LEGO Collectable Minifigures Series 25. Rumors and discussion

[Clone OPatra]

4 hours ago, Lion King said:

Are there any reviews on Series 25 yet?

JB Spielwaren has now put up their video of the figures on YouTube.

33 minutes ago, Mr Maniac said:

EDIT: And for those curious, Brick Fanatics has some photos of Basil the Batlord the Vampire Knight's head and cape! And he's got a moustache again!

Those are just screenshots of JB's reel on Instagram, though that's helpful for people who don't have Instagram of course.

[Roebuck]

From what I have understood the box placement was not consistent with the Marvel series?

I have ordered 4 boxes(!) this time just to get the animals so will see there if they are the same in the different ones, if they are I might try and buy some extra goats in shops if I see any new boxes there..

[Lion King]

I see that there is a 6-pack for CMF Serie 25. It makes me me curious about order two 6 packs.

[Black Falcon]

3 hours ago, Lion King said:

I see that there is a 6-pack for CMF Serie 25. It makes me me curious about order two 6 packs.

The problem I have with those is you might just end up having 6 of them twice ;).

[karrit]

Yes, I ordered 3 6 packs of the Muppets hoping for at least one complete set & ended up with three sets of the same 6 figures.  Marvel I ordered 2 6 packs & got 2 sets of the same 6 figures.  Finally got lucky with series 24 and actually got all 12,  That order was from LEGO.com.  The other two were from Target.

[BrickFit26]

I wonder if they will be selling a box of 12 complete minifigures of the series like Just2good got over in Denmark for the marvel series 2? Apparently these tower boxes of complete 12 are sold in some parts of Europe only. 

[Black Falcon]

59 minutes ago, BrickFit26 said:

I wonder if they will be selling a box of 12 complete minifigures of the series like Just2good got over in Denmark for the marvel series 2? Apparently these tower boxes of complete 12 are sold in some parts of Europe only. 

As far as I know, only in Denmark. And I think the 6 Minifigure boxes also were first tested in Denmark because they were sold elsewhere - so the 12 Minifigure Boxes could be sold elsewhere too. But so far there was no mention of it so, it doesn´t seem like we are getting those - or they will be only avaiable from Lego maybe. 

That beeing said, I kinda wish they would make just a set with all minifigures instead of several boxes - that would first of all prevent packaging faults, where one minifigure is twice and another isn´t there at all and would also save a lot of packaging.

[Clone OPatra]

Sadly even the six packs for the last couple of series haven't been available here in Australia, so there's no option to buy any amount of guaranteed different figures except from Bricklink or other independent sellers who open the packs and sell off the figures.

The fact that the whole boxes also seem to have random placement of figures and have duplicates in a row also make it impossible.

With Vidiyo Series 2, I used some points and bought six from the online store. Since those were packed in smaller boxes and a complete set in each row, I reckon that's how I ended up with six distinct figures. The warehouse worker would've gone to a box and grabbed six from a side. Maybe I just got lucky though and it doesn't reflect other people's experiences.

[Lion King]

3 hours ago, karrit said:

Yes, I ordered 3 6 packs of the Muppets hoping for at least one complete set & ended up with three sets of the same 6 figures.  Marvel I ordered 2 6 packs & got 2 sets of the same 6 figures.  Finally got lucky with series 24 and actually got all 12,  That order was from LEGO.com.  The other two were from Target.

I don’t think I had that issue. I think I ordered two 6 Packs and there is no duplication. 

I would be curious about trying wiht two 6 Paccks in January. I mean there could be some changes since blind boxes were introduced this year.  

[zoth33]

3 hours ago, Lion King said:

I don’t think I had that issue. I think I ordered two 6 Packs and there is no duplication. 

I would be curious about trying wiht two 6 Paccks in January. I mean there could be some changes since blind boxes were introduced this year.  

Did you order from Lego directly or like karrit said the other 2 were from target where there were duplicates?

[Roebuck]

I did not think the boxes of 6 had anymore guarantee of holding 6 different figs than the full boxes?

The 12 packs I think are a follow up of the grocery store ones with bands we have here. They are not made to have 12 different figs that is just a side effect. They are made for hanging in shops to avoid taking up shelf space...

[Clone OPatra]

13 hours ago, Roebuck said:

I did not think the boxes of 6 had anymore guarantee of holding 6 different figs than the full boxes?

They do. The six packs have always come with a purposeful selection of six different packs inside and aren't random. That said, some people have reported errors from time to time and gotten two of the same figure pack inside a six pack, but that is on account of an error and not randomisation.

[Lion King]

16 hours ago, zoth33 said:

Did you order from Lego directly or like karrit said the other 2 were from target where there were duplicates?

Directly from lego.com.

[BrickFit26]

23 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

As far as I know, only in Denmark. And I think the 6 Minifigure boxes also were first tested in Denmark because they were sold elsewhere - so the 12 Minifigure Boxes could be sold elsewhere too. But so far there was no mention of it so, it doesn´t seem like we are getting those - or they will be only avaiable from Lego maybe. 

That beeing said, I kinda wish they would make just a set with all minifigures instead of several boxes - that would first of all prevent packaging faults, where one minifigure is twice and another isn´t there at all and would also save a lot of packaging.

Me too. I'll be looking for the 12 pack tower to buy online somewhere if the price isn't to heavy. A one box purchase of all the collectibles is what I'm looking for.

[AmperZand]

Here are the boxed weights in grams according to Ashnflash on YT:
16.86 Barbarian Warrior (Red Sonja)
17.24 Sprinter
17.26 Fitness Instructor
17.68 e-Sports Gamer
17.73 Mushroom Sprite
17.73 Triceratops Guy
17.88 Harpy
18.30 Noir Detective
18.56 Dog Groomer
19.49 Vampire Knight (Count Batlord)
19.85 Goatherd
21.55 Train Kid

[Robert8]

First (?) review is up

https://www.brickfanatics.com/still-no-apart-lego-collectible-minifigures

[AmperZand]

16 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

First (?) review is up

https://www.brickfanatics.com/still-no-apart-lego-collectible-minifigures

Contrary to BrickFanatics, I reckon the weight difference between most of them is likely sufficient that variances in the amount of glue would not prevent you from telling them apart.

Admittedly, the weight method doesn’t distinguish between the Mushroom Sprite and the Triceratops Guy, but you may be able to tell them apart from their rattles as the former has lots of small pieces and the latter doesn’t. The Sprinter and Fitness Instructor may also be too close to separate. The rest though should be identifiable.

Ultimately, we may need to check the weights of empty boxes to see how consistent they are. I don’t know if anyone did that for the Marvel S2s. It would be interesting to find out.

[Khargeust]

https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/lego-collectible-minifigures-series-25/

Detailed review by Jay's Bricks is here.

[Lion King]

Review from Jay’s Brick Blog is up too. 

Edit: never mind I just saw the post above mine. 

[Grover]

On 12/18/2023 at 7:17 PM, AmperZand said:

Ultimately, we may need to check the weights of empty boxes to see how consistent they are. I don’t know if anyone did that for the Marvel S2s. It would be interesting to find out.

I did for Marvel S2.  Boxes average 8.80g, SD 0.112g, n=51.  Instructions average 2.46, SD 0.035g, n=51. SD on the capes was 0.013g, on the boxes for the capes was 0.033g, though since these last two weren't with all the figures, my data set was smaller.  The SD on the figures was pretty small (0.02g on average), but the few that had  an extra or missing part made a mess out of the distributions.  The main culprit in havoc with weight was the boxes themselves, as evidenced by the SD.  I was unable to determine any trend in the weights with the numbers on the box, but that might require a lot more data.  I suspect that the heterogenous nature of the fiber in the cardboard, coupled with variable moisture absorption of the cellulosic fibers and the variable amount of glue on each box are all to blame. 

I did a pretty detailed statistical analysis on the weights of the boxed figures, graphing assumed normal distribution curves based on the weights from my case and those of several friends and online folks.  With n=51, we actually did pretty well in making educated guesses on the various figures.  If this is something people are interested in here, both reading about and potentially collaborating on (the more data we have, the more accurate we get!), I'd be happy to post the analysis in the Marvel S2 thread.  I'm planning on doing the same thing for S25, too, though I probably won't get my case until mid January.  Let me know if you are interested and I'll make a post.

[JohnTPT17]

Interesting that Jay's Brick Blog mentioned that box distribution is now fully randomized (though still with three full sets in each box) . With Marvel 2, there was a pattern that was fairly accurate to where the figs would be. I also noticed that most early reviewers seem to have gotten the 12-minifig boxes instead of a full case - maybe that means the 12-minifig boxes will be more widely available this time?

Also, as someone who sorted through four cases of the Marvel 2 boxes, I could visually tell that there is a difference with the amount of glue that is used on these things. Some boxes had small, straight lines, while others would have slight curl on one or both ends. I don't know if that is enough to throw off weights (I don't have scale to know for sure), but it is something that I noticed. 

[1Panda]

The collection sheet is the exact same size as the ones used from series 1-18 just folded different. 

I also think the white part used for the train is kinda unnecessary as it just gets in the way of the kids view which probably explains why he has an eye patch and his hat is sand blue?! Was hoping for medium azure.

And the barbarians hair piece looks waaay better in person and the sword would look good with the “vampire knight”.

also the harpy’s legs work for the manta warrior last from Atlantis. 

Edited December 20, 2023 by 1Panda

[BrickFit26]

I'm a little jealous that some are getting the box tower of 12 packs, which is a complete set of all 12, when I see some reviews. I want that 12 pack tower.

[playgood]

The E-Sports Gamer's is wearing a shirt with what looks to be a modern version of the Black Falcons logo. I might pick that one up and make a Black Falcons Space figure with it.

[AmperZand]

On 12/20/2023 at 6:33 AM, Grover said:

I did for Marvel S2.  Boxes average 8.80g, SD 0.112g, n=51.  Instructions average 2.46, SD 0.035g, n=51. SD on the capes was 0.013g, on the boxes for the capes was 0.033g, though since these last two weren't with all the figures, my data set was smaller.  The SD on the figures was pretty small (0.02g on average), but the few that had  an extra or missing part made a mess out of the distributions.  The main culprit in havoc with weight was the boxes themselves, as evidenced by the SD.  I was unable to determine any trend in the weights with the numbers on the box, but that might require a lot more data.  I suspect that the heterogenous nature of the fiber in the cardboard, coupled with variable moisture absorption of the cellulosic fibers and the variable amount of glue on each box are all to blame. 

I did a pretty detailed statistical analysis on the weights of the boxed figures, graphing assumed normal distribution curves based on the weights from my case and those of several friends and online folks.  With n=51, we actually did pretty well in making educated guesses on the various figures.  If this is something people are interested in here, both reading about and potentially collaborating on (the more data we have, the more accurate we get!), I'd be happy to post the analysis in the Marvel S2 thread.  I'm planning on doing the same thing for S25, too, though I probably won't get my case until mid January.  Let me know if you are interested and I'll make a post.

Excellent! Thank you very much for that @Grover. The statistician and AFOL in me find this brilliant 😆

I agree that ideally, the n should be higher, and perhaps more importantly, as diverse as possible. Assuming that all CMFs are not produced in a single factory, there might be slight production differences across factories resulting in weight differences. A sufficiently diverse sample would de-risk the possibility of boxes from a certain factory being unrepresentative.

What would be phenomenal would be if someone created an online CMF S25 tool that estimated which CMF one had from its weight. The output would be a probability of it being each of the 12. For example, you enter 19.55g and the tool tells you there is a 87% chance of it being the Vampire Knight, an 8% chance of it being the Dog Groomer, a 4% chance of being the Goatherd and a combined 1% chance of it being being any other minifigure. If the tool asked the user for feedback. i.e. if its prediction was right each time and, if not, what the right prediction would have been, and gathered those data, the tool could be self-improving. I would create the tool myself but I just don't have the time. I bet such a tool would both impress and disgust the folks at LEGO 😂