Anton Gray Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Nope, Glatorian head. Look at the left side of the mask, it has the plus rod on the side. Plus, new mold of Iggy, I'm looking at my old mask right now. The back end is different and maybe the front too. The mouth part doesn't jut out as far because it doesn't need a plus rod, because the new mold has a plus rod on the top. Also, there is a straight hordika neck in the picture. Its a Glatorian head and new mold, everything is fine. Mata Nui is not ruined.
Refia Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Well, even if it is a new mold, it's practically identical to the 2008 Ignika and that's the most important thing. I can live with a plusrod on a different place.
Brickthing Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Well, even if it is a new mold, it's practically identical to the 2008 Ignika and that's the most important thing. I can live with a plusrod on a different place. Still, I'd prefer a new head to a new mold, otherwise the new gold Ignika won't fit on Matoro. :(
Bfahome Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 For everyone who is worrying about how bad the Iggy looks with a Glatorian head, Mata Nui's mask is a new mold, made to fit a regular Glatorian head. Look at the back of the mask, last year's had two swooshes to cover the metru head, but this time around it cut short, because he has a normal Glatorian head. The plus rod is on the top, stop worrying. … wait, how do you know the plus rod is on top? O_o
Strakk Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Where is it from as in what source did the image come from, a catalogue, a magazine, a secret transmission, an alien broadcast etc.~iLego94 I think it is from a catalogue.
Bundalings Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 For everyone who is worrying about how bad the Iggy looks with a Glatorian head, Mata Nui's mask is a new mold, made to fit a regular Glatorian head. Look at the back of the mask, last year's had two swooshes to cover the metru head, but this time around it cut short, because he has a normal Glatorian head. The plus rod is on the top, stop worrying. Could be the angle, but now that I look closely I'm inclined to agree. ~Bunda
Anton Gray Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 … wait, how do you know the plus rod is on top? O_o Because it uses a regular Glatorian head, and all Glatorian masks have plus rods on the top. Also, the mouth does not stick out as far, because it does not need to have a plus rod in it. The top of the head is flatter as well, because it is connected to the top of the Glatorian head. Having a plus rod on the top is the only way it would work. If it was on the mouth, then it would have a huge gap between the eyes.
Wrinkledlion X Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 I just compared it with my Ignika, and it looks exactly the same.
Matsuoka Nui Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 I just compared it with my Ignika, and it looks exactly the same. Sounds like that the Ignika may be just exactly like it was in 2008, just recolored for 2009 (BTW, someone posted on BZPower a fake version of a Gold Ignika which was just spray painted but it was later closed after a few days or so...) Who ever created that awesome avatar of the Gold Ignika a few pages back, I'd like a copy of that please...(matches my username here!!! ) Toa Mata Nui
Anton Gray Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 I just compared it with my Ignika, and it looks exactly the same. Gunnar, try looking at it again. Tilt it at the exact same angle, and you can see that the back of the mask is different. The old mask tilts up and has the two swooshes, while the new mask does not curve up as much and has a shorter back. Also, look at the mouth, the sides on the new mask look shorter on the new mask. It looks nearly identical, but there are some changes to it.
Bfahome Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Because it uses a regular Glatorian head, and all Glatorian masks have plus rods on the top. Also, the mouth does not stick out as far, because it does not need to have a plus rod in it. The top of the head is flatter as well, because it is connected to the top of the Glatorian head. Having a plus rod on the top is the only way it would work. If it was on the mouth, then it would have a huge gap between the eyes. How do you know it's going to use that head? It could be different. Also, it's possible to flip the head around. Also, it's a possible prototype in a magazine. Also, I don't think LEGO would make a mask exactly identical to another with the exception of the connection point. Lhikan's Hau was completely different. Also Does anyone know if Raanu has keetorange hands? Yellow.
Bundalings Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Wait wait wait, Raanu's feet are Keetorange. Why would his hands be yellow? ~Bunda
Bfahome Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 Wait wait wait, Raanu's feet are Keetorange. Why would his hands be yellow?~Bunda waaht I was told there would be yellow. ._.
Wrinkledlion X Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 Am I not thorough enough for you? It looks identical, as I've said.
Bundalings Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 No, it's all Keetorange. Zesk is sooooooo cute. <3 ~Bunda
Anton Gray Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) While these pictures prove its a new mold, I have no idea what a black socket connector is doing back there. There's no black socket connector in the new picture, so the magazine might have been an old prototype, considering the Zamor launcher on his shoulder. But, if you look at the magazine, the mask has two rods on the inside roof. The back is also clean cut as opposed to the two swooshes. And sorry Gunnar, I seemed to have misunderstood your post. Edit: Replaced toaofprotodermis's picture with a new one from TAKANUI89's brickshelf that better shows of the inside, plus it's less "grainy". Edited January 12, 2009 by Anton Gray
InnerRayg Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 That's not proof Anton, it's just a grainy photo you took.
JINZONINGEN73 Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 yayQUOTE (ShaddowCroc @ Jan 11 2009, 08:01 AM) *Oh yeah, it seems that '09 joints don't break: http://www.bzpower.com/forum/index.php?sho...307735&st=0 Doubt it. May be stronger, yes, but it's still... something. >_> ~Bunda Republic Commando SevPost Jan 9 2009, 09:55 PM Sorry to burst your bubble, but my Gresh's arm snapped. All I did was take him apart, and put him back together. Sev ... It broke at the top. Kojolpost Jan 9 2009, 10:42 PM I know. Of all the 2009 parts I have, exactly one has a damage point, Metus' shoulder. Kanohi Wearerpost Jan 10 2009, 07:35 AM Good for you, but after some serious MOCing I have a few cracked parts. But I will admit, they do feel a bit stronger. Twilight Titan Lordpost Jan 10 2009, 09:21 AM gues what, none ov my pieces broke exept one metalic leg. Metallic leg? Toa Nidhiki05post Jan 10 2009, 12:37 PM I only cracked my Vorox hand after I took it apart about 100 times, and that is my ONLY cracked piece, so yes, the quality is much better. -TN05 SonicBOOM XSpost Jan 10 2009, 11:54 PM Cool, but I think my Skrall has a small crack, but I don't know. Mesonak1110post Jan 11 2009, 03:42 AM Yeah, I so wish I was you. My Metus's hand piece has already cracked big time. Kanohi Wearerpost Jan 3 2009, 05:38 PM I have done much MOCing and to my surprise, only one has broken (one of Skrall's red leg sockets). Well, while hopeful, I was really hoping on not seeing any of the stuff described. I hope this isn't a law of averages kind of thing, where like each poster that speaks up = 10,000 people or something. Also, LOL @ this kid still having a sig asking people to vote for a moc I made in 2005. X D http://www.bzpower.com/forum/index.php?s=&...t&p=6265240
Anton Gray Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I don't take credit for the photo, I believe Vertea took the top one and I found the other one on toaofprotodermis's brickshelf. I was simply using it for any one who didn't have an Ignika and couldn't see that there were no bars on the inside. I understand its not hard evidence, I'm not holding the new Ignika in my hands, proof might have been too strong a word. But just by looking at the magazine photos, and the new one, its easy to come to the conclusion that its a new mold. I was just doing the hard work to find the evidence so other people didn't have to search it themselves. Also, a new point, if Lego was using the old version of the Ignika for this year, why would the mask be different from last year's on the prototype in the magazine? Wouldn't they just throw on a old mask that was painted?
InnerRayg Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I don't take credit for the photo, I believe Vertea took the top one and I found the other one on toaofprotodermis's brickshelf. I was simply using it for any one who didn't have an Ignika and couldn't see that there were no bars on the inside. I understand its not hard evidence, I'm not holding the new Ignika in my hands, proof might have been too strong a word. But just by looking at the magazine photos, and the new one, its easy to come to the conclusion that its a new mold. I was just doing the hard work to find the evidence so other people didn't have to search it themselves.Also, a new point, if Lego was using the old version of the Ignika for this year, why would the mask be different from last year's on the prototype in the magazine? Wouldn't they just throw on a old mask that was painted? Fair enough, but I do own an Ignika and I've found at the right angle I can duplicate the appearance of both the magazine and the ad. As for the mask on the prototype, it's a grainy, pixellated image. At that size it would be hard to tell if his mask was new or not at a good resolution. As is, it's impossible. My personal impression was that it was at least Ignika-like when I saw it, and these images have convinced me it's the same mask.
---Vertea--- Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I don't take credit for the photo, I believe Vertea took the top one and I found the other one on toaofprotodermis's brickshelf. I was simply using it for any one who didn't have an Ignika and couldn't see that there were no bars on the inside. I understand its not hard evidence, I'm not holding the new Ignika in my hands, proof might have been too strong a word. But just by looking at the magazine photos, and the new one, its easy to come to the conclusion that its a new mold. I was just doing the hard work to find the evidence so other people didn't have to search it themselves.Also, a new point, if Lego was using the old version of the Ignika for this year, why would the mask be different from last year's on the prototype in the magazine? Wouldn't they just throw on a old mask that was painted? Actually, They could have easily used the CG model from Creeps from the Deep, since that one looked a tad different from the set. Oh, and the prototype has the hand part so it can connect to the old ignika . We haven't seen Toa MN's mask yet.
Anton Gray Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 Fair enough, but I do own an Ignika and I've found at the right angle I can duplicate the appearance of both the magazine and the ad.As for the mask on the prototype, it's a grainy, pixellated image. At that size it would be hard to tell if his mask was new or not at a good resolution. As is, it's impossible. My personal impression was that it was at least Ignika-like when I saw it, and these images have convinced me it's the same mask. We seem to have come to an impasse. We both have previous opinions about the mask that when we look at the pictures, we see different things. I thought I saw a new Ignika, but I may be mistaken. I thought my evidence was good enough to convince others. But if you think its the good ol' Iggy, then when you look at the new pictures, you still see the old one. Oh well, its impossible to change someone else's opinion on something. We'll just have to see who's right when the time comes.
Antrozek Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 i don't know if this should help...it's only a Sketch that i made some minutes Ago...
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