2025 Space sets

[TeriXeri]

11 hours ago, Mondo-TRON said:

Looking at past City Space, it does not look like there is a series, with the same aesthetic, to continue the following year with a full wave.

I hope there are more waves and maybe continue with this aesthetic  for next year or two.

It could continue, if LEGO consider this it's own thing like Stuntz was, which had multiple waves in a row.

[Lyichir]

3 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

It could continue, if LEGO consider this it's own thing like Stuntz was, which had multiple waves in a row.

Also, there's little doubt that City will return to space at some point (much as it has many times over), so the only real question is how much the next iteration of it has in common with this current one. On the one hand, most iterations of City space have varied up things like logos and color schemes. But on the other hand, this wave feels like such a step forward that it's a little hard to picture the next wave of  City space sets being significantly LESS ambitious, and if these ones are particularly successful I could definitely see them maintaining things like the classic space logo and color-coded squads, if nothing else. Maybe the next iteration of this could be like the Futuron to this wave's Classic Space—an evolution of the groundwork this theme laid rather than a complete reinvention. Only time will tell, I suppose.

[danth]

16 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

All the 2024 City fire department flame logos  and 6 of the fire vehicle numbers are printed for 2024, so it's not just 4+ sets leading to getting more prints treatment, overall there has been a big increase in prints in City, also the flames and burger sign in the burger truck are then printed, 5 wanted posters in the Police sets as well, and the go-kart stripes etc, and the danger stripes do actually appear as a 1x2 tile in the Crook hideout set, altho the ones in the mech are stickered due to being a different yellow.

Yeah, I noticed that many (all?) 5+ sets seem to be getting all prints this year which is great.

17 hours ago, Lyichir said:

You're definitely assuming at least one "corporate constraints" that isn't there. Colorful canopies/windscreens are still fairly widespread in other themes, including the Dreamzzz Space Car from this year, the Dreamzzz Space Bus from last year, and the Galaxy Explorer and a Monkie Kid spaceship just two years ago. There are plenty of benefits of trans black being used here, including it being basically the newest transparent color, it being a relatively realistic take on the kind of solar shielding actual spacecraft windows could need, and it not favoring any particular color of astronaut in a theme with multiple colors of uniform. So I don't see any reason to assume that it had to have been any sort of "runner-up" choice on the part of the designers.

I didn't say that one was corporate! That one really is just about not humiliating the SW sets. Who says Lego sets don't have feelings?

It could be that Lego (either the designers or sales people) think that more colorful windscreens would turn off fans of more "realistic" NASA concept style sets. Whereas more kid friendly themes can get away with it.

I do think everyone (including Lego designers) knows that this theme would look awesome with trans-purple canopies, which is why they used trans purple for the Friends spaceship (which has the same white + new orange scheme otherwise). I'm sure trans purple was a contender in the concept stages of 2024 City Space. Actually it'd be really cool to see some of the concept designs!

[danth]

Random thoughts:

2024 City Space comes when there hasn't been a SW Trilogy movie for 5 years. Yes there's been TV shows like The Mandalorian, but it could be that Lego is noticing the Star Wars gravy train running a little thin.

So a new sci-fi Space theme now makes a lot of sense. But it also gives Lego some serious leverage when renewing its SW licensing. It shows that Lego doesn't need SW. How great is 2024 City Space and the sold out Galaxy Explorer when re-upping a sci-fi license? They could get Lego a bigger piece of the pie if they demonstrate that Disney has more to gain from the licensing fees than Lego does from the license.

Also, why suddenly turn away from the more realistic City Space stuff? Sure, City Space has been gradually getting more Sci-Fi (an actual moon base in 2022 being maybe the best example), but mechs and aliens and starships in 2024 is a pretty drastic turn. Maybe Lego sees a connection between going more sci-fi and better sales?

[Mondo-TRON]

6 hours ago, Operacion Saturno said:

I hope so.

It is more sad to see Classic Space AFOLs loosing their faith.

Lego space city theme moved from NASA designs to SCI FI stuff, we got 10497 and a new Invader sets, two new color classic space astronauts and some classic space fans still want to see the glass half empty.

I would think Classic Space fans, like myself, want more sets. Not just 10497 and couple of minifigures.

I would like to see a ground vehicle set and a base set. And maybe a small vehicle set.

For City Space, several waves of the current  series would be great.

More Blacktron sets to go with the Invader would be great too

5 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Also, there's little doubt that City will return to space at some point (much as it has many times over), so the only real question is how much the next iteration of it has in common with this current one. On the one hand, most iterations of City space have varied up things like logos and color schemes. But on the other hand, this wave feels like such a step forward that it's a little hard to picture the next wave of  City space sets being significantly LESS ambitious, and if these ones are particularly successful I could definitely see them maintaining things like the classic space logo and color-coded squads, if nothing else. Maybe the next iteration of this could be like the Futuron to this wave's Classic Space—an evolution of the groundwork this theme laid rather than a complete reinvention. Only time will tell, I suppose.

I dont want a next/ new iteration. Continue with a 2nd, 3rd,etc wave. Maybe change the color a bit. Like how Classic Space added the grey with green windows and white with blue windows but kept the same minifigures.

[TeriXeri]

5 hours ago, danth said:

Also, why suddenly turn away from the more realistic City Space stuff? Sure, City Space has been gradually getting more Sci-Fi (an actual moon base in 2022 being maybe the best example), but mechs and aliens and starships in 2024 is a pretty drastic turn. Maybe Lego sees a connection between going more sci-fi and better sales?

Perhaps also competitor brands doing Star Trek might've influenced it? I know Star Trek is pretty broad, but still very much about exploration to it's core, I know this LEGO City wave isn't really about "Starships", or other humanoid civilizations, but still has elements of visiting strange planets.

I mean, Classic Space started out with 3 space suit colors, and this wave pretty much has 3 main spacesuit colors as well, as does Star Trek for it's main personell in the majority of series it's Red/Blue/Yellow.

And there's the gold old guy, which reminds me of some guy like Admiral Picard (Picard series), someone who's not going to sit around in an office.

And the Crystals for power, are somewhat synonym to Dilithium from the series, while also going back to older LEGO exploration themes.

6 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Also, there's little doubt that City will return to space at some point (much as it has many times over), so the only real question is how much the next iteration of it has in common with this current one. On the one hand, most iterations of City space have varied up things like logos and color schemes. But on the other hand, this wave feels like such a step forward that it's a little hard to picture the next wave of  City space sets being significantly LESS ambitious, and if these ones are particularly successful I could definitely see them maintaining things like the classic space logo and color-coded squads, if nothing else. Maybe the next iteration of this could be like the Futuron to this wave's Classic Space—an evolution of the groundwork this theme laid rather than a complete reinvention. Only time will tell, I suppose.

I was more thinking of another wave, of a few sets, right after this, like Stuntz had, with using the same color scheme, but perhaps a bigger mining set, or a bigger spaceship, instead of a new iteration entirely, more modules obviously as well.

A Mining set can still have modules for rest and food, and perhaps a garage with tools (altho the 2022 Lunar Base could serve as Garage already), so more focus on a large mining crater would be prefered.

A larger spaceship could perhaps carry more modules, or perhaps even be modular entirely ,kind of like Space police 2 or ice planet, or even Classic space had "dropship" designs which dropped off a stationary forward base type of structure. (I do realise the VTOL Technic set kind of does that already, and that little hangar thing is somewhat compatible with minifigs for play, but that's about it)

Edited January 7, 2024 by TeriXeri

[Lyichir]

4 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

I was more thinking of another wave, of a few sets, right after this, like Stuntz had, with using the same color scheme, but perhaps a bigger mining set, or a bigger spaceship, instead of a new iteration entirely, more modules obviously as well.

A Mining set can still have modules for rest and food, and perhaps a garage with tools (altho the 2022 Lunar Base could serve as Garage already), so more focus on a large mining crater would be prefered.

A larger spaceship could perhaps carry more modules, or perhaps even be modular entirely ,kind of like Space police 2 or ice planet, or even Classic space had "dropship" designs which dropped off a stationary forward base type of structure. (I do realise the VTOL Technic set kind of does that already, and that little hangar thing is somewhat compatible with minifigs for play, but that's about it)

Oh, don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for that to happen—the continuation of this version of space would be pretty much my ideal scenario in the near term. I was just saying that if it doesn't, that doesn't mean it's 100% the end of the line for this version of space.

I've been trying my hand at MOCing but haven't gotten very far... it's hard to come up with designs as clever and effective as these ones, and I'm pretty rusty at MOCing all things considered. But I did come up with an idea for a bigger alien! I like to imagine this one isn't that much less friendly than the littler ones, but maybe still a little dangerous on account of its size. It's guarding an impact crater that revealed a massive crystal deposit (using one of the 6x6 crystal plates from last year's Disney Princess theme).

 

[Classic_Spaceman]

14 hours ago, danth said:

Random thoughts:

2024 City Space comes when there hasn't been a SW Trilogy movie for 5 years. Yes there's been TV shows like The Mandalorian, but it could be that Lego is noticing the Star Wars gravy train running a little thin.

So a new sci-fi Space theme now makes a lot of sense. But it also gives Lego some serious leverage when renewing its SW licensing. It shows that Lego doesn't need SW. How great is 2024 City Space and the sold out Galaxy Explorer when re-upping a sci-fi license? They could get Lego a bigger piece of the pie if they demonstrate that Disney has more to gain from the licensing fees than Lego does from the license.

LEGO just renewed the 10-year license in 2022, IIRC, so I doubt that these sets are being made with the 2032 renegotiation in mind. 
 

9 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

I was more thinking of another wave, of a few sets, right after this, like Stuntz had, with using the same color scheme, but perhaps a bigger mining set, or a bigger spaceship, instead of a new iteration entirely, more modules obviously as well.

A Mining set can still have modules for rest and food, and perhaps a garage with tools (altho the 2022 Lunar Base could serve as Garage already), so more focus on a large mining crater would be prefered.

A larger spaceship could perhaps carry more modules, or perhaps even be modular entirely ,kind of like Space police 2 or ice planet, or even Classic space had "dropship" designs which dropped off a stationary forward base type of structure. (I do realise the VTOL Technic set kind of does that already, and that little hangar thing is somewhat compatible with minifigs for play, but that's about it)

A large interstellar transport ship, a larger mining vehicle, a smaller base (can connect to the existing one), a small space outpost (can connect to the large station), and a few ~$11 sets like a rover or a speeder would be a perfect second wave. 
I would also like to see a new colour; red feels like the obvious choice, and it has a dark shade that can be used for the team’s leader. 
 

[danth]

9 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

LEGO just renewed the 10-year license in 2022, IIRC, so I doubt that these sets are being made with the 2032 renegotiation in mind. 

Shows what I know, maybe I need to pay more attention to that stuff I hypothesize about.

9 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I would also like to see a new colour; red feels like the obvious choice, and it has a dark shade that can be used for the team’s leader. 

I was surprised when there weren't any red colored figs in these sets. It would be a good addition.

[Operacion Saturno]

23 hours ago, Mondo-TRON said:

I would think Classic Space fans, like myself, want more sets. Not just 10497 and couple of minifigures.

I would like to see a ground vehicle set and a base set. And maybe a small vehicle set.

For City Space, several waves of the current  series would be great.

More Blacktron sets to go with the Invader would be great too

I dont want a next/ new iteration. Continue with a 2nd, 3rd,etc wave. Maybe change the color a bit. Like how Classic Space added the grey with green windows and white with blue windows but kept the same minifigures.

Yes to all that. To me, everything Looks like Lego Group is paving the way for an official Classic Space return. 
 

My glass is half full.

[legoturtle]

Today I bought my 3rd SPACE set 2024. That small mech. Now I have Interstellar + mini rover + mini mech. Guys, this stuff is sci-fi. Sets look LIVE even more amazing. Ok there was 4 stickers which was a nightmare, but I would say 97/100 set easily.

That person who made that green alien prototype (image) - please continue! I will copy that style any second now. That is a right direction. MAYBE and I am saying just MAYBE... those small aliens are babies... think about it 2 seconds... MAYBE in winter 2024 they will evolve bigger... OR even better, their mother will visit us... 

[Lyichir]

14 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

A large interstellar transport ship, a larger mining vehicle, a smaller base (can connect to the existing one), a small space outpost (can connect to the large station), and a few ~$11 sets like a rover or a speeder would be a perfect second wave. 
I would also like to see a new colour; red feels like the obvious choice, and it has a dark shade that can be used for the team’s leader. 
 

Red would be a good color and complement the others well (then we'd have red/blue/green/yellow-orange, not too far from some of the classic Lego colors). I wonder what role would be best for red, though? I asked one of the designers (Aaron Newman, who designed the Interstellar Spaceship and the Modular Space Station) on Instagram and he confirmed to me that yellow are construction, blue are explorers, and green are scientists. Maybe red could be medical or something along those lines?

[Black Falcon]

Medical would make sense, however they are likely included in scientists.

[danth]

Maybe red could be a Specialist designation? Whether or not they specialize in something that falls under the broad categories of engineer, explorer, or scientist.

[Mondo-TRON]

I was thinking blue were pilots and red could be  explorers.

Maybe they can add purple as medical

Edited January 9, 2024 by Mondo-TRON

[legoturtle]

I have this poster on my wall... it has frame and glass. That total cost me about 230 €. We have that Admiral... so that is yellow in Star Trek. Red is kind of security team? White medic?

So at least we need MEDIC and SECURITY. Actually it would be amazing to have LEGO Star Trek!

 

[TeddytheSpoon]

I was about to say - red outfit surely means cannon fodder, if Star Trek is anything to go by!

[Artanis I]

What role did red represent in Galaxy Squad?

There was chat about it, but I'm not sure that I recall being overly convinced about colours clearly representing roles.

[TeriXeri]

4 hours ago, TeddytheSpoon said:

I was about to say - red outfit surely means cannon fodder, if Star Trek is anything to go by!

Depends what era, TNG / DS9 / VOY , they swapped Yellow and Red. 

Edited January 9, 2024 by TeriXeri

[Lion King]

I just bought Intersellear Spaceship and Space Hoverbike (polybag). Not sure aout other City Space sets, such as Cnostruction Mech and River & Alien Life sets yet. 

[Lyichir]

Yesterday I bought and built the Modular Space Station set! Very fun build, albeit slightly repetitive for the four enclosed modules (which are mostly built the same).

Building it did make me appreciate its design even more. It's quite hefty once it's all put together, but the center span across the ring is sturdy and shaped perfectly to lift the whole thing by one-handed (with the gold cross bars being thin enough not to obstruct your fingers). I think it'd also be well-suited to hanging it by a string or fishing line, if you wanted to have it displayed that way.

[legoturtle]

https://www.lego.com/fi-fi/product/modular-space-station-60433

Look how it spins... that is also the way how to DISPLAY it. (video)

Edited January 9, 2024 by legoturtle

[Classic_Spaceman]

20 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Red would be a good color and complement the others well (then we'd have red/blue/green/yellow-orange, not too far from some of the classic Lego colors). I wonder what role would be best for red, though? I asked one of the designers (Aaron Newman, who designed the Interstellar Spaceship and the Modular Space Station) on Instagram and he confirmed to me that yellow are construction, blue are explorers, and green are scientists. Maybe red could be medical or something along those lines?

With blue being explorers rather than pilots, red could take that role; medical is a good choice, as well as security. 
 

10 hours ago, Artanis I said:

What role did red represent in Galaxy Squad?

Galaxy Squad colours denoted teams rather than roles, though each team had an area of specialisation (Blue - Strategy and technology, Green - Defence and heavy artillery, Red - Speed, Orange - Firepower). 
 

[Mondo-TRON]

I would like LEGO to introduce a new color,  for the astronauts, for every wave.

[legoturtle]