Marvel Superheroes 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[RobbieHxC]

33 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Thank god you're not running things, because that roster makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. (Don't take that too seriously. )

Deadpool isn't even on Earth-616. Punisher isn't in the MCU at this point (unless you count the retroactive additon of the Netflix series). Red-Hulk would've been barely introduced by then. Venom isn't in the MCU at all.

But even without the whole MCU-lore context, I don't like your roster because it includes too many standalone, well-known characters. Deadpool, Punisher and Venom already have their own projects. There's absolutely no need for them to steal the spotlight of other characters. 

What I appreciate about the movie is that they made a team out of characters which don't really have a place in the MCU at this point, and otherwise would've been forgotten or sidelined.

Their idea is not that bad! It is inspired by one of the later Thunderbolts iterations in the comics with Red Hulk, Deadpool, Punisher, and Venom.  Technically, all these characters have appeared in an MCU property (if you count the post-credit scene of Spider-Man: No Way Home).
 

Creatively, it may be nice to have a team composed of lesser-known characters.  However, it might not be great business decision to use a team of lesser-known characters (excluding Bucky) to draw the audience into cinemas in the context of MCU's current public perception.  I think that more established characters could make the film a bigger hit outside of the core fan audience.

[CF Mitch]

23 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

We can make out vague details like Iceman is solid white or Wolverine and Rogue appear to be reused from the X-Jet.

 
I hope the fact that Iceman seems white is due to the color quality of the picture, 'cause I really think he should be a bit more blueish than pure white...

The Thunderbolts trailer looked great!
I wasn't that interested in this movie before, but I'm intrigued now. Eager to find out where each of the members' allegiance lie (especially Bucky)

A LEGO set or two based on the movie would be great, too!

Regards,
Mitch

Edited September 24, 2024 by CF Mitch

[Lego Nostalgia]

5 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Thank god you're not running things, because that roster makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. (Don't take that too seriously. )

Deadpool isn't even on Earth-616. Punisher isn't in the MCU at this point (unless you count the retroactive additon of the Netflix series). Red-Hulk would've been barely introduced by then. Venom isn't in the MCU at all.

But even without the whole MCU-lore context, I don't like your roster because it includes too many standalone, well-known characters. Deadpool, Punisher and Venom already have their own projects. There's absolutely no need for them to steal the spotlight of other characters. 

What I appreciate about the movie is that they made a team out of characters which don't really have a place in the MCU at this point, and otherwise would've been forgotten or sidelined.

Deadpool,Punisher and Agent Venom were in the team in the comics, also Punisher is in the MCU, the netflix stuff is canon, his show took place in 2017, disney plus says on the mcu timeline and he'll be in DDBA

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Deadpool,Punisher and Agent Venom were in the team in the comics, also Punisher is in the MCU, the netflix stuff is canon, his show took place in 2017, disney plus says on the mcu timeline and he'll be in DDBA

I don't care about comics, since it's not a comic—it's a movie, taking place in an established universe.

As for Punisher, at this point he's just a shoehorned retroactive addition. That is, until Daredevil: Born Again.

[poisonbricks]

Quaffle posted the Magneto torso! Well, part of it. It's the red and purple suit, looks awesome 

[Lego Nostalgia]

20 minutes ago, poisonbricks said:

Quaffle posted the Magneto torso! Well, part of it. It's the red and purple suit, looks awesome 

I'm so glad, I hate that purple suit with the M and long white hair.

34 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I don't care about comics, since it's not a comic—it's a movie, taking place in an established universe.

As for Punisher, at this point he's just a shoehorned retroactive addition. That is, until Daredevil: Born Again.

I know but to me this lineup isn't doing it for me, too many super soldiers

[RobbieHxC]

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I don't care about comics, since it's not a comic—it's a movie, taking place in an established universe.

A movie based on comics!

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

As for Punisher, at this point he's just a shoehorned retroactive addition. That is, until Daredevil: Born Again.

The Daredevil show on Netflix is canon to the MCU, therefore Punisher is already an established character in the MCU.

[JeanGreyForever]

3 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

Quaffle posted the Magneto torso! Well, part of it. It's the red and purple suit, looks awesome 

Looks great.

What are the chances we'll get dual molded legs though?

11 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Thunderbolts Trailer looks interesting however I don't like Taskmaster since it's not Tony Masters and the team selection isn't the best, If I was running things I'd have, Yelena,Ghost,Deadpool,Punisher,Red Hulk,Agent Venom and Bucky

I hope they don't nerf Sentry

I'm game for this but I'd add Elektra even if she hasn't appeared in the MCU yet. I hope Elodie Yung will be asked to reprise her role one day.

[Lego Nostalgia]

45 minutes ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Looks great.

What are the chances we'll get dual molded legs though?

I'm game for this but I'd add Elektra even if she hasn't appeared in the MCU yet. I hope Elodie Yung will be asked to reprise her role one day.

But the netflix shows are canon to mcu

[psqidexslizer]

Glad to see classic Magneto again after a dozen or so years. Guess that rumor about him appearing by 2027 was on the money. It would be great if he got dual molded legs with printing, but that’s probably asking for too much.

I wonder how much longer these leaks will drag out until we finally get a proper look at the mansion? At this rate, we’re gonna start seeing pictures of Xavier’s bald head and Iceman’s legs. 

[JeanGreyForever]

Bishop is the only character left we haven't seen anything of. Besides the yellow blur of Xavier's hoverchair on the box. I wonder if Bishop will have the 90s mullet or the shorter hairstyle from '97.

56 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

But the netflix shows are canon to mcu

Oh okay, I thought the shows weren't canon but whatever characters the MCU brought in from them were. That means Daredevil: Born Again is a sequel to the Netflix Daredevil show?

[Mandalorianknight]

23 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

He has a wife in FatWS, so I assume the kid is his. 

The DODC got the objects legally, as they are tasked with cleaning up the Avengers' messes; I suspect that they are selling things on the black market, though. Also, on a second viewing, the event seems to be in honour of the Battle of New York, where putting Loki's scepter on display makes absolutely no sense (regardless of whether it is functional or not without the Mind Stone, it is a dangerous piece of alien tech that needs to be kept safe - And it was one of the weapons used to incite the battle in the first place!); monuments to the fallen heroes and first responders would make more sense at a memorial gala, so I still think it is an auction. 

Calling it now: In an inversion of the TWS scene, Bucky is saving the team from the military (maybe sent by Val after they go rogue?). He first attacks multiple humvees before disabling the Thunderbolts' car, so I doubt that he is trying to harm them.

Also, on rewatching the trailer, Yelena wears the same outfit for the lab scene, hallway fight, and building explosion, so these are definitely all part of the same sequence (again, I think that it is the opening). 
Potential Tasky spoiler (not that she dies, though I do worry about that!): 

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Is Taskmaster working for Val? Her appearances in the trailer are odd (IMO if she were just a Slipknot, then the trailer would feature her more prominently); we see the five others (including Bucky, so this likely takes place after the chase scene) in the elevator and walking into Val's office, but Tasky just materialises for the team-up shot. Also, her reaction to the trap (at least, how she seems to react via editing) seems to be to look around at the others, not find a method of escape. Combined with my suspicion that the trap is not actually designed to kill Yelena, Walker, Ghost, and Tasky, but to bring them together in order for Val to force a team-up, I think she may be evaluating their performance so that she can report back to Val. 

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I believe that everything we see in the trailer is a setup: Val independently recruits multiple mercenaries to infiltrate the same facility (Bob's prison?), then traps them inside; the mercs team up and escape (as they believe that someone wants them dead), and Yelena goes to Red Guardian for help. After this, the military (who has been tracking the pseudo-team) appears and attacks, but Bucky rescues them (also sent by Val to bring in "rogue operatives"); all of this concludes with the revelation in Val's office that she had the entire thing orchestrated to bring together a team selected for a specific mission and overseen by Taskmaster. 
This structure also would explain why Marvel is making such a big deal about the asterisk - The full title for the movie will be Thunderbolts: The Dark Avengers. 
 

 

I dunno I just don't see him having a kid with where he was mentally for this trailer and most of TFATWS, but I guess he seemed pretty confident about his future in the post-credits of TFATWS, so maybe there was a period where he and his wife were able to settle down and have a kid in between "John is made to live up to a man no one can live up to, understandably fails and has a violent breakdown after his best friend is murdered by terrorists, is abandoned by the government" and "John clearly hates his sketchy black ops job he's doing for Val"

That was bad phrasing on my part but that's what I meant- they confiscated stuff/took over from civilians trying to salvage/clean up like we see with pre-vulture vulture in Homecoming, and now are auctioning off the more valuable items.

I think you're 100% right, though honestly a number of these people have worked for Val at some point. John, Yelena, etc, and it would make a lot of sense for Ghost to end up in her service. I think she wants them to be set up as the dark avengers, but I kind of hope it ends with the team, whether they take the name or not, forming but not working for her.

5 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

Quaffle posted the Magneto torso! Well, part of it. It's the red and purple suit, looks awesome 

On the one hand, very happy it's the good suit, but on the other, if we're using new prints I kind of wish we could have had another new X-man.

15 minutes ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Oh okay, I thought the shows weren't canon but whatever characters the MCU brought in from them were. That means Daredevil: Born Again is a sequel to the Netflix Daredevil show?

The confusion's understandable- it sounds like it was originally going to be a sequel in name (and two actors) only, before they brought on Elden, Deb, Jon, and the rest and reportedly scrapped and rewrote the majority of the show.

[Lego Nostalgia]

18 minutes ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Bishop is the only character left we haven't seen anything of. Besides the yellow blur of Xavier's hoverchair on the box. I wonder if Bishop will have the 90s mullet or the shorter hairstyle from '97.

Oh okay, I thought the shows weren't canon but whatever characters the MCU brought in from them were. That means Daredevil: Born Again is a sequel to the Netflix Daredevil show?

Yes

Feige said they weren't originally planning on making it canon but they decided to in the end, so Punisher Season 1 and 2 takes place in 2017 via the MCU Timeline on Disney Plus,I forget when Daredevil season 1-3 took place, I think 2016,2017

[wesker]

On 9/23/2024 at 11:32 PM, NXS7 said:

 

I love all the new outfits, praying for at least 2 sets to split the characters up

The movie itself looks like it will be fun but aside from US Agent and Red Guardian I'm not seeing anything that really appeals to me from a Lego perspective. Bucky is already coming in the Airport Battle diorama, the other characters have been done before but now have generic new costumes and there doesn't appear to be much set potential beyond the standard Lego City vehicles being repackaged under the Marvel branding.
 

10 hours ago, CF Mitch said:

 
I hope the fact that Iceman seems white is due to the color quality of the picture, 'cause I really think he should be a bit more blueish than pure white...

White is accurate to how Iceman appears in the X-Men Animated Series, X-Men 97 and Spider-Man's Amazing Friends. I think they made the right call keeping his design in line with the other characters from those shows for the sake of consistency. Blue would be more appropriate if they went with a modern comic version of the character.
 

6 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

Quaffle posted the Magneto torso! Well, part of it. It's the red and purple suit, looks awesome 

Glad we're not getting a repeat of the X-Jet figure. Hopefully they've updated the face print with a less cheerful expression. I'm guessing he'll be using the new rubber cape Thor and Loki have. Overall 6/10 new figures (plus printed legs for Cyclops and the Sentinel head) for the mansion isn't too bad in the end. I still hope we can expand more of the team's roster and start getting some new villains next year.
 

2 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Looks great.

What are the chances we'll get dual molded legs though?

I'm going to say zero chance. They didn't give dual molding to Cyclops or Gambit so I can't really see Magneto getting it. I think the best we can hope for is leg printing.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

7 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

A movie based on comics!

Completely besides the point. Just because it's based on comics doesn't mean they can randomly insert any kind of thing into their universe without previously establishing it.

The MCU only takes inspiration from the comics, it never directly adapts anything (especially in the recent phases).

7 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

The Daredevil show on Netflix is canon to the MCU, therefore Punisher is already an established character in the MCU.

Except he hasn't interacted with any MCU characters besides Daredevil, so let's not pretend like the series hasn't just been retroactively added to the canon.

They noticed that some Netflix series were beloved among fans, so they decided to cash in on that. It was merely a business decision. I wonder what they'll do when they get to Luke Cage and Iron Fist, since those series are nearly not as liked as the others.

[brickbride]

On 9/23/2024 at 9:05 PM, Classic_Spaceman said:

The Thunderbolts* trailer looks really good (the knife sequence was a fun bit of entirely-unintentional teamwork)! Yelena seems to be the main character

Great, now I really don't want to watch this in the cinema. I haven't seen "Black Widow" so I was only introduced to Yelena in "Hawkeye". If found her very obnoxious and annoying, and the series' constant shilling of her, basically going "Look how cool she is! Isn't she the coolest?" put me off further. Same with Echo. (Hawkeye really got the short end of the stick there. He's the only founding member of the Avengers to never have had a solo movie, and then they used his already-short mini-series to shill not one but THREE characters that weren't him. Some of us actually like the character, you know!)

Also, I've never seen a trailer so full of generic quotes - honestly, there wasn't a single one that made me take notice. (Compare with, say, Star-Lords rant about not killing people in the GotG 3 trailer.) Coupled with all the shots of people striking poses it's like they want to market this as the most generic MCU movie ever, no characterisation or character quirks to see here, just move along please.

I'm not optimistic about the MCU going forward. I guess hardcore comic fans will still find something for them, but most people I know aren't comic fans. They all used to follow the MCU closely until "Endgame", but after that their interest has been limited to the occasional Disney+ show (not all of them!) or movie (again not all of them!). And whenever I tell them a tidbit about an upcoming movie I've learned from a LEGO forum, like "There's a new Captain America movie coming! Yes, I know Captain America's dead, but the Falcon guy from 'Endgame' is now Captain America!" or "There's a red version of the Hulk played by Harrison Ford!" they look at me as if I'd just made that up. Honestly, the only characters not dead and not confirmed to be retired I care about by now are Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, and Star-Lord. And I should be surprised if we got any more than a small cameo for any of them in the remaining movies. My experience of course isn't the same as everyone's, but I do think they're losing the casual audiences more and more.

Edited September 25, 2024 by brickbride

[JeanGreyForever]

59 minutes ago, brickbride said:

Great, now I really don't want to watch this in the cinema. I haven't seen "Black Widow" so I was only introduced to Yelena in "Hawkeye". If found her very obnoxious and annoying, and the series' constant shilling of her, basically going "Look how cool she is! Isn't she the coolest?" put me off further. Same with Echo. (Hawkeye really got the short end of the stick there. He's the only founding member of the Avengers to never have had a solo movie, and then they used his already-short mini-series to shill not one but THREE characters that weren't him. Some of us actually like the character, you know!)

I'm not optimistic about the MCU going forward. I guess hardcore comic fans will still find something for them, but most people I know aren't comic fans. They all used to follow the MCU closely until "Endgame", but after that their interest has been limited to the occasional Disney+ show (not all of them!) or movie (again not all of them!). And whenever I tell them a tidbit about an upcoming movie I've learned from a LEGO forum, like "There's a new Captain America movie coming! Yes, I know Captain America's dead, but the Falcon guy from 'Endgame' is now Captain America!" or "There's a red version of the Hulk played by Harrison Ford!" they look at me as if I'd just made that up. Honestly, the only characters not dead and not confirmed to be retired I care about by now are Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, and Star-Lord. And I should be surprised if we got any more than a small cameo for any of them in the remaining movies. My experience of course isn't the same as everyone's, but I do think they're losing the casual audiences more and more.

If you don't like Yelena, I don't recommend Black Widow then. You will not enjoy that movie at all since it's basically Yelena stealing the show.

I agree with you on your larger thoughts about the MCU. Their golden age is over and I don't think any of the future projects have much appeal. There's not any hype for a Captain America who isn't Steve Rogers. Thunderbolts feels like it's full of all the MCU rejects. We don't even have an Avengers team or any idea of who might be an Avenger to interest us in what's coming next. Marvel bringing back Robert Downey Jr. was their "break in case of emergency" scenario. We'll have to see if that works in bringing back general audiences for the next two Avengers films.

[Agent Kallus]

4 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

The MCU only takes inspiration from the comics, it never directly adapts anything (especially in the recent phases).

Except he hasn't interacted with any MCU characters besides Daredevil, so let's not pretend like the series hasn't just been retroactively added to the canon.

I made they were intended as canon when they were made and they are canon now , there was just a slight blip in the middle (where I was was headcanoning them as canon anyway).

 

[psqidexslizer]

7 hours ago, wesker said:

I'm going to say zero chance. They didn't give dual molding to Cyclops or Gambit so I can't really see Magneto getting it. I think the best we can hope for is leg printing.

Unless someone has come out and confirmed they don’t have dual molded legs, I wouldn’t jump to those conclusions based off the images we’ve seen.

[psqidexslizer]

Looks like X-Men ‘97 season 2 won’t be coming until 2026, which is disappointing. Hopefully we still get something from Lego next year to fill some of the gaps in the team *cough cough* a brickbuilt sentinel with Jubilee and Nightcrawler *cough cough.*

[Felkin]

Hopefully we'll get a few more X-Men '97 sets to tide us over next year, if only to pad out the roster of X-Mansion characters. They might be based on the '97 series now that enough time has passed that spoilers aren't an issue, or just generic comics-accurate X-Men sets featuring beloved characters (cough Wolverine)... just so long as it isn't just another X-Jet! If they wanted to help promote their X-Men sets, Lego could celebrate 25 years since the first X-Men movie with an anniversary set or two, but I'm not holding out hope for that one.

[JeanGreyForever]

1 hour ago, Felkin said:

If they wanted to help promote their X-Men sets, Lego could celebrate 25 years since the first X-Men movie with an anniversary set or two, but I'm not holding out hope for that one.

Another Lady Liberty set, like the No Way Home set, but based on the first X-Men movie. Magneto holding Cyclops, Jean, and Storm prisoner, Wolverine vs Sabretooth on top of Lady Liberty and Rogue in the machine.

[RobbieHxC]

15 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Completely besides the point. Just because it's based on comics doesn't mean they can randomly insert any kind of thing into their universe without previously establishing it.

No, it is exactly the point.  These movies draw from existing material.  Whenever a comic book character makes the jump from page to screen, is it "randomly inserting any kind of thing into their universe without previously establishing it"?  It doesn't make sense for a character to only be allowed to appear in a movie if they have appeared in a previous movie.  Besides, all of those characters have been in an MCU property anyways.

16 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Except he hasn't interacted with any MCU characters besides Daredevil, so let's not pretend like the series hasn't just been retroactively added to the canon.

This is irrelevant. Are the Eternals non-canonical because they haven't interacted with any other MCU characters? 

[Mandalorianknight]

19 hours ago, wesker said:

The movie itself looks like it will be fun but aside from US Agent and Red Guardian I'm not seeing anything that really appeals to me from a Lego perspective. Bucky is already coming in the Airport Battle diorama, the other characters have been done before but now have generic new costumes and there doesn't appear to be much set potential beyond the standard Lego City vehicles being repackaged under the Marvel branding

Ghost's new outfit looks awesome, too!  And you never know, maybe we'll get Bob's other outfit.

28 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said:

This is irrelevant. Are the Eternals non-canonical because they haven't interacted with any other MCU characters? 

Don't give me hope.

[wesker]

5 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Looks like X-Men ‘97 season 2 won’t be coming until 2026, which is disappointing. Hopefully we still get something from Lego next year to fill some of the gaps in the team *cough cough* a brickbuilt sentinel with Jubilee and Nightcrawler *cough cough.*

Its a shame about the long wait but hopefully Lego will take this time to catch up on the remaining characters from the first season. Aside from expanding the team roster I think its also important to release Sinister and Bastion now while they still can.
 

3 hours ago, Felkin said:

Hopefully we'll get a few more X-Men '97 sets to tide us over next year, if only to pad out the roster of X-Mansion characters. They might be based on the '97 series now that enough time has passed that spoilers aren't an issue, or just generic comics-accurate X-Men sets featuring beloved characters (cough Wolverine)... just so long as it isn't just another X-Jet! If they wanted to help promote their X-Men sets, Lego could celebrate 25 years since the first X-Men movie with an anniversary set or two, but I'm not holding out hope for that one.

I don't expect to see much next year beyond a potential Advent Calendar and the Sentinel getting a stand alone release like the Leviathan did. I am hoping Marvel gets a third CMF series as that would really go a long way in helping flesh out the roster of X-Men characters.