Marvel Superheroes 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Remember that the pictures are preliminary. Minifigures may yet change.

[BoyLego]

1 hour ago, Legocentrico said:

Exactly. And it is clear that whoever gave the first information has not seen this image, which could even be older than the leak. It is fun to analyze the various possibilities but it is really too early to get angry or worried. Personally I am still convinced that we will have our mark 42, I am happy for the new Patriot (which will get all the details) and very excited for a Killian finally based on the final battle (at some point I hoped that Pepper would be too, who knows, maybe sooner or later ...)

What I really do not understand is the discussion about Sam's helmet ... it is a necessary upgrade if you have to fly at high altitude, it makes the new costume more "superheroic", it is normal to update a character that has a similar look for so many years, when he receives his own movie, and for the minifigure it is a nice variation ...

An African American taking over the role of ‘Captain America’ is quite a significant step for representation. It’s really important that children get to see people who look like them presented in a positive light in media.

Fully hiding the characters skin in a toy feels like a big step backward. Imagine being a young black kid, excited to see a black person become Captain America, to then be given a toy where his skin is fully hidden.

I have no problem with him having a helmet in the film or with Lego including it in the set. But it would be such an easy solve to include an extra head and hairpiece. 

Having said that we should really wait to see whether or not Lego has included an extra head before we start slinging mud.

[Murdoch17]

I keep reading Igor as Eye-gor.

I need to stop watching Young Frankenstein so much...

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, Swordy said:

I see what y’all are saying about the covering of his face being nefarious, though. Past Sam Wilson Captain America figures have shown the face. Maybe someone in corporate management wants to make sure that the kids who don’t know Sam will just pretend it’s Steve Rogers, which is pretty horrible, in my opinion. I could rant, but I’d go way off topic if I do. Maybe I will sometime in the Asylum.

Wasn’t it heavily implied that the Winter Solider was partially an agent for the Soviets as well as Hydra, or that Hydra was dissolved into Soviet Russia? I thought that was what the red star on Bucky’s arm meant.

I’d actually pay millions to see that in a Marvel movie. @CloneCommando99, prepare to see Buckingham and all of London burn! 🔥 Justice for 1814!

Disney notoriously takes black guys off posters and marketing in China. Finn in TFA is a great example (I mean not great, it's messed up, but like it's a prime example of it.). The assumption is helmeted Sam will probably be the one shown in all the marketing and products in China.

It was absolutely the soviets, yeah. But 2024 marvel isn't 2014 marvel (and also, the entire winter soldier movie was pretty unique for marvel. I think it's the best they've ever shown Cap's character.), and over the last decade a certain global event started that made it controversial to put russia in this stuff again.

5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Personally, I really dig that IM3 set! Aldritch having young Han‘s face rather than a unique one is a downside, but the torso print is cool! Much better than the 2013 minifig ^^

Igor is an improvement too

Entirely depends on the price to me.

2 hours ago, Murdoch17 said:

I keep reading Igor as Eye-gor.

I need to stop watching Young Frankenstein so much...

I've been pronouncing it like that the whole time, is it actually ee-gor then?

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I've been pronouncing it like that the whole time, is it actually ee-gor then?

It‘s indeed ee-gor, not eye-gor

I wonder why they didn‘t choose a fictional country to pit the US against. Wouldn‘t be a stretch after Sokovia, Wakanda, and Madripoor  

[mrcngrck]

the hall of armor without any new (iron man) suit would be the new low for the marvel theme

Edited November 2, 2024 by mrcngrck

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I wonder why they didn‘t choose a fictional country to pit the US against. Wouldn‘t be a stretch after Sokovia, Wakanda, and Madripoor  

I agree that if they don't have the guts to do Russia or China, it's a good idea to go with a fake country, but I don't know how many options they have there.

Out of those three, Sokovia and Madripoor are tiny and wouldn't be able to be a threat (Not to mention Madripoor is supposed to be like, super corrupt so I dunno how much sympathy they'd get from the US taking adamantium). Wakanda is already kinda weirdly involved in Sam's story as Captain America, giving him the suit and all, so having him take their side over an in-the-wrong america might not be great optics (that's where this story is going, right? I feel like it's a pretty easy prediction that this is going to be "america tries to muscle it's way in against the innocent country who has the adamantium and Sam ends up stopping them" And no way they make Wakanda part of the problem, either.). Not to mention Wakanda's whole thing is having unbreakable metal so it'd just be kind of a weird story choice for them to also have adamantium, especially when they just went through a story about other countries trying to get the precious metal their country is known for.

Of course there are other fake countries in Marvel, but the only one I could think of that fits "country with tension with america and the power to pull it off (and isn't filled with mutants marvel doesn't want to use yet)" is Latveria, and that's not happening until Avengers 6: RDJ makes Cecil's teleporting budget look like pocket change.

2 hours ago, mrcngrck said:

the hall of armor without any new (iron man) suit would be the new low for the marvel theme

I would say Iron Patriot essentially counts as "new" at this point. The new low IMO is if that set's actually $55.

[Classic_Spaceman]

21 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Also, just to the movie as a whole, the "USA and Japan go to war" thing is kinda funny to me given we're pretty solid allies. Like a half decade ago the US President and Japanese prime minister were straight up just friends. It feels like they're trying to do "dark political thriller", but whoever wrote it didn't want to be "controversial" by making it a country the US actually has tension with like Russia (Which I also don't get, during the cold war every other film was "C'mon Rocky pound Drago's face in!", but that's a tangent on a tangent", and of course couldn't make it China because they want the market, so they just spun the globe. 

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I wonder why they didn‘t choose a fictional country to pit the US against. Wouldn‘t be a stretch after Sokovia, Wakanda, and Madripoor  

I am fairly sure that the Leader’s plans revolve around pitting allies against each other in order to throw the world into chaos; Sam!Cap will be trying to prevent a war, not start/fight one, so using an already-adversarial country would undermine that. 
 

[Clone OPatra]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I would say Iron Patriot essentially counts as "new" at this point. The new low IMO is if that set's actually $55.

Do my eyes deceive me or does Iron Patriot not have any leg print?

That's the lowest of new lows if so - an iron man suit with no leg print.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I am fairly sure that the Leader’s plans revolve around pitting allies against each other in order to throw the world into chaos; Sam!Cap will be trying to prevent a war, not start/fight one, so using an already-adversarial country would undermine that. 

The president in this one's a character who's been an antagonist in every previous movie he's been in, which isn't really implying a Zemo style "both sides are good guys being manipulated" situation to me.

1 hour ago, Clone OPatra said:

Do my eyes deceive me or does Iron Patriot not have any leg print?

That's the lowest of new lows if so - an iron man suit with no leg print.

I was concerned about this as well but from what others said here it sounds like it's just a low res image and a bad angle.

[Rwbricks]

Apparently Ruth’s head is not new; it was used for Pansy Parkinson from the Harry Potter Slytherin House Banner set. That’s the only set it’s been used in so far, so it’s still nice to get, but it is not new. 

[Clone OPatra]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I was concerned about this as well but from what others said here it sounds like it's just a low res image and a bad angle.

I don't know, the image is somewhat grainy but it really looks like nothing is there... Time and good pictures will tell though.

[Legocentrico]

7 ore fa, Clone OPatra ha detto:

Non lo so, l'immagine è un po' sgranata ma sembra davvero che non ci sia niente... Il tempo e le buone foto lo diranno però.

Remember Bishop in the first image of the xmansion…….

[psqidexslizer]

The Brick Reporter has a picture of the new Cap. He has a second face print with his face exposed.

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

The Brick Reporter has a picture of the new Cap. He has a second face print with his face exposed.

Good to hear! So yeah, all the „controversy“ was for naught  Have a little faith, guys

[Classic_Spaceman]

12 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

The Brick Reporter has a picture of the new Cap. He has a second face print with his face exposed.

Not bad, though it does not appear to be accurate to Sam’s helmet-less design (just goggles), and it will probably look weird with that hair since the back print is exposed. IMO it works better as a version of the helmet without the breathing mask section. 
 

[Lego Nostalgia]

8 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Not bad, though it does not appear to be accurate to Sam’s helmet-less design (just goggles), and it will probably look weird with that hair since the back print is exposed. IMO it works better as a version of the helmet without the breathing mask section. 
 

CMF version is the best one

[Classic_Spaceman]

23 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

CMF version is the best one

Well, yeah. 
I am really disappointed that LEGO did not keep the CMF wing mould around, since they have included Falcon in multiple sets since then, so it is clear that they would have had opportunities to use it! 
 

[Swordy]

58 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

The Brick Reporter has a picture of the new Cap. He has a second face print with his face exposed.

Seems like a half-baked effort to me. The hair piece that’s being used for Sam wouldn’t cover the other side of the head, and it’s not at all accurate to his non-helmeted look, as Classic Spaceman pointed out. An extra head should’ve been included for both Falcons, I maintain.

[Mandalorianknight]

34 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Well, yeah. 
I am really disappointed that LEGO did not keep the CMF wing mould around, since they have included Falcon in multiple sets since then, so it is clear that they would have had opportunities to use it! 

If I remember correctly, the CMF characters are made out of a slightly different plastic or pigmentation or something like that- I wouldn't be surprised if using CMF molds in system sets was a little closer to "new mold" budget than a standard re use.

[Agent Kallus]

32 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

If I remember correctly, the CMF characters are made out of a slightly different plastic or pigmentation or something like that- I wouldn't be surprised if using CMF molds in system sets was a little closer to "new mold" budget than a standard re use.

They used to be but not anymore, now they're made in the same factories as everything else, with the exact same plastic mix.

Hence why we are now seeing more CMF parts appear elsewhere ( like the Troubadour's parts (sans legs) in the lions Knight's castle)

[Kaijumeister]

It’s crazy (well, not really) to think Red Hulk is the only reason the Brave New World set isn’t a standard £20-25 set that’s been a staple of this theme since 2012.

The CMF Falcon is the only time Lego ever really got the character right, otherwise his brick-built wings have always been too bulky and the mould from the Crossbones Hazard Heist set was too plain. Shame they never reused the CMF mould as it would’ve gotten quite a bit of mileage with Avengers Tower, this BNW set, and the upcoming Civil War one.

Incredibly frustrating that the Hall of Armour set lacks the quintessential suit Iron Man 3 focused most on. It would’ve been so nice to get the Mk42, but man they couldn’t even give Iron Patriot proper printing?

I wish Lego would use these Hall of Armour expansions as a way to give us more unique Iron Man suits that wouldn’t have made sense in other sets, that would at least justify their recurring nature and price point.

This theme, despite its clearly low budget, ironically tends to get quite ambitious with its absurd price points.

Edited November 3, 2024 by Kaijumeister

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

They used to be but not anymore, now they're made in the same factories as everything else, with the exact same plastic mix.

Hence why we are now seeing more CMF parts appear elsewhere ( like the Troubadour's parts (sans legs) in the lions Knight's castle)

That's cool, thanks for letting me know.

In that case, it is weird we haven't seen it yet- maybe just because it'd need a new print, but that'd be absurd even for marvel.

52 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

This theme, despite its clearly low budget, ironically tends to get quite ambitious with its absurd price points.

Seriously- sometimes it makes sense- the X-jet was insanely overpriced, but it still seems to have sold ok because it was the first normal x-men set in a decade. (Not saying that wasn't kind of a jag move from lego, but it makes financial sense) But the Hoopty? Did they think there were masses of Captain Marvel diehards out there just starving for figures of her despite her being readily availible in cheaper sets over the past few years?

[brickbride]

This! Captain Marvel's one of my favourite Marvel characters and I might well be the only person here who genuinely liked "The Marvels", but I didn't even consider getting the set. Not only was it absurdly priced, but also Yet Another Space Ship just didn't appeal to me. If they had to go that route with just a single set for the movie - and I can see why they did, given the current state of the MCU -, they should have put in one or two figs (say, a new Captain Marvel plus Kamala or even Dar-Benn) with a cheap, small build for the Hoopty, since I strongly suspect that no-one bought the set for the ship build anyway. That could have been EUR 20-30 or so and would surely have found some takers.

Edited November 4, 2024 by brickbride

[cosmic]

13 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Well, yeah. 
I am really disappointed that LEGO did not keep the CMF wing mould around, since they have included Falcon in multiple sets since then, so it is clear that they would have had opportunities to use it! 
 

I had the same thought. The lack of arm and leg printing (besides the dual molding that is), was expected for the set version of Captain America Sam Wilson. But I also at least expected the wing mould to carry over. This brick built design is not horrible but surely not as exciting as the CMF mould. Oh well, luckily I don't plan on buying this set.

Which leads me to say that I really dislike the set at large. As always, disliking Lego is a blessing for money and storage space as I would hate it if I felt every set hit the mark just right and had to be purchased. But wow this set is ugly lol. The jet build is so awkward? like the wings aren't quite like anything I've seen for real world air crafts. The cockpit is kind of ugly and the underside of it has a blocky build that doesn't look lie it lines up uniformly with the underside of said cockpit. In short, the build is just nonsensical and not aesthetically pleasing. 

Falcon is a weaker variant to his CMF design. He also looks awkward with the lack of flesh printing on his first head. Second head helps bring him to life but still a very underwhelming and awkward figure all around.

Sabra has the most overused hair piece, with an unoriginal face print, redundant torso printing and ugly pants. Seriously hate those pants, especially when looking at other times Lego got pant printing right. Think the Series 8 CMF DJ, the TMNT April O'Neil, etc. They had pockets lining the upper edges of the hip area, with the zipper line printed near the middle of the legs. These pockets flat in the center of the pants make no sense and I hate to see them used as often as they are. Lego has gotten the angles of pockets right before so their insistence on using the pockets-in-the-center-of-my-pants piece to provide "Detail" for figures like Sabra and Electro is kind of bizarre and somewhat funny to me lol. Mid-ugly at best is a theme with the elements of this set.

The pilot looks like a Star Wars figure to me. Which, initially, could seem like a compliment. But I mean more the else-world video game figures from the 2008 era that were ambitious with their attention to detail, but eventually age poorly. Quite a peculiar point of reference, but, all this to say... I think he will age poorly. As in, he looks fine if you squint now. haha

As for Red-Hulk, hoping this makes aftermarket prices on the Hulk v Red Hulk set go down on Bricklink. Not that they're particularly high anyways. I agree this figure is also comic accurate and so dapper. He looks amazing, but I'll pass knowing we have a similarly interchangeably dapper comic based Red Hulk available in a better set. Yeah, there's now a set worse than Hulk truck vs Red Hulk truck.

I will say I have a mental trip with figures like Red Hulk. He comes in a cinematic set but his figure is accurate to the comics. I am very particular about how I display my figures and never have my MCU figs displayed with my comic figs. Always in their own lane. Heck, I wouldn't even display first appearance Wonder Woman and Batman besides figures from the New 52 or Rebirth. So when a figure like Red Hulk is comic accurate despite appearing in a MCU set, I get kind of a headache. Feels like cheating when you pose em with your comic figures lol. Last example I could think of this would be how Black Manta has been depicted in a near identical suit in the comics as the one we got from the Aquaman movie set. kind of neat.