39 minutes ago, Swordy said:

What If…? S3 trailer

If we get a Marvel CMF S3, my guesses for who from the show appears would be 1.) Goddess of Thunder Storm, 2.) Kahhori (still missing her from S2), 3.) bird-girl (no idea who she is!), and 4.) Red Guardian (since his suit can be reused for the Sacred Timeline version seen in Black Widow); a Skrull S.H.I.E.L.D. agent would be cool, but I doubt that LEGO would make someone so minor (especially when we are still missing important characters like Mobius!). 

39 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Thunderbolts also looks like a lot of fun. I’m certain it’ll be R-rated, which is the only reason I can see for LEGO skipping the film. Disappointing, for sure.

Thunderbolts* looks great! Tasky still seems to be absent for most of the film, so she either dies early or betrays the team and sides with Val (personally hoping for the latter!); Red Guardian being the one to insist on the "Thunderbolts" name makes me think he may actually not die, since I would assume that the rest of the team would take up the name in his honour (unless they become the New Avengers by avenging his death?). 
I highly doubt that the movie will be R-rated - Not only is that not necessary for the story and would cut out a decent number of people who saw and liked these characters in other media, if it were going to be R-rated, the trailers would have leaned into that. As it is, the movie seems to be a high PG-13 at most, with nothing particularly off-putting to LEGO (the violence is basically the same as any other MCU movie, and other movies that contain mild profanity have gotten sets). 
 

10 minutes ago, Buckethead said:

With What If...? Season 3, we can make out a few more Minifigure options.

Kahhori, Captain Carter, Birdie (original character), Goddess of Thunder Storm, Cowboy Shang-Chi or Cowboy Kate Bishop, Upgraded Ironheart (though unlikely with her new series), 1980s Red Guardian

We already got Captain Carter twice, so I can see LEGO leaving her out; the cowboy variants are a bit too niche for LEGO to make (as they have less broad appeal than regular superheroes), though I could see us getting Superior Ironheart (unless we get her regular Sacred Timeline version in the same series, which is likely). 
 

Edited November 11, 2024Nov 11 by Classic_Spaceman

37 minutes ago, Buckethead said:

Kahhori, Captain Carter, Birdie (original character), Goddess of Thunder Storm, Cowboy Shang-Chi or Cowboy Kate Bishop, Upgraded Ironheart (though unlikely with her new series), 1980s Red Guardian

This illustrates my main issue with what if, which is just that there's a lot of focus on characters I just don't care about in a what-if situation- Kahhori is an OC, Captain Carter was a neat idea for one episode but she's being heavily overused, Birdie's another OC, (Goddess of Thunder Storm works she's an exception), Shang and Kate I just want to see the NORMAL versions of again, and Ironheart's someone I just don't care about. If her show's good that could change, but this comes out before her show. I probably would pick up a Red Guardian figure to use as a normal one, but as for the show he's not a character I want to see alternative versions of.

This show was the perfect opportunity to give us more of the infinity saga main players without undoing their sacrifices or giving us functionally identical variants, and they really didn't use them nearly as much as they could have- the OG six rarely show up in a significant capacity, and when they do they're often not very different (Party thor, age of ultron widow)

29 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I highly doubt that the movie will be R-rated - Not only is that not necessary for the story and would cut out a decent number of people who saw and liked these characters in other media, if it were going to be R-rated, the trailers would have leaned into that. As it is, the movie seems to be a high PG-13 at most, with nothing particularly off-putting to LEGO (the violence is basically the same as any other MCU movie, and other movies that contain mild profanity have gotten sets).

While I agree it likely won't be R-rated, I think Deadpool and Wolverine shows that it is possible for marvel to bust the box office with an R-rated movie. Obviously thunderbolts doesn't have the name recognition of DP&W, but I think after it did so well they'll be open to more r-rated projects.

Looking forward to the Goddess of Thunder Storm minifigure. At least that's another X-Men minifig we can expect on top of whoever gets selected from X-Men '97.

6 hours ago, Swordy said:

Thor: The Dark Thor

Honestly that sounds like a rather better concept than "Thor: The Dark World" ;-)

6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

(especially when we are still missing important characters like Mobius!).

I don't think we'll ever get Mobius, to be honest. I like the character a lot, but appearance-wise he's just a guy in a brown suit. The same holds true for most of the Loki cast. I've said before that I can only see us getting visually appealing characters from there (say, Renslayer in period dress, Sylvie in her McDonald's uniform, Old Loki or of course God Loki). After all the CMF series has to appeal not only to Marvel fans but to CMF collectors as well.

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think Deadpool and Wolverine shows that it is possible for marvel to bust the box office with an R-rated movie. Obviously thunderbolts doesn't have the name recognition of DP&W, but I think after it did so well they'll be open to more r-rated projects.

The problem isn't just whether you can "bust the box office with an R-rated movie". Obviously you can, or else there wouldn't be much of a market for, say, hardcore horror or erotic thrillers.

The problem is that the MCU usually builds its universe from one movie to the other (excepting obvious outliers like the Deadpool movies). Marvel Studios are already in a bind because they had to scrap the Kang storyline, so much of what would have been the build-up for the next Avengers movies (like Kang's appearances in "Ant-Man 3" and "Loki") no longer counts. They've only a couple of movies left to get us invested in a new Big Bad. Which was probably the main rationale behind choosing Dr Doom, as they had an upcoming FF movie and would have been hard-pressed to shove another antagonist in it.

But R-rated movies can't really establish continuity because a significant portion of the MCU's current audience - from the teens who like Spider-Man and Ms Marvel to the "family outing" crowd - will be prevented from watching them. Again, there's clearly a market for Deadpool movies, but I don't think it overlaps all that much with your everyday MCU movie-goer.

Edited November 12, 2024Nov 12 by brickbride

10 hours ago, Swordy said:

Thor: The Dark Thor

I know where this guy likes to get his red hot comic book movie news.

17 hours ago, Swordy said:

Thor: The Dark Thor 

Iron Man: Man Of Iron

Man Of Steel was taken

17 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I highly doubt that the movie will be R-rated - Not only is that not necessary for the story and would cut out a decent number of people who saw and liked these characters in other media, if it were going to be R-rated, the trailers would have leaned into that. As it is, the movie seems to be a high PG-13 at most, with nothing particularly off-putting to LEGO (the violence is basically the same as any other MCU movie, and other movies that contain mild profanity have gotten sets). 
 

 

 

Hope you’re right. I’m definitely feeling more hyped for Thunderbolts* (forgot about that astrex) after this trailer. An R-rating would make it a skip for me, (I say that as someone who thinks of CA:TWS as a comfort movie,) as I’m sure many other people would, as you mentioned.
That said, it could make sense for Marvel to lean into an R-rating. Not only does it open the door for “creative freedom,” (bah humbug, I say!) but an R-rating would differentiate the film from Brave New World, which releases 3 months earlier. Basically, we’ve got two grounded, darker-toned films starring super-soliders back to back. It could make sense to make TB* a dark comedy more akin to D&W.

The only solid reason I’d wager for TB* being R-rated is that Yelana blatantly says the S-word in full, when before Marvel has been careful to playfully censor that word in their trailers (an example of this happens almost literally ten seconds before). Reminds me of the marketing for D&W, but it could just be that I’m overthinking it.

Film’s not yet rated, anyway. It’d be a cryin’ shame if LEGO skipped this movie simply because they didn’t think it’d do well. The fact that it’s a team of side characters plays against it, but it’s got a fun energy and realness that even BNW lacks. I hope the movie is a success, proving that the interconnected universe concept still works.

I’ll keep hope there’s just a lack of info and that TB* sets will come later on next year. I’d adore a Red Guardian minifig (not willing to pay $60 for him, though).

11 hours ago, brickbride said:

Honestly that sounds like a rather better concept than "Thor: The Dark World" ;-)

 

Lol, it’s just me intentionally butchering the names of the Thor films, which I’m committed to doing until the day I die. The full list includes:

Thor: The First Thor,

the aforementioned Thor: The Dark Thor,

Thor: Ragnathork,

and Thor: Love and Thornder.

Can’t wait for the reveal of the fifth Thor movie’s title! (If we ever get Thor 5… :/)

17 hours ago, brickbride said:

The problem isn't just whether you can "bust the box office with an R-rated movie". Obviously you can, or else there wouldn't be much of a market for, say, hardcore horror or erotic thrillers.

The problem is that the MCU usually builds its universe from one movie to the other (excepting obvious outliers like the Deadpool movies). Marvel Studios are already in a bind because they had to scrap the Kang storyline, so much of what would have been the build-up for the next Avengers movies (like Kang's appearances in "Ant-Man 3" and "Loki") no longer counts. They've only a couple of movies left to get us invested in a new Big Bad. Which was probably the main rationale behind choosing Dr Doom, as they had an upcoming FF movie and would have been hard-pressed to shove another antagonist in it.

But R-rated movies can't really establish continuity because a significant portion of the MCU's current audience - from the teens who like Spider-Man and Ms Marvel to the "family outing" crowd - will be prevented from watching them. Again, there's clearly a market for Deadpool movies, but I don't think it overlaps all that much with your everyday MCU movie-goer.

But those rarely bust the box office. R-rated marvel movies always would have been able to make as much as your average R rated horror movie. Deadpool and wolverine DOMINATED the box office. It's actually part of a wider trend with things like the first Joker, Oppenheimer, etc- R-rated movies are starting to be able to become box office hits that rival PG-13 heavy hitters.

As for thunderbolts specifically, while again I know the movie is PG-13, I highly doubt this is going to be the movie that introduces the next big bad. I also highly doubt that Deadpool and Wolverine will be left out of secret wars. I'm not saying something like "the marvel movies should all be rated R", I'm saying we're starting to see that R-rated marvel movies can make serious money, which means it's much more likely that we'll get more of them.

8 hours ago, Swordy said:

an R-rating would differentiate the film from Brave New World, which releases 3 months earlier. Basically, we’ve got two grounded, darker-toned films starring super-soliders back to back. It could make sense to make TB* a dark comedy more akin to D&W.

While I do think that Thunderbolts* will be more darkly humorous than typical MCU films, I seriously doubt that Marvel would want to differentiate it from CA:BNW too much (and especially via an R-rating!) - BNW's trailers feature POTUS Ross's comment to Sam about restarting the Avengers quite heavily, and Thunderbolts* sees CIA Director (per BP:WF) Val assemble a team for covert operations; given the emphasis on the team not liking the "Thunderbolts" name (in addition to the asterisk in the marketing), I think that Thunderbolts* will end with the team becoming the New Avengers (led by Sam!Cap). Dark Avengers or Secret Avengers are also possibilities, but Marvel could use the back-to-back release to establish the New Avengers (n much the same way that Phase 1 introduced the OGs. 

8 hours ago, Swordy said:

The only solid reason I’d wager for TB* being R-rated is that Yelana blatantly says the S-word in full, when before Marvel has been careful to playfully censor that word in their trailers (an example of this happens almost literally ten seconds before). 

The S-word was also the first word spoken in AoU (and just not really a bad word in general!), so it is almost certainly not indicative of an R-rating; if the movie were going to be R-rated, we would be more likely see gore and F-bombs in the trailer (neither of which were present). 
 

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not saying something like "the marvel movies should all be rated R", I'm saying we're starting to see that R-rated marvel movies can make serious money, which means it's much more likely that we'll get more of them.

We definitely will see more R-rated Marvel content, but remember that DP&W stuck to its own corner of the Marvel universe, rather than directly crossing over with the PG-13 heroes. Also, DP&W needed to be R-rated, but not all MCU movies do (and they can even deal with dark concepts at the PG-13 level), and making something R-rated just for the sake of it (by adding excessive profanity and gore/graphic violence to a PG-13 script - e.g. "Tony Stark was able to build this in a f**king cave! With a f**king box of scraps!") would not be received well by audiences (and Marvel would lose out on merchandise sales, as the film could not be marketed to kids). 
 

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for thunderbolts specifically, while again I know the movie is PG-13, I highly doubt this is going to be the movie that introduces the next big bad. I also highly doubt that Deadpool and Wolverine will be left out of secret wars.

Me neither. The Big Bad was just an example. As of now, we barely have any ideas who the new Avengers are going to be (unless you count the post-credits scene of "The Marvels" where Kamala visits Kate Bishop and mentions Cassie Lang)! Surely the remaining movies in between now and the fifth "Avengers" movie will have to establish some kind of continuity, whether it is introducing the Big Bad, introducing the new Avengers, or something else. And Deadpool and Wolverine can still be in "Secret Wars" as long as you give them some kind of introduction for the kids in the audience who don't know Deadpool (I'm assuming everyone knows Wolverine). I'm not saying that the R-rated portions of the MCU have to be entirely self-contained. Just that it won't work making most of the MCU R-rated since you'd lose too much of your target audience group.

6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Thunderbolts* sees CIA Director (per BP:WF) Val assemble a team for covert operations; given the emphasis on the team not liking the "Thunderbolts" name (in addition to the asterisk in the marketing), I think that Thunderbolts* will end with the team becoming the New Avengers (led by Sam!Cap). Dark Avengers or Secret Avengers are also possibilities, but Marvel could use the back-to-back release to establish the New Avengers (n much the same way that Phase 1 introduced the OGs.

That's an interesting theory. But I can't really see it. The Thunderbolts are all B- or C-listers in my opinion; and Falcon!Cap's really not much better. Is that enough to replace the likes of Tony Stark?

Plus why would Marvel have spent to much time introducing us to teenaged replacements of the old Avengers if none of them feature in the roster? I'm assuming that Spider-Man's in the Avengers for sure, and probably Kamala, Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang. (America I'm less sure about since she'd have to go from "novice sorcerer" to "full-fledged sorcerer" basically off-screen in order to replace Dr Strange.) Of course they might always be a second team of Young Avengers or something, so we'll see.

6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

making something R-rated just for the sake of it (by adding excessive profanity and gore/graphic violence to a PG-13 script - e.g. "Tony Stark was able to build this in a f**king cave! With a f**king box of scraps!") would not be received well by audiences (and Marvel would lose out on merchandise sales, as the film could not be marketed to kids).

The newly "improved" quote made my day! And you're absolutely right. I've said before that R-rated Marvel movies - no matter how well they do at the box office overall - would cause Marvel to lose out on a significant portion of their box office target audience - but of course merchandising partners like LEGO would lose out to. I'm not saying that a Deadpool set rated 18+ wouldn't do well but we already know they won't make one. And I very much doubt that, say, enough grown men would buy enough Deadpool shirts, briefs, gloves, caps, bed sheets, and pajamas in adult sizes to make up for the loss of Marvel-branded stuff normally sold to kids.

Edited November 13, 2024Nov 13 by brickbride

5 hours ago, brickbride said:

And Deadpool and Wolverine can still be in "Secret Wars" as long as you give them some kind of introduction for the kids in the audience who don't know Deadpool (I'm assuming everyone knows Wolverine).

Deadpool is in a unique position in that he is a comedic character who breaks the fourth wall and is known for being violent and profane, so it is actually easier to integrate him into a PG-13 movie than a character who is just violent without being self-referential - All they would really need to do is have a running joke of Deadpool being on his best behaviour because he knows that he is in a PG-13 movie (and an Avengers movie at that!). 

5 hours ago, brickbride said:

That's an interesting theory. But I can't really see it. The Thunderbolts are all B- or C-listers in my opinion; and Falcon!Cap's really not much better. Is that enough to replace the likes of Tony Stark?

The issue of legacy is significant with many of these (and other current) characters (Yelena - Nat, Sam, Walker - Cap, Riri, Rhodey - Tony, Shuri - T’Challa, etc), and BNW is making a point of differentiating Sam!Cap from Sam!Cap (“I’m not Steve Rogers”); I think that Marvel is aware of this and will lean into it - Remember that the first Avengers movie did the same thing with the concept of a superhero team-up! 

5 hours ago, brickbride said:

Plus why would Marvel have spent to much time introducing us to teenaged replacements of the old Avengers if none of them feature in the roster? I'm assuming that Spider-Man's in the Avengers for sure, and probably Kamala, Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang. (America I'm less sure about since she'd have to go from "novice sorcerer" to "full-fledged sorcerer" basically off-screen in order to replace Dr Strange.) Of course they might always be a second team of Young Avengers or something, so we'll see.

I suspect that these characters (minus Spider-Man, plus Ironheart and She-Hulk, and maybe Shuri) will form the Young Avengers/A-Force, while Spidey, Rhodey, and other older and more well-established characters will join Sam’s New Avengers team. 
 

5 hours ago, brickbride said:

The Thunderbolts are all B- or C-listers in my opinion; and Falcon!Cap's really not much better. Is that enough to replace the likes of Tony Stark?

I mean Tony Stark himself was hardly an A-lister pre-MCU, that was reserved for the likes of Wolverine, Spider-Man, the Hulk and the FF. There's a reason they all got solo movies pre-MCU and he didn't.

My point being that if didn't allow so-called B and C Listers to headline things they'd never get the chance to grow beyond that.

Two of the Spidey-Dino sets have leaked.

2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Two of the Spidey-Dino sets have leaked.

I like the ghost spider pterodactyl. 

3 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Two of the Spidey-Dino sets have leaked.

Which one is missing? I too like the ghost spider pterodactyl the rest isn’t much to write home about. 

20 minutes ago, Lego_ofme said:

Which one is missing? I too like the ghost spider pterodactyl the rest isn’t much to write home about. 

I have no idea what we were supposed to get, tbh. For all I know, it’s just the two.

Poor Gwen. If only Sauron wanted to cure cancer. 

 

The other set is titled: Treehouse Showdown: Spidey-Rex VS. Goblin-Raptor. For $60, I’m not sure if they’ll put in a large dinosaur mold or just have it be brick-built, but I’m intrigued by the name. 

For some bizarre reason I actually quite like these.

21 minutes ago, Rwbricks said:

Poor Gwen. If only Sauron wanted to cure cancer. 

 

The other set is titled: Treehouse Showdown: Spidey-Rex VS. Goblin-Raptor. For $60, I’m not sure if they’ll put in a large dinosaur mold or just have it be brick-built, but I’m intrigued by the name. 

Sauron found the cure but was on a plane that blew up, CIA killed him

21 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

The S-word was also the first word spoken in AoU (and just not really a bad word in general!), so it is almost certainly not indicative of an R-rating

I think it's generally considered the slot right below the F-bomb in the ranking system. It's hard to find specifics but from what I can see, it's essentially to PG movies what the F-bomb is to PG-13 movies- you might get one, but it'll be restricted. Whereas more minor language you can use pretty consistently in a PG movie.

37 minutes ago, Rwbricks said:

Poor Gwen. If only Sauron wanted to cure cancer.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who came to the conclusion that instead of a themed dino/vehicle like the others, since there is no gwen minifigure, this must in fact be Gwen, turned into a dino by a pterosaur with no interest in curing cancer.

16 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Sauron found the cure but was on a plane that blew up, CIA killed him

This is why we've never had him in lego form.

5 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Two of the Spidey-Dino sets have leaked.

The year is 2028 and I still see them on shelves still at full price -Me from the future

4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm glad I'm not the only person who came to the conclusion that instead of a themed dino/vehicle like the others, since there is no gwen minifigure, this must in fact be Gwen, turned into a dino by a pterosaur with no interest in curing cancer.

I believe this is actually what it is. Iirc Reptil gave them the ability to turn into dinosaurs for this season 

33 minutes ago, poisonbricks said:

I believe this is actually what it is. Iirc Reptil gave them the ability to turn into dinosaurs for this season 

I can't believe they've rescue botted my spider-men.

Also cool to see that we're still trying to push Reptil. He's a solid kid appeal character.

4 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

The year is 2028 and I still see them on shelves still at full price -Me from the future

Spider man AND dinosaurs? Dude, the target audience of these are going to bounce off the walls.

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think it's generally considered the slot right below the F-bomb in the ranking system. It's hard to find specifics but from what I can see, it's essentially to PG movies what the F-bomb is to PG-13 movies- you might get one, but it'll be restricted. Whereas more minor language you can use pretty consistently in a PG movie.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who came to the conclusion that instead of a themed dino/vehicle like the others, since there is no gwen minifigure, this must in fact be Gwen, turned into a dino by a pterosaur with no interest in curing cancer.

This is why we've never had him in lego form.

But we have Sauron in lego form

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Spider man AND dinosaurs? Dude, the target audience of these are going to bounce off the walls.

Well, the concept could still be improved if you want to combine all the desirable elements. How about, say, robot Spider-Man in a police car vs flying space dinosaurs? 😉