LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

My view is that both these arguments sit at the opposite ends of the spectrum when in reality it’s something in-between. 

100% true. Of course you can't compare the two exactly- no two things are the same- but it's the same general concept of "new thing bad until newer thing comes around and is worse". I can't wait for when (If, to be honest) the Rey movie releases and everyone talks about how she was characterized better in the sequels and the threat of Darth Spooky undoes Ben Solo's sacrifice.

5 hours ago, ginja said:

Why disappointing? I get not enjoying something, or not being interested or excited in something, but why disappointed? Don't watch it.

Exactly. I wasn't a fan of book of boba, but I'm not gonna be sad if they announce season 2- I want to see Boba and Fennec's stories continue, even if I didn't like where they went in the show.

 

This is pretty heavily off-topic, so the only thing I'll say on the "Prequels vs sequels" debate is "No, I swear, the new one is a soulless cash grab, the old one(s) was/were made with genuine vision" has been said since 1980.

[Minishark2000]

Just now, CallumPears said:

Not 100% sure so someone correct me if I'm wrong but I heard the Max Rebo thing was fake. Just had a quick search and couldn't find confirmation either way though. 

As for the Barge as a whole, was there ever any information beyond it being in that survey to gauge interest? (Meaning it might not even happen at all.) I assumed the talk of it being released in October was just speculation. 

Yeah I'm not sure about info beyond the survey, but I think the general idea is that since like half of the survey sets have turned out to be actually coming we could assume the other half are also coming just yet to be officially confirmed by someone like promobricks or max bautde?

[Mandalorianknight]

3 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

Not 100% sure so someone correct me if I'm wrong but I heard the Max Rebo thing was fake. Just had a quick search and couldn't find confirmation either way though. 

As for the Barge as a whole, was there ever any information beyond it being in that survey to gauge interest? (Meaning it might not even happen at all.) I assumed the talk of it being released in October was just speculation. 

Yeah I'd never heard of the max rebo leak before, but given how long it's been, I highly doubt we'd see an exact copy of the mold/print. Not to mention that's an incredibly easy leak to fake- you just take a photo of the part and then lie.

I don't believe so, but a large number of survey sets have been confirmed by either lego or reliable leakers, so I assume it is coming, it's more a question of when. IIRC some of those sets are supposedly 2025.

Edited January 11, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[NoOneOfImportance]

52 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

100% true. Of course you can't compare the two exactly- no two things are the same- but it's the same general concept of "new thing bad until newer thing comes around and is worse". I can't wait for when (If, to be honest) the Rey movie releases and everyone talks about how she was characterized better in the sequels and the threat of Darth Spooky undoes Ben Solo's sacrifice.

This is pretty heavily off-topic, so the only thing I'll say on the "Prequels vs sequels" debate is "No, I swear, the new one is a soulless cash grab, the old one(s) was/were made with genuine vision" has been said since 1980.

When I mentioned "warming up" to TFA, this is what I meant. I didn't intend to start a whole discussion like this, and I apologize. 

Essentially, I remember when the PT was viewed with so much more distaste, and now people are clamoring for so much from it (and that era). I have a feeling that eventually the same will happen to the ST, whether to the same degree or not we shall see.

[Flawless Cowboy]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

This is pretty heavily off-topic, so the only thing I'll say on the "Prequels vs sequels" debate is "No, I swear, the new one is a soulless cash grab, the old one(s) was/were made with genuine vision" has been said since 1980.

This cliche works both ways. “People will stop hating the new thing once a newer thing releases” is spewed constantly to deflect criticism of poor media as merely crusty old fans who can’t adapt, which is just as dishonest. And in the case of Star Wars under Disney, the likability vs time graph is not a straight, downwards trending line. 

[Mandalorianknight]

14 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

This cliche works both ways. “People will stop hating the new thing once a newer thing releases” is spewed constantly to deflect criticism of poor media as merely crusty old fans who can’t adapt, which is just as dishonest. And in the case of Star Wars under Disney, the likability vs time graph is not a straight, downwards trending line. 

I'm not deflecting criticism of the sequels- I HATE TLJ, and don't like the other two much either. (Though it is funny to me you seem to imply here that the prequels are some higher quality of media.) But it is ACTUALLY true that when the new movies release, people look back on the older one more fondly, especially if they were younger upon release. It's not just star wars (though seriously. Ewoks in ROTJ, all of the prequels, THE CLONE WARS CARTOON- at least it's early seasons, etc.), the same is true of things like Micheal Bay's Transformers and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. Both are franchises heavily panned but now seen in a higher light as the generation that grew up with them reaches adult hood, and subsequent reboots have released. (Even if the reboot is generally liked, like MCU spider-man)  The fact that someone was 5 when they watched Bayformers doesn't make it any less awful, but it does mean there's a lot more clamor for more studio series figures of Micheal Bay designs. The same will likely hold true of the sequels. Give it a few years, and we'll see.

And yeah, no bricks sherlock, it's not a constant line. The prequels were hated until the time the sequels came out- much of the media chatter around TFA was how it was trying to avoid the mistakes of the prequels and how it did things like return to more practical effects rather than CGI overuse. That's 16 years between TPM and TFA, and I'd argue people didn't start going "no but the prequels are actually good trust me bro" until around The Last Jedi. TFA isn't even a decade old yet. 

37 minutes ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

When I mentioned "warming up" to TFA, this is what I meant. I didn't intend to start a whole discussion like this, and I apologize. 

No need to apologize, it's pretty hard to avoid triggering multi-page debates online. We just had one about what color an MTT we have no actual evidence is coming would be a few pages ago.

But you can probably remove my quote from your signature soon- we're likely only a few weeks away from that Malak minifig leaking and saving me from having to eat a plushie.

[Flawless Cowboy]

19 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not deflecting criticism of the sequels- I HATE TLJ, and don't like the other two much either. (Though it is funny to me you seem to imply here that the prequels are some higher quality of media.) But it is ACTUALLY true that when the new movies release, people look back on the older one more fondly, especially if they were younger upon release. It's not just star wars (though seriously. Ewoks in ROTJ, all of the prequels, THE CLONE WARS CARTOON- at least it's early seasons, etc.), the same is true of things like Micheal Bay's Transformers and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. Both are franchises heavily panned but now seen in a higher light as the generation that grew up with them reaches adult hood, and subsequent reboots have released. (Even if the reboot is generally liked, like MCU spider-man)  The fact that someone was 5 when they watched Bayformers doesn't make it any less awful, but it does mean there's a lot more clamor for more studio series figures of Micheal Bay designs. The same will likely hold true of the sequels. Give it a few years, and we'll see.

And yeah, no bricks sherlock, it's not a constant line. The prequels were hated until the time the sequels came out- much of the media chatter around TFA was how it was trying to avoid the mistakes of the prequels and how it did things like return to more practical effects rather than CGI overuse. That's 16 years between TPM and TFA, and I'd argue people didn't start going "no but the prequels are actually good trust me bro" until around The Last Jedi. TFA isn't even a decade old yet. 

I didn’t accuse you of deflection, just pointed out the fact that there’s a balance to be found between knee jerk overreaction and blind fanboying over new content. Also, people are more than free to consider the prequels to be greater films than the sequels and should be able to do so without your condescension. 

[Brickwraith]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

This is pretty heavily off-topic, so the only thing I'll say on the "Prequels vs sequels" debate is "No, I swear, the new one is a soulless cash grab, the old one(s) was/were made with genuine vision" has been said since 1980.

This is all I was trying to say, I'm just not very good at preventing myself from getting dragged into a pointless debate

[MKJoshA]

You all know you're off topic. So do the right thing and get back on topic.

[MaximillianRebo]

One set from the ST that I'd like to get my hands on is the Quadjumper. I know it's a blink and you'd miss it appearance in TFA (par for the course with Star Wars) but the design and build look interesting and it'd fit right in with a Mos Eisley setup. I wasn't buying Lego back when Ep 7 came out, but it looks like the film tie in sets were pretty expensive (even for LSW) so the after market is still reasonably pricey, at least where I am (perhaps the brief appearance in Andor had something to do with that). I'm not particularly fussed about the figs though, maybe I'll just part it out one day.

[BrickBob Studpants]

It‘s not unreasonable to assume that all of the survey leak sets are coming this year. First off, the survey was about the sets‘ prices, not whether participants were interested in general, so any of getting cancelled would be kinda weird.

Secondly, since more than half of them have already been confirmed for this year, it’d be strange if some of the others were intended for 2025. Why would they be interested in gauging prices two years in advance?

Sure, it can’t be ruled out that some of the remaining ones aren’t coming this year, but personally I believe they all make it. After all, all of the ones confirmed so far are coming out between March and June, leaving enough room for more sets in 2HY.

Edited January 11, 2024 by BrickBob Studpants

[HothFan1987]

16 hours ago, ginja said:

Why disappointing? I get not enjoying something, or not being interested or excited in something, but why disappointed? Don't watch it.

Because it’s time / effort / money / resources dedicated to it that could be used for something else. So it’s disappointing. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

10 minutes ago, HothFan1987 said:

Because it’s time / effort / money / resources dedicated to it that could be used for something else. So it’s disappointing. 

Lucasfilm aren’t catering specifically to you though  For instance, I don’t care one iota about Andor and I’d never say that the existence of a second season is a disappointment, because I know plenty of people are looking forward to that

“Why is [company] making [product I personally dislike]? They should make [product I personally like]!” isn’t that great of an argument, no matter whether we’re talking about movies, shows, or LEGO sets

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah I'd never heard of the max rebo leak before, but given how long it's been, I highly doubt we'd see an exact copy of the mold/print. Not to mention that's an incredibly easy leak to fake- you just take a photo of the part and then lie.

I don't believe so, but a large number of survey sets have been confirmed by either lego or reliable leakers, so I assume it is coming, it's more a question of when. IIRC some of those sets are supposedly 2025.

I’m not exactly sure how Lego keeps their old moulds, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the same one they did back in 2013, as they brought back the Gamorrean mould recently after a similar time gap. Especially since there’s really no way to improve on the mould. 
 

(But I agree, I don’t trust the leak at all.)

[GlacierPhoenix]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Secondly, since more than half of them have already been confirmed for this year, it’d be strange if some of the others were intended for 2025. Why would they be interested in gauging prices two years in advance?

 

I would guess some were in earlier stages of development where they're more subject to change than something that may be near final. 

[Minishark2000]

32 minutes ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

I’m not exactly sure how Lego keeps their old moulds, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the same one they did back in 2013, as they brought back the Gamorrean mould recently after a similar time gap. Especially since there’s really no way to improve on the mould. 
 

(But I agree, I don’t trust the leak at all.)

It's a pretty perfect mold but does lego still do those rubberized molds that they were so addicted to doing around 2012-2014? I remember we got so many aliens around that time with the rubber parts, also other themes had rubberized pieces too. But yeah you are right it probably was a fake leak especially since it was so long ago, probably way before production could realistically start of the set (probably hasn't even started now?)

Edited January 11, 2024 by Minishark2000

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

I’m not exactly sure how Lego keeps their old moulds, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the same one they did back in 2013, as they brought back the Gamorrean mould recently after a similar time gap. Especially since there’s really no way to improve on the mould.

It's pretty well-documented that lego destroys the physical molds after a few years without being used (I don't think they've ever given the exact time, but looking at some times I'd say it's probably around 5 years in general, but I doubt it's a blanket "if a part is unused for 5 years we scrap it"). However, you are right that they could still re-make it. I believe Mark Stafford said something a year or two ago to the effect that so long as they had the CAD files for the part somewhere, "no one's ever really gone", hence the return of the goat mold, and the gamorrean. 

That said, if the physical mold is destroyed, the cost to re-introduce it is the same as a "new mold", so there's no cost to improving/altering the part in the CAD files before remaking the mold. This is assumably what they did with the SBD torsos (and arms? I've heard the arms are very slightly changed but I can't see it myself).

50 minutes ago, Minishark2000 said:

It's a pretty perfect mold but does lego still do those rubberized molds that they were so addicted to doing around 2012-2014? I remember we got so many aliens around that time with the rubber parts, also other themes had rubberized pieces too. But yeah you are right it probably was a fake leak especially since it was so long ago, probably way before production could realistically start of the set (probably hasn't even started now?)

While the leak was almost certainly fake (There's really no way to verify it, either. Even if the set releases with the 2013 max rebo head, someone could still just have taken their old max rebo and pretended it was a leak), I wouldn't be surprised if some level of production had started. We've had legitimate figure leaks a good few months before a set's release date before.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, GlacierPhoenix said:

I would guess some were in earlier stages of development where they're more subject to change than something that may be near final. 

Maybe, but my point was why would they already start inquiring about prices two years ahead of a set’s intended release?

Also, if we look at the release dates of the confirmed sets from the survey leak, it’s quite apparent we still have enough space in this year’s release schedule to fit the remaining four:

• Sorting Hat: March
• Medieval Town Square: March
• Snow White Cottage: March
• Gotham City Skyline: April
• Barad-dûr: June
• Simba: Summer
• The Burrow: Autumn
• X-Mansion: unknown

The Sailbarge could easily be released in October or November, and there’s also plenty of space left for Donald, the Maleficent dragon, and the Deku Tree  Especially when you consider that three of the confirmed survey leak sets get released in March

Edited January 11, 2024 by BrickBob Studpants

[Chazinski]

Haven't been in the loop for a while so I apologize in advance for the question if it's already answered: 

Do we know what sets are retiring this year? We pretty much know the lineup of new sets (to some extent); but I'd like to know what's gonna retire so I could buy some "extras" for later 

Thanks!

[HothFan1987]

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Lucasfilm aren’t catering specifically to you though  For instance, I don’t care one iota about Andor and I’d never say that the existence of a second season is a disappointment, because I know plenty of people are looking forward to that

“Why is [company] making [product I personally dislike]? They should make [product I personally like]!” isn’t that great of an argument, no matter whether we’re talking about movies, shows, or LEGO sets

I never said they were catering specifically for me, which would be a ridiculously stupid thing for any one to think. I also never questioned why they were making it (in fact I specifically said it wasn’t surprising). I also didn’t criticise anyone’s who excited about the news, or who likes the show, because my view on it shouldn’t impact anyone else’s enjoyment of it. I only stated my opinion, which I’m entitled to, and expressed a preference for one set I’d like to see from it and then answered a follow up question. Wanting to see something you’d enjoy isnt an argument, it’s a preference. Every single one of us will have a preference over what shows or sets we want to be produced. It’s incredibly antagonistic and toxic to have a go at someone because they have a different opinion to you. 

Edited January 11, 2024 by HothFan1987

[Mandalorianknight]

Not to minimod, but I think everyone really needs to calm down. There's nothing wrong with disliking a project, and you can't really say one project or trilogy is objectively worse/better than another. Everyone can have their own opinions about what's most deserving of more sets, but no one can objectively state that x project is more deserving of sets than y project.

2 hours ago, Chazinski said:

Haven't been in the loop for a while so I apologize in advance for the question if it's already answered: 

Do we know what sets are retiring this year? We pretty much know the lineup of new sets (to some extent); but I'd like to know what's gonna retire so I could buy some "extras" for later 

Thanks!

Brickset has a list, but it seems like it's more speculative on their part based on around how long sets of that size run, rather than any confirmed info. I'd wait until later in the year to start buying your extra copies, unless you're really worried about a specific set.

[MKJoshA]

39 minutes ago, HothFan1987 said:

I never said they were catering specifically for me, which would be a ridiculously stupid thing for any one to think. I also never questioned why they were making it (in fact I specifically said it wasn’t surprising). I also didn’t criticise anyone’s who excited about the news, or who likes the show, because my view on it shouldn’t impact anyone else’s enjoyment of it. I only stated my opinion, which I’m entitled to, and expressed a preference for one set I’d like to see from it and then answered a follow up question. Wanting to see something you’d enjoy isnt an argument, it’s a preference. Every single one of us will have a preference over what shows or sets we want to be produced. It’s incredibly antagonistic and toxic to have a go at someone because they have a different opinion to you. 

Sorry, last one to post before I check in is the first to get quoted. So I'm quoting you but I'm referring to everyone who's off topic.

You're welcome to your opinion, but please share your opinion in the appropriate thread. If there isn't one, make one.

The Lego Star Wars set discussion thread is not the place to argue over Lego's business practices or Disney/Lucas's film decisions.

[Chazinski]

51 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Brickset has a list, but it seems like it's more speculative on their part based on around how long sets of that size run, rather than any confirmed info. I'd wait until later in the year to start buying your extra copies, unless you're really worried about a specific set.

This list is very helpful, thanks! Just wanted a rough idea of what sets I should keep an eye out for in the long run. Much appreciated 

[Kaijumeister]

Something interesting on IG, michael_bricks_f0rever and tandnbricks are reporting a Battle on Peridea set coming this year, including:

- Thrawn

- Enoch

- Morgan Elsbeth (probably a full nightsister variant?)

- Ahsoka the White

- Ezra Bridger

Now that is exciting!

Edited January 11, 2024 by Kaijumeister

[Mandalorianknight]

22 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

Something interesting on IG, michael_bricks_f0rever and tandnbricks are reporting a Battle on Peridea set coming this year, including:

- Thrawn

- Enoch

- Morgan Elsbeth (probably a full nightsister variant?)

- Ahsoka the White

- Ezra Bridger

Now that is exciting!