LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Legofan2001]

19 minutes ago, whwiv said:

True—the ship's name wasn't un-canonized at all. Plus, the ship's name was never dropped in any on-screen media. Labelling Slave I merch as Slave I would easily be a bit confusing for someone who isn't older and more well-versed in off-screen lore and Wookieepedia.

That’s a dumb claim to make considering tons of Star Wars vehicles have names in Lego sets that could “confuse people” like the Razor Crest isn’t called “The Mandalorian’s Starship” or what about “The Justifer” like THAT is a name no one knows yet they didn’t rename it to “Cad Bane’s Freighter”. It’s very obvious that Disney decided that calling it the “Slave One” was not “politically correct” which is just flatout stupid cause like WHO EVER complained and thought the name “Slave One” was racist? 

[Kaijumeister]

Surely there’s no way the Barge won’t have an interior? Focusing on the exterior of things like capital ships and starfighters makes sense at the UCS scale but all things considered the Barge isn’t terribly big to begin with. I’m sure there’s supposed to be synergy between the UCS Khetanna and summer Escape from the Sarlacc sets just like what we got with the UCS AT-AT and 2022 Hoth sets.

I feel cautiously optimistic about the Death Star set, hopefully it does give us a decent playset and with the inclusion of Cal, one can just use it as a generic Imperial facility for him to cause some trouble around.

Delving into the ‘far fetched’ side of things but I’d love to see the white Ahsoka variant with a poncho this time.

Edited January 17, 2024 by Kaijumeister

[Mandalorianknight]

56 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

The ship was never renamed in-universe; merch branding just moved away from the Slave I name. I honestly think that this was done less because Disney is being weird and more because the name suits a villain’s ship far better than a hero(?)’s one. 

Not explicitly, but in TBOBF boba explicitly refers to it as a firespray craft. Technically speaking this doesn't de-canonize the name, but there was an interview with Temura Morrison where he talks about it and it's pretty clear they were explicitly told not to call it Slave One. 

As for the latter part... the ship is named the slave one- at least in legends- not because Jango was going "haha I endorse the action of slavery and this ship will be a reference to this fact" but because Jango Fett was a slave who defeated his oppressors. It's a pretty damn heroic name in that light and if they were worried about the general optics, just have Boba explain the backstory of it to Fennec on-screen. It's not like they were afraid of flashbacks in that show. I'm not saying every piece of merch has to have the name plastered all over it- I wouldn't even be annoyed about the set missing it if not for the fact they regularly do similarly obscure names- but it's absurd for them to dance around saying the name in the show.

17 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said:

That’s a dumb claim to make considering tons of Star Wars vehicles have names in Lego sets that could “confuse people” like the Razor Crest isn’t called “The Mandalorian’s Starship” or what about “The Justifer” like THAT is a name no one knows yet they didn’t rename it to “Cad Bane’s Freighter”. It’s very obvious that Disney decided that calling it the “Slave One” was not “politically correct” which is just flatout stupid cause like WHO EVER complained and thought the name “Slave One” was racist? 

Totally agree We've had this discussion back when the change was first made so I'm gonna try not to keep making posts about it, but that was pretty clearly disney's reason for dropping the name, which means I can't wait for the new 25th anniversary cut of TPM where Anakin and Shmi are paid employees of Watto.

 

But to get more back to the central point of the topic- whatever disney's inane decisions about "controversial" names and characters in star wars are, I highly doubt it would stop the barge from having a larger figure selection. It CERTAINLY wouldn't prevent them from putting Jabba himself in the barge, and I still can't believe it won't have him in it. I can't think of a single UCS set that's come with minifigures, but not the pilot of the craft. Maybe Obi-Wan's starfighter from 2010, if that came with his astromech as a minifigure. And even then, Obi-wan wouldn't have fit in the seat, and it's a ship people want for the ship, not the scene. I mantain that a sail barge without Jabba and a number of figs would sell extremely poorly because there is a very small number of people interested in the barge just as a vehicle design, and not to display the scenes taking place on/around it.

[Classic_Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Not explicitly, but in TBOBF boba explicitly refers to it as a firespray craft. 

It has been a Firespray since the Legends days; that was not something made up for the show. 

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

but it's absurd for them to dance around saying the name in the show.

It is really just a quirk of the live-action shows to call ships by their classes rather than specific names; Mando's Razor Crest and N-1 are unnamed, as is Luthan's Fondor Haulcraft (he only calls it "the Fondor"). 
 

[MKJoshA]

This last page of discussion is close to being on track. But driving in the ditch is still driving in the ditch, not the road. Let's try to keep the discussion more about Lego and less about politics or marketing decisions.

[Mandalorianknight]

It is sort of irrelevant to the barge, in the end. Whether or not disney would let lego make huttslayer/slave leia, or if lego themselves would, etc, isn't really the point of contention when foggy suggested JABBA HIMSELF is not in the barge. That's the much bigger issue with the set IMO- 90% of star wars fans know the khetanna as "Jabba's sail barge"- it's 100% what lego will call it, and yet, the Jabba of Jabba's sail barge isn't present? It doesn't make any sense. I'm still chalking it up to an early prelim or something- foggy intoned that may have been the case, and a jabba's sail barge with only two figs- neither of them jabba- is to harebrained even for the same lego group that brought us the elongated hulkbuster and the slow death of the batman theme.

Edited January 17, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[Minishark2000]

Let's say we get the jabba, which I'm leaning towards to be fair to Lego. Would it be the same mold? I think so? Would it be the same print as the 2012-2013 jabba? Probably not I don't think. Maybe some print that's more "realistic" looking, more gritty and a bit more detail?

[CloneCommando99]

Hello, new here. Does anyone else think that the Death Star playset could perhaps include a hangar control centre? As the rumoured minifigure selection from MaxBaut would fit in perfectly with that room. (In my opinion.)

[Minishark2000]

5 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Hello, new here. Does anyone else think that the Death Star playset could perhaps include a hangar control centre? As the rumoured minifigure selection from MaxBaut would fit in perfectly with that room. (In my opinion.)

Who knows, imo it'll be like 3 or 4 rooms, I'm hoping for a mini tie advanced like the death star and a hanger control room, it would be awesome. I'm thinking we get a hanger, conference room, maybe some cell block? Can't really think of another room they would realistically make, the trash compactors been made already

[CloneCommando99]

15 minutes ago, Minishark2000 said:

Who knows, imo it'll be like 3 or 4 rooms, I'm hoping for a mini tie advanced like the death star and a hanger control room, it would be awesome. I'm thinking we get a hanger, conference room, maybe some cell block? Can't really think of another room they would realistically make, the trash compactors been made already

I doubt they’d include a mini Tie advanced. But with the emphasis on generic Imperial Military Personnel I wouldn’t be surprised if an armoury is included. What I do hope however is that all the rooms connect with an enclosed corridor and sliding doors. That and the officer is a proper Imperial captain (3 blue squares, 3 red squares) It’s the most common officer uniform in the OT and I don’t think Lego’s actually made it.

Edited January 17, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[Flawless Cowboy]

57 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That's the much bigger issue with the set IMO- 90% of star wars fans know the khetanna as "Jabba's sail barge"- it's 100% what lego will call it, and yet, the Jabba of Jabba's sail barge isn't present? It doesn't make any sense.

LSW has been more and more ambitious with adding interiors in their minifig scale UCS sets, from the UCS Falcon in 2017, to the massive usable space in the AT-AT, and the surprising amount nooks and crannies in the recent Razor Crest. It would be a wild regression for them to revert back to no interior, it would be like a set from the mid 2000’s. 

[ArrowBricks]

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

LSW has been more and more ambitious with adding interiors in their minifig scale UCS sets, from the UCS Falcon in 2017, to the massive usable space in the AT-AT, and the surprising amount nooks and crannies in the recent Razor Crest. It would be a wild regression for them to revert back to no interior, it would be like a set from the mid 2000’s. 

Of course this is the logic. But we are going off what we know as of now. 

[Classic_Spaceman]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

That and the officer is a proper Imperial captain (3 blue squares, 3 red squares) 

Officers on the Death Star should have single-line ranks, not double-line ones. Also, LEGO has made 3R/3B Captains multiple times; a new (affordable!) one would be nice at some point, though. 
 

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Minishark2000 said:

Let's say we get the jabba, which I'm leaning towards to be fair to Lego. Would it be the same mold? I think so? Would it be the same print as the 2012-2013 jabba? Probably not I don't think. Maybe some print that's more "realistic" looking, more gritty and a bit more detail?

I think it's very likely that if we do get a jabba, it'll be a new mold. My guess would be a molded "top half", and potentially a brick-built lower half. We have a lot more curved lego elements than we did even back in 2012/2013, and people like brick sheepa have made some very nice brick-built hutts at about the same size as the molded one. The detailing on the top half is obviously lower, since you can't get the level of detail a specialized mold like that has, but the bottom half has if anything MORE detail, and lego has generally been moving to increase the compatibility of molded creatures/figures with standard parts.

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Hello, new here. Does anyone else think that the Death Star playset could perhaps include a hangar control centre? As the rumoured minifigure selection from MaxBaut would fit in perfectly with that room. (In my opinion.)

It's really to early to tell. I think the only concrete info we have is the fig selection and that it's the death star.

That said, I think you have a chance- others have mentioned the midi-scale TIE advanced, which would be a great way to add playability.

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I doubt they’d include a mini Tie advanced. 

Why? They've done it before, 2 or three times. And it's an easy way to add playability to a playset, especially one that's gonna amount to gray rooms with figs only from one faction.

3 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

LSW has been more and more ambitious with adding interiors in their minifig scale UCS sets, from the UCS Falcon in 2017, to the massive usable space in the AT-AT, and the surprising amount nooks and crannies in the recent Razor Crest. It would be a wild regression for them to revert back to no interior, it would be like a set from the mid 2000’s. 

All that's true- I'm just going off what Foggy said.

[Llewop]

12 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That said, I think you have a chance- others have mentioned the midi-scale TIE advanced, which would be a great way to add playability.

I am warming up to the idea that this set could be an imperial counterpart to the Yavin set. What I imagined it could be like Home one set from year ago, where you have a ship (probably a Tie advanced as that’s the only one we haven’t had recently) and then a little hangar bay and maybe couple of other areas. It’s hard to think what else they could include on a Death Star set that supposedly or as far as we know doesn’t have any heroes in just Imperials. It’s such a strange price point that I am just wondering what the features are and to me the theory of having a ship of some sort is starting to make a bit of sense

[CallumPears]

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

That and the officer is a proper Imperial captain (3 blue squares, 3 red squares) It’s the most common officer uniform in the OT and I don’t think Lego’s actually made it.

Before 2012 all Imperial Officer minifigures (except Tarkin) were Captains though they are in the old style so don't really fit in with modern officers. In the newer style they have made one, in set 75055, but he's expensive now so yeah it'd be nice to get a newer one but as Classic_Spaceman pointed out we don't see any Captains on the Death Star (assuming it's the first Death Star- if the set is a mixture of rooms it could easily also be the 2nd Death Star where some Captains would make sense). 

The most common rank for Imperial officers, as seen in Empire Strikes Back, is supposed to be Lieutenant; the reason we see a lot of Captains in the OT is due to a costuming error which meant every officer in RotJ had the same rank plaque (even Piett who had his correct Admiral plaque in ESB- I guess they lost his costume between movies lol). I'm hoping we get another Lieutenant at some point (currently exclusive to the UCS Star Destroyer- weird choice since that set is based on A New Hope where we don't see any officers with that rank, and it's annoying that what should be a common figure is tied to such an expensive set). A set of a Star Destroyer bridge would be nice, maybe the Executor's bridge then we could get Admiral Ozzel, Captain Piett and a Lieutenant all at the same time. 

[Lordhelmet]

2 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Before 2012 all Imperial Officer minifigures (except Tarkin) were Captains though they are in the old style so don't really fit in with modern officers. In the newer style they have made one, in set 75055, but he's expensive now so yeah it'd be nice to get a newer one but as Classic_Spaceman pointed out we don't see any Captains on the Death Star (assuming it's the first Death Star- if the set is a mixture of rooms it could easily also be the 2nd Death Star where some Captains would make sense). 

The most common rank for Imperial officers, as seen in Empire Strikes Back, is supposed to be Lieutenant; the reason we see a lot of Captains in the OT is due to a costuming error which meant every officer in RotJ had the same rank plaque (even Piett who had his correct Admiral plaque in ESB- I guess they lost his costume between movies lol). I'm hoping we get another Lieutenant at some point (currently exclusive to the UCS Star Destroyer- weird choice since that set is based on A New Hope where we don't see any officers with that rank, and it's annoying that what should be a common figure is tied to such an expensive set). A set of a Star Destroyer bridge would be nice, maybe the Executor's bridge then we could get Admiral Ozzel, Captain Piett and a Lieutenant all at the same time. 

Agreed on the officers situation with Lego.  We really need another LT, a updated CPT rank, and some crew members (with grey hats).  We have had a lot of unique non OT officers but their rank does not line up and Sloane didn't have the hat.   Hoping the Death Star set has at least an LT or crew member unfortunately all of the LTs and crew members in the Death Star have the black uniform as far or black hat with grey uniform as far as I can tell.  Also hoping the set has a midi scale tie advanced (or one like the Vader's castle) with a small command center above the docking bay.  to make it a true counterpart to the Yavin set.  

[Minishark2000]

The Death Star playset price is what is making me a little skeptical for a true counterpart to Yavin, 80 USD? Like it might have a midi tie advanced, but the price is at a low point compared to yavin where I wouldn't be surprised if one wasn't included

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, Minishark2000 said:

The Death Star playset price is what is making me a little skeptical for a true counterpart to Yavin, 80 USD? Like it might have a midi tie advanced, but the price is at a low point compared to yavin where I wouldn't be surprised if one wasn't included

Just can’t figure out what an $80 set would look like especially just based on the Death Star. It might look silly but they could put a tie advanced the size of the one from vaders castle or one to a similar scale as the y wing. Off the top of my head I feel like there isn’t a lot of kind of rooms/locations on a Death Star that just features imperials in the film, unless there is a obi wan or Luke that hasn’t been revealed with this set 

[TheUnusualBuilder]

7 hours ago, Llewop said:

unless there is a obi wan or Luke that hasn’t been revealed with this set 

I don't know why I hadn't thought of this before, but the rumored minifigure selection includes two Stormtroopers... isn't it very possible that those are actually Luke and Han in their Stormtrooper disguises, which would make lots of sense for a Death Star playset?

Also I really hope it doesn't include a tiny TIE Advanced - we've already had THREE small versions of that ship, and all it's inclusion would do is put off the next release of an actual minifig-scale version while simultaneously eating up parts from the actual Death Star scene.

As for the actual structure of it I could see it looking a bit similar to the classic Kenner Death Star - essentially being a tower with all of the rooms connected by an elevator (which would be a fun play feature) and one of the cannons up top. Not sure what rooms they could include with the rumored minifigure selection (especially no Leia), but I think the control room (where the droids hide during the Death Star sequence) and the conference room are both likely.

Edited January 18, 2024 by TheUnusualBuilder

[Lordhelmet]

1 hour ago, TheUnusualBuilder said:

I don't know why I hadn't thought of this before, but the rumored minifigure selection includes two Stormtroopers... isn't it very possible that those are actually Luke and Han in their Stormtrooper disguises, which would make lots of sense for a Death Star playset?

Also I really hope it doesn't include a tiny TIE Advanced - we've already had THREE small versions of that ship, and all it's inclusion would do is put off the next release of an actual minifig-scale version while simultaneously eating up parts from the actual Death Star scene.

As for the actual structure of it I could see it looking a bit similar to the classic Kenner Death Star - essentially being a tower with all of the rooms connected by an elevator (which would be a fun play feature) and one of the cannons up top. Not sure what rooms they could include with the rumored minifigure selection (especially no Leia), but I think the control room (where the droids hide during the Death Star sequence) and the conference room are both likely.

The elevator would be great, that playset was awesome and I would be totally onboard for an elevator play feature or for the set to be like the Kenner one.  

I personally think the playset is meant to function with the Yavin Playset though (in the sense that you have the rebel base with rebel leaders troopers and the celebration scene, the imperial base with leaders? troopers?, and maybe the conference room or command bridge scene?, and a fight scene (Tantive Hallway) between the two factions).  I am leaning toward it having a small scale ship because of that, but could see it without one just to have a faction base opposed to the Yavin base.  I think its good for Kids with both playsets out and there are (hopefully) good minifigure options for collectors (I picked up some of the Yavin figures (Garven and Dutch) on Bricklink but will probably buy my kid Yavin at some point this year).  Just my thoughts but I am excited to see what this one is as it is probably the most mysterious of the summer wave other than the "creature build" and sail barge (mostly because there are no official leaks on that to my knowledge).

[CloneCommando99]

Just out of interest, isn’t the Tantive hallway playset supposed to be modular? If so could it mean that a Home one briefing room and bridge could release next year and connect with the hallway?

If not I would love the Death Star playset to be the start of an imperial base sub-line. One akin to the Ironman hall of armour sets. As in they can connect together to make one big imperial base.

[Chazinski]

4 hours ago, TheUnusualBuilder said:

I don't know why I hadn't thought of this before, but the rumored minifigure selection includes two Stormtroopers... isn't it very possible that those are actually Luke and Han in their Stormtrooper disguises, which would make lots of sense for a Death Star playset?

I hadn't thought of that. Honestly if that's the case, I wouldn't be against it; but the overall selection of Imperial staff sounds great as rumored. I'm happy either way.

 

4 hours ago, TheUnusualBuilder said:

Also I really hope it doesn't include a tiny TIE Advanced - we've already had THREE small versions of that ship, and all it's inclusion would do is put off the next release of an actual minifig-scale version while simultaneously eating up parts from the actual Death Star scene.

I agree. Haven't seen a play-scale version of that marvelous ship since the Rebel days...

[Big_Daddy]

6 hours ago, TheUnusualBuilder said:

Also I really hope it doesn't include a tiny TIE Advanced - we've already had THREE small versions of that ship, and all it's inclusion would do is put off the next release of an actual minifig-scale version while simultaneously eating up parts from the actual Death Star scene.

My thoughts exactly.

Also, that's a really fun idea about an imperial base subline. Like all those different pieces of Hogwarts in the Harry Potter subtheme.

I'm really curious about that set. It's bound to be something with several rooms/compartments, I can't see it being just one room because otherwise it would have been named something like 'Death Star hangar' instead of playset.

[Legofan2001]

23 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think it's very likely that if we do get a jabba, it'll be a new mold. My guess would be a molded "top half", and potentially a brick-built lower half. We have a lot more curved lego elements than we did even back in 2012/2013, and people like brick sheepa have made some very nice brick-built hutts at about the same size as the molded one. The detailing on the top half is obviously lower, since you can't get the level of detail a specialized mold like that has, but the bottom half has if anything MORE detail, and lego has generally been moving to increase the compatibility of molded creatures/figures with standard parts.

It's really to early to tell. I think the only concrete info we have is the fig selection and that it's the death star.

That said, I think you have a chance- others have mentioned the midi-scale TIE advanced, which would be a great way to add playability.

Why? They've done it before, 2 or three times. And it's an easy way to add playability to a playset, especially one that's gonna amount to gray rooms with figs only from one faction.

All that's true- I'm just going off what Foggy said.

The leaked Jabba in the cancelled throne room from last year looked the same as the 2012/2013 Jabba.