July 18, 2023 by falconluan

[falconluan]

Rebuilt the central chassis, seat, eng block and now it looks like this.

Also made some progress of the original model, they are at similar stage in the pictures. I'll try to keep the steps of my instruction somewhat aligned with the original model.

[Jundis]

Love your approach to dual-build the models :-)

Altogether, it looks really great! Two little things came into mind:

Have your tried to swap the 16T gear HOG for two half bewel 12T?

The hood looks to narrow in my opinion. Can you make it to 4 stud width? 

[falconluan]

52 minutes ago, Jundis said:

Have your tried to swap the 16T gear HOG for two half bewel 12T?

Good idea! I'll try that. I've also got rid of the 20T to 12T bewel gears on the HOG path to make the HOG axle further front to make the model look more like the original. So @MangaNOID I gave up my attempt of the better steering control feeling in the end. 

 

1 hour ago, Jundis said:

The hood looks to narrow in my opinion. Can you make it to 4 stud width? 

, I'll try that as well. 70% of 5 studs is 3.5, so 3 or 4 are both reasonable value. Using 4 studs wide will also allow more details at the front and currently, I'm not satisfied with the solution of the front end, it is a little bit wobbly.

[Thirdwigg]

Great job, and it's fun to be at about the same stage as you. I also would be interested to know what a 4 stud hood would look like.

Also, I would love to see it with some wheels too!

[falconluan]

Finally almost finished the tractor itself, most of the work has been done in last weekend

Made a funny and stupid move below as removing one set of gear resulted opposite steering control... I must have been too obsessed with its look back then

19 hours ago, falconluan said:

I've also got rid of the 20T to 12T bewel gears on the HOG path to make the HOG axle further front to make the model look more like the original. So @MangaNOID I gave up my attempt of the better steering control feeling in the end. 

With some accessories added, they look like this now(Oh, the red handle on the smaller version is just for decoration): 

 

Widen the hood seems to be an must have upgrade now...

 

12 hours ago, Thirdwigg said:

Also, I would love to see it with some wheels too!

Then you have them 

 

 

Lastly, a new idea came to me when I saw this:

Edited July 18, 2023 by falconluan

[Thirdwigg]

Wait, did you keep the PTO on/off switch!?!

It looks great with the tires.

[falconluan]

53 minutes ago, Thirdwigg said:

Wait, did you keep the PTO on/off switch!?!

No, it's just for the looks, like I mentioned here 

1 hour ago, falconluan said:

With some accessories added, they look like this now(Oh, the red handle on the smaller version is just for decoration): 

 

[MangaNOID]

2 hours ago, falconluan said:

Widen the hood seems to be an must have upgrade now...

Not sure myself. I think the front hood looks great. In fact the whole build looks great well done! 

maybe the roof looks a shy to low on the first pic with the wheels on though. Must be the angle as the second shot looks ok. Something makes that first shot look ‘squashed’ maybe the visor makes the windshield look to squashed??

Actually it might be that black flex axle at the bottom of the windscreen making everything looked squashed? It’s not really on that position above the hood on the original. Just my take though you can’t please everyone 😅

Edited July 18, 2023 by MangaNOID
Added last paragraph

[Thirdwigg]

11 hours ago, falconluan said:

No, it's just for the looks, like I mentioned here 

 

Sorry, I was moving too quick 

[falconluan]

On 7/18/2023 at 9:43 PM, Thirdwigg said:

Sorry, I was moving too quick 

@Thirdwigg Oh, it's okay, it's buried deeply among the pics

 

@MangaNOID Thanks for your comment, I've modified the cockpit slightly, how do you think of it now?

 

Also, I tried to widen the hood, it may look like this:

 

Still need to make it more sturdy...

[falconluan]

Finalized the tractor now, thanks again @Jundis for your suggestion about the 4L wide hood, I think it looks much better than the previous version

 

Now moved to the windrower 

Any suggestion is welcome!

[Thirdwigg]

Great job! They look great together too.

[falconluan]

6 minutes ago, Thirdwigg said:

Great job! They look great together too.

Thank you and please keep up your good work as well! 

[MangaNOID]

27 minutes ago, falconluan said:

Any suggestion is welcome!

Don't change anything...

[Jundis]

Oh my what a beauty! This is my favorite entry so far in this contest

Okay here comes nippicking on the highest level:

- one additional liftarm in the middle of the front would make the model more balanced and also still capture the look of the original, I think

- swapping the yellow half bushes for LBG ones in the fake engine

Edited July 21, 2023 by Jundis

[1gor]

It is very nice shrinking model.

[falconluan]

Thank you guys for all the kind words! 

 

@MangaNOIDThanks and this is an easy suggestion to follow! 

On 7/21/2023 at 9:26 AM, MangaNOID said:

Don't change anything...

 

On 7/21/2023 at 2:14 PM, Jundis said:

Okay here comes nippicking on the highest level:

@Jundis Applied both of your advises and it now looks like this, thank you again

 

Spent a lot of time during the weekend for the instructions, now the tractor has been built.