LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[ArrowBricks]

The quality of minifigures has dropped off the most for Lego Star Wars, in my opinion. New figures, moulds, design choices, accuracy. Combine that with ridiculous prices, and I can’t justify purchasing sets. 

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

I feel like an idiot for buying Jedi Bob's starfighter. I don't feel like an idiot when i buy a pair of running shoes.

Exactly this. It's this feeling of being duped when you buy one of the particularly overpriced sets.

52 minutes ago, Horation said:

So you are still buying only from Lego? Consumer spending on all premium products has gone down in recent years due to record high inflation, so it isn't the killer argument you think it is to say that loads of people are buying less plastic bricks, that's expected. My point was that people here are critical of Lego but still buy their products, maybe fewer of them, but they still buy 'em, tell me how many people here said "I'm no longer buying any Lego/only cheap or used Lego"? Branding is powerful enough to do this.

In terms of plastic bricks, yes. In terms of toys/collectibles, absolutely not. I'm also not slowing my lego spending because of the wider economic issues- while those really suck and I can definitely feel them in other areas, due to other circumstances I personally have MORE to spend on this type of thing. And I'm buying fewer legos.

[Kaijumeister]

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

The quality of minifigures has dropped off the most for Lego Star Wars, in my opinion. New figures, moulds, design choices, accuracy. Combine that with ridiculous prices, and I can’t justify purchasing sets. 

I’ve been meaning to do a count of how many new minifigure moulds we’ve been getting every year, but it definitely seems like it’s decreasing on average. We’ve got some good ones this year for Malak, Nien, and some of the Mandalorian Season 3 stuff which is great, but I still remember years like 2018 which were absolutely packed to the brim with new minifigure elements - albeit that was largely because of TLJ and Solo.

For me, the reduction in cloth goods is more annoying than printed detail for the most part, and I’m not even referring to kamas. I feel like the LSW team are increasingly adopting a policy of ‘if a character has a backpack and cape, we aren’t giving them a cape’. It happened with Mando, Gideon, and now even Boba Fett. Really sucks and I’m sure their reasoning is along the lines of capes becoming worn out if they get bunched up next to jet pack pieces, but surely there is a workaround for this sort of thing. 

Shortcuts with minifigure accuracy that alters their profile also annoy me quite a bit, but I think I may be overreacting. Small things like not giving the Praetorian Guards shoulder armour, Cal a poncho, Ezra a more accurate hairpiece etc. are all things where the LSW could have done better (especially as certain moulds already exist!), but simply chose not to.

Anyway complaints aside, I hope we’re in for some good stuff next summer once the deluge of buildables is out of the way. I wish Lego could at least do a better job of balancing these with system sets, even if it means sprinkling buildable things throughout multiple waves and allocating some space to more traditional sets just so there’s something for everyone. It’s really distasteful to leave system sets on the sidelines and dedicate entire waves, much less an entire half of the year, to sets with barely any minifigure presence.

Edited September 22, 2024 by Kaijumeister

[Sneakguest]

On 9/18/2024 at 11:06 PM, BrickBob Studpants said:

So no March wave then? Weird. I‘m definitely way more excited for 2HY news, but I‘ve gotten used to that by now

Whats 2HY?

[Lego Nostalgia]

2 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

The quality of minifigures has dropped off the most for Lego Star Wars, in my opinion. New figures, moulds, design choices, accuracy. Combine that with ridiculous prices, and I can’t justify purchasing sets. 

There was no excuse for Lego to not make ROTJ Boba in the Skiff set, that pissed me off a lot

Just now, Sneakguest said:

Whats 2HY?

2nd Half of the year

59 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

I’ve been meaning to do a count of how many new minifigure moulds we’ve been getting every year, but it definitely seems like it’s decreasing on average. We’ve got some good ones this year for Malak, Nien, and some of the Mandalorian Season 3 stuff which is great, but I still remember years like 2018 which were absolutely packed to the brim with new minifigure elements - albeit that was largely because of TLJ and Solo.

For me, the reduction in cloth goods is more annoying than printed detail for the most part, and I’m not even referring to kamas. I feel like the LSW team are increasingly adopting a policy of ‘if a character has a backpack and cape, we aren’t giving them a cape’. It happened with Mando, Gideon, and now even Boba Fett. Really sucks and I’m sure their reasoning is along the lines of capes becoming worn out if they get bunched up next to jet pack pieces, but surely there is a workaround for this sort of thing. 

Shortcuts with minifigure accuracy that alters their profile also annoy me quite a bit, but I think I may be overreacting. Small things like not giving the Praetorian Guards shoulder armour, Cal a poncho, Ezra a more accurate hairpiece etc. are all things where the LSW could have done better (especially as certain moulds already exist!), but simply chose not to.

Anyway complaints aside, I hope we’re in for some good stuff next summer once the deluge of buildables is out of the way. I wish Lego could at least do a better job of balancing these with system sets, even if it means sprinkling buildable things throughout multiple waves and allocating some space to more traditional sets just so there’s something for everyone. It’s really distasteful to leave system sets on the sidelines and dedicate entire waves, much less an entire half of the year, to sets with barely any minifigure presence.

If that was the case then sponge fabric would be good but we all know it's cheaping out, I mean wtf, the company makes billions and can't afford cloth ?

3 hours ago, Llewop said:

This summers wave I’ve just bought the figures I liked off eBay only half a dozen but it cost me 20% of what it would to have bought the sets to get the figures I liked. However the may/June wave I did buy straight away as I thought those sets were a little better on the price front 

Looking to 2025 I’m kind of interested in the the Jedi fighter and ARC170 but again I’m thinking of waiting for a sale. I use a site now that emails me when a set goes on sale and I’m happy to play the waiting game to get the sets I want at the right price for me. Also find I’m using my wife blue lights card and other sites to get as much off as possible before the pandemic I didn’t care about that I just got what I wanted and when I wanted it and it had little to no impact on what I had left of my wages per month. 

Only set I didn't buy in August was the Dark Falcon and TIE and X-Wing, I bought the white Vader,Dark Rey,C3PO and Darth Jar Jar on BL because I don't need to waste 180 euro on a stupid recolor of a ship that we've gotten so many times.

[Sneakguest]

On 9/19/2024 at 2:58 PM, BrickBob Studpants said:

I‘m actually more surprised they ever made a minifig of hers in the first place, considering her grim fate! It‘s not often they make minifigs of characters who are most well known for their grizzly demises

Maybe, but she stands out in the palace. I dont think she should be the first one to be replaced. But that lineup, for the 2012 jabbas palace was more solid than the current 2024 sail barge.

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

The quality of minifigures has dropped off the most for Lego Star Wars, in my opinion. New figures, moulds, design choices, accuracy. Combine that with ridiculous prices, and I can’t justify purchasing sets. 

The Skiff is the only set that gives me a bad taste due to the price but I'll get it sometime, 50 euro on Amazon DE

3 minutes ago, Sneakguest said:

Maybe, but she stands out in the palace. I dont think she should be the first one to be replaced. But that lineup, for the 2012 jabbas palace was more solid than the current 2024 sail barge.

The 2012 era seemed to take risks a lot and not care about image, sadly Lego is more careful now with image and won't make stuff like the Temple Of Doom or another Oola, I wonder if we'll ever get another Jabba's Palace with AN ACTUAL ROOF, (I'm looking at you BOBF Palace)

Edited September 22, 2024 by Lego Nostalgia

[Sneakguest]

On 9/19/2024 at 4:52 PM, CallumPears said:

He's got different printing. Solid Brix does a comparison in his review.

Same mould though- apparently it even still says 2011 on the inside. That makes sense though since it's already perfect.

Cool, watched it now as well. See his lines ate much darker, which was good.

[Horation]

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[Sneakguest]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

The Skiff is the only set that gives me a bad taste due to the price but I'll get it sometime, 50 euro on Amazon DE

The 2012 era seemed to take risks a lot and not care about image, sadly Lego is more careful now with image and won't make stuff like the Temple Of Doom or another Oola, I wonder if we'll ever get another Jabba's Palace with AN ACTUAL ROOF, (I'm looking at you BOBF Palace)

Yeah, really didnt like the Book of Boba palace. I inly bought it fir the figs. 

[Mandalorianknight]

14 minutes ago, Horation said:

Yes, but you also aren't buying from their competitors in the plastic brick market, this is what brand loyalty looks like.

I don't really get either your point why you seem so interested in proving this. They don't do Mega Bloks lego star wars, they don't do koby Dune sets, and they haven't done Kre-O transformers since lego picked up the license. So is it Brand Loyalty for lego, or one of the other IPs, or is it that it's not as black and white as buy from the knockoffs or you're letting lego do whatever they want?

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

The 2012 era seemed to take risks a lot and not care about image, sadly Lego is more careful now with image and won't make stuff like the Temple Of Doom or another Oola, I wonder if we'll ever get another Jabba's Palace with AN ACTUAL ROOF, (I'm looking at you BOBF Palace)

I want to say I can't imagine that was the reason, but at the same time... I can definitely see that being the reason.

3 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

I’ve been meaning to do a count of how many new minifigure moulds we’ve been getting every year, but it definitely seems like it’s decreasing on average. We’ve got some good ones this year for Malak, Nien, and some of the Mandalorian Season 3 stuff which is great, but I still remember years like 2018 which were absolutely packed to the brim with new minifigure elements - albeit that was largely because of TLJ and Solo.

Alright I did some preliminary work, counting molds that had been gone more than 8 years as "new" since it requires new physical tooling. This might not be 100% correct, but it's what I found on brickset:

2018	19
2019	13
2020	8
2021	8
2022	8
2023	11
2024	9

 

It's definitely less than we got in the 2015-2018 era, but there's been a slight uptick recently.

[Meaf]

9 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Alright I did some preliminary work, counting molds that had been gone more than 8 years as "new" since it requires new physical tooling. This might not be 100% correct, but it's what I found on brickset:

 

2018	19
2019	13
2020	8
2021	8
2022	8
2023	11
2024	9

 

It's definitely less than we got in the 2015-2018 era, but there's been a slight uptick recently.

Honestly that's not as bad as I expected, especially since the higher numbers is 2018 and 2019 can be largely attributed to there being new movies releasing during those years I assume. More would definitely be preferable of course but I guess we do already have a lot of specialized molds now anyway (it's not like they need to do updated versions of a lot of the helmet or alien head molds, at least in my opinion).

[AD_Bricks]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

2018	19
2019	13
2020	8
2021	8
2022	8
2023	11
2024	9

Would love to see this for Ninjago as a point of comparison (don't bother going to the effort if you don't want to though, hehe).

Edited September 23, 2024 by AD_Bricks

[CloneCommando99]

6 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said:

Would love to see this for Ninjago as a point of comparison (don't bother going to the effort if you don't want to though, hehe).

Two words for why we shouldn’t compare the 2.

 

LICENSING COSTS 

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Two words for why we shouldn’t compare the 2.

LICENSING COSTS 

Plus Ninjago is their in-house golden goose. They can do whatever they want with that theme  

10 hours ago, Sneakguest said:

But that lineup, for the 2012 jabbas palace was more solid than the current 2024 sail barge.

In what sense? Four characters are included in both sets, Han and Chewy are available in the Sarlacc Pit set, and the other three figs in Jabba‘s Palace wouldn‘t make sense in any other set. 

[Samppu]

14 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

The quality of minifigures has dropped off the most for Lego Star Wars, in my opinion. New figures, moulds, design choices, accuracy. Combine that with ridiculous prices, and I can’t justify purchasing sets. 

This.

Interestingly, the 3rd party Chinese minifigure makers have meanwhile gone up in quality like rockets. They come with 360 degree high quality (both the design and the finishing) printing, multiple realistic weapons, tons of cloths, backpacks and other accessories (which often are unique), and they even tend to have in par quality compared to the official Lego in terms of not having broken or loose limbs etc. Like they are not 100% perfect, but 95%, yet Lego has not recently reached even that level always...

What they still lack is dual-molding, but the official Lego Star Wars figures do not have it anyway, and the face printing remains consistently idiotic for every figure, but that is a simple and cheap thing to fix with spare head pieces from Bricklink.

Honestly, I am usually much more excited about these 3rd party customs nowadays than I am about the official figures, at least in terms of minifigures. The official figures do sometimes come with interesting parts that I wish to pick up for creating my own Star Wars characters for my MOCs, like the Sullustan head piece from Nien Numb, but for long now I have been only looking after such individual minifigure pieces, not complete minifigures when it comes to official Lego...

So much so that from the perspective of a moc builder, if the Lego Star Wars line got cancelled at the very moment, I would not really loose so much anymore. I can pick loose bricks elsewhere cheaper and any important Star Wars minifigure parts come to me nowadays like 10% Lego, 90% 3rd party customs... (Of course, I still buy a lot of general figure parts from other fitting official Lego themes like the D&D characters have excellent torsos for your Star Wars civilians, for example.)

[ArrowBricks]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

 

In what sense? Four characters are included in both sets, Han and Chewy are available in the Sarlacc Pit set, and the other three figs in Jabba‘s Palace wouldn‘t make sense in any other set. 

For me, the 2012 Palace was groundbreaking in the sense the figures were revolutionary than what we had gotten before. 

Of course, the gap between say 2004 and 2012 vs 2012 and 2024 was a lot bigger so the effect was larger. 

Still, though. That Sail Barge lineup is lacklustre. The pirates are great, but beyond that. 

[commdr_neyo]

It appears a new U-Wing is coming next year, according to Childish Landino 

[BrickBob Studpants]

41 minutes ago, commdr_neyo said:

It appears a new U-Wing is coming next year, according to Childish Landino 

Has to be an Andor S2 tie-in set then  

[SketchBrick]

10 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Has to be an Andor S2 tie-in set then  

Let's goooo!

[Horation]

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[Legoman123]

On 9/22/2024 at 12:38 AM, STARHAWK said:

Thats because its not big enough. It should have been bigger. That why i have to build my own instead of purchasing this one. They simply recreated the Hasbro Haslab version in Lego and even slapped the 500 USD price tag on it. 3.75" collectors were glad to receive such a big vehicle after while , but lego is smaller and thus there is possibility to create the interior from crossection book and movie.

I would have no problem giving them 500 Eur if the barge was bigger and with more figs ...

Wow, I've just had a look at the Hasbro version and it is literally a replica of that.  How embarrassing. The thing is they had the blueprints of the interior to give us a proper version and chose not to.  They couldn't even be bothered to give us the room that sits above where Jabba is.  

 

[Samppu]

1 minute ago, Legoman123 said:

They couldn't even be bothered to give us the room that sits above where Jabba is.  

These recent new complaints about the Sail Barge missing the room above Jabba's throne seem a little confusing to me...

After all, the Sail Barge does have all the interesting interior one could ask for: the throne room, the kitchen, the armory, the prison, the cockpit, the ladders, the piano room. Granted, there exists a room in the visual dictionary above Jabba's throne, but that isn't iconic nor important, nor even functional, so why bother compromising something else for some totally irrelevant detail?

[Yperio_Bricks]

19 minutes ago, Horation said:

What I am interested is showing that people are refusing to buy other brands' products. I've never heard of Koby, but I know Cobi isn't too bad, so why not give 'em a chance? 

Yes it is that black and white, the point is you are making up excuses for why you don't buy from competitors, surely there's a license/theme which interests you elsewhere, and then you insult me when I point it out, then again, that's how you always argue, isn't it?

If other brands could use minifigs the picture would be completely different. For example, as a moccer I am only interested in the parts and minifigs when i buy a set. I may build the set once, disassemble it after a week and the parts wander into the bins. So i have no interest in sets from other brands because neither do i collect sets nor would display them (this applies for Lego sets as well). For me, it comes all down to the minifigs.

That's why, as a customer, I would like to see the protection of the minifig fall. The market would be flooded with minfigs we only could dream of and more. Also think of castle, pirates,... minifigs!

 

1 hour ago, commdr_neyo said:

It appears a new U-Wing is coming next year, according to Childish Landino 

 

40 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Has to be an Andor S2 tie-in set then  

Finaly some good news for next year!

[ToaDraco]

A new U-Wing sounds excellent. I mussed the first one. Plus, being based on Andor s2, it will undoubtedly include K2-SO which I also sadly missed and have badly wanted. It being a smaller size will also be appreciated because the original one was way too big in my opinion. I'm glad we're getting another Andor set, fingers-crossed it's a positive sign that a Fondor Haulcraft could happen.