Marvel Superheroes 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[Borex]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Don't give them ideas.

That would work for the puppet master. 
 

 

[psqidexslizer]

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Don't give them ideas.

The set is already in production. If they do go the microfigure route, that was their idea long before it was mine.

[Agent Kallus]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion then but I like the sound of the Thing being a minifig.

 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

4 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

The set is already in production. If they do go the microfigure route, that was their idea long before it was mine.

No. It was actually yours all along—they've seen it on Euorbricks and decided to go back in time in order to implement it in their set.

[Buckethead]

In the ten plus years since Lego Marvel became a theme, they're finally making a Fantastic Four set that coincides with Marvel Studios first ever adaptation of the team. I'm not surprised it's based on the film and not the comics, but based on the designs from set photos and concept art, the designs look very faithful to the comics.

I'm not bothered by The Thing being a Minifigure instead of a big figure; I just hope there's some armor or accessory to make him appear bulkier than the rest.

Set comes out in April, so I hope to hear more soon. And I hope we get Silver Surfer as well.

[psqidexslizer]

48 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

No. It was actually yours all along—they've seen it on Euorbricks and decided to go back in time in order to implement it in their set.

To the Lego time traveler who went back and told the design team their new Black Panther D2C set was gonna be a bust:

 

Edited November 25, 2024 by psqidexslizer

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, psqidexslizer said:

To the Lego time traveler who went back and told the design team their new Black Panther D2C set was gonna be a bust:

It was actually the same guy that told Sony to re-release Morbius (promising a box office success).

[SpacePoliceIII]

Is there any meaning to the things on Ben's hands in the post about 76316? I can't figure it out

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, SpacePoliceIII said:

Is there any meaning to the things on Ben's hands in the post about 76316? I can't figure it out

Assumably he will have them in the set, he's rumored to be a minifigure right?

6 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

To the Lego time traveler who went back and told the design team their new Black Panther D2C set was gonna be a bust:

All those black bricks... it was going to be an Oscorp.

[poisonbricks]

8 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Perhaps an unpopular opinion then but I like the sound of the Thing being a minifig.

 

I'm with you, Ben really isn't that big.

Might be a bit more of an unpopular opinion, but I never really like bigfigs in the first place for licenced characters, I don't think I've ever seen one used that actually matches up to the size of the character.

[brickbride]

4 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

I never really like bigfigs in the first place for licenced characters, I don't think I've ever seen one used that actually matches up to the size of the character.

Hagrid from HP?

[poisonbricks]

5 hours ago, brickbride said:

Hagrid from HP?

Bigfigs as in the base shape that is used by Hulk, Maui, Thanos, etc. Hagrid's is his own specialised part that is smaller than those and it works great 

[SEmrys]

11 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

I'm with you, Ben really isn't that big.

Might be a bit more of an unpopular opinion, but I never really like bigfigs in the first place for licenced characters, I don't think I've ever seen one used that actually matches up to the size of the character.

I think there needs to be something but I agree that big figs aren't the best solution imo. I don't love their static nature or the fact that they lose some of that Lego charm with their inability to change parts (although tbf that is starting to change slightly).

As for the height, if Hulk is 8'2 and according to a quick search a minifigure represents someone approximately 5'6 tall, then essentially he should be just under 1.5x the size of a regular minifigure (1.46 to be a little more precise but my math may be wrong). 

I like it when the Thing is depicted as bigger than his 6' comic height but based on the above and the fact the Hulk is oversized you're not wrong.

I hope that one day they make an actual bigger (but smaller than big figs) minifigure but that's probably not going to happen. but it would be a nice middle ground that gives everyone the big Thing they want and sizes the Hulk down to a more appropriate size. 

Tl;dr - I agree with you. 

Edited November 26, 2024 by SEmrys

[RobbieHxC]

10 minutes ago, SEmrys said:

I think there needs to be something but I agree that big figs aren't the best solution imo. I don't love their static nature or the fact that they lose some of that Lego charm with their inability to change parts (although tbf that is starting to change slightly).

As for the height, if Hulk is 8'2 and according to a quick search a minifigure represents someone approximately 5'6 tall, then essentially he should be just under 1.5x the size of a regular minifigure (1.46 to be a little more precise but my math may be wrong). 

I like it when the Thing is depicted as bigger than his 6' comic height but based on the above and the fact the Hulk is oversized you're not wrong that 

I hope that one day they make an actual bigger (but smaller than big figs) minifigure but that's probably not going to happen. but it would be a nice middle ground that gives everyone the big Thing they want and sizes the Hulk down to a more appropriate size. 

Tl;dr - I agree with you. 

I don't think getting exact scales is too important when it comes to LEGO.  I don't think we're gonna start measuring the walls of the X-Mansion and the dimensions of the X-Jet to see if the ratios accurately compare to a minifgure.  I think being in an approximate scale is important, which these sets do.  The Iron Monger is an example where the scale is completely off. 

I like bigfig designs such as the Hulk, Thanos, Darkseid, Gorilla Grodd because they would be completely underserved as a minifgure and I find the midfigs such as Axl awful.  I view LEGO as a translation of a character's design that doesn't have to be exact  - but still need to look aesthetically pleasing.  I find bigfigs add a more dynamic look within a group, for example when displaying the Avengers, and hopefully the Fantastic Four.  Additionally and maybe most importantly, these are toys!  Kids want the Hulk to fight the Thing, Red Hulk, Abomination, etc!  A minifigure only version of these characters worsens the playability of this, since the Hulk has made a convention for large characters to be bigfigs. 

Look at these cool designs from the LEGO Marvel Superheroes videogame a decade ago and tell me that a minifigure version of the Thing would better.  LEGO has also consistently portrayed the Thing as a bigfig in the videogame and D+ special, so if the Thing is indeed a minifig, it's their own fault for setting this expectation.

[SEmrys]

47 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said:

I don't think getting exact scales is too important when it comes to LEGO.  I don't think we're gonna start measuring the walls of the X-Mansion and the dimensions of the X-Jet to see if the ratios accurately compare to a minifgure.  I think being in an approximate scale is important, which these sets do.  The Iron Monger is an example where the scale is completely off. 

I like bigfig designs such as the Hulk, Thanos, Darkseid, Gorilla Grodd because they would be completely underserved as a minifgure and I find the midfigs such as Axl awful.  I view LEGO as a translation of a character's design that doesn't have to be exact  - but still need to look aesthetically pleasing.  I find bigfigs add a more dynamic look within a group, for example when displaying the Avengers, and hopefully the Fantastic Four.  Additionally and maybe most importantly, these are toys!  Kids want the Hulk to fight the Thing, Red Hulk, Abomination, etc!  A minifigure only version of these characters worsens the playability of this, since the Hulk has made a convention for large characters to be bigfigs. 

Look at these cool designs from the LEGO Marvel Superheroes videogame a decade ago and tell me that a minifigure version of the Thing would better.  LEGO has also consistently portrayed the Thing as a bigfig in the videogame and D+ special, so if the Thing is indeed a minifig, it's their own fault for setting this expectation.

[Pic]

I think the math stuff (which was just me going on a tangent really) kind of undermined my point. 

I also don't want a (regular) minifigure Thing (or Hulk, etc), and I also don't think Lego needs to make every character height specific.

What I mean is I was agreeing with @poisonbricks that I don't think bigfigs are the optimal design, and wish there was an alternate design (that looks like a sized up minifigure) that would be more in keeping with Lego's other products and, if it was smaller than a bigfig, would be able to be used for a wider range of characters (like the Thing, Kingpin, Colossus, Venom). Not a Axl-esque midfig, but a new thing. Some might think that some of those characters, wouldn't look good as minifigures, but then conversely might not look right as bigfigs either. 

Although given the choice between a midfig and a minifig, for those characters, I would take the midfig. 

Hopefully that makes more sense but I fear I've just thrown another jumbled message at you. 

Edit/TL;DR - I thought about it a bit more and to put it more simply: Hulk and Thing work as big figs. But I don't think other characters (Kingpin, She-Hulk, Colossus etc) would work as well. But if you had a sized down option, smaller than a big fig, bigger than a minifig (other than the current midfig) that would work for all of the above. I wish we had that. 

Edited November 26, 2024 by SEmrys

[poisonbricks]

atlas.bricks on Instagram has a great render of a custom Thing that's more along the lines of what I'd like to see, I think there's a perfect amount of bulk but he still feels like a minifigure, which imo bigfigs don't 

@RobbieHxC does make a good point about playability, I can see kids preferring bigfigs, but (and I'll preface that this is totally anecdotal) I had a bigfig Hulk as a kid and thought he was cool and all, but the TMNT more 'midfig'-esque villain figs were my absolute favorites and I got the most milage out of them in terms of play - I'm not sure there's THAT much of a difference

strictly minifigure Ben isn't the best route imo, but something in-between is something I really wish LEGO would pursue 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

13 minutes ago, poisonbricks said:

atlas.bricks on Instagram has a great render of a custom Thing that's more along the lines of what I'd like to see, I think there's a perfect amount of bulk but he still feels like a minifigure, which imo bigfigs don't 

Oh, that actually looks awesome. LEGO would really benefit from introducing a new torso type like this.

Edited November 26, 2024 by THELEGOBATMAN

[Agent Kallus]

2 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Look at these cool designs from the LEGO Marvel Superheroes videogame a decade ago and tell me that a minifigure version of the Thing would better.  

A Minifigure version of the thing would be better.

2 hours ago, SEmrys said:

That I don't think bigfigs are the optimal design, and wish there was an alternate design (that looks like a sized up minifigure) that would be more in keeping with Lego's other products and, if it was smaller than a bigfig, would be able to be used for a wider range of characters (like the Thing, Kingpin, Colossus, Venom). Not a Axl-esque midfig, but a new thing. Some might think that some of those characters, wouldn't look good as minifigures, but then conversely might not look right as bigfigs either. 

Although given the choice between a midfig and a minifig, for those characters, I would take the midfig. 

Amen to that.

Size is a problem with bigfigs but it's the smallest problem of many. ( Ugly, stuck in a squat, don't fit the design sensibilities of minifigures, less poseable than a minifig, less interchangeable parts than a minifig & so on.)

This is just about the standard  hulk style bigfigs ( or ones near that standard) stuff like :TLBM Killer Croc, Hagrid, Eggman & the TNMT ones, are a different beast and generally much better that the Hulk type ones. The removable/ turning minifig type head is an improvement but there's a way to come.

Edited November 26, 2024 by Agent Kallus

[Swordy]

3 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

 

Look at these cool designs from the LEGO Marvel Superheroes videogame a decade ago and tell me that a minifigure version of the Thing would better. 

As a huge fan of LEGO Marvel Superheroes, I will. Bigfig Thing looks good, but it’s way too big. Furthermore:

Bigfig Lizard? Way too big.

Bigfig Colossus? Ugly, way too big.

Bigfig Groot? Looks like a particle of human waste, plain, and way too big.

Bigfig Hulkbuster? A good size, actually, but too organic looking.

Bigfig Kingpin? Why?

Bigfig Hulk? Perfection.

 

I love bigfigs. I want plenty more bigfigs so they can duke it out in my LEGO City street.

Not everyone needs to be a bigfig, though. Is Vader a bigfig because he’s taller? Is Chewie? No, and rightly so. I believe the default ought to be the minifigure, then a bigfig is considered if the approximate scale feels right.

[upliftingbricks]

52 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Bigfig Lizard? Way too big.

Bigfig Colossus? Ugly, way too big.

Bigfig Groot? Looks like a particle of human waste, plain, and way too big.

Bigfig Hulkbuster? A good size, actually, but too organic looking.

Bigfig Kingpin? Why?

Bigfig Hulk? Perfection.

Ahem. Bigfig Venom?

[psqidexslizer]

55 minutes ago, Swordy said:

As a huge fan of LEGO Marvel Superheroes, I will. Bigfig Thing looks good, but it’s way too big. Furthermore:

Bigfig Lizard? Way too big.

Bigfig Colossus? Ugly, way too big.

Bigfig Groot? Looks like a particle of human waste, plain, and way too big.

Bigfig Hulkbuster? A good size, actually, but too organic looking.

Bigfig Kingpin? Why?

Bigfig Hulk? Perfection.

 

I love bigfigs. I want plenty more bigfigs so they can duke it out in my LEGO City street.

Not everyone needs to be a bigfig, though. Is Vader a bigfig because he’s taller? Is Chewie? No, and rightly so. I believe the default ought to be the minifigure, then a bigfig is considered if the approximate scale feels right.

Colossus should use the legs and arms from the Avatar set and then the shoulder guards from the CMF storm in red to add extra bulk. I will die on that hill.

Lizard should 100% be a big fig. He’s big and bulky enough to warrant it.

Kingpin I don’t have strong feelings on. Either a bigfig or a minifigure would work because his size is all over the place.

2 minutes ago, upliftingbricks said:

Ahem. Bigfig Venom?

He will be included in The Tower of Fate set alongside black suit Spider-Man and stealth suit Captain America.

Edited November 26, 2024 by psqidexslizer

[JohnTPT17]

I personally like Bigfigs. Whether they're the correct "cannonical" size or not, I just think that the look and feel very Lego. It's not like most minifigures are exactly to scale with their vehicles/each other, so I think having a bigfig to bring some variety and more playability is an overall good move.

[Swordy]

21 minutes ago, upliftingbricks said:

Ahem. Bigfig Venom?

I was focusing on bigfigs with which I found issue. Bigfig Venom, Abomination, Juggernaut, all look fantastic and need to be made as soon as possible.
 

19 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Colossus should use the legs and arms from the Avatar set and then the shoulder guards from the CMF storm in red to add extra bulk. I will die on that hill.

Lizard should 100% be a big fig. He’s big and bulky enough to warrant it.

That’d work for Colossus. The Blue People from Avatar are 10’, compared to Colossus’s supposed height of 7’7”, though.

Maybe, but Lizard looks more spindly than bulky to me. I’m probably just too used to the version from NWH.

Edited November 26, 2024 by Swordy

[SEmrys]

2 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Size is a problem with bigfigs but it's the smallest problem of many. ( Ugly, stuck in a squat, don't fit the design sensibilities of minifigures, less poseable than a minifig, less interchangeable parts than a minifig & so on.)

This is just about the standard  hulk style bigfigs ( or ones near that standard) stuff like :TLBM Killer Croc, Hagrid, Eggman & the TNMT ones, are a different beast and generally much better that the Hulk type ones. The removable/ turning minifig type head is an improvement but there's a way to come.

I got a bit too hung up on size in my earlier posts but I agree with all of this. 

If they incorporated more posability, gave their poor thighs a break and changeable parts the size would be more palatable. 

I'd still rather some middle option, but it would be a step in the right direction. 

[Borex]

I like bigfigs. Of course they are sometimes a bit huge, but especially when posing a team, it just looks good to have something big for a nice composition. 
Minifig Thing wouldn’t work for me. Bigfig Lizard neither. I like small Lizard, from the early comic days. If you like big Lizard, you can just use Killer Croc i guess.