Lego City 2024

[Classic_Spaceman]

4 hours ago, Lemerbrix said:

first off, I HATE the new box art, the “space” branding is just so “in your face” that it’s hard to focus on the set.

I wonder if that banner will be present across multiple themes/sets, since 2024 is supposed to be the “year of Space”? 🤔

4 hours ago, Lemerbrix said:

Looks like the aliens use a new body, really interested to see how that piece is used in the future!

It just looks like a plant or flower stem piece attached via a 1x1 round with hole, to me. 

4 hours ago, Lemerbrix said:

The rover (fittingly) looks like a rejected mars mission set, and quite futuristic! To me the price will be the make it or break it to me!

Mars Mission was my first thought as well! 

 

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

The classic space logo on the box and big space branding also seems to indicate this might be more than just 1 year tbh, as Stuntz is gone, there's room for other action sets.

Maybe; I certainly hope so!! 

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

 powered by some internal sci-fi tech (maybe even those blue crystals), instead of being covered by solar. (Star Trek uses crystals in it's Warp engines as well, so it fits to think the crystal here could power teh vehicles as well)

Power Miners and Mars Mission both had energy crystals powering their vehicles, and Rock Raiders were mining energy crystals to power the LMS Explorer, so there is precedent. 

 

Also, Dilithium crystals are not actually a power source; they are used to regulate warp cores’ matter-antimatter reaction, similarly to real-world nuclear reactors’ control rods.

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

I like the canopy shape as well, it's a good combination of angled and curved at the same time, and I don't mind that they chose trans-clear this time around (and the new orange as accent color is a decent stand-in for neon orange's hiatus)

It looks more like the new trans-black than trans-clear to me; I hope that it is, since trans-black has a bit of a bluish tint that makes it look less boring than trans-clear, trans-brown, or trans-light blue. 
 

49 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

Personally I like the aliens being non-humanoid.

Agreed; I wonder if this is as big as this species gets, or if we will get adult versions as well (maybe using something like Ursula’s lower body piece?). 
 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Classic_Spaceman

[The Island Chronicles]

2015 space is better. 

[Classic_Spaceman]

2 minutes ago, The Brick Boss said:

2015 space is better. 

2015 was Space Port; this is Space. 
 

[Lion King]

1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

2015 was Space Port; this is Space. 
 

What is a difference tho? 

[Classic_Spaceman]

21 minutes ago, Lion King said:

What is a difference tho? 

Space Port (a term that I am using broadly to include Town’s Launch Command subtheme, the Space Port theme, and the various pre-2024 City space subthemes) is a fairly realistic depiction of space exploration; most technology is either current or already outdated (See post-2011 space shuttles), though 2019 and 2022 dipped into some speculative near-future designs as well.
Space, conversely, is straight up sci-fi; the designs are sometimes inspired by real tech, but the vehicles, ships, bases, etc, are very fanciful and unlike anything that we might have in the near future, if ever. 
 

[El Garfio]

it's something strange
Because it has no relation to the city (unless they released a set with some kind of settlement)
And it's not Space in a scientific perspective (it's a fantasy placed in another planet with aliens and supposed living species)
I see this kind of sets like it should be the sets based on Avatar or if LEGO would get the Alien movie license, but not as city sets

The only positive about being named as city is that they will be included in promotions and discounts (at least in my country, the sales are always related to one or few lines of LEGO sets and city is the one that is ever included in any promotion or discount)

[LCP]

The concept of the 60432 set was revealed.

Command Rover & Crane Loader.

[TeriXeri]

1 hour ago, El Garfio said:

it's something strange
Because it has no relation to the city (unless they released a set with some kind of settlement)
And it's not Space in a scientific perspective (it's a fantasy placed in another planet with aliens and supposed living species)
I see this kind of sets like it should be the sets based on Avatar or if LEGO would get the Alien movie license, but not as city sets

The only positive about being named as city is that they will be included in promotions and discounts (at least in my country, the sales are always related to one or few lines of LEGO sets and city is the one that is ever included in any promotion or discount)

I don't see it as strange, it's just LEGO's way of branding things these days.

Stuntz was basicly it's own thing, but still under City, just like how something like Botanical, Modular Buildings, Model Cars, and other "series" are under Icons.

Now stuntz has ended, and that freed up some already existing "shelf space" , and doing something like Sci-Fi space under City is probably easier to do for LEGO , compared to having to register / trademark something new entirely .

Dreamzzz, Monkie Kid , Ninjago etc, all have seperate trademarks/licenses, basicly they are in-house themes, but "licensed" in-house, it's even in the theme name: 

• NINJAGO®
• LEGO® DREAMZzz™ 
• Monkie Kid™

Also since there's Friends as well, doing Town/City things at the same time, there's also more room for variation, as I doubt LEGO would want City and Friends to be a direct copy, in fact they are clearly moving away from Friends being a "girl version" of City.  There's overlap on many things, even for 2024 , both themes will have space related sets, but they cover different subjects.

Even right now , Castle for example is spread across IDEAS, Icons, Creator, I still consider it part of one cohesive thing despite having different label on the theme. Same goes for how Creator 3-in-1, Friends, and City buildings and vehicles often can fit together just fine, despite being 3 different theme names.

Edited November 21, 2023 by TeriXeri

[Lion King]

1 hour ago, El Garfio said:

it's something strange
Because it has no relation to the city (unless they released a set with some kind of settlement)
And it's not Space in a scientific perspective (it's a fantasy placed in another planet with aliens and supposed living species)
I see this kind of sets like it should be the sets based on Avatar or if LEGO would get the Alien movie license, but not as city sets

The only positive about being named as city is that they will be included in promotions and discounts (at least in my country, the sales are always related to one or few lines of LEGO sets and city is the one that is ever included in any promotion or discount)

I don’t think it’s strange at all.

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Space Port (a term that I am using broadly to include Town’s Launch Command subtheme, the Space Port theme, and the various pre-2024 City space subthemes) is a fairly realistic depiction of space exploration; most technology is either current or already outdated (See post-2011 space shuttles), though 2019 and 2022 dipped into some speculative near-future designs as well.
Space, conversely, is straight up sci-fi; the designs are sometimes inspired by real tech, but the vehicles, ships, bases, etc, are very fanciful and unlike anything that we might have in the near future, if ever. 
 

Ah, i see your point now. 

[Lyichir]

TBH, this version of City Space isn't THAT huge a leap from the previous iterations of it. As we get farther from the end of the shuttle program, and the possibility of a major milestone like a return to the moon or mars still distant, City's space sets have to get more speculative/aspirational to stay interesting and novel. Sure, the discovery of multicellular life elsewhere in the solar system may not be realistic, but it's a fun play scenario for kids to get them excited about astronauts and rovers and rockets and such (much like how crystals/treasure have been used in previous science-based City waves to give them a concrete sort of "goal" for the scientists that can be easily understood by little kids).

[Classic_Spaceman]

1 hour ago, LCP said:

The concept of the 60432 set was revealed.

Command Rover & Crane Loader.

Is this a space set? 
 

15 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

Sure, the discovery of multicellular life elsewhere in the solar system may not be realistic

I am not sure that this is in Earth's solar system, considering the floating rocks in the background, pinkish-purple atmosphere, and large plant in the bottom right corner. 
 

[Lion King]

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

Dreamzzz, Monkie Kid , Ninjago etc, all have seperate trademarks/licenses, basicly they are in-house themes, but "licensed" in-house, it's even in the theme name: 

• NINJAGO®
• LEGO® DREAMZzz™ 
• Monkie Kid™

These names you mentioend are really weird. City has no trademark or copyright symbols. Same way for Friends. DreamZzz is only the thee that has “Lego” name in it. I could understand why Vidiyo had trademark since Lego worked with Universal Music Group (I think).

But I see some weird licensing themes. I don’t see “TM” next to Jurasic World, Avatar, Marvel, Spider-Man, DC. 

Just weird branding to me. 

17 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I am not sure that this is in Earth's solar system, considering the floating rocks in the background, pinkish-purple atmosphere, and large plant in the bottom right corner. 
 

Solar. System 2.0

[LCP]

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Is this a space set? 
 

I am not sure that this is in Earth's solar system, considering the floating rocks in the background, pinkish-purple atmosphere, and large plant in the bottom right corner. 
 

Yep.

[The Island Chronicles]

7 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

2015 was Space Port; this is Space. 
 

Why do you always feel the need to correct someone dude? Its space exploration either way. The official site called all the sets "Space" sets. Like @Lyichir said, its basically a continuation into the narrative. I only think 2015 space was better because 1. I liked the way the sets looked....and 2. It should've stuck to the space port/program thingy it had going on instead of going into alien conquest stuff. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by The Brick Boss

[Classic_Spaceman]

2 hours ago, The Brick Boss said:

Why do you always feel the need to correct someone dude? 

I was not; all that I did was draw a distinction (that I personally see) between the 2015 sets and the upcoming ones. 
 

[El Garfio]

8 hours ago, Lyichir said:

TBH, this version of City Space isn't THAT huge a leap from the previous iterations of it. As we get farther from the end of the shuttle program, and the possibility of a major milestone like a return to the moon or mars still distant, City's space sets have to get more speculative/aspirational to stay interesting and novel. Sure, the discovery of multicellular life elsewhere in the solar system may not be realistic, but it's a fun play scenario for kids to get them excited about astronauts and rovers and rockets and such (much like how crystals/treasure have been used in previous science-based City waves to give them a concrete sort of "goal" for the scientists that can be easily understood by little kids).

You are right but this is not city

Outdoors, even "realistic" space, could be city if you see them by the optics of there are some citizens that go to the forest, explore the seas or even take a shuttle and go to the space

But this kind of space is pure fantasy (the same fantasy that are avatar sets)

8 hours ago, Lion King said:

These names you mentioend are really weird. City has no trademark or copyright symbols. Same way for Friends. DreamZzz is only the thee that has “Lego” name in it. I could understand why Vidiyo had trademark since Lego worked with Universal Music Group (I think).

But I see some weird licensing themes. I don’t see “TM” next to Jurasic World, Avatar, Marvel, Spider-Man, DC. 

Just weird branding to me. 

Lego registered brands like dreamzzz or monkey kid only to avoid the clone brands to use that names 

In the movie brands don't put the TM symbol because if anyone release a copy of that sets is Disney, HBO, Sony, Nintendo,... who is going to clain its license rights 

City and friends are not copyrighted because are so generic words (like my world) that is not able to be registered 

Edited November 22, 2023 by El Garfio

[lightningtiger]

Why do I get the feeling Lego has lost its way ?

The box art screams classic 80s/90s.....but why has it left the real world and gone Sci Fi ?

Maybe just let kids chose if Darth Vader opens a coffee shop or not.

[The Island Chronicles]

3 hours ago, lightningtiger said:

Why do I get the feeling Lego has lost its way ?

The box art screams classic 80s/90s.....but why has it left the real world and gone Sci Fi ?

Maybe just let kids chose if Darth Vader opens a coffee shop or not.

Exactly! 

[TeriXeri]

8 hours ago, lightningtiger said:

Why do I get the feeling Lego has lost its way ?

The box art screams classic 80s/90s.....but why has it left the real world and gone Sci Fi ?

Maybe just let kids chose if Darth Vader opens a coffee shop or not.

Kids can build the sets, recycle the box, hide the instructions, and put it with their other LEGO, nothing will say it's from City beyond Box/instruction coloring.

And I'm sure AFOL put their Modular buildings together, despite the switch from Creator Expert to Icons being different theme names, or IDEAS/Icons Pirates , Creator/IDEAS Vikings, or Icons/Bricklink/Creator Castles, all being different theme names of similar groups of sets.

Edited November 22, 2023 by TeriXeri

[Aanchir]

10 hours ago, El Garfio said:

You are right but this is not city

Outdoors, even "realistic" space, could be city if you see them by the optics of there are some citizens that go to the forest, explore the seas or even take a shuttle and go to the space

But this kind of space is pure fantasy (the same fantasy that are avatar sets)

I mean, it's certainly highly speculative, but I think it's a stretch to compare a set like this to themes with highly intelligent humanoid aliens, advanced bioengineering and "mind-link" technology, suspended animation, and so forth. What we see in this set falls far, far short of that: a rover inspired by the sorts of habitable rovers that space agencies like NASA and JAXA are currently developing, and some craters that house a couple hypothetical alien macroorganisms.

It's not as though LEGO Town and LEGO City have never dabbled in speculative or fanciful subject matter like this, eithre. Just last year, the meteorites from sets 60350 and 60351 both included microorganisms in the form of a printed 1x1 round tile. Both that wave and the 2019 wave of Space sets included models inspired by concepts like NASA's SEV and Lunar Gateway which are in development, but are still years away from coming to fruition. The City Jungle Explorer sets from 2017 included human-sized carnivorous plants. And over 20 years ago, meteorites in the original Arctic sets included a "Space Scorpio" and "Space Spider"!

All in all, this wave strikes me as a a continuation of the "hypothetical near future" sort of subject matter we've already seen in the City theme's 2022, 2019, and arguably even 2015 space exploration sets (after all, no new shuttle/space plane had flown on an orbital mission like the one in 60078 since the end of NASA's space shuttle program). Perhaps once more of the sets are revealed we'll see that theey contain more fanciful far-future subject matter. But the two sets we've seen so far seem to be only a touch more futuristic or speculative than what we've seen in previous City sets.

9 hours ago, lightningtiger said:

Why do I get the feeling Lego has lost its way ?

The box art screams classic 80s/90s.....but why has it left the real world and gone Sci Fi ?

Maybe just let kids chose if Darth Vader opens a coffee shop or not.

Seems a bit premature to start worrying that "Lego has lost its way" based on one City set being less grounded than you'd like. Last I've heard, LEGO City in particular and LEGO in general have been doing just fine financially, regardless of what we as individuals think about specific design decisions they've made in one theme or another. And if it turns out that kids don't care for this wave of Space sets, it's not like designers would be prevented in any way from taking a step back in a more traditional direction for subsequent waves.

[Lion King]

I think City is a good place for space sets. It has several wacky and unrealistic sets. Like…. Do fire helicopters really shoot water? No, that’s unrealistic. Hae you ever seen crazy cars?nah, not really. It’s just 2K Drive sets. Have you seen a guy riding a bathtub-bikes in real life? Eh, probably not - that’s Stuntz subtheme. Do scientists resurrect prehistoric animals in real life? Not at this time, we had Arctic sets in 2018 - it had saber-toothed tiger and woolly mammoth figures and they looked like they were resurrected and full of life. Have you ever seen some crazy crooks stole an ice truck truck? Maybe, it that’s a silly police chase set. 

Freinds sets are quite realistic.

I’m fine with a sci-fi subtheme under the wacky City theme. Other in-house theems (minus Freinds) are quite crazy and wacky, such as Monkie Kid, DreamZzz, Ninjago, and the now-dead Vidiyo.  Lego is well-known for wackiness and weirdness. 

And just let kid’s imagination go wild. 

[TeriXeri]

LEGO already went a wacky direction with those City missions last year , literally has a boat with option to put wheels under it to drive on land, or a glass dome to turn it into a submarine, and also comes with jet engines and tails/wings.

Then the Mars version suggested all sorts of boosters/cannons/grabber arms to tackle a problem to safely land on mars, or stop incoming comets crashing into the ship.

And then the wildlife version was a bit more normal, but still came with parts to turn it into a helicopter car and such.

[Lion King]

59 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

LEGO already went a wacky direction with those City missions last year , literally has a boat with option to put wheels under it to drive on land, or a glass dome to turn it into a submarine, and also comes with jet engines and tails/wings.

Then the Mars version suggested all sorts of boosters/cannons/grabber arms to tackle a problem to safely land on mars, or stop incoming comets crashing into the ship..

Exactly  that’ what I’m saing about the wacky City sets. I think City is fitting for a space subtheme. 

I don’t think it’s Mars. I think it’s otuside our solar system, take a look at art box. There is nothing existing in our solar system.

 

[Classic_Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Lion King said:

I don’t think it’s Mars. I think it’s otuside our solar system, take a look at art box. There is nothing existing in our solar system.

The Missions set was for Mars, but you are right that the 2024 space sets do not appear to be anywhere in Earth’s solar system. 
 

[Aanchir]

4 hours ago, Lion King said:

Friends sets are quite realistic.

I'd say Friends has also played at least a little bit loose with reality over the years. For instance, while it's possible for multiple members of a high school friend group to have student pilot certification (which at least Olivia and Stephanie seem to have had in the previous generation of sets), I don't think it'd be all that common/likely. But I agree with you overall about some of the differences in tone between Friends and City.