Flawless Cowboy Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 39 minutes ago, omegabadbatch said: Really Hope the second Andor set is stormtrooper battlepack. And no, 40755 dropship vs scout speeder is not good way for getting stormtroopers (3 stormtroopers for 40$) I dont want to have army od pink droids and rebel fleet troopers Adults really need to drill into their heads the fact that most kids who end up getting sets, including battle packs, usually get no more than two of them. A fraction of a single percent of the LSW community has the desire and the means to “army build” in excess, and Lego shouldn’t be catering to this group. Most kids are more than happy to receive six troops in a single $40 set and don’t need more. The reason why Lego doesn’t mind putting named characters in battle packs is because the overwhelming majority of the target audience get exactly one of them, and no more. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 44 minutes ago, omegabadbatch said: Really Hope the second Andor set is stormtrooper battlepack. And no, 40755 dropship vs scout speeder is not good way for getting stormtroopers (3 stormtroopers for 40$) I dont want to have army od pink droids and rebel fleet troopers I’d agree. But @Yperio_Bricks has a point. I’d accept it if it was a singular stormtrooper in an Army Trooper BP or shore/ range troopers. But I agree with @THELEGOBATMAN, we should get more prominent ships like the Tie Avenger, Tie Reaper and Fondor Haulcraft as well. (They could always do an imperial BP to coincide with Andor sets whilst not taking any of its set slots) 4 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said: Adults really need to drill into their heads the fact that most kids who end up getting sets, including battle packs, usually get no more than two of them. A fraction of a single percent of the LSW community has the desire and the means to “army build” in excess, and Lego shouldn’t be catering to this group. Most kids are more than happy to receive six troops in a single $40 set and don’t need more. The reason why Lego doesn’t mind putting named characters in battle packs is because the overwhelming majority of the target audience get exactly one of them, and no more. My philosophy is the rule of two. Unless it’s a really amassable unit (like stormtroopers or P1 clones.) But yeah. Army builders do need to realise that kids want 1-2 bps and then call it a day. Quote
TheScaryDoor Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 45 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I'll be disappointed if the mystery Andor set is a Battle Pack. Will you also be disappointed when it will be a Dedra Battle Pack 😁? I hope for a Fonder or buildable Droide. Quote
Kaijumeister Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 3 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said: I hope for a Fonder or buildable Droide. As much as I think a buildable K2 would work really well, I sincerely hope the second Andor set is a proper set and not another statue / display piece. Was hoping the summer wave would be devoid of more display pieces given how front-loaded 2025 already is with them (at this rate, will they actually outnumber minifigure scale sets?) but an Ewok does make some sense and will go nicely with Threepio and Artoo. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 1 hour ago, TheScaryDoor said: Will you also be disappointed when it will be a Dedra Battle Pack 😁? No. I will be in heaven. If by "Dedra Battle Pack" you mean a set with Dedra and three Death Troopers to protect her, that is. There's only one Dedra, and I love her to the fullest extent. Quote
AD_Bricks Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 2 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said: Adults really need to drill into their heads the fact that most kids who end up getting sets, including battle packs, usually get no more than two of them. A fraction of a single percent of the LSW community has the desire and the means to “army build” in excess, and Lego shouldn’t be catering to this group. Most kids are more than happy to receive six troops in a single $40 set and don’t need more. The reason why Lego doesn’t mind putting named characters in battle packs is because the overwhelming majority of the target audience get exactly one of them, and no more. Yes, exactly! The whole concept of an "army builder" doesn't mean you absolutely have to be able to buy several hundred to amass a lore-accurate army, and the people that do that certainly achieve impressive things, but there aren't enough people like that to cater all battle packs to them specifically. People often "build their army" by buying one single battle pack. It still helps to build up your army so that you have, like, six stormtroopers as opposed to two. Heck, even the jedi and clone troopers battle pack is, in my opinion, a good army builder, because although it doesn't really make sense to buy lots, buying one gets you a couple of clones to add to your collection, and a couple of jedi that aren't Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, or Mace Windu for you to use to recreate scenes on Geonosis or in the Jedi Temple, etc. Quote
ARC2149Nova Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 1 hour ago, AD_Bricks said: Heck, even the jedi and clone troopers battle pack is, in my opinion, a good army builder, because although it doesn't really make sense to buy lots, buying one gets you a couple of clones to add to your collection, and a couple of jedi that aren't Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, or Mace Windu for you to use to recreate scenes on Geonosis or in the Jedi Temple, etc. I've been saying this for years! Also, people act like you have to use the given figures as is. Figbarfs are a thing. Every battle pack has its use. Quote
Llewop Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 I can’t find the post if it was here or on Reddit but someone speculated the other Andor set could be a buildable K2S0 and now it is haunting my dreams Lego love their buildable things atm even though by summer we will still have C3P0, R2, Grogu and an Ewok. i do hope the 2nd Andor set is imperial orientated seeing as its releasing later in the year I’m going to take an educated guess that it is a “spoiler” set ie something from the finale or later in the show. Re the battle packs should be up to the individual but I’d say vast majority given the prices of LSW sets and the competition with other themes (ninjago, marvel) kids will only get one maybe two. Only us afol might get more I normally pick up a few depending on who is in the pack like the last summers one with the imperial commandos and Mandolorian ive picked up 3 and planning on getting a 4th as it’s fairly cheap in some shops in the U.K. atm. For me that’s because I quite like the figures included. for me a battle pack should have variety be it trooper type, mixture of factions or even a named character. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 11 minutes ago, Llewop said: I can’t find the post if it was here or on Reddit but someone speculated the other Andor set could be a buildable K2S0 and now it is haunting my dreams Lego love their buildable things atm even though by summer we will still have C3P0, R2, Grogu and an Ewok. Buildable B2EMO is much likelier than a buildable K-2SO methinks. (But I hope it's neither. Just give us a regular set with minifigures.) Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 I personally hope the second Andor set is either the Fondor or the TIE Avenger we saw in the teaser Any buildable character will be a complete waste of bricks as usual Quote
Flawless Cowboy Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 22 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: I personally hope the second Andor set is either the Fondor or the TIE Avenger we saw in the teaser Any buildable character will be a complete waste of bricks as usual If it’s the TIE avenger I hope they stick with the bomber/fighter scale rather than the interceptor. Saves on money, pieces, and matches the rest of the recent collection better. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 16 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: We are getting another Andor set in the Summer! What a day to be alive. Twice the sets, double the Dedra. 16 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: A scary reality is that he might actually now be considered a reliable source. What was first just a dream has now become a frightening reality for those who may oppose us. 11 hours ago, Coryo said: An Imperial vehicle seems like the most probable option for the other Andor set, which would increase the likelihood of getting Dedra as a minifig, Krennic is also pretty likely to show up in either these sets or something in 2026 Agreed- a battle pack or the Avenger, unless they heard our Fondor-related cries. 22 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: I personally hope the second Andor set is either the Fondor or the TIE Avenger we saw in the teaser Any buildable character will be a complete waste of bricks as usual Agreed, though I'd take a battle pack with the Ferrix speeder. Very happy to hear about more Andor, it belies a faith in the show's continued success that I hope paid off. This season seems to be more action-focused so it'd be cool if it broke more into that general audience who tunes in to watch mando bust heads, for instance. Buildable ewok was inevitable. I've been predicting it for ages. Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 12 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: If I was to guess, I'd say it's either Luthen's Fondor or a TIE Avenger. Those make the most sense I think. LEGO would have had more time to work on the Fondor (as it appeared in S1), but TIEs sell well and I think they could knock out a good TIE Avenger in a regular development cycle. I am personally hoping for the TIE Avenger (marketed as a rival for the U-wing), with the Fondor coming in 2026 (possibly at a larger scale, to capture more of the adult market?). 7 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I'll be disappointed if the mystery Andor set is a Battle Pack. I would be OK with that, if we get Army or Security troopers! Throw in an officer with a poncho or overcoat and an Army/Security trooper without armour, and it would be one of the best battle packs LEGO has made! Quote
Samppu Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said: I would be OK with that, if we get Army or Security troopers! Throw in an officer with a poncho or overcoat and an Army/Security trooper without armour, and it would be one of the best battle packs LEGO has made! Totally agree! Imperial battlepack, yes please! Particularly a one including anything more obscure than simple stormtroopers. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said: I would be OK with that, if we get Army or Security troopers! Throw in an officer with a poncho or overcoat and an Army/Security trooper without armour, and it would be one of the best battle packs LEGO has made! I'd like something like Stormtrooper^tm and Army Trooper battle pack ($19.99): 2x stormtrooper, 2x imperial army trooper. Comes with a patrol speeder like the one on Ferrix. Quote
Swordy Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 All I want for Christmas (in 2025) is a Fondor… oooh, something-something! Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I'd like something like Stormtrooper^tm and Army Trooper battle pack ($19.99): 2x stormtrooper, 2x imperial army trooper. Comes with a patrol speeder like the one on Ferrix. This guy gets it. 2 hours ago, Swordy said: All I want for Christmas (in 2025) is a Fondor… oooh, something-something! Tie Reaper, Imperial Army BP (as seen above), General Kenobi minifig (with arm printing), Rogue Two: B2EM0’s Vengeance…. Quote
ArrowBricks Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) From Instagram - reliable source Maxbautde. Plo Koon’s JSF = Microfighter. Night Trooper BP = small patrol gunship; still not clear if Enoch is in this set. A new Clone Pilot is to be released that is not the Clone Commander as per the UCS Gunsip debacle. Max describes the summer wave as “fans are eating good next summer”. Edited November 26, 2024 by ArrowBricks Quote
JohnTPT17 Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said: Plo Koon’s JSF = Microfighter. I'm sure some people are going to be mad at that news, but let me just say I'm happy about that! The only thing that it could mean is that Plo could be missing his cape, which would be a downer, but I could take more of these "in-demand minifigs in a microfighter" sets. I also wonder if it'll be a retailor exclusive for a bit, like Rex was? 5 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said: Night Trooper BP = small patrol gunship; still not clear if Enoch is in this set. Probably the best way to go with this - good to hear it's confirmed. 5 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said: Max describes the summer wave as “fans are eating good next summer”. Max Rebo mech confirmed?! Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said: From Instagram - reliable source Maxbautde. Plo Koon’s JSF = Microfighter. Holy cow. I might get it now. I hope the figure has TCW gauntlets. 1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said: A new Clone Pilot is to be released that is not the Clone Commander as per the UCS Gunsip debacle. What could they do though? We’ve got 2 Republic aircraft coming already. With the gunship still on shelves. Only things they could possibly do are: Y-Wing V-19 Torrent Dropship Republic Attack Shuttle (with actually would be cool but destroys chances of Tie Reaper) Gunship (Ball turret loadout) (actually I wouldn’t mind that especially if it came with a good complement of troopers) I guess the good news is that they’re making Phase 1 clones again. 1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said: Night Trooper BP = small patrol gunship; still not clear if Enoch is in this set. Ok. I was hoping for a howler and a proper patrol gunship set. 1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said: Max describes the summer wave as “fans are eating good next summer”. MARA JADEEEEEE??!????! Edited November 26, 2024 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 Huh, very glad to be wrong. Cheap Plo Koon= HELL YEAH Quote
CallumPears Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 15 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I'd like something like Stormtrooper^tm and Army Trooper battle pack ($19.99): 2x stormtrooper, 2x imperial army trooper. Comes with a patrol speeder like the one on Ferrix. As someone who still doesn't like the new Stormtroopers, and who already has too many of the old ones, I'd prefer if they limited the figures in a hypothetical Andor pack to just the "rarer" troop types from Andor. So, keep it to Army Troopers (preferably the Aldhani versions but I'd be fine with some Ferrix security troopers too) and maybe a Shoretrooper. At this point any Stormtrooper minifigures I get go straight into a box never to be seen again, and even without actively trying to get them I've already got quite a few from sets like the Tantive IV hallway, the Imperial Armoured Marauder, etc. They're not exactly hard to get so a battle pack appearance would feel a bit pointless to me, especially since we also have the anniversary set now too. As for Plo's starfighter being a microfighter... not exactly thrilled about that. I love the 2010 set but it definitely shows its age (it was only the 3rd Delta-7 made and they've come a long way since then) and is based on TCW. A RotS version to pair with the ARC-170 would've been great and it's not like it's a set which would be too expensive for most people (unlike the Venator where it was a good thing that they brought Rex into a cheaper set). Same goes for the Night Trooper pack having a chibi patrol gunship. I want a 'real' set of that vehicle, not a barely-recognisable pile of bricks to make an arbitrary contractually-obligated battle pack build. I'm worried it's going to end up being like calling the build in the Jedi+Clones pack a Republic Gunship (that's probably my least favourite of all battle pack builds, and the figures in that set don't exactly save it. I saw someone earlier mention figbashing to reuse the named characters but Barriss and Ki-Adi are, like, the worst characters to do that with due to how distinctive all of their parts are). Quote
Flawless Cowboy Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 Very disappointed to hear Plo’s starfighter is a microfighter. Lego had JUST figured out how to make a great-looking Delta 7 with Jedi Bob’s Star fighter, I was very much looking forward to this. 32 minutes ago, CallumPears said: Same goes for the Night Trooper pack having a chibi patrol gunship. I want a 'real' set of that vehicle, not a barely-recognisable pile of bricks Yup. Could’ve easily been a standalone set. Lego rarely makes good-looking side builds in battle packs unless they’re tiny in-universe like STAP speeders Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 2 hours ago, ArrowBricks said: Plo Koon’s JSF = Microfighter. A cheap new Plo Koon is good, but I am NOT happy about this just being a Microfighter (I was looking forward to seeing the wing details with modern tiles and techniques!). I hope that he is the TCW version, but since LEGO cheaped out on arm printing for Ahsoka, I highly doubt that Plo will have any. 😕 Since we rarely get unique Minifigs for Microfighters, this means that Plo is probably appearing in a larger set later in the year (possibly 2025’s Republic vehicle), so all hope for Wolffe is not lost! 2 hours ago, ArrowBricks said: Night Trooper BP = small patrol gunship; still not clear if Enoch is in this set. That makes sense for a build, though we do need a Minifig-scale version! The uncertainty over Enoch makes me think that the leaker is looking at a blurry pic of the set, which unfortunately rules out any Double Death Troopers (Enoch has the same colours as the other Night Troopers, unlike the DDTs). 3 hours ago, ArrowBricks said: A new Clone Pilot is to be released that is not the Clone Commander as per the UCS Gunsip debacle. P1 or P2? We basically have open-helmet P2s confirmed with the ARC-170, so is this a second Clone Pilot variant? 18 hours ago, Samppu said: Totally agree! Imperial battlepack, yes please! Particularly a one including anything more obscure than simple stormtroopers. I hope that we get some redesigned Snowtroopers for TMaG! 17 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I'd like something like Stormtrooper^tm and Army Trooper battle pack ($19.99): 2x stormtrooper, 2x imperial army trooper. Comes with a patrol speeder like the one on Ferrix. Too many Stormies, IMO; 1x Stormtrooper, 1x Imperial officer (black uniform, poncho print), 2x Security Trooper (helmet and armour) would be better for a Ferrix riot BP. Quote
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