LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Sneakguest]

On 9/17/2024 at 11:12 AM, MKJoshA said:

One could argue that it's wokeness/political correctness that made Lego go with dual-molded legs giving Leia a pair of shorts. One could also argue that Lego is catering to a more conservative audience by covering up Leia's legs. We don't know which one it is so let's stop discussing it. Anytime we try to analyze whether a decision is too woke or not woke enough it leads to getting off topic and more political than a Lego forum needs to be. Lego (and Disney) have added that discussion to their products so the conversation itself is not banned. But unless we have a statement from Lego saying why they went with dual-molded shorts for Leia we need to not discuss it here.

Sorry, saw this now… will drop further discussipn from my part.

On 9/17/2024 at 2:25 PM, BrickBob Studpants said:

To me, the scoreboard looks like this:

Upgrades:

• Leia (better hairpiece and dual-moulded legs)
• R2
• Kithaba

Entirely new:

• Wooof
• Wizam

The same/very similar:

• Gamorrean
• 3PO
• Max Rebo
• Jabba

Downgrades:

• Salacious B. Crumb (I usually like the coloured eyes, but they look too creepy here)
• Bib Fortuna. The new prints are awesome, but the headpiece doesn‘t work.

All in all, I don‘t think we can complain too much  Especially since UCS sets rarely have more than two figures.

Do we have it confirmed if jabba is the same or not? This might even be the determinant to buy the new set or not.

[CallumPears]

11 minutes ago, Sneakguest said:

Do we have it confirmed if jabba is the same or not? This might even be the determinant to buy the new set or not.

He's got different printing. Solid Brix does a comparison in his review.

Same mould though- apparently it even still says 2011 on the inside. That makes sense though since it's already perfect.

[Yperio_Bricks]

38 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

He's got different printing. Solid Brix does a comparison in his review.

Same mould though- apparently it even still says 2011 on the inside. That makes sense though since it's already perfect.

When was the mould used the last time? 2013? People in this forum claimed that moulds get destroyed when not used for 5 years

[CallumPears]

7 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

When was the mould used the last time? 2013? People in this forum claimed that moulds get destroyed when not used for 5 years

Maybe special ones get kept around for longer? I doubt it's a hard "welp, it's been 4 years and 364 days, guess we gotta throw this out tomorrow". 

 

Also I mentioned in a previous post about wanting more minifigures in the barge that Jabba is a big figure so a direct comparison to the Cantina would need to account for that.

Someone on Reddit just reminded me that the Cantina includes a dewback, so the barge is even worse than I thought in comparison! 

Edited September 19, 2024 by CallumPears

[Yperio_Bricks]

2 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

Maybe special ones get kept around for longer? I doubt it's a hard "welp, it's been 4 years and 364 days, guess we gotta throw this out tomorrow". 

When moulds are as expensive to create as reported, why would you destroy a mould that is still perfectly fine for production? I never understood this. But i don't know where the information comes from that says moulds get destroyed after 5 years when not used.

[Samppu]

40 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

When moulds are as expensive to create as reported, why would you destroy a mould that is still perfectly fine for production? I never understood this. But i don't know where the information comes from that says moulds get destroyed after 5 years when not used.

The information comes from a documentary depicting Lego factory and a  designer. Don't remember details nor bother to find it out just for reference, but that's what they said.

The simple reason for destroying the molds is that it costs money to keep them; they do require a respectful amount of space after all. Additionally if you never get rid of the old ones, they will eventually pile up...

Primarily it is about production optimization. If simply standing in a stock costs you money, it is just a question of time when those running costs cross the cost of simply remaking the mold from scratch. Hence molds which do not see use for an extended period of time nor is there an incentive to use them in the near future, are sensible to be destroyed from the perspective of cost optimization, I suppose.

Perhaps they make some exceptions? For example, they might have held the mold of Jabba in reserve in case another hutt had appeared in the new movies. Though with that logic one would expect the same treatment for other alien molds, too. So either Jabba was indeed an exception or the new mold is simply copied on the basis of the previous?

Edited September 19, 2024 by Samppu

[TeddytheSpoon]

29 minutes ago, Samppu said:

The information comes from a documentary depicting Lego factory and a  designer. Don't remember details nor bother to find it out just for reference, but that's what they said.

The simple reason for destroying the molds is that it costs money to keep them; they do require a respectful amount of space after all. Additionally if you never get rid of the old ones, they will eventually pile up...

Primarily it is about production optimization. If simply standing in a stock costs you money, it is just a question of time when those running costs cross the cost of simply remaking the mold from scratch. Hence molds which do not see use for an extended period of time nor is there an incentive to use them in the near future, are sensible to be destroyed from the perspective of cost optimization, I suppose.

Perhaps they make some exceptions? For example, they might have held the mold of Jabba in reserve in case another hutt had appeared in the new movies. Though with that logic one would expect the same treatment for other alien molds, too. So either Jabba was indeed an exception or the new mold is simply copied on the basis of the previous?

I would speculate that it's done on a case-by-case basis, and that 5 years out of use would the threshold to see if its worth keeping or not. With a character as prominent as Jabba, there's a good chance that TLG were going to use it again, and as @Yperio_Bricks said, no reason to throw it out if it's still perfectly OK (and they don't think they can significantly improve the design). That's just an educated guess, though.

[ArrowBricks]

I’m really wish there was a play scale Sail Barge. Fingers crossed the design process of the UCS version has inspired and improved the 2013 play scale version so they do it in the next year or two…

[Yperio_Bricks]

Just now, ArrowBricks said:

I’m really wish there was a play scale Sail Barge. Fingers crossed the design process of the UCS version has inspired and improved the 2013 play scale version so they do it in the next year or two…

That would be great! I was hoping the same for the Cantina, but no luck so far. I really thought they would at least reuse some of the aliens from that set.

[Meaf]

1 hour ago, TeddytheSpoon said:

I would speculate that it's done on a case-by-case basis, and that 5 years out of use would the threshold to see if its worth keeping or not. With a character as prominent as Jabba, there's a good chance that TLG were going to use it again, and as @Yperio_Bricks said, no reason to throw it out if it's still perfectly OK (and they don't think they can significantly improve the design). That's just an educated guess, though.

Yeah this makes the most sense imo. With a mold for a specific character like Jabba, they know it's basically guaranteed to be used again given his role in the movies. Probably doesn't make financial sense to toss it out if they knew he was gonna show up again sooner or later, although that does make me wonder if perhaps Lego had plans to include him in another set before this that ended up getting scrapped.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Another factor is the maintenance of the moulds. You can‘t just let them sit in a drawer for 10 years and immediately use them again. My guess is that they also consider how likely they‘re gonna reuse them in the long run.

Some moulds are short-lived from the getgo (like the ones for all the specialised Trolls pieces) while others are very likely to return sooner or later. As others have pointed out, a new Jabba was always gonna get released at some point. Maybe they took special care of that mould, cleaning it daily to await its glorious comeback

[Omand]

No inside info here myself, but I think the possibility of a planned set with Jabba that was scrapped is probable.  How probable, well, that would only something Lego knows.

That said, it is just a guess for all of us.  Someone with the pieces can correct me if I am wrong, but was not the Dewback big mini mould changed between appearing in various Cantina sets, even though those were only about 5 year apart?

Barring someone from Lego speaking out, we will likely never know.

Cheers :)

[Lego_Minecraft_Goat]

Who wants a new Millennium Falcon Polybag, because there seems to be a new one coming in 2025.

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, Omand said:

No inside info here myself, but I think the possibility of a planned set with Jabba that was scrapped is probable.  How probable, well, that would only something Lego knows.

That said, it is just a guess for all of us.  Someone with the pieces can correct me if I am wrong, but was not the Dewback big mini mould changed between appearing in various Cantina sets, even though those were only about 5 year apart?

Barring someone from Lego speaking out, we will likely never know.

Cheers :)

Was there not a rumoured throne room diorama supposed to be coming last year or earlier? Or have I misremembered 

[Yperio_Bricks]

1 minute ago, Llewop said:

Was there not a rumoured throne room diorama supposed to be coming last year or earlier? Or have I misremembered 

Yes, there was some talk about a throne room diorama at the end of '22 and beginning of '23, but I guess the diorama turned out to be 75352 Emperor's Throne Room Diorama.

[CloneCommando99]

21 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

Updated the news tab  wow, that wave is supremely uninteresting. But a U wing / Tie Reaper for $80? 2025 Lego? you will get a minfigless diorama and you will like it! 

I wouldn’t be opposed to a ISD bridge diorama.

2 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Yes, there was some talk about a throne room diorama at the end of '22 and beginning of '23, but I guess the diorama turned out to be 75352 Emperor's Throne Room Diorama.

Intriguing. 
 

 

I don’t get why Jango Fett is getting a helmet slot. Yes, he’s a cool character. But his helmet design isn’t exactly exciting enough to warrant a 3rd Mandalorian Helmet. Sabine or even Bo Katan on the other hand…

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Lego_Minecraft_Goat said:

Who wants a new Millennium Falcon Polybag, because there seems to be a new one coming in 2025.

Wooo, yeah baby, that's what I've been waiting for, that's what it's all about...

Honestly it makes sense, it has been awhile since the last wide-release falcon polybag, it's one of the most iconic ships, etc.

[starlego98]

Also we will get an updated han solo in carbonite mould? , the last time was 5 years ago

[CallumPears]

28 minutes ago, starlego98 said:

Also we will get an updated han solo in carbonite mould? , the last time was 5 years ago

Yeah I'm very surprised we haven't had one with the new hairpiece yet. And the face print is still based on the really old design too, without any cheek lines. 

 

Knowing LEGO nowadays it'll just be a 1x2x5 with a sticker on it 

Edited September 19, 2024 by CallumPears

[AD_Bricks]

3 hours ago, Llewop said:

Was there not a rumoured throne room diorama supposed to be coming last year or earlier? Or have I misremembered 

 

3 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Yes, there was some talk about a throne room diorama at the end of '22 and beginning of '23, but I guess the diorama turned out to be 75352 Emperor's Throne Room Diorama.

I think we figured out that some leakers did actually see a blurry image of one at some point, which is where the initial rumour came from, and the general consensus seemed to be that there was one in the works that got scrapped.

[Lego Nostalgia]

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I wouldn’t be opposed to a ISD bridge diorama.

Intriguing. 
 

 

I don’t get why Jango Fett is getting a helmet slot. Yes, he’s a cool character. But his helmet design isn’t exactly exciting enough to warrant a 3rd Mandalorian Helmet. Sabine or even Bo Katan on the other hand…

This might be our only chance to get an Anakin vs Obi Wan duel diorama however in 2026 I'd love an ISD Bridge Diorama

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Wooo, yeah baby, that's what I've been waiting for, that's what it's all about...

Honestly it makes sense, it has been awhile since the last wide-release falcon polybag, it's one of the most iconic ships, etc.

I'll take that rather than a Luke's Landspeeder 

We need a new MTT and Snowspeeder, COME ON LEGO

Anyone think 2025 or 2026, we'll get a new Slave I UCS ? the old one is good but the dark red in that is brittle so we need a new one, Is it too early for a new one to come out ? did the last one come out in 2015 ?

3 hours ago, starlego98 said:

Also we will get an updated han solo in carbonite mould? , the last time was 5 years ago

1x2x5 brick with Han Solo sticker, best we can get

[Flawless Cowboy]

31 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Anyone think 2025 or 2026, we'll get a new Slave I UCS ? the old one is good but the dark red in that is brittle so we need a new one, Is it too early for a new one to come out ? did the last one come out in 2015 ?

Lego replaces broken pieces but the brittleness of dark red and brown has zero bearing on Lego deciding to redo a set. The Slave I retired at the end of 2018. To put into perspective, it was on shelves alongside the UCS Y-Wing. Doubt we’re getting a remake soon, there’s many remakes that are older and more deserving. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 minute ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Lego replaces broken pieces but the brittleness of dark red and brown has zero bearing on Lego deciding to redo a set. The Slave I retired at the end of 2018. To put into perspective, it was on shelves alongside the UCS Y-Wing. Doubt we’re getting a remake soon, there’s many remakes that are older and more deserving. 

There's some Dark Red pieces in that set that only came in that set in that color sadly

I'm just saying I don't want the old one for that reason nothing to do with Lego

It needs an update IMO, The old UCS X-Wing came out in 2013 and we got one last year

10 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

When moulds are as expensive to create as reported, why would you destroy a mould that is still perfectly fine for production? I never understood this. But i don't know where the information comes from that says moulds get destroyed after 5 years when not used.

It's really interesting how Max Rebo and Jabba are the same mould considering they were last seen in 2013, always thought once they stop making a certain character with a mould they stop it altogether

[Flawless Cowboy]

5 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

There's some Dark Red pieces in that set that only came in that set in that color sadly

I'm just saying I don't want the old one for that reason nothing to do with Lego

It needs an update IMO, The old UCS X-Wing came out in 2013 and we got one last year

You start counting from retirement dates, not release dates. Also, the X-Wing is the most iconic starfighter in Star Wars. It’ll get special treatment long before other ships, which is why it’s the first UCS set to receive two remakes. The Slave I is not at that level of popularity. 

Edited September 20, 2024 by Flawless Cowboy

[Lego Nostalgia]

Just now, Flawless Cowboy said:

You start counting from retirement dates, not release dates. 

Oh, my bad

I never thought I'd see the 2019 Falcon retiring this year, It's been with us for so long lol

I wonder if they still have the Wampa and Taun Taun mould ? Was last seen in 2016