LordsofMedieval Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) I wanted to throw something together for people who were looking for an alternative to the OE locomotive without breaking the bank on some $400 adventure. My prevailing goals with this design were thus: Simplicity Robustness Low part count. Reuse of the tender (and yes, I know the tender from the stock engine doesn't match the prototype. But we're trying to be budget conscious here and waste as little of the core model as possible). This isn't fancy, and it isn't intended to be. It's designed to be used with #12 (XLL) drivers which, unfortunately, my add-on to stud.io lacks (not sure if this has been rectified in a modern version of the add-on?). This is why the rearmost pair of 'gear' wheels are missing from the engine - an XLL driver would fit there; a gear won't. The wheel arrangement is flange-blind-flange-blind to bring the trailing bogie as close to the trailing wheelset as is possible. This isn't intended as some kind of award-winning build - I just wanted something somewhat respectable looking, era appropriate... and that didn't involve a lot of work and would fit with the rest of the train. HERE IS THE DOWNLOAD LINK. Edited October 13, 2023 by LordsofMedieval Quote
zephyr1934 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Nice start. It looks like you are aiming for someone who has done enough customizing to know how (or be willing to take the leap) to buying BBB or similar XXL drivers. However, I THINK the new set is dark blue, whereas your build is normal blue. If so, there are much fewer parts available in dark blue (e.g., the hinge bricks and windows). If sticking with normal blue you would also have to recolor the tender and the locomotive will be a different color the train, which would be fine, in fact blue and dark blue can make a good combination, but then other colors become an option too. I would think a variant for "completely new to MOCing" that uses the L wheels that come with the locomotive would also be of interest- where a builder new to customizing only has to figure out how to get Lego parts (which is a lot easier now with the online PAB). In this case reusing as much of the parts as possible that come for the standard locomotive would also be good. Quote
XG BC Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, zephyr1934 said: I would think a variant for "completely new to MOCing" that uses the L wheels that come with the locomotive would also be of interest- where a builder new to customizing only has to figure out how to get Lego parts (which is a lot easier now with the online PAB). In this case reusing as much of the parts as possible that come for the standard locomotive would also be good. agreed, starting of with the base set is a good aproach. Quote
LordsofMedieval Posted October 13, 2023 Author Posted October 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, XG BC said: agreed, starting of with the base set is a good aproach. I'll look into it. I was really having a hard time coming up with a prototype with drivers that small that was also pleasing to the eye. The other issue is this: I'm probably never going to replicate Lego's driver spacing to the degree that the provided rods would be of any use. The vast, vast, vast majority of steam engines had a wider gap between the big wheels than Lego allows for in a stock configuration (due to many factors including the fitting of brakes). One way or another, anyone building a MOCed steam engine is likely to be greatly assisted by the use of some kind of custom part, even if they aren't wheels. Quote
Sven J Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 That's an excellent approach, and a locomotive that suits the Orient Express WAY better than Lego's strange toy engine. Thank you for sharing the file! Clever idea to use the flag as a smoke deflector, too! Only one thing, nitpicking as always from me : To the best of my knowledge, Austrian steam locomotives were just plain black before WW II (afterwards, they had their wheels painted red). The grey colour scheme in your photos above is the so-called "Fotografieranstrich", a special paint which was only applied for taking the builder's photos (often only on one side!), as details become more apparent against the light grey paint than they would on a black engine. But that much artistic licence must be granted, I think... Quote
ToledoRails Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 I'd like to see a finished built version before trying it out for myself. Quote
Hod Carrier Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 5 hours ago, zephyr1934 said: However, I THINK the new set is dark blue, whereas your build is normal blue. Apologies for duplicate posting, but I don’t believe the Orient Express set is dark blue. It could be standard blue, but I’m placing my money on dark azure. Quote
LordsofMedieval Posted October 14, 2023 Author Posted October 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Sven J said: That's an excellent approach, and a locomotive that suits the Orient Express WAY better than Lego's strange toy engine. Thank you for sharing the file! Clever idea to use the flag as a smoke deflector, too! Only one thing, nitpicking as always from me : To the best of my knowledge, Austrian steam locomotives were just plain black before WW II (afterwards, they had their wheels painted red). The grey colour scheme in your photos above is the so-called "Fotografieranstrich", a special paint which was only applied for taking the builder's photos (often only on one side!), as details become more apparent against the light grey paint than they would on a black engine. But that much artistic licence must be granted, I think... Yes, and this definitely was a black engine. But I went with color simply because I assumed people wouldn't want a match. The file is there for folks to toy with as they see fit. It wasn't intended as an end-all, be-all, but rather just a guide. I'm actually going to do another engine tonight using the stock Lego wheels. Quote
THERIZE Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Looks nice! The use of the flags as smoke deflecters is clever, I haven't seen that before. The 2-6-4 wheel arrangement is also quite interesting, I don't think those were common here in Europe. It's like there's something off with the proportions, but unlike the locomotive LEGO provides, it's actually a real prototype. Quote
DAN42BR Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 Hello I have to disappoint you, the 214 was never available with a boiler! Not even with shiny sheet metal that shimmers blue. You implemented it great, I also built it so that the locomotive can also run on Lego tracks. Of course in black. greetings from Austria! Quote
Murdoch17 Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 @DAN42BR The guy your are talking to got banned a while ago. So he won't be seeing your comment on this thread. Quote
DAN42BR Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 33 minutes ago, Murdoch17 said: "DAN42BR Der Typ, mit dem du sprichst, wurde vor einiger Zeit verboten. Also wird er Ihren Kommentar zu diesem Faden nicht sehen. OK Quote
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