LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[TotoMagnus]

13 hours ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

Why not her specifically?

In my books, she has overstayed her welcome and has become the most overrated character in Star Wars. Partly a generation thing, of course. I didn‘t grow up with her. 
 

But, as I‘ve read this morning: This cover is the result of an online voting (other choices were Luke in his X-Wing gear and 3PO), so I‘ll have to quote Lando: I don‘t like it, I don‘t agree with it, but I accept it. 

[Meaf]

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Palpy is a good choice. Though it’s a shame that it’s the nail in the coffin for Exogol sets.

I wouldn't say it 100% de-confirms it from ever happening but yeah I am not expecting one anytime soon at this point, which is a bit of a shame. 

3 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

In any other theme I'd think that's a given as it's just a poorly lit grey rock with a throne on it, with Star Wars though there are multiple mid range sets which are just grey floors with desirable minifigures so this actually is a shock.

I wonder if the sets for that movie (bar the falcon, obvs) didn't sell too well then.

I have always wondered about that too. I definitely remember seeing the sets on shelves for quite a while after the movie released, but that went for TLJ too, and obviously that's purely anecdotal. Plus I'd assume they probably produce more sets for movies than regular waves, so maybe that was part of why I was seeing them for so long? I'd love to see the data on that but as per usual I doubt we'll ever really know.

[NoOneOfImportance]

6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Palpy is a good choice. Though it’s a shame that it’s the nail in the coffin for Exogol sets.

Wouldn't say this is necessarily true. The last Palpatine that they put in a Dark Side book ended up releasing almost exactly the same in later sets. However, it does put any future Exegol set in question for sure. 

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Meaf said:

 

I have always wondered about that too. I definitely remember seeing the sets on shelves for quite a while after the movie released, but that went for TLJ too, and obviously that's purely anecdotal. Plus I'd assume they probably produce more sets for movies than regular waves, so maybe that was part of why I was seeing them for so long? I'd love to see the data on that but as per usual I doubt we'll ever really know.

Yeah, we'll never know for sure as LEGO gains nothing from telling us. Of course anecdotally there was seemingly a lot of overstock with merch for the Disney films (I saw so many Jyn Erso figures in local stores for like 6 years after that film came out, they might be used as currency after an apocalypse) but that likely wouldn't be nearly as dire if they were produced in normal quantities.

I wonder how the 2020 TRoS sets sold, that was after the pre-release hype died and sequel sets pretty much fizzled out from there. 

I do think it's interesting to think about. I think there's always gonna be a stark division between pre and post Disney star wars and the Disney+ content mill makes so much product in a year that sets for all of those shows probably takes the slots where sequel sets would be.

Or idk, maybe they're just waiting until the movies start again for cross promotion as the Rey film will probably just use sequel locations, characters and vehicles.

[Swordy]

43 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

 

I wonder how the 2020 TRoS sets sold, that was after the pre-release hype died and sequel sets pretty much fizzled out from there.

Anecdotally speaking, I remember seeing sets like the Resistance A-Wing and TIE Dorito still in stock on Amazon US well after their respective retirements. I sorta regret not getting them, but it’s not a hard loss for me.

Honestly, none of the sets from TROS appeal to me much, besides Kylo’s shuttle or the aforementioned sets I skipped. I think poor sales could be attributed just as much to weak set choice as apathy for the film itself.

 

TROS Palps is an ugly, beautiful sight to behold. Definitely going to pick up this book sometime in the future. That said, like the rest of y’all, I mourn the loss of an Exegol playset, something that would’ve peeked my interest just as much as this Palps figure by itself.

Edited October 25, 2024 by Swordy

[Darth_Bane13]

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

 

1. Chrome pieces have been discontinued years ago, likely as a combination of the factors above.

Also not gonna happen for the reasons stated above

they still use chrome for the lord of the rings ring, I feel like they can make exception to other small pieces too.

[BrickBob Studpants]

3 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

they still use chrome for the lord of the rings ring, I feel like they can make exception to other small pieces too.

Oh, right!! So it‘s the only chrome part still in production

[Mandalorianknight]

14 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Chrome pieces have been discontinued years ago, likely as a combination of the factors above.

Chrome hasn't stopped completely in lego. The LOTR ring for example.

13 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Since Marvel and DC Mechs now come with 2 minifigures, will lego do the same with SW? Jango Fett Mech vs Obi-wan anyone?

It's kind of interesting to see lego's thought process here- in 2023 they bumped the mechs from $10 to $15 without really making them contain more stuff. The extra minifig in the miles set and now all upcoming mechs is assumably meant to give that price bump an associated value bump (I would guess the 2023 mechs didn't sell as well as their 2020-2022 counterparts). The reason I bring this up is the star wars mechs are already a bit more expensive than the superhero ones- $17 if I'm remembering right. I think whether or not we get an extra minifigure is going to depend on how well the mechs sold- pretty terribly around me, though I am guilty of buying the stormtrooper one in 2023 just to see what was up with them.

Also, I've hated on the star wars mechs for a long time, but if we start getting ones like the X-wing mech with two minifigures, I'd be completely down for it. (Of course, I'd vastly prefer just getting small system sets again, but lego's done nothing but gimmicks for this price point for over a decade. Even though Marvel has those excellent $10 sets with two figs, it seems star wars won't be getting any.)

Edited October 25, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[Classic_Spaceman]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Oh, right!! So it‘s the only chrome part still in production

The one chrome part to rule them all. . . 
 

[Samppu]

16 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

There are multiple issues in fact:

1. Chrome was applied as a layer on top of regular pieces, which could affect the clutch power
2. Chrome pieces were expensive to produce
3. They scratch easily
4. Every fingerprint is visible
5. The chrome paint is poisonous/carcinogenic and its production bad for the environment
6. Chrome pieces have been discontinued years ago, likely as a combination of the factors above.

Also not gonna happen for the reasons stated above

Didn't know this, wow.

Still, Naboo craft could be nowadays made with the new metallic shades at least, there are tons of pieces in production in those colors anyway.

[Lego Nostalgia]

19 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

In any other theme I'd think that's a given as it's just a poorly lit grey rock with a throne on it, with Star Wars though there are multiple mid range sets which are just grey floors with desirable minifigures so this actually is a shock.

I wonder if the sets for that movie (bar the falcon, obvs) didn't sell too well then.

Well Kylo's Shuttle and The Falcon would have done the most well, TFA Sets must have sold well, back then there was still hype for the Sequels before TLJ came out, First Order had potential and the Snoke theories were cool to read and speculate, good times 2015, IMO the Takodana set,Kylo's Shuttle,Falcon, X-Wings and First Order TIE Fighter were probably the ones that sold the best from TFA

TFA 1st Wave was very strong, after that all the sets were mid at best, I remember seeing the Jakku set around 3 years after it retired

Edited October 26, 2024 by Lego Nostalgia

[Renny The Spaceman]

5 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

First Order had potential

Eh, it was just the empire again. Just lacking the actual interesting story seed of showing how a Republic can easily become fascist, instead they just blow up the planet of goodies and now are in charge.

But set wise while I think a lot of the builds were majorly lacking (Takodana, Kylo's first shuttle) or made way to big for what they were (we had a 90 quid X-wing by the end of the trilogy!) I think a real factor in how these sets sold was probably how big they made a lot of them, why make that TLJ Pod set 30 quid, across the board the key issue with this trilogies merch seemed to be that they thought they could get away with making so many products that were so overpriced and they'd do well for the 5 years this trilogy was being made but the nostalgia hit that carried TFA didn't last long enough 

[Classic_Spaceman]

4 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Eh, it was just the empire again. Just lacking the actual interesting story seed of showing how a Republic can easily become fascist, instead they just blow up the planet of goodies and now are in charge. 

Instead of just doing Rebels vs. Empire again, the Sequels should have made the good guys the New Republic (rather than the ragtag Resistance) and the First Order a neo-Imperial insurgent group that grows in power over the course of the trilogy (similar to the Separatists in that respect). The FO are clearly intended to be Empire fanboys, but they are too well-equipped from the start to feel realistic (especially since Palpatine only shows up and provides resources in EP.9 - Having him be a presence throughout the trilogy (as many suspected he was after TFA, given the holographic ‘strings’ on Snoke!), even if only known to the audience, would have helped soften his “somehow” return). 
Additionally, I am even OK with Starkiller Base and the destruction of Hosnian Prime (as I can buy that the FO finished a secret Imperial project on Ilum), but this should have been moved to the second movie in the trilogy, in order to act as the turning point in which the First Order becomes a full-on threat to the NR. 
For EP.9, I would have liked to see some planets (perhaps ones that suffered the least under Imperial control?) have defected to the First Order and the Galaxy descend into a “World War” of sorts between the equally-powerful New Republic and First Order. The heroes can still get a win by taking out Palpatine and Exegol (thereby preventing him and the FO from gaining absolute control), but the First Order should not have been defeated; a better ending would have the NR and FO in a stalemate after Palpatine’s final defeat, which leads into a “Galactic Cold War” era for the next trilogy. 
 

[Renny The Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Instead of just doing Rebels vs. Empire again, the Sequels should have made the good guys the New Republic (rather than the ragtag Resistance) and the First Order a neo-Imperial insurgent group that grows in power over the course of the trilogy (similar to the Separatists in that respect). The FO are clearly intended to be Empire fanboys, but they are too well-equipped from the start to feel realistic (especially since Palpatine only shows up and provides resources in EP.9 - Having him be a presence throughout the trilogy (as many suspected he was after TFA, given the holographic ‘strings’ on Snoke!), even if only known to the audience, would have helped soften his “somehow” return). 
Additionally, I am even OK with Starkiller Base and the destruction of Hosnian Prime (as I can buy that the FO finished a secret Imperial project on Ilum), but this should have been moved to the second movie in the trilogy, in order to act as the turning point in which the First Order becomes a full-on threat to the NR. 
For EP.9, I would have liked to see some planets (perhaps ones that suffered the least under Imperial control?) have defected to the First Order and the Galaxy descend into a “World War” of sorts between the equally-powerful New Republic and First Order. The heroes can still get a win by taking out Palpatine and Exegol (thereby preventing him and the FO from gaining absolute control), but the First Order should not have been defeated; a better ending would have the NR and FO in a stalemate after Palpatine’s final defeat, which leads into a “Galactic Cold War” era for the next trilogy. 
 

All fair points, it's very funny in those films they spend the whole third film fighting the secret 3rd Empire and have the second empire we've been following for the previous 2 films beaten off screen. I would rather this trilogy had ended definitively than the cold war thing but tbf as we can see now there was no world where the saga ended there so I suppose it'd be more honest for it to end as you suggest and not even pretend disney will stop making these movies (or trying to

, these films never come out)

[CallumPears]

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Instead of just doing Rebels vs. Empire again, the Sequels should have made the good guys the New Republic (rather than the ragtag Resistance) and the First Order a neo-Imperial insurgent group that grows in power over the course of the trilogy (similar to the Separatists in that respect). The FO are clearly intended to be Empire fanboys, but they are too well-equipped from the start to feel realistic (especially since Palpatine only shows up and provides resources in EP.9 - Having him be a presence throughout the trilogy (as many suspected he was after TFA, given the holographic ‘strings’ on Snoke!), even if only known to the audience, would have helped soften his “somehow” return). 
Additionally, I am even OK with Starkiller Base and the destruction of Hosnian Prime (as I can buy that the FO finished a secret Imperial project on Ilum), but this should have been moved to the second movie in the trilogy, in order to act as the turning point in which the First Order becomes a full-on threat to the NR. 
For EP.9, I would have liked to see some planets (perhaps ones that suffered the least under Imperial control?) have defected to the First Order and the Galaxy descend into a “World War” of sorts between the equally-powerful New Republic and First Order. The heroes can still get a win by taking out Palpatine and Exegol (thereby preventing him and the FO from gaining absolute control), but the First Order should not have been defeated; a better ending would have the NR and FO in a stalemate after Palpatine’s final defeat, which leads into a “Galactic Cold War” era for the next trilogy. 
 

Hi please build a time machine and travel back to 2013 with a foolproof JJ Abrams disguise, thanks

[Flawless Cowboy]

What I think most theories (and the sequels) miss is the crux of Star Wars, which is, first and foremost, a coming of age story. George’s vision had the prequels mirror the original trilogy as an example of what NOT to do, or how good men, or good people, are driven to do vile things. And most importantly, the theme that pervades at the end is love and redemption. All of these nuances on the larger universe, Cold War this, galactic stale mate that, trade negotiations, are merely a backdrop to the core of Star Wars. I think the first question a director would ask when charting a new Star Wars film or trilogy, is “what is the point of the story?” I think one of the reasons the sequels fell so flat for so many people is that it didn’t teach us anything new that George hadn’t already shown. There’s no new archetype to explore. 

[wesker]

On 10/25/2024 at 6:22 AM, Old Master said:

The new Palpatine may be one of the best one to date. Finally they correctly reflected his skin tone as white instead of that snot yellow they have been using.

The skin tone is a huge improvement over the tan. It looks to me like a new color somewhere between white and light bluish grey but that could just be the lighting. Another thing that makes this figure stand out is the printed skirt piece. It looks so much better than the oversized capes the ROTJ figures use and I'd like to see this change carry over for all Palpatine figures going forward.

[Archer]

12 hours ago, wesker said:

The skin tone is a huge improvement over the tan. It looks to me like a new color somewhere between white and light bluish grey but that could just be the lighting. Another thing that makes this figure stand out is the printed skirt piece. It looks so much better than the oversized capes the ROTJ figures use and I'd like to see this change carry over for all Palpatine figures going forward.

As we’ve been getting a lot more variety of capes/ printing to represent what used to always use that one cape piece for decades, I realize how warped my vision is on what some of these characters costumes should look like. The big cape is good for Vader or Lando, but as you say Palpy and many others actually don’t need that flared out look.

[Lego Nostalgia]

14 hours ago, wesker said:

The skin tone is a huge improvement over the tan. It looks to me like a new color somewhere between white and light bluish grey but that could just be the lighting. Another thing that makes this figure stand out is the printed skirt piece. It looks so much better than the oversized capes the ROTJ figures use and I'd like to see this change carry over for all Palpatine figures going forward.

I think it might just be White

[BrickBob Studpants]

41 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I think it might just be White

Agreed. What would be the point of creating a new sickly pale skintone? Which characters could benefit from that other than TROS Palpy, Voldy, and Azog?

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Archer said:

As we’ve been getting a lot more variety of capes/ printing to represent what used to always use that one cape piece for decades, I realize how warped my vision is on what some of these characters costumes should look like. The big cape is good for Vader or Lando, but as you say Palpy and many others actually don’t need that flared out look.

100% agree. Lego uses capes for a lot of SW characters who don't have capes. Palpatine, Old Ben, a pretty solid chunk of jedi- it's often used just to represent robes when that's not really accurate. I don't think it's all that much of an issue- for a lot of characters you can just remove the cape if you don't like it- but it is a weird inaccuracy. I wonder if lego's inching away from fabric capes will start getting us more stuff like skirt piece palpatine.

16 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Agreed. What would be the point of creating a new sickly pale skintone? Which characters could benefit from that other than TROS Palpy, Voldy, and Azog?

If it's an in-between between LBG and white, it could be used for stuff like X-wings, Lambdas, snowspeeders, etc. (I agree that it's just white, I'm just saying there are places they could take that color)

Edited October 27, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[JohnTPT17]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

100% agree. Lego uses capes for a lot of SW characters who don't have capes. Palpatine, Old Ben, a pretty solid chunk of jedi- it's often used just to represent robes when that's not really accurate. I don't think it's all that much of an issue- for a lot of characters you can just remove the cape if you don't like it- but it is a weird inaccuracy. I wonder if lego's inching away from fabric capes will start getting us more stuff like skirt piece palpatine.

I personally like the cloth capes - It's probably because they've been around since the start of Lego Star Wars, but they add a very "Lego" feel to the minifigures for me, even if it's not screen accurate. Heck, there's often times I'll give a cape to a minifigure who didn't have one before, just because I like the way it looks!

I also don't think that they will completely replace cloth capes. The skirt piece does work well for some characters, but it wouldn't made sense to give them to, say Darth Vader or Superman. I also don't think Lego will go full rubber cape either - the rubber ones don't have printing (besides a small Batman logo on the front of one), only have on color (and lots of characters have two different colors in their capes), and, thus far, they mostly come in one main shape (so no fancy scalloped ends like the Vampire Knight, a weathered look like the upcoming Wolfpack Beast Master, or fancy designs like Lady of Pain). And I have similar feelings about the rubber capes as I do Lego Friends - they're fine for what they are, but they feel somewhat "kiddy" to me, and I'm not personally interested in them, but I also won't begrudge anyone who does like them. I do think that they have a role to play, and I'm okay with their current level of inclusion - but I also don't want them usurp the cloth ones, or even become more common than they are.

[CallumPears]

3 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

I also don't think Lego will go full rubber cape either

I'm always terrified of rubber parts perishing so I really hope they don't, or if they do they find a super durable material. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Agreed. What would be the point of creating a new sickly pale skintone? Which characters could benefit from that other than TROS Palpy, Voldy, and Azog?

Especially for a Minifigure in a book

2 hours ago, CallumPears said:

I'm always terrified of rubber parts perishing so I really hope they don't, or if they do they find a super durable material. 

Rubber capes only work with some figures, Doctor Strange,Dr Doom, Darth Vader and Keaton,Affleck and Pattinson's Batman, I hope they don't get rid of cloth

[Classic_Spaceman]

1 minute ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Rubber capes only work with some figures, Doctor Strange,Dr Doom, Darth Vader and Keaton,Affleck and Pattinson's Batman, I hope they don't get rid of cloth

I doubt that they will, though I disagree that Vader can use a rubber cape! I do like the reuse of the Asgardian cape for Magneto, though, since it fits his classic costume better than a cloth one would.