The Dark Knight

[SWMAN]

What an amazing movie. Just saw it yesterday. A lot darker than the first, but just as good. A lot will say it was better than the first. Not sure if I agree, but they are definitely equally great. Heath Ledger/The Joker was my favorite character. The acting was phenomenal. I don't want to ruin it for anyone, but just fyi Two-Face is a lot more graphic than in Batman Forever, so be warned. What does everyone else think?

[Rh3ttyC]

It was fantastic! The story line deeper and more involved than the previous or even the Tim Burton ones. When I saw Two-Face I thought Batman:3 FTW! Think they'll do another?

[tin7_creations]

I loved it. Joker commanded attention in every scene that he was in. Heath Ledger's performance surpasses every other actor in the film.

[Faramir]

Well the Joker sure seems to know how to do a good pencil trick!

I feel that it was an amazing last part for Heath Ledger, and that he should definitely win an Oscar.

Although I enjoyed the first one very much, Dark Knight was much better. The Joker might have been one of my favorite movie characters of all time, and the way he exploited humanity in chaos was amazing. I wanted to see it again as soon as it was over!

Edited July 20, 2008 by Faramir

[tin7_creations]

Well the Joker sure seems to know how to do a good pencil trick!

I feel that it was an amazing last part for Heath Ledger, and that he should definitely win an Oscar.

Although I enjoyed the first one very much, Dark Knight was much better. The Joker might have been one of my favorite movie characters of all time, and the way he exploited humanity in chaos was amazing. I wanted to see it again as soon as it was over!

Yes, his pencil trick is amazing. But I believe that he wants his phone call more.

[SWMAN]

The pencil trick was really cool. I would bet my life savings they make another one. The last few minutes set up a sequel. Even with what they did with certain characters, the way they ended it set up an obvious sequel. I really want to know what villains will be in the next one.

[tin7_creations]

The pencil trick was really cool. I would bet my life savings they make another one. The last few minutes set up a sequel. Even with what they did with certain characters, the way they ended it set up an obvious sequel. I really want to know what villains will be in the next one.

Well, Christopher Nolan seems to be trying to place a more realistic and darker tone to the Batman franchise. If we get a third one, I can't see him putting in villains like Clayface, Mr. Freeze, or Killer Croc. When we get a third one, and "Realistically speaking", I think that Nolan might put Riddler.

The Dark Knight has much deeper meaning than any other Batman movie, and you can tell that the villains (Joker and Two-Face) are heavily traumatized. Riddler has a very dark history (abusive family I think), Nolan would definitely be able to expand on that. And it would be quite exhilarating, to keep the audience constantly guessing. Nolan once said that Penguin is too unrealistic at this point in the franchise, so I doubt we'll see him anytime soon.

I would very much love to see Nolan's take on Riddler if he decides to put him in the third one, and he can even cast Jim Carey again, he's proven time over time that he can tackle many types of roles. As you can probably guess, I'm a huge Riddler fan.

Edited July 20, 2008 by tin7

[Wilhelm screamer]

Well, Christopher Nolan seems to be trying to place a more realistic and darker tone to the Batman franchise. If we get a third one, I can't see him putting in villains like Clayface, Mr. Freeze, or Killer Croc. When we get a third one, and "Realistically speaking", I think that Nolan might put Riddler.

The Dark Knight has much deeper meaning than any other Batman movie, and you can tell that the villains (Joker and Two-Face) are heavily traumatized. Riddler has a very dark history (abusive family I think), Nolan would definitely be able to expand on that. And it would be quite exhilarating, to keep the audience constantly guessing. Nolan once said that Penguin is too unrealistic at this point in the franchise, so I doubt we'll see him anytime soon.

I would very much love to see Nolan's take on Riddler if he decides to put him in the third one, and he can even cast Jim Carey again, he's proven time over time that he can tackle many types of roles. As you can probably guess, I'm a huge Riddler fan.

I honestly would have to Wholeheartedly agree with you.

[PSPguy]

Epic Megablocking Win, is all the needs to be said.

EDIT: Pardon my French. So amazed forgot to say that.

Edited July 20, 2008 by PSPguy

[Lt. Col. Thok]

Great movie, but the "death" of Two Face (He'll be back, no doubt...just don't ask how.) kinda spoiled it.

[Faramir]

I think it'll be really hard, after this movie, to make another sequel that can match it. Whatever villain they do choose, he/she'll have to be good.

[SWMAN]

Great movie, but the "death" of Two Face (He'll be back, no doubt...just don't ask how.) kinda spoiled it.

Please try to keep this thread Spoiler Free. I don't want to ruin it for other people. I agree that his death was surprising and did kind of ruin who I though would be in the sequel. But, I don't think he will come back. With Nolan trying to keep it real, he won't bring a character back from the dead. Too unrealistic. I agree that the Riddler would be a great choice. I believe I read somewhere that he said the Catwoman and the Penguin were out. The penguin was stupid before and would be stupid again, but the Catwoman might be doable. He has also said that Robin is out for now from the movies. I like that. Batman is young in these films, trying to find himself and his purpose. He doesn't need a sidekick to complicate things.

[tin7_creations]

I think it's kind of a pity that they didn't kill off The Joker. They should have done it, that way, we know that the Joker will never be back. Cause, quite frankly, NO ONE can portray the character as well as Heath Ledger. I think that they were trying to set up the story for a future sequel with Joker, but they did not count in the chances of Ledger dying.

[SWMAN]

Heath Ledger was amazing, but if no one had told me it was him, I would never have known.

[5150 Lego]

Well, Christopher Nolan seems to be trying to place a more realistic and darker tone to the Batman franchise. If we get a third one, I can't see him putting in villains like Clayface, Mr. Freeze, or Killer Croc. When we get a third one, and "Realistically speaking", I think that Nolan might put Riddler.

I have to disagree. In that line of thining, one would also have thought that the Scare Crow would also be to "unrealistic" to bring into batman begins, but they found a way to bring him in didn't they? If they really wanted to,there'e a way to bring in nearly every batman character there is. Some will just need to be more creative than others.

Though i haven'teven seen the movie yet, ami the only onewho thinks they new Batman movies are getting alittle TOO dark? I mean iv'eheard from nearly everyone who has seen it that the Dark Night was border line horror movie than it was batman. I'm all for taking a more realistic look at the series, but there cutting the line dangerously close. I would have seen it this weekend, but i had my 8 year old neice and nephew with me. Whats reallysad is my nephew is a batman freak, but i can't take him to see the dark Night cause it will for sure give him nightmares.

[SWMAN]

I have to disagree. In that line of thining, one would also have thought that the Scare Crow would also be to "unrealistic" to bring into batman begins, but they found a way to bring him in didn't they? If they really wanted to,there'e a way to bring in nearly every batman character there is. Some will just need to be more creative than others.

Though i haven'teven seen the movie yet, ami the only onewho thinks they new Batman movies are getting alittle TOO dark? I mean iv'eheard from nearly everyone who has seen it that the Dark Night was border line horror movie than it was batman. I'm all for taking a more realistic look at the series, but there cutting the line dangerously close. I would have seen it this weekend, but i had my 8 year old neice and nephew with me. Whats reallysad is my nephew is a batman freak, but i can't take him to see the dark Night cause it will for sure give him nightmares.

I have to disagree with you. I think that the movies are as realistic as they can get in Gotham City. There are going to be crazy and dark things going on with Batman. It is how it is and is going to be. The fact that they are realistic makes them less dark than the old ones. The penguin was way too crazy, and it made it just plain freaky. It is probably too dark for an 8 year old, which the old Batman movies are too. I think that you could bring in the Penguin or Killer Croc, but they would have to be way out there, and take away from the realism. The Joker, Two-Face, and Scarecrow were not too hard, because you can put a totally new spin on them without taking away from their core self. Penguin is just a crazy guy that looks like a penguin. No real core ideas or things to be known for. I believe that while the movie was dark, it was simply brilliant and brought in amazing villains while maintaining realism. The darkness simply added too the movie experience. Don't be so quick to criticize a movie you haven't seen. And don't compare every movie to what an 8 year old can handle. It is PG-13 for a reason. I know that he really wants to see it, but the movie just isn't right for him. Nolan knows that there are a lot of young fans, but he can't make a happy-go-lucky Batman movie just for them. Then he would not get any of the older fans, which there are a lot of. If the movie had been changed to be PG, it would have taken away from the movie, and honestly made it boring. Oh, and I do not mean to be rude, but try using some spell check.

[tin7_creations]

If they do use Riddler, I would so cast Johnny Depp. Of course, I think Edward Norton would be great for the character, but he's Hulk, and I don't think Marvel would like DC using one of their actors.

[5150 Lego]

Sorry. I typed that post in about 2 minutes right before leaving for a doctors apointment. Didn't even re-read it:cry_happy:

I have to disagree with you. I think that the movies are as realistic as they can get in Gotham City. There are going to be crazy and dark things going on with Batman. It is how it is and is going to be. The fact that they are realistic makes them less dark than the old ones.

That doesn't really make any sense to me. Just cause somthing is more "dark", doesn't really mean its going to add to the realisim of a film.

It is probably too dark for an 8 year old, which the old Batman movies are too. I think that you could bring in the Penguin or Killer Croc, but they would have to be way out there, and take away from the realism. The Joker, Two-Face, and Scarecrow were not too hard, because you can put a totally new spin on them without taking away from their core self. Penguin is just a crazy guy that looks like a penguin. No real core ideas or things to be known for.

There are plenty of ways you could introduce those characters and still keep the "realisim" you speak of of the first two movies. It might not be as easy as the Joker or two face, its defenatly doable. Its easy to say that the Scare Crow wasn't to hard cause you've already seen him take on a "new spin" as you put it.

I believe that while the movie was dark, it was simply brilliant and brought in amazing villains while maintaining realism. The darkness simply added too the movie experience. Don't be so quick to criticize a movie you haven't seen. And don't compare every movie to what an 8 year old can handle. It is PG-13 for a reason. I know that he really wants to see it, but the movie just isn't right for him. Nolan knows that there are a lot of young fans, but he can't make a happy-go-lucky Batman movie just for them. Then he would not get any of the older fans, which there are a lot of. If the movie had been changed to be PG, it would have taken away from the movie, and honestly made it boring. Oh, and I do not mean to be rude, but try using some spell check.

First off, i think your mis-interpeting what i meant by "Dark". It seems to me that your seeing "dark" in a simular fashion as the first two movies. While both Batman and Batman Returns were both "Dark" i felt it was dark the sence that the back ground was more of less that of a city that was old fashion, no warmth, and just run down and dungy. (sorry, not sure if thats rerally even a word). The Dark Night gets its Darkness from Batman himself, the villians,and the violence. Is that a bad thing? Yes and no.

Second, i'm not arguing that that takes away from the realisim of the movie, or makes it bad. I will defenatly agree that Batman Begins, and the new Dark Night are more real in the sence that one could now see how Bruce Wayne got his training, hhow he aqired all his gadgets, vehicles and why he becomes Batman. At no point did i ever judge the movie as a whole. Like i already said, i haven't watched it yet, so it would make no sence for me to do so at this time. My "criticizing" was to the fact it sucks that while shopping at Wallmart, my nephew see's nothing but new Batman toys, back-to-school back packs, binders and such plagued with nothing but batman logo's and the Tumber jumping though buildings. I can't take him to see the movie he so much wants to see, cause i'll he'll wake me up at the middle of the night crying, cause he thinks the Joker would come in his room at night and show him his "Pencil trick."

Do i think that they should have based this movie (or other comic book based movies) on little kids alone? Absolutlely not. Nor should anyone for that matter. I'm not trying to compare it to a movie that is more suited for a younger audience. I'm a big Batman fan. I would love to be able to take my kids (the day i have some) to a Batamn movie so they too could share love. But at this rate, the next few will probbly hold a rated R rating.

As for its PG-13 rating, i read a while ago, that it orignally was going to get an R raating, but the director (This guy Nolan you keep referring to i guess) took out a few scences to bring it down.

Again, i don't expect batman to carry the same look and feel that the 60's series did. I believe that was what the directors of Batman and Robin, and Batman forever were trying to do, and thoses movies weren't to good. (Though i always did love in the original series when batman and robin were climbing up buildings and people would pop out of windows to say hi! )

Things evolve with the times, as do characters from the series/cartoons we grew up with. Just sucks that somtimes the younger generation can't enjoy them at the same age we were when we first saw them.

I will go and see the movie this weekend as it does look good.

Edited July 22, 2008 by 5150 Lego

[The Nightwing Reborn]

I thought the dark knight was simply put:purely awesome. Though scare crow will always be my favorite bat-villian(please bring him back for a third), the joker was clearly much darker and true to the original joker character. Though a bit darker for the movie, no doubt for this relism you two gentlemen have been discussing, still very convicing. Sadly i'm still to down about the failure of Batman & Robin, no not about the movie itself, but about the movie that was supposed to follow it. I only knew of this a month ago but i cant get over the loss of a Nightwing movie.

Anyway sorry about the opinion there but back on topic: The Joker is the most convincing movie bat-villian in my opinion.

R.I.P. Heath Ledger

)Nightwing(

[SWMAN]

I know what you mean by dark. I realize that you meant how the characters have dark personalities and act very evil and manipulating. I think that the aspect of the movie makes it that much better. Its not all happy lets feel good, but the characters are shown acting how they should feel and act going along with the real tone. I also read that it almost got R. I believe that if they had added some blood and language to the movie, it would have. I am glad they made it PG-13, because Blood and Language would not have added to the movie. But, taking anything else out would have ruined the movie.

[THE-FORCE]

One question: who are the villans in this movie?

Edited July 22, 2008 by THE-FORCE

[tin7_creations]

One question: who are the villans in this movie?

The Joker and Two-Face, and a whole bunch of Batman mobsters.

[SWMAN]

Just saw it a second time tonight. Still amazing. Other than seeming shorter, it had the same effect.

[5150 Lego]

So i saw the Dark Night this weekend. Very good movie. Heath Ledger did a fantastic job job as the joker. Stroy line, plot,acting all top notch. I would have preferred a little more humor, but thats just me. Also, while Ledger'sperformance was great, i'm not to sure about Christan Bail. Its funny. I think he did a good job as Bruce Wayne, but not so good as Batman. His "Batamn voice"just seemed way to fake and forced. Sounded more like he was getting over a cold.

As for the "Darkness" that i had meantioned earlier, it acctually wasn't as bad as i thought, or as others made it out to be. I actually feel that Batman begins was more dark. Would i take my 8yr old to see this? Probbly not. But there were a few younger kids there that didn't have any problems, though one mother did walk her son outside covering his eyes. (I don't blame the movie for this, after all it is rated PG-13)

Over all it was a good movie movie and i look forward to the next movie!

[Plural]

So i saw the Dark Night this weekend. Very good movie. Heath Ledger did a fantastic job job as the joker. Stroy line, plot,acting all top notch. I would have preferred a little more humor, but thats just me. Also, while Ledger'sperformance was great, i'm not to sure about Christan Bail. Its funny. I think he did a good job as Bruce Wayne, but not so good as Batman. His "Batamn voice"just seemed way to fake and forced. Sounded more like he was getting over a cold.

My one criticism of the entire movie would have to be Batman's voice. I understand that he had to mask his voice so he wasn't recognised but I still found it a bit annoying.