Posted December 27, 20231 yr Here is my new 4WD Chassis for drifting. At least it is a modification of my previous chassis and it works really good. Propulsion: Monster Motor 1:1 gearing Steering: Servo with positive caster MK Battery Weight: ca. 300g and a short clip of driving: Hope you enjoy it 😊 greetings, Friedl
December 27, 20231 yr theres probably avoidable play in the steering from the 8t gears. also, did you encounter any issues with the 16t gears at the back skipping? otherwise nice build, very compact
December 28, 20231 yr Author 12 hours ago, Aurorasaurus said: theres probably avoidable play in the steering from the 8t gears. also, did you encounter any issues with the 16t gears at the back skipping? otherwise nice build, very compact Thanks @Aurorasaurus! The play in the steering is ok, in my opinion the positive caster compensates it. The two 8t gears were necessary, because to mount the servo between the steering arms. For the moment i haven’t a better solution.
December 28, 20231 yr Great timing @FriedlS I am currently working on a drift car myself. Have you got any experience, advice with 1:12 in this topic? I try to create a camber axles, to have less tire contact, so it would slip easier. I am planning on using regular 56mm rubber tires with matching wheels and of course A2212 BL motor. :) Your build feels really like a drift car and you did not use tape on tires or plastic wheels, which is I really appreciate. It reminds me of one MOC - Ford Mustang Hoonicorn, Ken Block's car, from "Anto". Keep up the great work! Edited December 28, 20231 yr by Krxlion Added another comment
December 28, 20231 yr Author 9 hours ago, Krxlion said: Great timing @FriedlS I am currently working on a drift car myself. Have you got any experience, advice with 1:12 in this topic? I try to create a camber axles, to have less tire contact, so it would slip easier. I am planning on using regular 56mm rubber tires with matching wheels and of course A2212 BL motor. :) Your build feels really like a drift car and you did not use tape on tires or plastic wheels, which is I really appreciate. It reminds me of one MOC - Ford Mustang Hoonicorn, Ken Block's car, from "Anto". Keep up the great work! Sounds interesting! Unfortunately not yet. You are right, this chassis is inspired by the model of Anto 8 hours ago, aFrInaTi0n said: Really nice chassis. Would be interested to see the steering in detail. Thanks a lot @aFrInaTi0n Here are some „detailed“ pictures of the steering:
December 30, 20231 yr Author @Aurorasaurus i made an update and now the two 8t gears aren’t necessary anymore. The play in the steering is less as before. And something new, i made a *.io file and i will share it when it is available on rebrickable. Edited December 30, 20231 yr by FriedlS Pic
December 30, 20231 yr Friedl we have to talk, you are no good influence to me... 🤭 Never thought of this small scale solution + allowing for also putting metal / regular old joints in... Offset to the wheels is increased by 1 stud, but I think this can be ignored for having metal parts over plastic ones... need to find out if I can adjust for two buggy motors in the small chassis without getting much higher or wider.. so thanks for this huge inspiration already for a super small scale fwd/4wd design! 🥰🥰🥰 Edited December 30, 20231 yr by aFrInaTi0n
December 31, 20231 yr Little update... getting a little bigger than yours & currently no caster angle, but shall get something like this (3rd party batts, servo and motors for rough size estimations and later shredding without hesitations... buwizz are flying around elsewhere and shall go in instead of the 7.4 batts.. 🙃) Replaced beveled gears with knob cogs, as they should be able to transport more power without skipping. Also the motors are driving the main drivedrain and this is evenly distributing the power to front and rear vs your starting from the rear going to the front (not sure if it makes a differenc at all..). Axles are carbon ones (I may need to check more narrow metal joints - use some forbidden liquid reinforcement aka superglue to keep the outer axles in the frontwheel joints.. Need to adjust the steering rack one stud further to not have a too huge angle @steering.. Edit: I removed my pictures as I created a distinct topic for my approach.. Edited January 3, 20241 yr by aFrInaTi0n
December 31, 20231 yr Same guess here - but the question is if my bet "pure (doubledosed) buggy power" will work with currently having no caster angle - fear is the answer may be "no".. but I guess a testdrive shall answer my questions.. Maybe doing this tomorrow.. I guess the Buwizz can' be placed any lower... 🤔 Edited December 31, 20231 yr by aFrInaTi0n
January 1, 20241 yr Author @aFrInaTi0n looks very good! Maybe the chassis is to small for two buggy motors and this big wheels when cornering. But i am looking forward to the testdrive 😊😊
January 1, 20241 yr Meeeeh, 3rd party components... should have tested the servo before putting it in - it was oszilating at the 0° resting position and it warmed up pretty heavy... so I need to unbuild the front -> I may directly go for PU motor to have analogue input... Edit: Cleared out pictures as I created my own thread for my chassis Edited January 3, 20241 yr by aFrInaTi0n
January 1, 20241 yr Your MOC was presented to me on YT. Looks promising! And the build is super neat and compact! May i ask you(all drift chassis operators) a question? You all are using the wider tire-rim-combination (56145), at least on your 3D models. What about using the thinner rims (56904 + 30699)? As these tires are harder. And how would it behave using 4 of the thinner wheels per axle, instead of just two? Happy new year, btw. Edited January 1, 20241 yr by pow
January 1, 20241 yr Author 13 hours ago, aFrInaTi0n said: Meeeeh, 3rd party components... should have tested the servo before putting it in - it was oszilating at the 0° resting position and it warmed up pretty heavy... so I need to unbuild the front -> I may directly go for PU motor to have analogue input... Inbetween created a Studio model as backup for the current version... with original LEGO wheels the ground clearance even shrinks to 1, max 2mm.. :D Very cool! 👍😊 11 hours ago, pow said: Your MOC was presented to me on YT. Looks promising! And the build is super neat and compact! May i ask you(all drift chassis operators) a question? You all are using the wider tire-rim-combination (56145), at least on your 3D models. What about using the thinner rims (56904 + 30699)? As these tires are harder. And how would it behave using 4 of the thinner wheels per axle, instead of just two? Happy new year, btw. Thanks a lot! In my opinion the wider tires are better for drifting ( and looks better) than the thin one. I tried to compare it: thin ones on all 4 wheels: and here the wide ones on all 4 wheels: When you put tape on the thin one, drifting is easier. But in this case, i wanted to avoid tape on the wheels. Edited January 2, 20241 yr by FriedlS Link update
January 1, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, FriedlS said: When you put tape on the thin one, drifting is easier. But in this case, i wanted to avoid tape on the wheels. Interesting! I would have expected the thinner ones to drift more controllable/better. ?_? Because i would expect harder tires to tend to slip earlier. I don't know what's wrong with my browser, but your images are nonexistent for me. Maybe some JS issue as i have disabled a few sources.
January 1, 20241 yr Author 16 minutes ago, pow said: Interesting! I would have expected the thinner ones to drift more controllable/better. ?_? Because i would expect harder tires to tend to slip earlier. I don't know what's wrong with my browser, but your images are nonexistent for me. Maybe some JS issue as i have disabled a few sources. I don’t know why the link to the flickr clips don’t appear… i am looking for a solution
January 3, 20241 yr Author Now the studio file is available (free) here: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-166264/FriedlS/4wd-drift-chassis-rc/#details
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