On 5/14/2024 at 9:47 PM, FoggyFate said:

The X-Mansion fig list should be: Wolverine, Rogue, Cyclops, Magneto, Storm, Professor X, Jean Grey, Gambit, Morph, and Beast.

Is this a reliable leak or your expectations?

For the price of the X-Mansion, 10 figures seems very low.  Great to finally have Professor X, Jean Grey, Gambit - although I have zero interest in Morph considering there are other more iconic X-Men not yet produced.  I would prefer Nightcrawler, Jubilee, Sunspot, Cable, or Bishop to take his spot on the roster for this set. 

Moreover, the previously rumoured Mystique, Sabretooth, and White Queen would make great additions to this set.  To be honest, any other X-Men villains such as Bastion, Mr Sinister, or Apocalypse would be great inclusions.  It does seem strange that over the past few years, LEGO Marvel has almost completely ditched supervillains from their sets and focused entirely on superheroes.  This pattern is the inverse of LEGO DC which focuses completely on Batman's Rogues Gallery and mostly features Batman as its only superhero.  The popularity of the comic book media is driven by both its superheroes and supervillains and it's frustrating that LEGO doesn't reflect that.

Praying to any and all gods out there that there is a follow-up wave of sets next January to satisfy my long-awaited LEGO X-Men desires.

1 hour ago, RobbieHxC said:

To be honest, any other X-Men villains such as Bastion, Mr Sinister, or Apocalypse would be great inclusions.  It does seem strange that over the past few years, LEGO Marvel has almost completely ditched supervillains from their sets and focused entirely on superheroes.  This pattern is the inverse of LEGO DC which focuses completely on Batman's Rogues Gallery and mostly features Batman as its only superhero.  The popularity of the comic book media is driven by both its superheroes and supervillains and it's frustrating that LEGO doesn't reflect that.

Praying to any and all gods out there that there is a follow-up wave of sets next January to satisfy my long-awaited LEGO X-Men desires.

Marvel villains are usually expendable and ditched after a single movie. Very few catch on like Loki or Thanos and part of the reason those two worked is because they were allowed to exist in multiple films. Meanwhile Red Skull, Ultron, and Hela are one and done. This is why the most prominent villain minfigs are the Spidey villains although even then, it's the same ones appearing over and over.

I don't know if part of the problem is also that Disney owns Marvel because Disney has mostly turned away from inventing new villains. And even classic ones like Maleficent and Cruella get redone as feminist heroes fighting the patriarchy. 

Lego making Magneto the villain in every X-Men set is a fun little nod to the X-Men movies.

Edited May 16, 2024May 16 by psqidexslizer

Dr. Doom, Loki, and Dracula fought the X-Men in the comics (and all courted Storm) so at least they can be used as X-villains.

2 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Is this a reliable leak or your expectations?

For the price of the X-Mansion, 10 figures seems very low.  Great to finally have Professor X, Jean Grey, Gambit - although I have zero interest in Morph considering there are other more iconic X-Men not yet produced.  I would prefer Nightcrawler, Jubilee, Sunspot, Cable, or Bishop to take his spot on the roster for this set. 

Moreover, the previously rumoured Mystique, Sabretooth, and White Queen would make great additions to this set.  To be honest, any other X-Men villains such as Bastion, Mr Sinister, or Apocalypse would be great inclusions.  It does seem strange that over the past few years, LEGO Marvel has almost completely ditched supervillains from their sets and focused entirely on superheroes.  This pattern is the inverse of LEGO DC which focuses completely on Batman's Rogues Gallery and mostly features Batman as its only superhero.  The popularity of the comic book media is driven by both its superheroes and supervillains and it's frustrating that LEGO doesn't reflect that.

I believe he's been reliable in the past, so if not a straight up leak, I'd class it as a strong rumour.

But yeah, 10 figures does feel very low for a set of this price, considering how many are reused. Compare it to Barad-Dur, which sure, has the same number for a higher price, but only 2 are reuses, and there's a ridiculous number of new molds (plus basically everyone has leg printing)

That being said, the figure count of 10 has been the one consistent rumour from the larger accounts about this set.

I guess this lineup is pretty close to the complete original TAS roster? Minus Jubilee.

The abandonment of villains in the Marvel theme (apart from Venom) is super strange though, for sure. The Marvels, Quantumania, GotG3, MoM (at least in terms of standard retail sets) and probably others I don't remember all didn't even get their main villain. I wonder if we'd even have gotten Magneto if he wasn't (more or less) one of the X-Men in '97.

I do have high hopes for future sets/CMF places for the X-Men, though. The Blackbird seems to be selling pretty well despite its price, the X-Mansion will undoubtedly be a slam dunk, and the show has been renewed for two more seasons, I believe? I'd almost go as far as EXPECTING at least one or two more sets next year.

Now hoping that the Fantastic Four movie does well next year so we can finally have a Baxter Building set

1 minute ago, HarryPotter said:

Now hoping that the Fantastic Four movie does well next year so we can finally have a Baxter Building set

Baxter Building? We haven’t even gotten a single solitary member of the Fantastic Four.

6 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

… I do have high hopes for future sets/CMF places for the X-Men, though. The Blackbird seems to be selling pretty well despite its price, the X-Mansion will undoubtedly be a slam dunk, and the show has been renewed for two more seasons, I believe? I'd almost go as far as EXPECTING at least one or two more sets next year.

Hopefully. Season 2 will probably hit next year so maybe we’ll some sets for that. I know Lego doesn’t typically do sets based on shows, but X-Men has been doing really well.

20 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Baxter Building? We haven’t even gotten a single solitary member of the Fantastic Four.

Hopefully. Season 2 will probably hit next year so maybe we’ll some sets for that. I know Lego doesn’t typically do sets based on shows, but X-Men has been doing really well.

I'd say the more accurate statement there would be that they don't typically do regular sets based on live action shows, they've done plenty based on cartoons.

Edited May 16, 2024May 16 by Agent Kallus

14 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

I'd say the more accurate statement there would be that they don't typically do regular sets based on live action shows, they've done plenty based on cartoons.

That is a fair point. 

Edited May 16, 2024May 16 by psqidexslizer

13 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

I would prefer Nightcrawler, Jubilee, Sunspot, Cable, or Bishop to take his spot on the roster for this set. . . White Queen would make great additions to this set. 

I suspect that we will end up getting some (or all) of these, if we get sets for the second season. 

13 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

To be honest, any other X-Men villains such as Bastion, Mr Sinister, or Apocalypse would be great inclusions. 

If we get more sets (~2026), then these are the most likely villains to appear - “Mr. Sinister’s Lab Escape” and “X-Men Stratojet vs. Bastion and the Sentinel” come to mind as easy and obvious picks! 

13 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

It does seem strange that over the past few years, LEGO Marvel has almost completely ditched supervillains from their sets and focused entirely on superheroes. 

This is a very pervasive myth that needs to end: The only villains that we have missed in the past few years have been Dar-Benn, the High Evolutionary, Dreykov, Yon-Rogg, and Ego. 
Dar-Benn absolutely should have been included given what LEGO is charging for the Hoopty, but given the film’s reception, I doubt that we will ever get her. The High Evolutionary was not a physical threat to the Guardians, so I see why they went with Adam Warlock (considering that themes have a set number of ‘changes’ available). Dreykov is a non-physical villain as well, and he can be cobbled together from existing parts (and he would have been something of a spoiler when the set entered production). Yon-Rogg was a spoiler for the first Captain Marvel movie, so his exclusion makes sense, and our only follow-up sets were an SDCC exclusive and a polybag that both use the same Starforce Carol (I do want to see him and the rest of the Starforce, plus green Ronan, though). Ego the Living Planet was also a spoiler (as he is not Quill’s father in the comics), and the marketing leaned into Ayesha as the big bad; we really need him, but his original exclusion makes sense. 

As for the Ronan (and Nebula) being absent from the latest Milano, I do agree that they should have been included (especially Ronan, as he is already in production); that said, considering that the Guardians are in their red team suits, Groot is a stick in a pot, and the ship’s name is on the wing, this set seems to be representing the end of the first movie (at which point Ronan is dead and Nebula is MIA). This choice may come down to changes again (using the final battle suits allows the same leg print to be shared), or LEGO may have an additional set or two planned for 2025 (“Knowhere Showdown”, anyone?). Also, excluding Ronan makes buying the Warbird necessary, and LEGO generally does not like cannibalising their own sales. 

Edited May 16, 2024May 16 by Classic_Spaceman

11 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

This is a very pervasive myth that needs to end: The only villains that we have missed in the past few years have been Dar-Benn, the High Evolutionary, Dreykov, Yon-Rogg, and Ego. 

I'm not sure it's a myth when they've missed all those you mentioned, didn't include Wanda in a retail set for MoM, and out of every Disney plus series, ONLY produced Agatha (who is getting her own show) and zombie Captain America (who, if we're being real, barely counts.)

NWH also only got its villains late, and it wouldn't have if it wasn't a Spider-Man thing that is sure to sell. If any other movie had most of its villains as spoiler villains, it'd be 'too bad' and we'd never see them.

Unless you count Warlock, which I really do think is tenuous, zero projects in phase 5 have received their villain as a minfigure. Zero shows in phase 4, and the movies are hanging by a thread with the Sanctum D2C and the late NWH sets. 

Maybe 'completely abandoned' isn't exactly fair, but when the D+ series are a part of this universe, and you can glance over at Star Wars and see its D+ series getting whole WAVES, I'm sure you can get why people feel like this. Even on the film side there's an annoying lack of villains, if not a total absence. 

I think the bigger problem that this stems from isnan annoying lack of interesting characters, full stop. When we get a movie, we're only really guaranteed to see all of the leads. Secondary characters don't get any presence nowadays, which is a real shame.

I'm sure people would be less hard on the GotG3 sets not including the High Evolutionary if we got, say... Kraglin, or Phyla-Vell, or Cosmo(... or a version of Groot that has any effort put in).

Even in the Infinity Saga sets, we keep going back to the same basic casts of the six original Avengers, the four original Guardians - it's been discussed to death here, but how ridiculous is an Age of Ultron wave without... Ultron?

 I think people are just tired of going 'maybe next year' for characters that no other theme would have to give a second thought to receiving.

6 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

and out of every Disney plus series, ONLY produced Agatha (who is getting her own show) and zombie Captain America (who, if we're being real, barely counts.)

Uhh…wasn’t the first CMF series ALL Disney+ show characters?

 

44 minutes ago, bustedbeatbox said:

Uhh…wasn’t the first CMF series ALL Disney+ show characters?

 

They were just talking about villains.

Yeah, I was just talking about villains in that part.

8 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

I'm not sure it's a myth when they've missed all those you mentioned, didn't include Wanda in a retail set for MoM, and out of every Disney plus series, ONLY produced Agatha (who is getting her own show) and zombie Captain America (who, if we're being real, barely counts.)

The only MoM set that we got was based on the Gargantos fight, which Wanda was not a part of (directly, anyway); I am also not sure why Wanda’s appearance in the Sanctum furthers the idea that LEGO does not make villains (since that set also gave us zombie Strange from the final battle, who would have otherwise been absent as well). I also am not counting CMFs in the hero/villain breakdown, since we are still missing a number of prominent heroes (Mobius, for instance - Red-and-white Falcon, Scarlet Scarab, Ms. Marvel, Daredevil, etc, are also good CMF options that we have not gotten!). 

8 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

NWH also only got its villains late, and it wouldn't have if it wasn't a Spider-Man thing that is sure to sell. If any other movie had most of its villains as spoiler villains, it'd be 'too bad' and we'd never see them.

This is an assumption that ignores the popularity of NWH - If there were another NWH-level movie in terms of popularity and spoiler villains, then we would almost certainly get spoiler sets for it! 

8 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

I think the bigger problem that this stems from isnan annoying lack of interesting characters, full stop. When we get a movie, we're only really guaranteed to see all of the leads. Secondary characters don't get any presence nowadays, which is a real shame.

I'm sure people would be less hard on the GotG3 sets not including the High Evolutionary if we got, say... Kraglin, or Phyla-Vell, or Cosmo(... or a version of Groot that has any effort put in).

I do agree with this. 

8 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

Even in the Infinity Saga sets, we keep going back to the same basic casts of the six original Avengers, the four original Guardians - it's been discussed to death here, but how ridiculous is an Age of Ultron wave without... Ultron?

To be fair, the two AoU sets that we are getting are from the opening scene, so Ultron was not even born yet. I am more bothered by Strucker’s absence, though I am not sure where he would fit. My hope is that we get some more AoU sets next year (a much-needed Quinjet update, Hulkbuster, final battle diorama), and that we get Ultron(s), Wanda, Pietro, non-phasing Vision, maybe Strucker, and some Ultron sentries with them! 
 

Advent Calendar is boring but who's surprised? The white mould for Spider Hams head is cool but makes no waves on the theme as a whole. Kind of annoyed at how often we get Spider Gwen. Over 10 years of this line and we never got comic versions of Black Widow, Wasp, or Scarlet Witch but we have like 10 sets with Spider Gwen, that's kind of lame to me. 

49 minutes ago, cosmic said:

Advent Calendar is boring but who's surprised? The white mould for Spider Hams head is cool but makes no waves on the theme as a whole. Kind of annoyed at how often we get Spider Gwen. Over 10 years of this line and we never got comic versions of Black Widow, Wasp, or Scarlet Witch but we have like 10 sets with Spider Gwen, that's kind of lame to me. 

Forget all that, what about a classic Jessica Drew? I know she had a SDCC figure, but we need a regular version. Bring back Scarlet Spider, give us Silk, all these Spider-folk and only one of them from the actual 616 is crazy.

And I would kill for a classic Wasp. Any classic avengers, honestly.

Edited May 18, 2024May 18 by ARC2149Nova

14 minutes ago, cosmic said:

Advent Calendar is boring but who's surprised? The white mould for Spider Hams head is cool but makes no waves on the theme as a whole. Kind of annoyed at how often we get Spider Gwen. Over 10 years of this line and we never got comic versions of Black Widow, Wasp, or Scarlet Witch but we have like 10 sets with Spider Gwen, that's kind of lame to me. 

Its not just the Advent Calendar. Comic themed Spider-Man sets in general have been stale for a while now. Its just the same recycled characters in every set and throwaway builds that bring nothing new to the table. It really needs a massive shake up.

2 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Forget all that, what about a classic Jessica Drew? I know she had a SDCC figure, but we need a regular version. Bring back Scarlet Spider, give us Silk, all these Spider-folk and only one of them from the actual 616 is crazy.

And I would kill for a classic Wasp. Any classic avengers, honestly.

I forgot about Jessica! For some reason I speculate Lego is hesitant to touch previous SDCC characters. Which is kind of ridiculous given New 52 Green Arrow showed up in the Javelin, and Shazam has made a few appearances himself. Hopefully that sets a precedence for Jessica and the Phoenix to be mass released someday as well. I would love 2 variants of Jessica, one with the Man Bat wings in white, and another “regular” version of her. I think the fact that both figures need dual molded legs and arms plus arm and leg printing plays a big role in why they’ve been set aside. Maybe I’m a conspiracy theorist, but the ease of producing Spider Gwen with no leg printing may give her a leg up, no pun intended. 
 

2 hours ago, wesker said:

Its not just the Advent Calendar. Comic themed Spider-Man sets in general have been stale for a while now. Its just the same recycled characters in every set and throwaway builds that bring nothing new to the table. It really needs a massive shake up.

Which is crazy given we’re missing comic variants of Electro, Shocker, Kingpin, big fig variants for Rhino and the Lizard, Mary Jane hasn’t had a comic variant in a decade, and Gwen Stacy was made of reused parts and completely inaccurate, while being exclusive to a D2C! So much uncovered ground for designs, it adds salt to the wound seeing us get so many Goblins, Miles, and Spider Gwen figures. And when we finally got new designs it was the absolute worst Lady Doc Ock and lady Electro figures literally no one cared for.

And then there’s me still trying to get Squirrel Girl, lol. I probably sound crazy requesting her knowing we can’t even get classic villains for one of this themes biggest heroes. I’d say Spiderman is actually probably THE biggest hero for Marvel at the moment. Hopefully some Lego intern is perusing this thread.

2 hours ago, cosmic said:

I forgot about Jessica! For some reason I speculate Lego is hesitant to touch previous SDCC characters. Which is kind of ridiculous given New 52 Green Arrow showed up in the Javelin, and Shazam has made a few appearances himself. Hopefully that sets a precedence for Jessica and the Phoenix to be mass released someday as well. I would love 2 variants of Jessica, one with the Man Bat wings in white, and another “regular” version of her. I think the fact that both figures need dual molded legs and arms plus arm and leg printing plays a big role in why they’ve been set aside. Maybe I’m a conspiracy theorist, but the ease of producing Spider Gwen with no leg printing may give her a leg up, no pun intended. 
 

Which is crazy given we’re missing comic variants of Electro, Shocker, Kingpin, big fig variants for Rhino and the Lizard, Mary Jane hasn’t had a comic variant in a decade, and Gwen Stacy was made of reused parts and completely inaccurate, while being exclusive to a D2C! So much uncovered ground for designs, it adds salt to the wound seeing us get so many Goblins, Miles, and Spider Gwen figures. And when we finally got new designs it was the absolute worst Lady Doc Ock and lady Electro figures literally no one cared for.

And then there’s me still trying to get Squirrel Girl, lol. I probably sound crazy requesting her knowing we can’t even get classic villains for one of this themes biggest heroes. I’d say Spiderman is actually probably THE biggest hero for Marvel at the moment. Hopefully some Lego intern is perusing this thread.

I swear, sometimes this hobby feels like an abusive relationship. 

Granted Arrow and Shazam are more popular, and Disney was on the "No X-Men" train for a while, but now, there's really no excuse for either of those two to be missing. I'd even settle for wrap-around leg printing, if it means we get some fresh life in this theme.

We don't even have Kingpin, yet. The Bugle should've been the Lego Spider-Man set. Instead, we got a very mixed bag. The new heroes were nice, everything else was a missed opportunity.

I've been wanting Squirrel Girl, Cloak and Dagger since the Ultimate Spider-Man days. Maybe someday...

Spider-Man 4 will officially begin filming this year with a late 2025 release date, I am very excited. I hope we get sets based off of it, especially since the symbiote from the end of NWH is expected to play a role in the movie. It could potentially be our first affordable symbiote Peter figure.

Do you guys think we will 100% get sets based off of Spider-Man 4?

25 minutes ago, Sinistereo said:

Do you guys think we will 100% get sets based off of Spider-Man 4?

Here are all the scenarios where we will not get Lego sets for Spider-Man 4.

• everyone on Earth dies

Edited May 18, 2024May 18 by psqidexslizer

20 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Here are all the scenarios where we will not get Lego sets for Spider-Man 4.

• everyone on Earth dies

I like the implication that if just one person survives they would be obligated to make the Lego sets for spider-man 4. And potentially even finish making the movie. It is I suppose the burden of humanity, of all mankind.

21 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Here are all the scenarios where we will not get Lego sets for Spider-Man 4.

• everyone on Earth dies

I'm thinking since SM4 will have a late 2025 release then the sets could have an October street date 

1 minute ago, Sinistereo said:

I'm thinking since SM4 will have a late 2025 release then the sets could have an October street date 

I think there maybe be potential for delays in the case of everyone but one person dying, but don't worry it'd still happen, it's inevitable now.

Edited May 18, 2024May 18 by Agent Kallus