LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[CloneCommando99]

I’m guessing that there’s no chance of the Rebels vs Imps getting a price decrease. Since it’s a Lego exclusive.

[Alex_South]

can someone explain to me what the named characters in the ARC set would mean in terms of helmets, wouldn't they all still just be normal clone pilot helmets?

i looked the characters up and they don't seem to have custom phase 2 pilot helmets, is it unique markings? named or not, I just hope the set has 3 clone pilots.

[ForgedInLego]

1 minute ago, Alex_South said:

can someone explain to me what the named characters in the ARC set would mean in terms of helmets, wouldn't they all still just be normal clone pilot helmets?

i looked the characters up and they don't seem to have custom phase 2 pilot helmets, is it unique markings? named or not, I just hope the set has 3 clone pilots.

They will all (presumably) have identical legs, bodies, heads, and the same ROTS clone pilot helmet mold, the helmet will just have different prints.

Oddball has a yellow symbol on the forehead, Jag has a lot of blue markings and was featured in the 2010 ARC-170, the last one will be one of a couple designs of unnamed pilot

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I’m guessing that there’s no chance of the Rebels vs Imps getting a price decrease. Since it’s a Lego exclusive.

There's a chance. The Holiday Falcon set was at like 1/3 off in its last few weeks of availability, as were the Hoth Rebel and Clone 3-figure packs the year prior (though those last 2 were rarely in stock at the discounted price- I managed to get an order for 2 of the Hoth packs and one of them got lost in transit and they couldn't replace it due to being out of stock )

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[CloneCommando99]

18 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

There's a chance. The Holiday Falcon set was at like 1/3 off in its last few weeks of availability, as were the Hoth Rebel and Clone 3-figure packs the year prior (though those last 2 were rarely in stock at the discounted price- I managed to get an order for 2 of the Hoth packs and one of them got lost in transit and they couldn't replace it due to being out of stock )

But then I would be risking it being out of stock and not being able to get one at all.

 

Is the retirement date still Jan 1st? Or was that false?

[CallumPears]

3 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

But then I would be risking it being out of stock and not being able to get one at all.

 

Is the retirement date still Jan 1st? Or was that false?

Yeah that's definitely a risk. And this one's definitely going to be more popular than the Holiday Falcon.

 

I guess we hope for double points and a GWP to soften it a little. 

[Legoman123]

I am kind of disappointed with the interior to the sail barge to be honest.  I really thought we'd get some different rooms and maybe a bit more space. especially in Jabba's part. They didn't even include the room above Jabba's room. 

[Alex_South]

On 9/20/2024 at 9:24 AM, ForgedInLego said:

They will all (presumably) have identical legs, bodies, heads, and the same ROTS clone pilot helmet mold, the helmet will just have different prints.

Oddball has a yellow symbol on the forehead, Jag has a lot of blue markings and was featured in the 2010 ARC-170, the last one will be one of a couple designs of unnamed pilot

Thank you for clearing that up for me, in that case i think the rumor could be true, a couple minor print changes and the good will from fans for having more named characters, but for someone like me who just wants pilots it still works.

4 hours ago, Legoman123 said:

I am kind of disappointed with the interior to the sail barge to be honest.  I really thought we'd get some different rooms and maybe a bit more space. especially in Jabba's part. They didn't even include the room above Jabba's room. 

Yeah Jang rips this set apart, and I am in full support of his opinion.

[STARHAWK]

8 hours ago, Legoman123 said:

I am kind of disappointed with the interior to the sail barge to be honest.  I really thought we'd get some different rooms and maybe a bit more space. especially in Jabba's part. They didn't even include the room above Jabba's room. 

Thats because its not big enough. It should have been bigger. That why i have to build my own instead of purchasing this one. They simply recreated the Hasbro Haslab version in Lego and even slapped the 500 USD price tag on it. 3.75" collectors were glad to receive such a big vehicle after while , but lego is smaller and thus there is possibility to create the interior from crossection book and movie.

I would have no problem giving them 500 Eur if the barge was bigger and with more figs ...

[Horation]

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[MaximillianRebo]

Just curious, were there a lot of complaints about the AT-AT price when it released? I don't remember there being as much discourse around the price of that set - apart from that it's high, it's very high - but people seemed to roll with it more so than what's being said about the Sail Barge price. I ask because the PPP is roughly the same - 12.5 for the AT-AT vs 12.7 for the Sail Barge.

Also has it been confirmed by anyone reliable that the Rebel Speeder/Imperial Dropship set it a) a Lego exclusive and b) only available for three months, or is this Instagram speculation repeated as fact?

[Lobot]

4 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

Just curious, were there a lot of complaints about the AT-AT price when it released? I don't remember there being as much discourse around the price of that set - apart from that it's high, it's very high - but people seemed to roll with it more so than what's being said about the Sail Barge price. I ask because the PPP is roughly the same - 12.5 for the AT-AT vs 12.7 for the Sail Barge.

The UCS AT-AT was initially intended to be £750 (in the UK) but after a lot of complaints it was reduced to £700 (and then later increased to the current £735).  It's the only time that I've seen a set lowered due negative feedback from customers. 

I've said it before, but LEGO's recent pricing of Star Wars is getting ridiculous, and it's almost like they're trying to push them as much as possible for the sake of it.  I'm comfortable financially, and have a very understanding wife(!), so I can buy any sets that I want, but I'm starting to actively spend less as a matter of principle.  I used to collect all of the UCS sets (and often buy them at RRP as soon as they were available) but that's stopped and I've now forced myself to wait for a decent sale, which has taken the enjoyment out of the hobby for me.  LEGO hasn't ever been cheap, but it always struck me as good value - but it's certainly not anymore.  Hopefully they'll have a re-think at some point.

[FullBrickDev]

1 hour ago, Lobot said:

The UCS AT-AT was initially intended to be £750 (in the UK) but after a lot of complaints it was reduced to £700 (and then later increased to the current £735).  It's the only time that I've seen a set lowered due negative feedback from customers. 

I've said it before, but LEGO's recent pricing of Star Wars is getting ridiculous, and it's almost like they're trying to push them as much as possible for the sake of it.  I'm comfortable financially, and have a very understanding wife(!), so I can buy any sets that I want, but I'm starting to actively spend less as a matter of principle.  I used to collect all of the UCS sets (and often buy them at RRP as soon as they were available) but that's stopped and I've now forced myself to wait for a decent sale, which has taken the enjoyment out of the hobby for me.  LEGO hasn't ever been cheap, but it always struck me as good value - but it's certainly not anymore.  Hopefully they'll have a re-think at some point.

I do wonder when we will hit the point where they are asking too much and it really starts affecting sales. The current prices are quite ridiculous, even if they're "adult sets". The high price in addition to the obvious blunders such as not including UCS C-3P0 with the dual molded leg in the Sail Barge are starting to eat away at me. Including UCS C-3P0 wouldn't cost them too much (likely pennies, although I have no data on this), and I'm sure the designers would have liked to include him in the set, but got likely rejected because they have a minifigure budget that they have to follow strictly. 

[Lobot]

I've never really understood the differing pricing of some sets, but here's a good example of how awful LEGO Star Wars has become:

• Indiana Jones 77013: 933 grams, 585 parts, 4 minifigures, UK RRP £34.99
• Star Wars 75396: 814 grams, 541 parts, 6 minifigures, UK RRP £69.99

I don't understand how they can possibly justify that. Even if you factor in a small additional 'premium' for the Star Wars licensing, plus the two extra minifigures, the Desert Skiff shouldn't have been any more than £50.  If anyone from LEGO is reading this, I'd really appreciate an explanation! 
 

[MKJoshA]

3 hours ago, Lobot said:

I've said it before, but LEGO's recent pricing of Star Wars is getting ridiculous, and it's almost like they're trying to push them as much as possible for the sake of it.  I'm comfortable financially, and have a very understanding wife(!), so I can buy any sets that I want, but I'm starting to actively spend less as a matter of principle.  I used to collect all of the UCS sets (and often buy them at RRP as soon as they were available) but that's stopped and I've now forced myself to wait for a decent sale, which has taken the enjoyment out of the hobby for me.  LEGO hasn't ever been cheap, but it always struck me as good value - but it's certainly not anymore.  Hopefully they'll have a re-think at some point.

This is very well said.

Lego is no longer a good value and I would argue it's becoming less and less of a premium product. I'll never be able to bring myself to buy 3rd party. But the quality of Lego has gone down not up. Just look at the professional pictures of the Barge. You can see the ugly injection mold points in the pictures used on the very box of the set! And then you have pieces breaking, pieces missing more frequently, and drastic variations in color that have gotten more prevalent. Lego has corrected course before, I hope they are listening and do so again soon.

[Kaijumeister]

Here I am just hoping that we eventually get some less obscenely priced UCS / MBS sets in the future that are still relatively scaled to minifigures like the Cantina / Cloud City / Slave I etc. They really hit the sweet spot of being good ‘premium’ sets that offered a good build experience without requiring their own dedicated shelves to display for the most part. 

Kinda sucks that as things stand, the ‘bigger’ UCS sets currently tend to be the minifigure-scaled ones and the ‘smaller’ sets are the oversized ships like the X-Wing and TIEs. I do hope Lego finds a middle ground for this soon.

Shoutout to Jang for his articulate and reasonable takes on these sets. He continues to be my favourite Lego YouTuber by a mile.

[BacktoBricks]

5 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

This is very well said.

Lego is no longer a good value and I would argue it's becoming less and less of a premium product. I'll never be able to bring myself to buy 3rd party. But the quality of Lego has gone down not up. Just look at the professional pictures of the Barge. You can see the ugly injection mold points in the pictures used on the very box of the set! And then you have pieces breaking, pieces missing more frequently, and drastic variations in color that have gotten more prevalent. Lego has corrected course before, I hope they are listening and do so again soon.

This totally. I've cut back drastically on what I collect when it comes to Lego because of price and quality. I know I'm just one consumer, but I'd say I've probably cut back at least 50% compared to a couple of years ago and that chunk is all basically Star Wars. I can no longer justify the price for a product that is becoming less than premium. I think all Lego is having more faults with breaking, missing pieces etc, but you only have to look at the new Fortnite sets to see the blatant discrepancy between the value of Star Wars sets and other Lego products both in terms of price and figure quality and detail. Anybody getting into Lego through Fortnite is going to get a shock if they then want to expand into the hobby and I don't know how Lego thinks that will be a good look from a consumer point of view. Lego says this new greener plastic initiative will be coming from its bottom line and not from the consumer, but I can't help but think there has been some extra price increases and corner cuttings in the past year at least to help ease the blow, measures that may not be obvious to casual buyers or those just getting in to the hobby but is for longer term collectors such as a lot of us.

I was never going to buy the Sail Barge, because whilst I would have been all over it a few years ago and bought it for the minifigures and the build experience even if I then ended up parting ways with the main build for space, money etc, I can no longer justify doing so for the price. However, I did think before the reveal I might be investing in the minifigures, but even that won't be happening now, what with Bib's bulky lekku, Leia's trunks and Salacious' hypnotized eyes. The Ewok Village was one of my first sets when I came out of my dark age and large scale play / display sets like it and the Mos Eisley Cantina are my favorite, but the Sail Barge whilst an excellent model is an inferior overall product when you compare price with amount of stuff and minifigure quality and details (I haven't even mentioned C-3PO's lack of dual molded leg).

6 hours ago, FullBrickDev said:

I do wonder when we will hit the point where they are asking too much and it really starts affecting sales. The current prices are quite ridiculous, even if they're "adult sets". The high price in addition to the obvious blunders such as not including UCS C-3P0 with the dual molded leg in the Sail Barge are starting to eat away at me. Including UCS C-3P0 wouldn't cost them too much (likely pennies, although I have no data on this), and I'm sure the designers would have liked to include him in the set, but got likely rejected because they have a minifigure budget that they have to follow strictly. 

I wonder that too, but I think they are still riding the sales of post pandemic new collectors right now, many of whom might not realise how the product has decreased in quality and the prices rises haven't quite hit them. But how many of us here have stopped buying sets, let alone the Sail Barge, because of the escalating prices? I'm sure a lot of us are saying it. I don't want Lego to fail, but I do think a lot of us are, and should, be voting with our wallets to send the clear message that Lego isn't that premium a product that we will just keep paying the prices.

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[Horation]

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[Mandalorianknight]

13 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

Just curious, were there a lot of complaints about the AT-AT price when it released? I don't remember there being as much discourse around the price of that set - apart from that it's high, it's very high - but people seemed to roll with it more so than what's being said about the Sail Barge price. I ask because the PPP is roughly the same - 12.5 for the AT-AT vs 12.7 for the Sail Barge.

Also has it been confirmed by anyone reliable that the Rebel Speeder/Imperial Dropship set it a) a Lego exclusive and b) only available for three months, or is this Instagram speculation repeated as fact?

I'm sure there were, but the AT-AT felt a lot more worth it to me at least. It's MASSIVE.

You also have to remember that before the price increases, it's PPP was 11.8, which is what I bought it at. Not that there's a massive difference there, but it is a difference.

6 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

This is very well said.

Lego is no longer a good value and I would argue it's becoming less and less of a premium product. I'll never be able to bring myself to buy 3rd party. But the quality of Lego has gone down not up. Just look at the professional pictures of the Barge. You can see the ugly injection mold points in the pictures used on the very box of the set! And then you have pieces breaking, pieces missing more frequently, and drastic variations in color that have gotten more prevalent. Lego has corrected course before, I hope they are listening and do so again soon.

Exactly. I've said this a few times over the past two years, but my lego purchases have gone WAY down. The legos I do buy tend to be the smaller sets, too. 

4 minutes ago, Horation said:

In other words, Lego can do whatever they want, and the customers will keep on buying, even if they don't like it. This reminds me of something @Yperio_Bricks said about people being "in love" with a brand. That's the problem, Lego doesn't have any real competitors, people only see "Lego" or "knockoff Lego".

I don't think this is the case. On this page alone you've got multiple people talking about how much they've cut back on their lego purchases. And while I can't speak for @BacktoBricks, my cutback wasn't from me buying knockoff lego or 3P, I just... don't buy as many plastic bricks as I used to. Lego can lose sales for reasons beyond 3P's muscling in.

[BacktoBricks]

16 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think this is the case. On this page alone you've got multiple people talking about how much they've cut back on their lego purchases. And while I can't speak for @BacktoBricks, my cutback wasn't from me buying knockoff lego or 3P, I just... don't buy as many plastic bricks as I used to. Lego can lose sales for reasons beyond 3P's muscling in.

Nope you're totally right. I'm not buying any 3rd party bricks, I'm just not buying as many Lego bricks.

[JohnTPT17]

For the past several years, I've found myself more interested in minifigures overall than full sets. There's something more charming to me about CMF's, older Ninjago characters, etc, that I can get for $5 or under for the most part, as opposed to spending $80 on a set that will have just one ship and three minifigures. I think they only full "sets" I have bought this year have been the Burger Truck, Bowser's Car, Rex's Microfighter, a Chrysanthemum, and two of the Animal Crossing sets - and all of those were on sale! Dichotomously, though, I'm also interested in the Bricklink Designer Program sets (I've got the Mountain Fortress and Snack Shack, with the Mushroom House on order, and I'm considering getting the Forestman Hideout/Art of Chocolate in two weeks), but those are as much to give all of my minifigures some kind of a "home" I can display and play with them around - and I'm about at my limit there.. I dunno... Maybe that makes me contradictory, or maybe I'm just going towards Lego's two extreme options since the "middle ground" sets aren't really doing it for me. And maybe Lego gets the win at the end of the day since I'm still forking over hundreds of dollars for some big sets. I dunno... It is an odd time to be into Lego.

[Yperio_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Horation said:

In other words, Lego can do whatever they want, and the customers will keep on buying, even if they don't like it. This reminds me of something @Yperio_Bricks said about people being "in love" with a brand. That's the problem, Lego doesn't have any real competitors, people only see "Lego" or "knockoff Lego".

I refered to 'brand love' in a different context in a different thread.

Like other people in this thread i plan to cut my Lego budget from next year on. Since i left my dark ages in 2018/2019 i spend thousands of euros for Lego, but with the prices ever increasing it is just not fun anymore. IT IS NO FUN ANYMORE! It is no fun to simply go into a shop and buy a Lego set! Lego is really the only hobby where I constantly have to be upset about the prices. I feel like an idiot for buying Jedi Bob's starfighter. I don't feel like an idiot when i buy a pair of running shoes.

When the news were out i was very much hyped about Peridea but now i decided that i will not by the set. The price is ridiculous and the build abysmal. The minifigs are good but i am not going to support this approach of Lego, forcing people to buy a bad overpriced set just to get some good minifigs. So no Thrawn for me mocs.

Good thing is, so far i am not interested in any of the rumored sets for next year and i have generally zilch interest in 18+ collectors sets. Helps me to save a lot of money.

I love the bricks! But the company

[Horation]

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[CloneCommando99]

I do think that Lego has been getting too overpriced in many cases recently. But occasionally we do get excellent value sets. (Dropship vs Speeder, Clone vs Droids BP and Tantive Hallway come to mind.

15 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

Also has it been confirmed by anyone reliable that the Rebel Speeder/Imperial Dropship set it a) a Lego exclusive and b) only available for three months, or is this Instagram speculation repeated as fact?

I too would like to know this.

[Llewop]

This summers wave I’ve just bought the figures I liked off eBay only half a dozen but it cost me 20% of what it would to have bought the sets to get the figures I liked. However the may/June wave I did buy straight away as I thought those sets were a little better on the price front 

Looking to 2025 I’m kind of interested in the the Jedi fighter and ARC170 but again I’m thinking of waiting for a sale. I use a site now that emails me when a set goes on sale and I’m happy to play the waiting game to get the sets I want at the right price for me. Also find I’m using my wife blue lights card and other sites to get as much off as possible before the pandemic I didn’t care about that I just got what I wanted and when I wanted it and it had little to no impact on what I had left of my wages per month.