LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Mr Ogel]

A "The Mandalorian & Grogu" movie and a 2nd season of Ahsoka was now announced on starwars.com

[BrickBob Studpants]

Personally, I’m a bit conflicted about the news. If the film replaces Mando S4, I’ll feel better about it, since it could then better lead into the Mandoverse movie. Going back from a theatrical movie to another season of a streaming show and back to a movie again would be a pretty weird transition. And the story needs to be big enough to justify a movie! That said, I trust Favreau with it

At least we’re in for some cool sets then, even though this means TLG gets EVEN MORE excuses to spam Din and Grogu minifigs. By the time the Mandoverse is over, we will have more minifigs of those two than a lot of the OT/PT/ST main characters  

Edited January 10, 2024 by BrickBob Studpants

[Flawless Cowboy]

Aside from the razor crest, which capitalized on a well-known ship from a beloved property (at the time), the only non-Lucas era UCS set I see being made is Mando’s N1, and the movie would be an ideal time to release it. 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Flawless Cowboy

[NoOneOfImportance]

21 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Aside from the razor crest, which capitalized on a well-known ship from a beloved property (at the time), the only non-Lucas era UCS set I see being made is Mando’s N1, and the movie would be an ideal time to release it. 

Frankly, I wouldn't count out the Sequel Trilogy for UCS sets. It will just take time for people to warm up to the movies more again, as inevitably will happen with at least TFA (just like it has happened with the PT). 

[Flawless Cowboy]

10 minutes ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

Frankly, I wouldn't count out the Sequel Trilogy for UCS sets. It will just take time for people to warm up to the movies more again, as inevitably will happen with at least TFA (just like it has happened with the PT). 

People aren’t “warming up” to the sequel trilogy, I keep hearing this myth and yet there is no generation of kids chomping at the bit to get sequel toys like they were craving clone and droid toys during the prequel era, sequel toys aren’t lining toy aisles because no one wants them. The fact that most sequel ships are hardly distinguishable from their more iconic OT analogues doesn’t help. Believe me, I’d LOVE a Kylo shuttle, but the fact that the only sequel set Lego has put out since the TRoS wave is last year’s holiday diorama doesn’t bode well. Prequel sets never stopped coming out after the movies were over and lambasted by critics.

[Yperio_Bricks]

I'd love to see Lego releasing more sequel sets, als well as sets for Solo and R1, but with only so many sets released each year and the Star Wars franchise constantly growing with new shows and upcomming movies it's getting really cramped and media with a bad standing will hardly get any sets in the future me thinks

[BrickBob Studpants]

21 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

I'd love to see Lego releasing more sequel sets, als well as sets for Solo and R1, but with only so many sets released each year and the Star Wars franchise constantly growing with new shows and upcomming movies it's getting really cramped and media with a bad standing will hardly get any sets in the future me thinks

At least all of them got much better coverage right out of the gate compared to the PT back in the day, for instance  Even side characters and minor ships were realised! Of course there are still substantial gaps, but I’m satisfied with what we got  That said, I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for the anniversary figures to fill some of these gaps!

Edited January 10, 2024 by BrickBob Studpants

[icm]

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Prequel sets never stopped coming out after the movies were over and lambasted by critics.

That's because there were only two model years between RotS and TCW, 2006 and 2007. There were a couple of sequel sets the model year after TRoS, 2020.

[Flawless Cowboy]

32 minutes ago, icm said:

That's because there were only two model years between RotS and TCW, 2006 and 2007. There were a couple of sequel sets the model year after TRoS, 2020.

I meant prequel sets unrelated to TCW, not just clone sets. It’s been three years and Lego has released one gimmick set from the ST. The prequels never had a dry spell. Hell, the Mandalorian, which came out after the ST, has received a UCS set and a few exhibition models like the helmets before the sequels got a single one. 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Flawless Cowboy

[icm]

TCW was in the prequel era and visited all prequel locations, thus keeping all the ships and locations of the prequels relevant. Also, interest in The Phantom Menace in 2011 was driven by the 2012 3d re-release. The Filoni shows have been in the post-RotJ era but not in the ST era, and Lego has not been shy about making sets from other movies and eras that are relevant to the Filoni shows: the synergy between the Mando S2 Slave 1, the RotJ Imperial Shuttle, and the TCW S7 Mandalorian Starfighter in 2021 was very deliberate on the part of the theme planners, because they knew they would all appear together in Mando S2. The point is that if there were ST era content in the Lucasfilm pipeline it would also be in the Lego pipeline. Simple as that. What Lego makes as a set has far more to do with what Lucasfilm is making as a show than with what "the fans want".

[Flawless Cowboy]

9 minutes ago, icm said:

TCW was in the prequel era and visited all prequel locations, thus keeping all the ships and locations of the prequels relevant. Also, interest in The Phantom Menace in 2011 was driven by the 2012 3d re-release. The Filoni shows have been in the post-RotJ era but not in the ST era, and Lego has not been shy about making sets from other movies and eras that are relevant to the Filoni shows: the synergy between the Mando S2 Slave 1, the RotJ Imperial Shuttle, and the TCW S7 Mandalorian Starfighter in 2021 was very deliberate on the part of the theme planners, because they knew they would all appear together in Mando S2. The point is that if there were ST era content in the Lucasfilm pipeline it would also be in the Lego pipeline. Simple as that. What Lego makes as a set has far more to do with what Lucasfilm is making as a show than with what "the fans want".

That’s a stretch, by the same token any on-screen appearance of an x-wing, y-wing, a-wing, tie fighter, AT-AT, AT-ST, Star Destroyer, and others I’m sure I’ve missed could easily inspire Lego to release the corresponding versions from the sequel trilogy, but they haven’t. Instead, we’ve gotten fringe OT versions like the Hoth AT-ST. Also by the same token, the reason supplementary media for the sequel trilogy is minuscule compared to supplementary media for the clone wars era is the same reason there are no sequel toys: there’s no interest to touch this phase of Star Wars. It’s also why the next Rey movie is set far in advance of the ST. It’s very telling that prequels, clone wars, and even the mandalorian have wormed their way into the display lines typically reserved for the OT, but obvious sequel candidates like Kylo’s helmet haven’t been made. We got a dark trooper helmet before a sequel helmet. Lego is comfortable making a gunship based on a variant that is on-screen for thirty seconds in an episode that first aired over fifteen years ago before they touch anything tangential to the sequels, and as I said, there are countless tie-in opportunities because the visual language of the ST is near identical to the OT

[ArrowBricks]

29 minutes ago, icm said:

TCW was in the prequel era and visited all prequel locations, thus keeping all the ships and locations of the prequels relevant. Also, interest in The Phantom Menace in 2011 was driven by the 2012 3d re-release. The Filoni shows have been in the post-RotJ era but not in the ST era, and Lego has not been shy about making sets from other movies and eras that are relevant to the Filoni shows: the synergy between the Mando S2 Slave 1, the RotJ Imperial Shuttle, and the TCW S7 Mandalorian Starfighter in 2021 was very deliberate on the part of the theme planners, because they knew they would all appear together in Mando S2. The point is that if there were ST era content in the Lucasfilm pipeline it would also be in the Lego pipeline. Simple as that. What Lego makes as a set has far more to do with what Lucasfilm is making as a show than with what "the fans want".

 

3 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

That’s a stretch, by the same token any on-screen appearance of an x-wing, y-wing, a-wing, tie fighter, AT-AT, AT-ST, Star Destroyer, and others I’m sure I’ve missed could easily inspire Lego to release the corresponding versions from the sequel trilogy, but they haven’t. Instead, we’ve gotten fringe OT versions like the Hoth AT-ST. Also by the same token, the reason supplementary media for the sequel trilogy is minuscule compared to supplementary media for the clone wars era is the same reason there are no sequel toys: there’s no interest to touch this phase of Star Wars. It’s also why the next Rey movie is set far in advance of the ST. It’s very telling that prequels, clone wars, and even the mandalorian have wormed their way into the display lines typically reserved for the OT, but obvious sequel candidates like Kylo’s helmet haven’t been made. We got a dark trooper helmet before a sequel helmet. Lego is comfortable making a gunship based on a variant that is on-screen for thirty seconds in an episode that first aired over fifteen years ago before they touch anything tangential to the sequels, and as I said, there are countless tie-in opportunities because the visual language of the ST is near identical to the OT

My view is that both these arguments sit at the opposite ends of the spectrum when in reality it’s something in-between. 

[Flawless Cowboy]

1 minute ago, ArrowBricks said:

 

My view is that both these arguments sit at the opposite ends of the spectrum when in reality it’s something in-between. 

Spoken like a real Jedi 

[Brickwraith]

15 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

there’s no interest to touch this phase of Star Wars.

This exact argument was made about the prequels. Trying to claim they were beloved upon release is just denying history. The entirety of my childhood I loved the prequels as did the kids around me, but every piece of media and adults was just saying how horrible they were. I remember when all anyone would talk about them was how annoying jar jar was or how they overused CGI. It's the exact same way now, except there are other star wars properties besides the sequel era releasing to make sets based on. The same was not true back in 2008, when clone wars was the only thing releasing. Star Wars is cyclical, the same thing happens with every new generation of the fanbase.

Also, if lego was just basing everything off of fan reactions we would have gotten another rogue one set by now lol

[Flawless Cowboy]

7 minutes ago, Brickwraith said:

This exact argument was made about the prequels

No it wasn’t. You said it yourself, kids loved it, and the toys and media, whether it be games or the 2008 TCW series proved it. Nine years after TPM and prequel content and kid’s goodies was plentiful. It’s been nine years since TFA, we know the roadmap of Star Wars content, and there’s no equivalent to supplant the sequels, whether in media or in toy lines. Yes, Lego bases most things off of what fans are likely to buy. No, what eurobricks or Reddit wants from Lego isn’t a reflection of what the general Lego-buying population wants from Lego. These are echo chambers and people think certain voices are much louder than they are in reality. Money talks, and no one is selling sequels. 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Flawless Cowboy

[Brickwraith]

4 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

No it wasn’t. You said it yourself, kids loved it, and the toys and media, whether it be games or the 2008 TCW series proved it. Nine years after TPM and prequel content and kid’s goodies was plentiful. It’s been nine years since TFA, we know the roadmap of Star Wars content, and there’s no equivalent to supplant the sequels, whether in media or in toy lines. Yes, Lego bases most things off of what fans are likely to buy. No, what eurobricks or Reddit wants from Lego isn’t a reflection of what the general Lego-buying population wants from Lego. These are echo chambers and people think certain voices are much louder than they are in reality. Money talks, and no one is selling sequels. 

Are you a kid that is super up to date on what they think about star wars

also why are they making the rey movie if there is no desire for sequel related things

and why is the mandoverse connecting itself up with stuff like Hux's dad

[Flawless Cowboy]

7 minutes ago, Brickwraith said:

Are you a kid that is super up to date on what they think about star wars

also why are they making the rey movie if there is no desire for sequel related things

No, but the relentless, money-sucking market is super up to date on what kids think, and it clearly shows that they don’t care about the sequels. 
 

The Rey movie is set well in advance of the ST, devoid of the other ST characters who are either dead or refuse to reprise their roles, in what is essentially a fresh-start Galaxy. It may as well be an episode 7 reboot. The first order is gone, kylo is gone, and Boyega won’t fall for the same trick twice, Rey is the only connection here. 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Flawless Cowboy

[Brickwraith]

5 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

The Rey movie is set well in advance of the ST, devoid of the other ST characters who are either dead or refuse to reprise their roles, in what is essentially a fresh-start Galaxy. It may as well be an episode 7 reboot. 

All we know about it is Rey is gonna be in it and a time jump is just a natural story structure thing. I don't think there's enough info out there to say that it's rebooting the sequels, and the act of continuing the main sequel characters story alone would suggest that's not the case

well anyway, i'm gonna stop commenting on this now before the mods get mad for being off topic

Edited January 10, 2024 by Brickwraith

[Flawless Cowboy]

Just now, Brickwraith said:

All we know about it is Rey is gonna be in it and a time jump is just a natural story structure thing. I don't think there's enough info out there to say that it's rebooting the sequels, and the act of continuing the main sequel characters story alone would suggest that's not the case

I’m not saying it’s a reboot, I’m saying it’s the most inoffensive way they could have possibly continued the Star Wars universe without completely starting over while very tenuously pulling on a single thread from the sequels. Kylo is gone, the first order is gone, and Boyega won’t fall for the same trick twice. 

[Big_Daddy]

I don't think the ST can be compared with the PT in terms of, let's say, delayed popularity, and I'm not saying that because I despise the ST movies. I don't know how long we'll have to wait before ST fans will be forced to admit that but well. In 2015 five system scale TPM sets got released, so maybe if we get the same amount of system scale TFA sets in 2031, I'd be willing to reevaluate my assessment.

That being said, the ST did have some (really) cool designs so I wouldn't mind more sets from those movies. If only to make the dozens of ST fans happy 

Anyway, to stay on (or get back to the) topic, I'm getting kind of impatient about seeing those March sets. I'm also curious about the second polybag, fingers crossed for a tiny little SW set with a minifig for a change.

Edited January 10, 2024 by Big_Daddy

[HothFan1987]

Disappointing (but not surprising) news that Ahsoka season 2 is happening, but if it means we get a Chimaera set at least there will be a silver lining. 

[ginja]

27 minutes ago, HothFan1987 said:

Disappointing (but not surprising) news that Ahsoka season 2 is happening, but if it means we get a Chimaera set at least there will be a silver lining. 

Why disappointing? I get not enjoying something, or not being interested or excited in something, but why disappointed? Don't watch it.

[MaximillianRebo]

I think every time the question of 'why don't we get sets from such and such trilogy/point in the timeline, we did back in the 2000s' the answer is always: There's just too much content now and not enough spots on the shelves. Back in 2007 there was only the OT and PT, and Clone Wars was just getting started. Now it's gestures broadly at everything. As far as the ST is concerned, every new show is dropping tidbits about where the story is going and TLG is following suit where they see fit, like with the NR pilots and officer in the Ahsoka sets. If there was more explicit ST material, particularly involving vehicles, I'm sure TLG would be right on board.

The compounding issue is that waves - apart from getting seemingly smaller as well as more spread out - are comprising of fewer and fewer system sets than say 15 years ago. Back then it was mostly wall to wall system sets that covered a handful of films and one TV show, now there's helmets, dioramas, midi builds etc. competing for release slots to cover more than 10 films and almost as many TV shows. So between new release merchandise, the Clone Wars kick that Lego seems to be on at the moment, plus releases of evergreen OT vehicles, that's pretty much it for any given wave and no other media is even close to getting a look in.

[Minishark2000]

9 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

People aren’t “warming up” to the sequel trilogy, I keep hearing this myth and yet there is no generation of kids chomping at the bit to get sequel toys like they were craving clone and droid toys during the prequel era, sequel toys aren’t lining toy aisles because no one wants them. The fact that most sequel ships are hardly distinguishable from their more iconic OT analogues doesn’t help. Believe me, I’d LOVE a Kylo shuttle, but the fact that the only sequel set Lego has put out since the TRoS wave is last year’s holiday diorama doesn’t bode well. Prequel sets never stopped coming out after the movies were over and lambasted by critics.

Yeah I'd have to agree, the thing is even if you don't like the prequels and think they are bad films, you can tell they have love and imagination and worldbuilding from Lucas. Sequels on the other hand are both bad and have no soul and love put in them imo. I doubt there's gonna be some nostalgia wave for em in 10 or 15 years like we got for the prequels. It's been like 10 years since the force awakens and half the sets have barely appreciated when compared to their prequal and OT counterparts. Numbers of merchandise sold don't lie.

Btw guys and gals any news on the MBS/UCS Jabba's sail barge? I heard it was coming out in October of this year purportedly? And wasn't there that pic of the max rebo rubber head piece that was leaked many months ago hinting the piece had been put back into production?

I was just thinking about all of this when I was about to rebuild my 2013 sail barge. Unfortunately my fear of brittle brown gave me cold feet and I'm staring at 2 bags of the disassembled barge. Maybe I should sell it, idk.

[CallumPears]

25 minutes ago, Minishark2000 said:

Btw guys and gals any news on the MBS/UCS Jabba's sail barge? I heard it was coming out in October of this year purportedly? And wasn't there that pic of the max rebo rubber head piece that was leaked many months ago hinting the piece had been put back into production

Not 100% sure so someone correct me if I'm wrong but I heard the Max Rebo thing was fake. Just had a quick search and couldn't find confirmation either way though. 

As for the Barge as a whole, was there ever any information beyond it being in that survey to gauge interest? (Meaning it might not even happen at all.) I assumed the talk of it being released in October was just speculation.