Marvel Superheroes 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[RobbieHxC]

On 5/17/2024 at 12:04 AM, Classic_Spaceman said:

This is a very pervasive myth that needs to end: The only villains that we have missed in the past few years have been Dar-Benn, the High Evolutionary, Dreykov, Yon-Rogg, and Ego.

I don't think this is a myth.

I actually think LEGO Marvel is really keen on antiheroes - for example, they recently produced minifgures for Loki, Namor, Scarlet Witch, Magneto, Agatha Harkness, and Echo.  However, a lot of genuine villains have been missing from sets recently and it has become a pattern.  Granted, the recent MCU villains haven't all been A-Listers but you only have to look across the aisle to LEGO Star Wars or Harry Potter and observe that lots of D-Listers from their films and shows get minifigures.  Kang the Conqueror, Baron Zemo, Kingpin, and Mr Sinister are all big names in the world of comics and could all easily be included in recent sets or the CMFs.

Marvel has a much bigger catalogue of supervillains than AIM goons, HYDRA goons, Chitauri, and Thanos.

[ARC2149Nova]

4 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Marvel has a much bigger catalogue of supervillains than AIM goons, HYDRA goons, Chitauri, and Thanos.

Add to that Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Venom, and Carnage and you have the villains in literally every Marvel set.

GotG needed to have their main villains in the waves, but instead we got random Ravagers and Ayesha for 2, and only Adam Warlock in 3 (who honestly doesn't count).

Yon-Rogg would've been incredibly easy to design and release. The other two are *yawn*, but even still, The Hoopty needed something to justify its inane price.

X-Men is also starting to trend to the idea that they only battle Magneto, which is incredibly false. Granted, we've only gotten so many sets, but Lego needs to expand their character selections badly.

[NXS7]

7 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Marvel has a much bigger catalogue of supervillains than AIM goons, HYDRA goons, Chitauri, and Thanos.

Just think, if we ever had the Marvel equivalent of LEGO DC Super Villains, it would probably be based around henchmen 

It's disappointing we don't really get any games anymore, I'd love to see a LEGO Marvel: Infinity Saga game with similar action to the Skywalker Saga game

[HarryPotter]

3 hours ago, NXS7 said:

Just think, if we ever had the Marvel equivalent of LEGO DC Super Villains, it would probably be based around henchmen 

It's disappointing we don't really get any games anymore, I'd love to see a LEGO Marvel: Infinity Saga game with similar action to the Skywalker Saga game

Now that Marvel has lifted the ban on the X-Men and the Fantastic Four, I'd really like a TSG-like Marvel Superheroes 3 where besides New York City, you can also free roam on Wakanda, Latveria, Genosha, Xandar, Knowhere, etc.

Edited May 21, 2024 by HarryPotter

[JeanGreyForever]

3 hours ago, NXS7 said:

Just think, if we ever had the Marvel equivalent of LEGO DC Super Villains, it would probably be based around henchmen 

It's disappointing we don't really get any games anymore, I'd love to see a LEGO Marvel: Infinity Saga game with similar action to the Skywalker Saga game

Is there a reason Lego hasn't made another Marvel video game since Marvel Super Heroes 2? Like you said, it's really weird they never made an Infinity Saga game.

[JohnTPT17]

56 minutes ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Is there a reason Lego hasn't made another Marvel video game since Marvel Super Heroes 2? Like you said, it's really weird they never made an Infinity Saga game.

I imagine it's probably a combination of: 1, MSH2 and Avengers not meeting sales expectations; 2, the high cost of making another Avengers game, especially if they had to pay for even more likenesses/voices, or 3, not wanting to compete with that other Marvel game that came out in 2020. All of those are just guesses, though. 

[wesker]

On 5/21/2024 at 1:21 AM, RobbieHxC said:

I don't think this is a myth.

I actually think LEGO Marvel is really keen on antiheroes - for example, they recently produced minifgures for Loki, Namor, Scarlet Witch, Magneto, Agatha Harkness, and Echo.  However, a lot of genuine villains have been missing from sets recently and it has become a pattern.  Granted, the recent MCU villains haven't all been A-Listers but you only have to look across the aisle to LEGO Star Wars or Harry Potter and observe that lots of D-Listers from their films and shows get minifigures.  Kang the Conqueror, Baron Zemo, Kingpin, and Mr Sinister are all big names in the world of comics and could all easily be included in recent sets or the CMFs.

Marvel has a much bigger catalogue of supervillains than AIM goons, HYDRA goons, Chitauri, and Thanos.

I don't think Marvel villains are dying out. Over the past few years we've still seen Green Goblin, Red Skull, Doc Ock, Ronan, Gorr, Venom, Carnage, Arnim Zola, Lizard, Electro, Rhino, Obadiah Stane, Whiplash, Mysterio, Ebony Maw, Attuma, Wenwu, Sinister Strange, Alexander Pierce and Ultron MK1 all appear in sets.

A bigger problem I'm finding is Lego playing it too safe and giving us the bare minimum of characters regardless of whether they're good or bad. This year's Spider-Man and Avengers selection feels stale because they offer little beyond repeats of the same characters.
 

On 5/21/2024 at 6:07 AM, ARC2149Nova said:

X-Men is also starting to trend to the idea that they only battle Magneto, which is incredibly false. Granted, we've only gotten so many sets, but Lego needs to expand their character selections badly.

To be fair the lack of villains isn't the X-Men's only problem. This line has been going for 12 years now and it has still barely expanded upon the core team roster. Even with the X-Mansion coming its still leaving out important heroes from the show like Nightcrawler and Jubilee.

[psqidexslizer]

1 hour ago, wesker said:

To be fair the lack of villains isn't the X-Men's only problem. This line has been going for 12 years now and it has still barely expanded upon the core team roster. Even with the X-Mansion coming its still leaving out important heroes from the show like Nightcrawler and Jubilee.

In all fairness, that’s largely been out of Lego’s control. As recently as 2020, X-Men were off limit. Lego couldn’t even sneak Iceman in the Daily Bugle. And now that they are back on the table, it’s been years since they’ve had a movie, much less one that was successful and not R-rated. And despite how much I personally wish we got more sets for the show, and despite how well it’s been doing, there was a risk involved in going all out. And Lego is putting out a $300 set which is pretty crazy for a (as of a month ago, unproven) tv series, which is pretty bold.

In short, I understand the frustration. The X-Men are my favorite comic book characters. But there’s reasons why we’ve barely seen them in Lego form. And hopefully that will change very soon.

Edited May 22, 2024 by psqidexslizer

[JeanGreyForever]

1 minute ago, psqidexslizer said:

In all fairness, that’s largely been out of Lego’s control. As recently as 2020, X-Men were off limit. Lego couldn’t even sneak Iceman in the Daily Bugle. And now that they are back on the table, it’s been years since they’ve had a movie, much less one that was successful and not R-rated. And despite how much I personally wish we got more sets for the show, and despite how well it’s been doing, there was a risk involved in going all out. And Lego is putting out a $300 set which is pretty crazy for a (as of a month ago, unproven) tv series, which is pretty bold.

In short, I understand the frustration. The X-Men are my favorite comic book characters. But there’s reasons why we’ve barely seen them in Lego form. And hopefully that will change very soon.

Yeah, the FF have had it way worse. Outside of Doctor Doom, we've never got any of the FF characters in minifig form. And now we're not even going to get the Silver Surfer.

22 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

I imagine it's probably a combination of: 1, MSH2 and Avengers not meeting sales expectations; 2, the high cost of making another Avengers game, especially if they had to pay for even more likenesses/voices, or 3, not wanting to compete with that other Marvel game that came out in 2020. All of those are just guesses, though. 

That seems likely. I played the first two games but not MSH2. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

6 hours ago, wesker said:

This year's Spider-Man and Avengers selection feels stale because they offer little beyond repeats of the same characters.

Exactly. The sets themselves are awesome, but boy is this the most boring range of minifigs we‘ve ever seen in a Marvel summer wave  I appreciate the updated designs (and the fire demons), but would it have killed them to include Kraglin or Howard the Duck in the Milano to spice things up a bit?  Or at least include new variants of characters we haven‘t seen in ages, like Quicksilver, Strucker, or Ultron?

It is what it is tho. Still a great wave overall!

[poisonbricks]

11 hours ago, wesker said:

To be fair the lack of villains isn't the X-Men's only problem. This line has been going for 12 years now and it has still barely expanded upon the core team roster. Even with the X-Mansion coming its still leaving out important heroes from the show like Nightcrawler and Jubilee.

Honestly, given the dodgy licencing situation, LEGO X-Men has done REALLY well, imo.

Wolverine, Deadpool, Magneto, Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Beast, Firestar, and then the X-Mansion figures? 

Arguably, and I know it's only really because of '97, X-Men have done better than any of the other major Marvel teams in terms of their classic designs. Take the Avengers - the Cap design we have is kind of awful, the only comic Iron Man suits are Invincible and the weird visual dictionary one, and we don't even have Ant-Man and the Wasp. 

[HarryPotter]

And the Fantastic Four minifigures : ERROR 404 NOT FOUND

[HadesKing28]

When do we think we can expect the X-Mansion to be announced?

[BrickBob Studpants]

20 minutes ago, HadesKing28 said:

When do we think we can expect the X-Mansion to be announced?

Late September or early October would be my guess. The set itself may inadvertedly show up in a store early (as has happened multiple times before with D2C sets) or the minifigs could look leak around late August, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for either of these scenarios

[HadesKing28]

Ah thank you 

Seems strange that they aren’t capitalising on the shows release - fingers crossed we get a wave of sets for the second season 

Edited May 25, 2024 by HadesKing28

[poisonbricks]

LEGO is weirdly insistent on revealing its D2Cs very soon before release, I don't get why. Most other major toy companies reveal products pretty much around the time they're being finalised, if even that late. 

A lot of people don't have the money immediately available to drop hundreds on a set, and sure, most of the time they're around for a while, but when they incentivise day-of purchases with GWPs and that kind of thing it feels like a kinda lame move to not let people budget that far in advance.

Everyone who would buy a three hundred dollar LEGO X-Mansion is going to do it anyway, it's not like there's a particular hype cycle to maintain like with videogames. I just don't get it.

[psqidexslizer]

2 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

LEGO is weirdly insistent on revealing its D2Cs very soon before release, I don't get why. Most other major toy companies reveal products pretty much around the time they're being finalised, if even that late. 

A lot of people don't have the money immediately available to drop hundreds on a set, and sure, most of the time they're around for a while, but when they incentivise day-of purchases with GWPs and that kind of thing it feels like a kinda lame move to not let people budget that far in advance.

Everyone who would buy a three hundred dollar LEGO X-Mansion is going to do it anyway, it's not like there's a particular hype cycle to maintain like with videogames. I just don't get it.

Because Lego is made from little plastic bricks, the turn around time for cheap Chinese knockoffs isn’t as long as it is for other products with unique tons of unique molds. The reason they hesitate so long is to make sure the knockoffs don’t beat them to the punch.

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

particular hype cycle to maintain like with videogames

which ironically often get trailers years upon years before release.

5 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Because Lego is made from little plastic bricks, the turn around time for cheap Chinese knockoffs isn’t as long as it is for other products with unique tons of unique molds. The reason they hesitate so long is to make sure the knockoffs don’t beat them to the punch.

And the D2Cs specifically, because the more expensive a set is, the bigger discount the knockoff company can apply while still making a profit. Lego makes more profit off a $400 set than a $15 one, as would a knockoff company, so the knockoff companies try to ape more of the larger sets.

Edited May 26, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[Lego Nostalgia]

I pray we get Quicksilver in January, also is there a chance we could get a Comic Deadpool in January ?

[psqidexslizer]

53 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I pray we get Quicksilver in January, also is there a chance we could get a Comic Deadpool in January ?

There’s a chance you could get Comic Deadpool in January. You could also get him right now, if you’re willing to drop upwards of $30.

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sh032&name=Deadpool&category=[Super Heroes][X-Men]#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}

[Mandalorianknight]

4 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I pray we get Quicksilver in January, also is there a chance we could get a Comic Deadpool in January ?

Dude we've had this conversation like 50 times.

Sure, nothing's 100% impossible, but lego has never willingly made figures or sets based on a TV-MA or R property. Characters even remotely associated with the rating (Daredevil, Punisher, Blade) are relegated to 18+ sets and comic based variants. Deadpool is the very embodiment of vulgarity in superhero content, and his comic suit looks very similar to his movie suit. We've already seen the most they could do for deadpool in the past (because he's popular, so whatever their rules let them do, they'll do it), and that's comic-con exclusive figures that are clearly completely different variants of the character (sheriff, duck). With deadpool 3, a very r-rated movie, including deadpool variants, and comic-con figures gone, even that option's been lost.

TLDR No

Edited May 28, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Dude we've had this conversation like 50 times.

Sure, nothing's 100% impossible, but lego has never willingly made figures or sets based on a TV-MA or R property. Characters even remotely associated with the rating (Daredevil, Punisher, Blade) are relegated to 18+ sets and comic based variants. Deadpool is the very embodiment of vulgarity in superhero content, and his comic suit looks very similar to his movie suit. We've already seen the most they could do for deadpool in the past (because he's popular, so whatever their rules let them do, they'll do it), and that's comic-con exclusive figures that are clearly completely different variants of the character (sheriff, duck). With deadpool 3, a very r-rated movie, including deadpool variants, and comic-con figures gone, even that option's been lost.

TLDR No

We have a Deadpool figure from 2012. So there is mainline precedent.

Remember the R Rated Suicide Squad from 2016? We got several figures loosely related to said film (Katana, Killer Croc, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot) in 2016, and one that is undeniably inspired during the Lego Movie 2 sets (Apocalypseburg Harley Quinn is clearly based off the Margot Robbie version).

Deadpool is popular enough that Lego can find ways to make him. Now, I personally say just open your wallets for the 2012 figure, painfully pricey as it is, because you're right in that the chance of a re-release is slim, but never zero.

Also, we have tons of mass murderers (every villain ever), rapists (TLBM's Tarantula, Talia al Ghul), and worse throughout Lego's history. Deadpool just says naughty words (and kills people, but who doesn't ).

Again, unlikely, I can give you that. But not impossible.

[Mandalorianknight]

19 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

We have a Deadpool figure from 2012. So there is mainline precedent.

Remember the R Rated Suicide Squad from 2016? We got several figures loosely related to said film (Katana, Killer Croc, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot) in 2016, and one that is undeniably inspired during the Lego Movie 2 sets (Apocalypseburg Harley Quinn is clearly based off the Margot Robbie version).

Deadpool is popular enough that Lego can find ways to make him. Now, I personally say just open your wallets for the 2012 figure, painfully pricey as it is, because you're right in that the chance of a re-release is slim, but never zero.

Also, we have tons of mass murderers (every villain ever), rapists (TLBM's Tarantula, Talia al Ghul), and worse throughout Lego's history. Deadpool just says naughty words (and kills people, but who doesn't ).

Again, unlikely, I can give you that. But not impossible.

That was before the movies gave him the level of mainline popularity and general audience (and parents') view he now has as THE R-rated supehero.

That was a PG-13 movie (And they STILL avoided direct tie ins)

If that was true, they would already have done it. 

Again, also true, but lego isn't avoiding making him because of the character's morals. It's about the vulgarity of the content he's now most associated with. Lego's made nazis (albeit not titled as such) as recently as last year, because the set was based on a PG-13 movie. 

Edited May 28, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[Legocentrico]

New Brick Clicker video! Is there any news???

[ARC2149Nova]

35 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

If that was true, they would already have done it. 

There are plenty of things Lego could have done already, but they haven't. That's not a rebuttal.

Again, if anyone here wants an official Lego Deadpool, cough up the $20-$40 he costs on Bricklink, as there's no guarantee he'll see a rerelease, but I think Deadpool as a character holds broader mainstream popularity than just his films. He has always been a fan-favorite, even among kids.

Also, not saying that Lego views things this way, but a lot less parents care about the R-rated thing now than in years past. This could be anecdotal on my part, and I'm not arguing that means Lego will make Deadpool, just putting it out there that the R-rating might not cross some parents' minds (and of course, everyone is different).

Me personally, I don't even like Deadpool all that much, so I couldn't care less if he gets remade, but Lego has been known to find loopholes around their morals.

In summary: Deadpool's on Bricklink, go buy him.