LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Mandalorianknight]

11 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

The bigger problem for me is that she never got any screen time just being a badass, so despite looking cool, whenever she showed up she just ended up being defeated easily.

But this is exactly what Boba Fett is like in the original trilogy. Arguably this was the closest element Phasma had in common with Boba Fett.

4 hours ago, icm said:

3. We're shown an establishing shot of Poe in his cockpit, then if you watch closely you see his specific ship taking out at least four Tie fighters, prompting Finn to yell "that's one hell of a pilot!"

This is actually the scene that got me to buy his starfighter lego set, which by extension brought me back into lego star wars. I have a soft spot for TFA because of it.

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Still waiting for a Commander Pyre minifig 😅

Or Captain Cardinal!

[Alexandrina]

8 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

that's a wild take

Is it? The prequels are famously not technically brilliant, TROS is a mess, ESB suffers from issues with timeline, etc. If you're judging the films on their technical merits alone, it's basically a toss-up between TFA and ANH, the latter of which is not as visually striking perhaps as a result of its age

[CloneCommando99]

We’re never getting Bad Batch Season 2 and 3 sets are we?

[Agent Kallus]

54 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

We’re never getting Bad Batch Season 2 and 3 sets are we?

Rebellions are built on hope. Probably not but TLG is often unpredictable.

You think that's unlikely, I'm still hoping for Accolyte sets ( and no I don't need anyone to reply and tell me they didn't like the show! I know, I know and while I did like the show part of me wants the sets just to help make some high republic jedi from the books)

In fearful day, in raging night, With strong hearts full, our souls ignite, When all seems lost in the War of Light, Look to the stars-- For hope burns bright!

[BrickBob Studpants]

31 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

You think that's unlikely, I'm still hoping for Accolyte sets […]

I‘m still hopeful for that as well, unlikely as it is! What a weird precedent when a live-action SW show of all things doesn‘t get at least one set! 

And no matter what you think of the show, I think we can all agree at least that Qimir and Sol need minifigs  …30th anniversary figures in case they‘ll celebrate that?  

[Renny The Spaceman]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

We’re never getting Bad Batch Season 2 and 3 sets are we?

No chance, they made too overpriced sets that didn't seem to sell well and the show doesn't appear to have made much of an impact outside of existing Clone Wars fans.

I think the only chance of them doing something else from the show is for the 30th anniversary or a book or something doing an Imperial Cody figure given how LEGO seems to treat him now

[Classic_Spaceman]

12 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

But this is exactly what Boba Fett is like in the original trilogy. Arguably this was the closest element Phasma had in common with Boba Fett.

Boba actually fired his blaster in his first film appearance, while Phasma did not. Also, Boba ironically benefitted from having less screen time/lines in ESB than Phasma did in TFA - What little we get do of him (tracking the Falcon to Cloud City, his brief firefight with Luke) combined with the handful of lines from and about him (“No disintegrations.”, “What if he doesn’t survive? He’s worth a lot to me.”, etc) give him just enough characterisation while preserving his overall mysterious badass vibe. 
Moreover, Boba actually won in his first appearance - He successfully tracks the Falcon to Cloud City, then escapes with Han to collect his bounty! Phasma never gets a win, so it is difficult to take her seriously. 
 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Classic_Spaceman

[Lego Nostalgia]

6 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

No chance, they made too overpriced sets that didn't seem to sell well and the show doesn't appear to have made much of an impact outside of existing Clone Wars fans.

I think the only chance of them doing something else from the show is for the 30th anniversary or a book or something doing an Imperial Cody figure given how LEGO seems to treat him now

Wish we got a Republic Crosshair

[Darth_Bane13]

9 hours ago, Alexandrina said:

Is it? The prequels are famously not technically brilliant, TROS is a mess, ESB suffers from issues with timeline, etc. If you're judging the films on their technical merits alone, it's basically a toss-up between TFA and ANH, the latter of which is not as visually striking perhaps as a result of its age

putting TFA above the OT, ROTS, and R1 is an interesting choice but to each their own.

[Renny The Spaceman]

Timeline issues aren't a technical problem, if you care about that it's a story one

[CloneCommando99]

57 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Timeline issues aren't a technical problem, if you care about that it's a story one

Care to elaborate?

 

What’s crazy though is that the Clone Wars only lasted for 3 years.

Padme’s pregnancy I’m not too miffed about as that can be said to be a force thing.

[Renny The Spaceman]

38 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Care to elaborate?

 

What’s crazy though is that the Clone Wars only lasted for 3 years.

Padme’s pregnancy I’m not too miffed about as that can be said to be a force thing.

I mean there's no technical part of filmmaking at fault there, if the film's timeline doesn't add up like someone here said that's a story issue or MAYBE an editing issue in certain circumstances, that's got nothing to do the technical competency of a film 

[JohnTPT17]

27 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Care to elaborate?

I think that was said in response to Alexandria saying that The Force Awakens is one of the best Star Wars films from a technical standpoint, but noted that Empire wasn't a contender because it has timeline issues (I think the argument basically boils down to the question of "How long did Luke train on Dagobah? If he had to spend several weeks/months working on his skills, then how did Leia and Han not starve, or Vader just give up the hunt? And if it was only a few days, how did he progress so quickly?). 

As far as what Renny was saying, though, I do agree - story issues and technical issues are two different things. The Sequels do have some things that, from a technical level, so look good - I'm not a fan at all of The Last Jedi, but I can't deny that The Holdo Maneuver and Crait look really cool. From a story perspective though - I don't like those particular scenes (If the Holdo Maneuver works, then why not send droid piloted ships into the Death Star, or into planets? And if it really was a one-in-a-million shot, why did the First Order freak out so much when they realized what she was doing? How was Rose able to catch up to crash into Finn's ship - and, how did they both get back to the base fast enough to escape, without getting shot by all of the ships looking at them/stopped by Kylo?). Conversely, while the technical depiction of most of The Clone Wars and Rebels isn't my usual cup of tea, I really like those stories and characters. 

Bringing it back to Lego, as far as what I buy goes, I do think that there's a balance of "I think it looks cool" and "I like the characters/scenes that come from this set." I own some minifigures and sets just because I think that they look cool, even if I don't fully like or even know their story - I know nothing about BB-9E from the movies, but I have him just because I think he looks cool. Other times, I'll get a set just for the character even though I don't like the way the set looks - the Rex microfighter being a recent example (not that his ship looks bad, I'm just not a Microfighter guy). Ideally, most of my purchases will check both of those boxes, but that's not always the case. I'll usually put more emphasis on connections to characters, locations, or vehicles over just the visual appearance, though - but I know some people buy very different than that, which is totally fine! And since we all can enjoy the same thing for very different reasons, I think arguing about it is all just rather silly.

[Mandalorianknight]

13 hours ago, Alexandrina said:

ESB suffers from issues with timeline

I wouldn't call this a technical issue, though.

11 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

You think that's unlikely, I'm still hoping for Accolyte sets ( and no I don't need anyone to reply and tell me they didn't like the show! I know, I know and while I did like the show part of me wants the sets just to help make some high republic jedi from the books

Too bad, you said you didn't like shazam and now I have to tell you I didn't like media you enjoyed. 

On the bright side, the high republic adventures 4+ sets have been shelfwarming to ludicrous levels (I think I've seen people posting images of the $35 one going for $15 at some outlets), which could at least get you some torsos.

11 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I‘m still hopeful for that as well, unlikely as it is! What a weird precedent when a live-action SW show of all things doesn‘t get at least one set! 

And no matter what you think of the show, I think we can all agree at least that Qimir and Sol need minifigs  …30th anniversary figures in case they‘ll celebrate that?  

I would not be happy if two full anniversary figure slots got dedicated to the Acolyte of all things but I'll take a Sol figure.

3 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

putting TFA above the OT, ROTS, and R1 is an interesting choice but to each their own.

IMO putting ROTS above TFA is an interesting choice but to each their own.

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Padme’s pregnancy I’m not too miffed about as that can be said to be a force thing.

IIRC we- in a bout of star wars giving us perhaps too much information- do know when they were conceived (which if I remember right is right after anakin accidentally kills a ton of people in one of the canon Thrawn books) and the timeline more or less works.

[CloneCommando99]

19 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

IIRC we- in a bout of star wars giving us perhaps too much information- do know when they were conceived (which if I remember right is right after anakin accidentally kills a ton of people in one of the canon Thrawn books) and the timeline more or less works.

Black Noir moment.

At the beginning of ROTS I’d say she looked at most 5 months pregnant. Ahsoka and the 332nd couldn’t have been on Mandalore more than a couple of weeks. And let’s not forget that in TBB Depa Bilaba’s reinforcements had been diverted to the battle of Coruscant which is why TBB had been deployed instead. But then Order 66 happens immediately after they arrive.

43 minutes ago, JohnTPT17 said:

I think that was said in response to Alexandria saying that The Force Awakens is one of the best Star Wars films from a technical standpoint, but noted that Empire wasn't a contender because it has timeline issues (I think the argument basically boils down to the question of "How long did Luke train on Dagobah? If he had to spend several weeks/months working on his skills, then how did Leia and Han not starve, or Vader just give up the hunt? And if it was only a few days, how did he progress so quickly?). 

As far as what Renny was saying, though, I do agree - story issues and technical issues are two different things. The Sequels do have some things that, from a technical level, so look good - I'm not a fan at all of The Last Jedi, but I can't deny that The Holdo Maneuver and Crait look really cool. From a story perspective though - I don't like those particular scenes (If the Holdo Maneuver works, then why not send droid piloted ships into the Death Star, or into planets? And if it really was a one-in-a-million shot, why did the First Order freak out so much when they realized what she was doing? How was Rose able to catch up to crash into Finn's ship - and, how did they both get back to the base fast enough to escape, without getting shot by all of the ships looking at them/stopped by Kylo?). Conversely, while the technical depiction of most of The Clone Wars and Rebels isn't my usual cup of tea, I really like those stories and characters. 

Fair enough. I understand now.

[Renny The Spaceman]

52 minutes ago, JohnTPT17 said:

I think that was said in response to Alexandria saying that The Force Awakens is one of the best Star Wars films from a technical standpoint, but noted that Empire wasn't a contender because it has timeline issues (I think the argument basically boils down to the question of "How long did Luke train on Dagobah? If he had to spend several weeks/months working on his skills, then how did Leia and Han not starve, or Vader just give up the hunt? And if it was only a few days, how did he progress so quickly?). 

As far as what Renny was saying, though, I do agree - story issues and technical issues are two different things. The Sequels do have some things that, from a technical level, so look good - I'm not a fan at all of The Last Jedi, but I can't deny that The Holdo Maneuver and Crait look really cool. From a story perspective though - I don't like those particular scenes (If the Holdo Maneuver works, then why not send droid piloted ships into the Death Star, or into planets? And if it really was a one-in-a-million shot, why did the First Order freak out so much when they realized what she was doing? How was Rose able to catch up to crash into Finn's ship - and, how did they both get back to the base fast enough to escape, without getting shot by all of the ships looking at them/stopped by Kylo?). Conversely, while the technical depiction of most of The Clone Wars and Rebels isn't my usual cup of tea, I really like those stories and characters. 

Bringing it back to Lego, as far as what I buy goes, I do think that there's a balance of "I think it looks cool" and "I like the characters/scenes that come from this set." I own some minifigures and sets just because I think that they look cool, even if I don't fully like or even know their story - I know nothing about BB-9E from the movies, but I have him just because I think he looks cool. Other times, I'll get a set just for the character even though I don't like the way the set looks - the Rex microfighter being a recent example (not that his ship looks bad, I'm just not a Microfighter guy). Ideally, most of my purchases will check both of those boxes, but that's not always the case. I'll usually put more emphasis on connections to characters, locations, or vehicles over just the visual appearance, though - but I know some people buy very different than that, which is totally fine! And since we all can enjoy the same thing for very different reasons, I think arguing about it is all just rather silly.

Bingo, I think on a technical level TLJ is far an away shows the most filmmaking craft of any of the disney SW films (Not surprising, Rian Johnson has a notable leg up from Abrams or Gareth Edwards if you look at the quality of their work outside of Star Wars), even if I don't care for any of them on a story level

[ARC2149Nova]

54 minutes ago, JohnTPT17 said:

Bringing it back to Lego, as far as what I buy goes, I do think that there's a balance of "I think it looks cool" and "I like the characters/scenes that come from this set." I own some minifigures and sets just because I think that they look cool, even if I don't fully like or even know their story - I know nothing about BB-9E from the movies, but I have him just because I think he looks cool. Other times, I'll get a set just for the character even though I don't like the way the set looks - the Rex microfighter being a recent example (not that his ship looks bad, I'm just not a Microfighter guy).

I'm similar in that sense. But more recently, I try to bricklink the figures I want.

41 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

IMO putting ROTS above TFA is an interesting choice but to each their own.

It is the correct choice.  TFA is ANH 2: Force Boogaloo. ROTS is Shakespeare, A Star Wars story (thematically, at the very least). And the locations of ROTS are a lot more visually striking, alongside better battle sequences. I liked TFA when it released, but it's incomparable to any of the original six films.

[Alexandrina]

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Timeline issues aren't a technical problem, if you care about that it's a story one

Timeline issues (and to be clear, I'm talking about internally within the film, not the larger Star Wars timeline) are a continuity issue. That's part of the production process. Maybe 'technical' gave a too-specific impression, but to be clear by technical I'm referring to the entire production process, from draft screenplay to picture lock. ESB is a very good film, and probably more impactful than TFA, but it's not a perfect film.

In my eyes, actually, that's held back Star Wars ever since. There's a sense that everything has to measure up to ESB and hope to match its quality - but we can and should be hoping for films that are better than it, because it's absolutely possible to be better. TFA in my opinion managed this as a technical piece, but failed to resonate in quite the same way, and was let down by its sequels moreso than ESB was.

9 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

And the locations of ROTS are a lot more visually striking

Some of the locations are more visually striking, sure, but the way they're shot is not as good as TFA. There isn't a single shot in AOTC or ROTS, and probably not more than three or four in the first four films put together, that are as visually stunning as certain shots of Rey in front of the downed Star Destroyer, and the moment where Rey and Finn arrive as Han is walking to meet Kylo and we get a beautiful tableau with the shaft of sunlight breaking the darkness is incredibly cinematic.

And I wonder if that contributes to how the films' reputations are seen. Take Lego for example - with enough bricks, anyone can build a MOC of Utapau or the Jedi Temple or Felucia and it's immediately recognisable. ROTS has striking locations, as you say. TFA's locations aren't necessarily as visually striking, but the way they are shot demonstrates a mastery of the craft. But it's hard to replicate. Building the interior of Starkiller Base without replicating the cinematography makes it look far more drab

[Renny The Spaceman]

48 minutes ago, Alexandrina said:

Timeline issues (and to be clear, I'm talking about internally within the film, not the larger Star Wars timeline) are a continuity issue. That's part of the production process. Maybe 'technical' gave a too-specific impression, but to be clear by technical I'm referring to the entire production process, from draft screenplay to picture lock. ESB is a very good film, and probably more impactful than TFA, but it's not a perfect film.

In my eyes, actually, that's held back Star Wars ever since. There's a sense that everything has to measure up to ESB and hope to match its quality - but we can and should be hoping for films that are better than it, because it's absolutely possible to be better. TFA in my opinion managed this as a technical piece, but failed to resonate in quite the same way, and was let down by its sequels moreso than ESB was.

I understood what you ment by timeline, you conveyed that clearly but I still personally don't agree. I feel surely if we expand technical to include pretty much every part of the filmmaking process then surely TFA now has the technical issues with how it's so interested in it's mystery boxes it skims over a lot of basic characterisation to the point that despite the film's inciting incident Finn being torn up seeing a stormtrooper die he, nor the film itself never shows any sympathy for these brainwashed child soldiers again. Or how poorly conveyed the first order/resistance are as factions, how the CG on Maz Kanata is nearly as distracting as the multiple times a scene will stop to show a prop from the OT being held in severance and such.

Of course all of that is just my opinion but I think that if we're talking script faults TFA definitely has at least as many as ESB and I think that's evident in it not striking the same emotional core. The point of art as a concept is to tell stories that resonate and TFA isn't really much of story, everything in it is kinda just the superficial beats of a Star wars film without the emotional investment like (with how we get our fourth trench run but instead of any of the characters we care about being involved it's the kinda funny pilot guy who disappeared from most of the movie) or with how we don't really have enough context for anything that happens in the film to mean anything (We get the set up to Rey and Finn's arcs, but because they wanted to bait and switch the audience with who the real lead is we don't really get any pay off to their arcs here, that's shunted to TLJ, Luke has an arc in all three OT films but we have an entire film of characters telling Finn he needs to fight for a cause and Rey she needs to move on from her parents but they don't really change at all until the next one) it's all set up but set up can't sustain a movie, the set up has nothing to say in my opinion and doesn't really work as a film on it's own because of that.

Probably just comes down to my personal perspective but I think the ultimate technical failing of any piece of art is surely not leaving an impression, the Room is gonna stick with me as it's trying to say something and how it fails to do so tells me about the failings of Tommy Wiseu. The Force Awakens tells me I should be excited for the next films but nothing else, so when I know the next films didn't do anything with the already shallow threads this one set up

 

Or idk, maybe I'm just mad because if this film didn't popularise the fanwanky legacy sequel to Gen X properties I wouldn't be living in a world where I'm expected to be emotionally invested in the megablocking Ghostbusters 

Edited November 5, 2024 by Renny The Spaceman

[AD_Bricks]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

On the bright side, the high republic adventures 4+ sets have been shelfwarming to ludicrous levels (I think I've seen people posting images of the $35 one going for $15 at some outlets), which could at least get you some torsos.

I ended up buying the Tenoo temple on a steep discount like that (~60-70% off), now I'm just waiting for the same thing to happen to the Firehawk in a shop near me so that I can complete the collection, lmao. Absolutely not worth it at full price but definitely fun enough to sway me when cheap enough.

[Agent Kallus]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Too bad, you said you didn't like shazam and now I have to tell you I didn't like media you enjoyed. 

On the bright side, the high republic adventures 4+ sets have been shelfwarming to ludicrous levels (I think I've seen people posting images of the $35 one going for $15 at some outlets), which could at least get you some torsos.

I already own both those sets  and no I didn't play full price for either. But the torso designs in those sets don't really match the aesthetic of normal minifigs. 

And like I said in the marvel thread I didn't actually hate the Shazam movie, I just didn't love it either. I don't think it did the character justice ( though TBH I could also say that the Accolyte didn't do Vernestra justice either but that wasn't enough to put me off the show).

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, Alexandrina said:

Some of the locations are more visually striking, sure, but the way they're shot is not as good as TFA. There isn't a single shot in AOTC or ROTS, and probably not more than three or four in the first four films put together, that are as visually stunning as certain shots of Rey in front of the downed Star Destroyer, and the moment where Rey and Finn arrive as Han is walking to meet Kylo and we get a beautiful tableau with the shaft of sunlight breaking the darkness is incredibly cinematic.

I disagree, just off the top of my head, the scene of Anakin riding the speeder to save his mom, the Mustafar duel, Emperor Palpatine speech are all better. I don't even think TFA is the best sequel film when it comes to visuals.

[Agent Kallus]

I think TLJ is the best sequel film when it comes to visuals.

[ARC2149Nova]

2 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

I think TLJ is the best sequel film when it comes to visuals.

I can agree with this. I particularly like the image of Rey lifting the rocks.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

I don't know why we're talking about The Last Jedi, but since we are I'll just say that (in my opinion) it's not just the best movie from the Sequel Trilogy, but one of the best Star Wars movie period—rivaled only by the Original Trilogy.

It's so amazing that this is the movie that broke popculture discussion, and to this day we can feel its repercussions—especially in the context of Star Wars itself, where the executives are quaking in their boots, unable to take any kind of risk or produce another movie (except for a glorified Disney+ episode).