[CONTEST] Return of the Classic Pirates - Vote Counting

[Mister Phes]

Return of the Classic Pirates Contest
VOTING CLOSED!

 

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Voting Rules

Voting will take place between August 28 and September 16.

You will have the opportunity to allocate 3-5 votes to entries in both the Main Building Category and Mini Set Building Category for a total of to 6 to 10 votes.

All votes have equal weight and you may only a assign a one vote per entry.

  

How to Vote

1. Read and understand the complete Voting Rules below.
2. Review all the contest entries
3. Create a new post in this and in two separate lists, simply name the 3-5 entries from each category you'd like to assign your votes to.

Include both the Entry's Name and the Builder's Name to avoid confusion as some entries have similar names.

And ideally write a heading for each list with the name of the Building Category:

For example:

Quote

Main Building Category
"Entry Name" 1 by Builder's Name
"Entry Name" 2 by Builder's Name
"Entry Name" 3 by Builder's Name
"Entry Name" 4 by Builder's Name
"Entry Name" 5 by Builder's Name

Mini Set Building Category
"Entry Name 1" by Builder's Name
"Entry Name 2" by Builder's Name
"Entry Name 3" by Builder's Name
"Entry Name 4" by Builder's Name
"Entry Name 5" by Builder's Name

There are only TWO categories

The Main Building Category and the Mini Set Building Category.

There is NO category distinction as to whether an entry is a new set concept or a remake of an existing set.  That is a builder's creative choice, not a category.
 

How many entries can I vote for?

A minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 in each category for a total of to 6 to 10 votes over both categories.

 

Please only create one post in the voting topic

When counting votes we want to ensure the process is efficient and transparent as possible.

So if you:

• Have a question, feedback or a concern regarding the voting process, please post in this topic.
• Feel the need to discuss a particular creation, please do so in that creation's entry topic.

Creative Critics

You may also weigh-in your final thoughts and commentary along with your votes.

Your closing thoughts will also be considered to determine the winner of the Creative Critic Category.

These thoughts are not intended to be discussion, so only one post per critic.

Again, if anyone feels the need to respond, please do so in the appropriate entry topic(s).  Be sure to quote the Creative Critic you're responding to so they're alerted.

How will Winners be Determined?
It will be as simple as counting the votes.

Main Building Category

• The entry with the most votes will win 10320 Eldorado Fortress (or prize pool of equivalent value)
• The entry with the second most votes will a set chosen by the builder to the value of 70€
• The entry with the third most votes will win a set chosen by the builder to the value of 35€

Mini Set Building Category

• The entry with the most votes will win a set chosen by the builder to the value of 35€

What Happens if there is a Draw?

The final week of voting (September 9 - 16) will be used to settle draws.

If by September 9 a draw is highly likely, the entries which have achieved an equal number of votes will face off against each other in a second voting poll.

Frequently Asked Questions

How many categories are there?
Two.  The Main Building Category and the Mini Set Building Category.

There is NO category distinction as to whether an entry is a new set concept or a remake of an existing set.  This is the builder's choice, not a category.
 

Do I have to vote for at least three entries per category?
Yes. A minimum of 3 votes and a maximum of 5 votes in both the Main Building Category and the Mini Set Building Category.

Select the 3-5 entries you admire most in each category.

If you're unsure which entries to select, here are some suggested criteria:

• Can you imagine the entry being released as an official LEGO set?
• For new set entries: has the builder found an original concept?
• For remake entries: has the builder managed to update the original set's design while offering new innovations?
• Has the design concept been executed well?

 

Can I change my vote distribution? E.g. 8 votes in the Main Building category and 1 vote in the Mini Set Building Category?
No.  A maximum of 5 votes per category; no more, no less.
 

Can I vote for 3 entries in one category and 5 entries in the other?
Yes.  Providing the other category has a minimum of 3 votes and a maximum of 5 votes.

Can I change who I voted for after I've voted?
No.  Once you've voted, your vote is final.  This is to prevent manipulation of the voting system after the results provide an indication of which entries are leading.

So ensure you are 100% certain with your choices before submitting your vote.  If you are found to have changed your votes, they will be invalidated.
 

Can I vote for my own entry?
You may vote for one of your own entries in each category, but your remaining votes must be allocated to two different entries (per category) submitted by other builders.

Can I assign more than one vote to the same entry? 
No.  One vote per entry.
 

Can my votes be invalidated?
Yes. If you fail to comply to the voting rules or attempting to cheat, your votes may be removed.

Can I register a Eurobricks account to vote?
Providing you don't already have a Eurobricks account.

If you are found to have voted from multiple accounts ALL your votes will be invalidated.

Those suspected of creating or voting from multiple accounts may be required to verify their identity for each account.
 

Can I register a Eurobricks account on behalf of another person to vote?
No.  This avoids of complications arising from people who attempt to create multiple accounts to vote.

You must vote from your own account, registered using your own personal details.
 

I have previously registered more than one Eurobricks account can I vote from each account?
No.  Vote from the account in which you're most active.

If you vote from more than one account, ALL your votes will be invalidated and your non-primary accounts will be deleted.

Terms & Conditions

Prize Availability
The sets selected as prizes must be available in each winner's home LEGO.com.

For example: If winner #1 is located in the US then their prize has to be available on lego.com/en-us, if winner #2 is German their prize has to be available on lego.com/en-de, winner #3 is Australian their prize has to be available on lego.com/en-au, and so on.

Main Building Category

• First place winner will receive a 10320 (or prize pool of equivalent value of their choosing)
• Second place winner will receive a set of their choice to the value of 70€
• Third place winner will receive a set of their choice to the value of 35€

All sets subject to availability as determined by the LEGO Group during September 2023.

Mini Set Building Category

• First place winner will receive a set of their choice to the value of 35€

Creative Critic

• First place winner will receive a 10320 (or prize pool of equivalent value of their choosing)

Permissions
By participating or viewing, as an entrant, critic, commentator or observer, you hereby:

• Agree to these Terms & Conditions
• Agree to the Classic Pirates Terms of Use
• Grant Eurobricks and Classic Pirates permission to share your images, textual contributions and other media via our various websites and social media accounts.
    

The Classic Pirates crew and Eurobricks staff reserve the right to:

• Revise the contest or these terms and conditions at any time. 
• Remove a participant from the contest or completely ban a member from the forum or related social media profiles. 
• Make final decisions on any aspect of the contest without notice.

Ask Your Questions:

Do you require further clarification? Did we miss something important? Do you have feedback to provide?

Please create a new post in this topic clearing detailing your question or feedback...

 

[Marooned Marin]

2 hours ago, Mister Phes said:

Main Building Category
The entry with the most votes will win the prize;  A 35€ set of the builder's choice

Possible copy/paste error spotted, I think you meant Mini Set Category?

[Mister Phes]

6 minutes ago, Marooned Marin said:

Possible copy/paste error spotted, I think you meant Mini Set Category?

Great spot!  Yes, that's exactly what I meant. 

Up the Creative Critic Leaderboard you go!  Oh wait...  you withdrew from that category.  Never mind.

[Rogue Redcoat]

On 8/12/2023 at 2:26 AM, Mister Phes said:

The Classic Pirates crew and Eurobricks staff reverse the right to:

You mean reserve the right to

[Mister Phes]

7 hours ago, Rogue Redcoat said:

You mean reserve the right to

Splendid proofreading - we should put you on blog duty! 

[MstrOfPppts]

I call for a mutiny! Taking the amount of entries in consideration as well as their general high quality I think that the entrants did a very good job. And the least we can do to show them some credit is being able to vote for 5 entries per category!

As for the voting for yourself - I know it's a bit of a pirate tradition around here, but I don't see any point in it. Makes for a bit of a disadvantage for the people with common sense! (:

Any details on how long the voting phase will last?

[Mister Phes]

2 hours ago, MstrOfPppts said:

I call for a mutiny! Taking the amount of entries in consideration as well as their general high quality I think that the entrants did a very good job. And the least we can do to show them some credit is being able to vote for 5 entries per category! 

Vote for 5 entries per category yer say?  Total of 10 votes?

Anyone else second this?

 

2 hours ago, MstrOfPppts said:

As for the voting for yourself - I know it's a bit of a pirate tradition around here, but I don't see any point in it. Makes for a bit of a disadvantage for the people with common sense! (:

It encourages entrants to vote and avoid a situation in which very few people vote.

 

2 hours ago, MstrOfPppts said:

Any details on how long the voting phase will last?

Well blow me down!  In almost every contest topic I've included a timeline but seem to have omitted that vital detail from this topic.

Thank ye - it shall be rectified.

[Dreamweb]

10 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

Anyone else second this?

With such an enormous number of entries, I think it's a good idea.

Or perhaps 5 votes in the main category (which kind of consists of two sub-categories anyway), and 3 votes in the mini set?

[Mister Phes]

5 minutes ago, Dreamweb said:

Or perhaps 5 votes in the main category (which kind of consists of two sub-categories anyway), and 3 votes in the mini set?

Both categories consist of the "Invent a new set" and "Update an existing set" sub categories...

6 minutes ago, Dreamweb said:

With such an enormous number of entries, I think it's a good idea.

 

Ok that's TWO supporters of voting for 5 entries per category (10 votes in total)

Anyone third this?

[F1stzz]

2 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

Anyone third this?

I'd say it would be nice to have more options for voting as expanding the selection doesn't affect the total amount of winners in the end, but in theory may smooth out the votes distribution process

[Dreamweb]

11 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

Both categories consist of the "Invent a new set" and "Update an existing set" sub categories...

OK, thanks for the clarification, in that case by all means 5 + 5 should be the way to go.

[Mister Phes]

2 minutes ago, F1stzz said:

I'd say it would be nice to have more options for voting as expanding the selection doesn't affect the total amount of winners in the end, but in theory may smooth out the votes distribution process

So you're the third supporter for 5 votes per category?

[F1stzz]

2 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

So you're the third supporter for 5 votes per category?

Positive 

[Mister Phes]

53 minutes ago, F1stzz said:

Positive 

THREE supporters of voting for 5 entries per category (10 votes in total)!!!

Can we get a fourth supporter?

[Mazin]

I'd prefer to focus on reviewing rather than making the rules, i just don't feel good about crossing between those two territories ;) And with summer almost gone, i didn't even start making my own build, not sure if i'll even sit to it as it requires time and place to work on anything and with so many entries seen and diccussed i'm worried i might borrow ideas from others and it wouldn't seem fair ;)

But... i was quite sure this contest was almost over and that we would be pretty much done with reviewing and suddenly entries started coming out of the woorwork, and a lot of builders promised to deliver more entries, so no one can tell what will those last days will bring.  Maybe today will be the last day of minientries, or we might just see a flood of them coming on the last possible hour. Big sets seem to have claimed their positioned on our virtual shelves as well, but perhaps some real surprises will grab my eye balls right after i'll finish this post.

Anyway... if i could suggest anything about voting, it would be postpone with cementing any voting rules until Governor Phes will be sure how many entries per category there is, and should any of them be transfered to a different, but proper category. Or should any entry entry be banned, couse there was one such issue or two. Some builders seemed to have problems with posting pictures, so i guess it might take a while too. Tho, it's not up to me to set deadlines, but all i wanna say is that it would a fair thing to fo to simply wait till the building part of the contest is over, and then to allocate an appropriate number of votes based on the number of entries in said categories.  

[Yoggington]

A question in advance of the impending deadline.

Once my build is finalised and I have final pictures etc., what is the better way to present them? Should I be editing the OP in my thread to be the post with the final versions? Or is it better to leave the thread as historically posted and have the final submission post be over on page 2/3?

Does it even matter?

Edited August 22, 2023 by Yoggington

[Mister Phes]

11 hours ago, Mazin said:

Anyway... if i could suggest anything about voting, it would be postpone with cementing any voting rules until Governor Phes will be sure how many entries per category there is, [...]  all i wanna say is that it would a fair thing to fo to simply wait till the building part of the contest is over, and then to allocate an appropriate number of votes based on the number of entries in said categories.  

Thank you for your concern!

Of course there won't be any cementing of the voting rules until after entries close.

At this point, we're just taking expressions of interest to increase 3 votes per category to 5, because it seems there will be sufficient entries to warrant that.

 

11 hours ago, Mazin said:

Should any of them be transfered to a different, but proper category. Or should any entry entry be banned, couse there was one such issue or two. Some builders seemed to have problems with posting pictures, so i guess it might take a while too. Tho, it's not up to me to set deadlines.

The deadline for entries has been well advertised so we better honour that.

But those issues should have been resolved more than a month and any entries requiring transfer were done after the announcement of the Mini Set Building Category.

Baring in mind, there are only two categories: The Main Building Category and Mini Set Building Category.

There is no category distinction between invent a new set and update a classic set - that's merely a creative choice offered to building entrants.

 

 

2 hours ago, Yoggington said:

Once my build is finalised and I have final pictures etc., what is the better way to present them? Or is it better to leave the thread as historically posted and have the final submission post be over on page 2/3?

Does it even matter?

If you want to attract as many voters as possible, yes it does matter.

Ideally you want to have your final/best pictures at the very top of the first post (in your entry topic) and again near the last post.

When voters come to review your entry, don't expect them to read through 2+ pages of posts.  Not everyone has the time or patience for that!

If they use the Entries Index, they'll arrive at the first post in your entry topic and make their assessment based on what they see there.

Those who been following the contest make delve further, but causal voters probably won't make that effort. Off they go to review the next entry.

So your mission is to ensure your best images are positioned where they are most accessible.... and that's always going to be in the topic's first post and last post.

[Dreamweb]

I'm not so sure about this voting for oneself. It depends too much on the attitude. Some people would never vote for themselves, as they just deem it not cricket. Some probably would have no problem with it. Personally, I would disable this. But that's just my opinion.

[Mister Phes]

8 minutes ago, Dreamweb said:

I'm not so sure about this voting for oneself. It depends too much on the attitude. Some people would never vote for themselves, as they just deem it not cricket. Some probably would have no problem with it. Personally, I would disable this. But that's just my opinion.

And that's two who share that opinion...  can we get a third?

 

[Mazin]

5 hours ago, Mister Phes said:

Thank you for your concern!

Of course there won't be any cementing of the voting rules until after entries close.

At this point, we're just taking expressions of interest to increase 3 votes per category to 5, because it seems there will be sufficient entries to warrant that.

 

The deadline for entries has been well advertised so we better honour that.

But those issues should have been resolved more than a month and any entries requiring transfer were done after the announcement of the Mini Set Building Category.

Baring in mind, there are only two categories: The Main Building Category and Mini Set Building Category.

There is no category distinction between invent a new set and update a classic set - that's merely a creative choice offered to building entrants.

 

Thanx for responding and glad my words are appreciated :)

And yeah, i think merging Remakes and "New" sets is quite useful, cause with remakes there's always a bit controversy whether they looks too similar, or too different, should they be the same size, or bigger, should they offer more play features or should thye just stick to what the original had to offer, so it's hard to judge them and i guess everyone will have his own opinion about this matter. To me these sets' main focus, whether they are new or remakes, inspired by, etc, should be on brining back all those damn cool values we've seeked in Pirates years ago and we would like to seek again now.

Then again, that's just my idea, logical to me, but others might have different thoughts about it.  

25 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

And that's two who share that opinion...  can we get a third?

 

Absolutely. Voting for own entries would be like liking own posts on FB ;) Ticket straight to hell ;) My only concern tho, is that it would be unfair if builder A would vote for an entry of builder B, out of real respect or as a courtesy, but builder B would not vote at all, thus gaining points from others, but not giving them to rivals. Therefore either every builder involved should be obligated to vote, or they should all not vote at all.    

[Yoggington]

Thanks for the info Phes. That makes sense.

As for the questions here in thread, I think a standard 'no voting for self' is a good thing.

Looking at the volume of entries, no harm in giving out five votes per person per category either.

[Mister Phes]

2 hours ago, Mazin said:

Therefore either every builder involved should be obligated to vote, or they should all not vote at all.    

It's the part where we don't enough people voting that I'm attempting to circumvent.

[Dreamweb]

I'm sure a lot of people will vote anyway. Wasn't it always so in every contest in the past?

[Mister Phes]

2 minutes ago, Dreamweb said:

I'm sure a lot of people will vote anyway. Wasn't it always so in every contest in the past?

By the past you mean 10-15 years ago before social media came along causing forum activity to decrease?

 

[_R_R_]

I agree with those saying there should be more slots for voting, 4 or 5 seems ideal given the amount of entries in the contest and gives more people a chance. However I'm sure it will probably result in more ties which may prolong the voting period.

I'm not sure about removing the ability to vote for yourself, I personally wouldn't vote for myself but I'm sure a lot of people would because let's face it a lot of entries are at a disadvantage due to the date they were posted at or because of other great entries getting more attention.