LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Stefanisimo]

38 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Don’t know if anyone else has noticed but the rumoured price for 75399 was $80 and now that set is rumoured to be the Uwing. Which if true given adjustment for inflation is going to be a bit smaller than the previous one 

which I think is ok as they’ve done quite well when it comes to downsizing some ships in recent years

Given that 70$ in 2024 yields a small Sith Inflitrator I am cautiously optimistic what they can do with 80$ next year for a ship as big as the U-wing. We will be lucky if a single crate fits in the compartment below 

 

9 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

2015 UCS Slave I owners breathing a collective sigh of relief. We may not get another UCS Boba Fett’s Slave I 

See you in 2035 

I am yet to build my sealed one, but both versions will look incredible next to each other. Hopefully it's the same cockpit piece and scale.

[Mandalorianknight]

17 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Would love to see this for Ninjago as a point of comparison (don't bother going to the effort if you don't want to though, hehe).

Ninjago doesn't have a licensing fee, but it would be interesting to see. I personally am not a huge ninjago guy, but if you want to go through it, all I did was scroll brickset.

12 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

In what sense? Four characters are included in both sets, Han and Chewy are available in the Sarlacc Pit set, and the other three figs in Jabba‘s Palace wouldn‘t make sense in any other set. 

I agree the fig lineups are roughly comparable when put the way you do, but this is a much more expensive set, and it's figure count still has to be augmented by an $80 expansion pack.

9 hours ago, commdr_neyo said:

It appears a new U-Wing is coming next year, according to Childish Landino 

I was gonna do the "What do I sacrifice" speech but @CloneCommando99's outdone me.

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Has to be an Andor S2 tie-in set then  

I agree, though I don't think it necessarily means it'll be advertised as such. It's possible it's a Rogue One set serving as a loose tie-in in the way they did the suicide squad characters in 2016 for example.

8 hours ago, Horation said:

What I am interested is showing that people are refusing to buy other brands' products. I've never heard of Koby, but I know Cobi isn't too bad, so why not give 'em a chance? 

Yes it is that black and white, the point is you are making up excuses for why you don't buy from competitors, surely there's a license/theme which interests you elsewhere...

This is absurd, man. What is this scenario where people secretly harbor a desire to buy from the 3P brands?

And no, not to my knowledge. I've spoken elsewhere about how after picking up Transformers and Dune lego has just about every license I'd want sets for. 

Even if, say, I was a big Halo fan but didn't want to buy the mega bloks sets, you're still drawing up a clearly false scenario in which the only options are "endorse lego's QC issues/price hikes" and "buy other plastic brick brands". Again, if lego loses revenue, whether that money's going to Black Series, Studio Series, Classified Series, knockoff CMF series, or completely out of the collectible business, lego's still losing the revenue and would want to find a way to get it back.

3 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

UCS Jango’s Slave One - May 2025. 

Highly detailed Jango Fett and Young Boba minifigures. 

75409 €239.99. 

Instagram: @maxbautde. Very reliable. 

That came out of the leftmost field I've ever seen, completely unexpected. I would have thought for sure they'd do a jedi starfighter or clone starfighter before going into Jango's Slave One, but sure.

4 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

2015 UCS Slave I owners breathing a collective sigh of relief. We may not get another UCS Boba Fett’s Slave I 

As a UCS Slave I owner, I'd be happy to see a new Boba Fett one. The Slave One's one of my favorite SW ships just for how different and dynamic it looks.

I do wonder if this is going to be a UCS Jango Fett's Slave One or a UCS Jango Fett's Starship. I really do hope the former- I think the name's fine even on the standard products, but for an 18+ set "Jango Fett's starship" sounds a little absurd. 

[Kit Figsto]

On 9/22/2024 at 2:35 AM, Lobot said:

The UCS AT-AT was initially intended to be £750 (in the UK) but after a lot of complaints it was reduced to £700 (and then later increased to the current £735).  It's the only time that I've seen a set lowered due negative feedback from customers. 

I believe that the 332nd BP was the same way.  The original rumored retail price was $26.99, which was quickly dropped to $19.99 before the set hit shelves.

There was also something where Target in the US had the Indiana Jones Temple Escape listed at $79.99, which was switched to $39.99 shortly before the set appeared on shelves, but the assumption was that some wires got crossed somewhere and it was listed under the Temple of Doom price, as that set was supposedly $79.99.  

 

The U-Wing rumor is great.  I have the original, so I don't need a new one, but anything remotely Rogue One related is a massive win in my book.  I'm curious if it'll tie into Andor or if it'll be actually from Rogue One. 

Jango's Slave I sounds like a great UCS, and $240 doesn't sound bad for it, assuming it's a similar minifig-scale to the last one.  I'd be curious if they go the Captain Rex route and give us a cheaper set with Jango Fett in it at some point down the line.

[ForgedInLego]

On 9/18/2024 at 7:25 PM, ForgedInLego said:

Updated the news tab  wow, that wave is supremely uninteresting. But a U wing / Tie Reaper for $80? 2025 Lego? you will get a minfigless diorama and you will like it! 

Did somebody say we're so back? I have never been so happy to eat my own words 

[Stefanisimo]

Can't wait for Jango to reuse ESB Boba prints, because, hey, it is the same armor after all.

[Meaf]

Still not entirely sure that the Plo Koon Starfighter rumor is legit, but if it is I'm 100% buying it. The original was one of my first Lego Star Wars sets so it's quite nostalgic for me, and an updated Plo Koon (and maybe some of his clones 👀) would be excellent. Just hoping it's not too overpriced.

[Alex_South]

Plo koon's fighter is way too many Tirangles on the market at one time haha

I am excited about the updated news on Ahsoka's interceptor, that set keeps sounding better and better.

Jango UCS is really interesting, I would love for a Freedom One set to finally have a decent interior, and since it has young boba the cockpit should be able to seat both of them, and the entry won't have stupid carbonated block so they can actually turn it into the boarding ramp and maybe have a decent interior with a place for Jango to put his jetpack and pistolas and helmet.

[Lego Nostalgia]

I'm a bit worried that the Dioramas are gone for good, I hope the AT-AT Pilot Helmet is not true, I WANT A DUEL ON MUSTAFAR DIORAMA.

I was talking about wanting a new UCS Slave I a few days ago on here lol but Jango's is alright too.

Plo Koon's Starfighter would be a great way to include P2 Wolffe, He and Plo Koon were teased in that Mobile Game for Lego.

36 minutes ago, Stefanisimo said:

Can't wait for Jango to reuse ESB Boba prints, because, hey, it is the same armor after all.

We can always rely on UCS sets that are 200$+ for Arm prints that are for characters that need them.

[Shiva]

9 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

A new U-Wing sounds excellent. I mussed the first one. Plus, being based on Andor s2, it will undoubtedly include K2-SO which I also sadly missed and have badly wanted. It being a smaller size will also be appreciated because the original one was way too big in my opinion. I'm glad we're getting another Andor set, fingers-crossed it's a positive sign that a Fondor Haulcraft could happen.

Do you mean 75155, as in too big? Or have I missed some U-Wing?

[Horation]

[Redacted disrespect of pointers]

Edited September 30, 2024 by Horation
pointer-based redaction

[Lego Nostalgia]

Anyone want to bet that Lego will reuse Boba Fett's head from the mech for Jango ?

[JohnTPT17]

Well... A big blue Slave 1 sounds pretty neat. Though hopefully we get a Jango Fett Microfighter next winter...

[ToaDraco]

Okay, these are starting to sound too good to be true.

-UCS Jango Fett's Slave I

-Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter

-Andor's U-Wing

-Ashoka's Jedi Interceptor(with a new cockpit design, Ashoka with short legs, R7 and a Clone Wars Anakin)

-ARC-170(with Captain Jag, Oddball, R4-P44 and a regular clone pilot)

If all of these leaks are legit, 2025 is starting off very strong. 

Edited September 24, 2024 by ToaDraco

[Swordy]

1 hour ago, Horation said:

Competition is the thing you forget, people like variety, that's not some sort of "secret desire", it's a well known fact. See, when it comes to cars people obviously see the value of competition, but now with plastic bricks, you are yourself acknowledging that you will either buy Lego or no one. Again, if Lego sees sales declining AND their competitors' sales not increasing, they will assume there is a general reduction of demand, the best way to punish them then is to buy from other makers. 

The flaw in your analogy is that other car manufacturers create big trucks. On the other hand, Megablocks ain’t doing Star Wars, and likely never will. If you wanna talk about the need of competition between plastic bricks, I’d think it best not to bring it up in a forum for one of LEGO’s exclusive licenses. It’s not just plastic bricks, as much as it is plastic minifigs and the promise of a detailed model created by top-level LEGO designers, neither of which Megablocks can offer. (I only refer to Megablocks as the generic not-LEGO plastic brick manufacturer.)

Let me propose this hypothetical, going along with your Ford analogy. Ford unveils a new big truck, loaded with all the new bells and whistles. The price is a 50% mark up from the previous year’s model. Meanwhile, Ford also offers alongside it an SUV, which is updated moderately from the previous year’s model, and priced with a reasonable mark-up in respect to inflation. People flock to the SUV, Ford notices, while dozens of dozens of “Big Trucks” don’t move off the lot.

The next year, Ford raises the price of the SUV, and lowers the price of the Big Truck to compensate for sales (the name is ridiculous and I don’t care). Ford observes that the Big Truck is sold out, while people seem uninterested in the SUV.

If Ford is smart, they’ll figure out that the reason people didn’t buy the Big Truck from the first year and the SUV from the second is because of the outrageous price of both, respectively. They don’t have access to Toyota’s sales, and they don’t need them to see what sells and what doesn’t within their own product lineup. (Besides, they aren’t making Toyotas, but Fords, which are different enough for the public to care.)

Another premise to consider is that Ford by year two might’ve sullied their image with ridiculous prices if they aren’t careful. The way to gain back the people who’ve stopped buying Ford products is to cultivate a consistent brand of affordability and trust of quality with their costumers.

To summarize: fans of LEGO should vote with their wallets to let the bean-counters at LEGO know how to better sell their own products The LEGO Group adapts as the market adapts.

[Meaf]

If the Plo Koon Starfighter rumor is real, I have to wonder what minifigures will come in it aside from him. It seems kind of strange to make a new set with and not include any of his clones, but most of the sets including clones that they've been putting out lately have been pretty clearly made with army building in mind. Maybe they'll just throw in Wolffe since most people would only need one of him, then put the regular troopers in a separate set later? Honestly though I wouldn't be totally surprised if the starfighter doesn't have any clones.

[TotoMagnus]

I‘m on the fence with a JF Slave 1 UCS. 
 

On the one hand, it could be an easy skip, since I own the Boba Fett one. 
 

On the other hand: The 75060 was my starting point for collecting Lego. So this new set would be a nice „romantic“ point to end my collection. Not on day 1, but maybe just before getting the EOL treatment. 
Will think about it and my collection: What I have, what I still want and what I keep. 

[CloneCommando99]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:25 AM, ForgedInLego said:

Updated the news tab  wow, that wave is supremely uninteresting. But a U wing / Tie Reaper for $80? 2025 Lego? you will get a minfigless diorama and you will like it! 

7 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

Did somebody say we're so back? I have never been so happy to eat my own words 

“We stand here amidst my achievement. Not yours!”

But yes. We are so unbelievably back!!!

 

U-Wing and ARC-170 are officially on my shopping list next year. 

2 hours ago, Swordy said:

Let me propose this hypothetical, going along with your Ford analogy. Ford unveils a new big truck, loaded with all the new bells and whistles. The price is a 50% mark up from the previous year’s model. Meanwhile, Ford also offers alongside it an SUV, which is updated moderately from the previous year’s model, and priced with a reasonable mark-up in respect to inflation. People flock to the SUV, Ford notices, while dozens of dozens of “Big Trucks” don’t move off the lot.

The next year, Ford raises the price of the SUV, and lowers the price of the Big Truck to compensate for sales (the name is ridiculous and I don’t care). Ford observes that the Big Truck is sold out, while people seem uninterested in the SUV.

If Ford is smart, they’ll figure out that the reason people didn’t buy the Big Truck from the first year and the SUV from the second is because of the outrageous price of both, respectively. They don’t have access to Toyota’s sales, and they don’t need them to see what sells and what doesn’t within their own product lineup. (Besides, they aren’t making Toyotas, but Fords, which are different enough for the public to care.)

Another premise to consider is that Ford by year two might’ve sullied their image with ridiculous prices if they aren’t careful. The way to gain back the people who’ve stopped buying Ford products is to cultivate a consistent brand of affordability and trust of quality with their costumers.

To summarize: fans of LEGO should vote with their wallets to let the bean-counters at LEGO know how to better sell their own products The LEGO Group adapts as the market adapts.

Well said. Truly an analogy on par with Aristotle.

Edited September 24, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[BrickBob Studpants]

…where are the mods? And I don‘t mean the ones from TBoBF  EB is a LEGO forum, so advocating to buy knock-offs should be off-topic by definition, no? It has nothing to do with SW either. SW discussions that have little to do with LEGO get shot down quickly, so the reverse should be true as well

[Llewop]

Is Obi Wans starfighter retiring this year and yodas one?

if not we are going to have 5 Jedi fighters on the shelves by the time we get to the summer. I’m a fan of them but it’s a bit overkill. Im kind of skeptical about this plo koon rumour just seems like to many unless it’s a complete redesign but still surely that could wait another year. And small minor complaint but all these Jedi fighters and republic fighters but they’ve got no one to go up against? We need a vulture droid or some kind of separatist fighter. OT we’ve always got TIE against rebels fighters. 

[BacktoBricks]

3 hours ago, Llewop said:

Is Obi Wans starfighter retiring this year and yodas one?

if not we are going to have 5 Jedi fighters on the shelves by the time we get to the summer. I’m a fan of them but it’s a bit overkill. Im kind of skeptical about this plo koon rumour just seems like to many unless it’s a complete redesign but still surely that could wait another year. And small minor complaint but all these Jedi fighters and republic fighters but they’ve got no one to go up against? We need a vulture droid or some kind of separatist fighter. OT we’ve always got TIE against rebels fighters. 

Yoda's is meant to be, but Obi-Wan's is supposedly not set to retire until the end of 2025. And I think originally it was said to be retiring at the end of 2023 and has then got pushed back a couple of times. Maybe they want Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter to be on the shelves at the same time as the UCS Jango's Slave 1 as despite their scale differences people may want to pick one up if purchasing the other, even if it's just to get the minifigures for the Kaminoan Scene.

That being said, it does seem a bit overkill to have so many Starfighters and I'm not taking Plo Koon's rumor as true just yet. However, maybe plans get made and things get juggled and it just turns out that we have so many starfighters in one go. At the end of the day they will all probably sell well regardless because they make good play sets for kids and they're often cheap enough for collectors to pick up just for the minifigures even if they do have an army of starfighters already.

[Lego Nostalgia]

7 hours ago, Meaf said:

If the Plo Koon Starfighter rumor is real, I have to wonder what minifigures will come in it aside from him. It seems kind of strange to make a new set with and not include any of his clones, but most of the sets including clones that they've been putting out lately have been pretty clearly made with army building in mind. Maybe they'll just throw in Wolffe since most people would only need one of him, then put the regular troopers in a separate set later? Honestly though I wouldn't be totally surprised if the starfighter doesn't have any clones.

Most likely just him and a droid however since the price increase I'd say we'll get another figure like Ahsoka and Jedi Bob's Starfighter, Wolffe would be perfect since him and Plo were teased in that mobile star wars lego game where Fox and Palpatine were first teased.

[MKJoshA]

10 hours ago, Horation said:

Replace Lego and Mega Bloks with Toyota and Ford, let's see how absurd this whole text becomes :

"This is absurd, man. What is this scenario where people secretly harbor a desire to buy from the other car brands?

And no, not to my knowledge. I've spoken elsewhere about how after making really big trucks like the F150 ford has just about every kind of vehicle I'd want. 

Even if, say, I was a big truck fan but didn't want to buy the F150, you're still drawing up a clearly false scenario in which the only options are "endorse Ford's QC issues/price hikes" and "buy other car brands". Again, if Ford loses revenue, whether that money's going to Toyota, Honda,etc... , or completely out of the car business, Ford's still losing the revenue and would want to find a way to get it back"

Competition is the thing you forget, people like variety, that's not some sort of "secret desire", it's a well known fact. See, when it comes to cars people obviously see the value of competition, but now with plastic bricks, you are yourself acknowledging that you will either buy Lego or no one. Again, if Lego sees sales declining AND their competitors' sales not increasing, they will assume there is a general reduction of demand, the best way to punish them then is to buy from other makers. 

 

8 hours ago, Swordy said:

The flaw in your analogy is that other car manufacturers create big trucks. On the other hand, Megablocks ain’t doing Star Wars, and likely never will. If you wanna talk about the need of competition between plastic bricks, I’d think it best not to bring it up in a forum for one of LEGO’s exclusive licenses. It’s not just plastic bricks, as much as it is plastic minifigs and the promise of a detailed model created by top-level LEGO designers, neither of which Megablocks can offer. (I only refer to Megablocks as the generic not-LEGO plastic brick manufacturer.)

Let me propose this hypothetical, going along with your Ford analogy. Ford unveils a new big truck, loaded with all the new bells and whistles. The price is a 50% mark up from the previous year’s model. Meanwhile, Ford also offers alongside it an SUV, which is updated moderately from the previous year’s model, and priced with a reasonable mark-up in respect to inflation. People flock to the SUV, Ford notices, while dozens of dozens of “Big Trucks” don’t move off the lot.

The next year, Ford raises the price of the SUV, and lowers the price of the Big Truck to compensate for sales (the name is ridiculous and I don’t care). Ford observes that the Big Truck is sold out, while people seem uninterested in the SUV.

If Ford is smart, they’ll figure out that the reason people didn’t buy the Big Truck from the first year and the SUV from the second is because of the outrageous price of both, respectively. They don’t have access to Toyota’s sales, and they don’t need them to see what sells and what doesn’t within their own product lineup. (Besides, they aren’t making Toyotas, but Fords, which are different enough for the public to care.)

Another premise to consider is that Ford by year two might’ve sullied their image with ridiculous prices if they aren’t careful. The way to gain back the people who’ve stopped buying Ford products is to cultivate a consistent brand of affordability and trust of quality with their costumers.

To summarize: fans of LEGO should vote with their wallets to let the bean-counters at LEGO know how to better sell their own products The LEGO Group adapts as the market adapts.

This is the Star Wars part of the forum. This discussion started around a Star Wars set, but has derailed into a topic about brands and economics. Please continue it in a different part of the forum.

[Swordy]

35 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

 

This is the Star Wars part of the forum. This discussion started around a Star Wars set, but has derailed into a topic about brands and economics. Please continue it in a different part of the forum.

Just woke up to witness the damage, lol.

In my defense, all of what I said relates to LEGO fans in any theme, and since the discussion was started in LSW, it was continued in LSW. Replace terms like “Big Truck” and “SUV” with “Jedi Starfighter” and “ARC-170,” respectively, and you’ve got something applicable to LSW. Likewise, one could replace each respectively with “Batmobile” and “Batwing,” if this were in the DC Aslume, so I should’ve pointed out the connections to LSW.

I’ll drop the discussion. Thank you for the warning.

[Swordy]

9 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

 

-Ashoka's Jedi Interceptor(with a new cockpit design, Ashoka with short legs, R7 and a Clone Wars Anakin)

-

 

I’m getting whiplash, lol. That tidbit in particular seems too good to be true. If it’s the same guy reporting all of that, I have to wonder how true all of it is.

[Old Master]

Jango's Slave 1 is the most automatic lego purchase maybe ever for me. I've wanted one since I was 7!

(I'm 24 now for context)

Also, I know there hasn't been a relevant GWP for May 4 since the Landspeeder with the kitchen, but my goodness this would be a great year to bring that back with Dex's Diner.