JeanGreyForever Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 Deadpool was supposed to be in the Daily Bugle set. Marvel said no, presumably because he was a Fox character like Iceman and the Human Torch. This seems to indicate that Lego didn't have a problem including him back then, especially since they also said they were specifically able to use Daredevil and Punisher in the Daily Bugle, despite their R-rated content, because this wasn't a regular set. So if we get another D2C Spider-Man set, like Oscorp, Deadpool's best chance would be to appear in that.
Shahennian Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 10 minifigures rumoured to be in the X-Mansion. No list yet.
Legocentrico Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 53 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: New Brick Clicker video! Is there any news??? Come on, no English speakers saw the video? :-D
Agent Kallus Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 31 minutes ago, Legocentrico said: Come on, no English speakers saw the video? :-D I didn't watch the video but he did update his Instagram post on the X-mansion Set number 76294, 3093 parts, $329.99, should be 10 figs I don't know if any of this is new information though, no big important new info either way.
ARC2149Nova Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: Deadpool was supposed to be in the Daily Bugle set. Marvel said no, presumably because he was a Fox character like Iceman and the Human Torch. This seems to indicate that Lego didn't have a problem including him back then, especially since they also said they were specifically able to use Daredevil and Punisher in the Daily Bugle, despite their R-rated content, because this wasn't a regular set. So if we get another D2C Spider-Man set, like Oscorp, Deadpool's best chance would be to appear in that. I mean, fricking Blade! 3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: Set number 76294, 3093 parts, $329.99, should be 10 figs I don't know if any of this is new information though, no big important new info either way. The only thing worth getting revealed now is the exact figure selection plus outfit selections.
JeanGreyForever Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: I didn't watch the video but he did update his Instagram post on the X-mansion Set number 76294, 3093 parts, $329.99, should be 10 figs I don't know if any of this is new information though, no big important new info either way. The Home Alone set has almost a thousand more pieces. So I guess this X-Mansion won't be as big as that. Or maybe the back won't be covered up.
hikouki Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 6 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: I didn't watch the video but he did update his Instagram post on the X-mansion Set number 76294, 3093 parts, $329.99, should be 10 figs I don't know if any of this is new information though, no big important new info either way. 3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: The Home Alone set has almost a thousand more pieces. So I guess this X-Mansion won't be as big as that. Or maybe the back won't be covered up. 10 figs. Perhaps Magneto, Wolvie, Rogue, Cyclops, Beast and Storm will be repeats? Just my guess. So that means fewer new characters. Perhaps it will just be an open-back build, and non-modular consider the date of release is close to the possible next modular?
JeanGreyForever Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 1 hour ago, hikouki said: 10 figs. Perhaps Magneto, Wolvie, Rogue, Cyclops, Beast and Storm will be repeats? Just my guess. So that means fewer new characters. Perhaps it will just be an open-back build, and non-modular consider the date of release is close to the possible next modular? Leakers online said it wouldn't be a modular. Also it was stated on here that the 10 figure lineup is the six characters you mentioned plus Jean Grey, Gambit, Professor X, and Morph.
CloneCommando99 Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 Do we know whether the figs in teh X-Mansion will have their primary suits or their secondary suits (the ones they put on towards the end of the season) because honestly I’m not a big fan of the secondary suits and honestly think the primary suits look way better.
ARC2149Nova Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said: Do we know whether the figs in teh X-Mansion will have their primary suits or their secondary suits (the ones they put on towards the end of the season) because honestly I’m not a big fan of the secondary suits and honestly think the primary suits look way better. I am the total opposite, really hope we get remasters of the figures from the old Blackbird set (with new hair for Storm). Never really liked "bald" Cyclops until I started reading the old Claremont run. Now it's probably my favorite outfit. Brown suit Wolverine would also be really fresh, we've had like 3 of the Tiger stripes in the last two years. Now Marvel Girl Jean Grey is a hard pass for me, Jim Lee or bust . Would love a regular release Phoenix, but that's probably not happening. 4 hours ago, hikouki said: 10 figs. Perhaps Magneto, Wolvie, Rogue, Cyclops, Beast and Storm will be repeats? Just my guess. So that means fewer new characters. Perhaps it will just be an open-back build, and non-modular consider the date of release is close to the possible next modular? Magneto better not be wearing that ugly-as-sin suit... If Cyke is a repeat, he needs boots. Also, Beast and Storm will be new off the strength that CMFs never get released in normal sets.
BrickBob Studpants Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 14 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said: Also, Beast and Storm will be new off the strength that CMFs never get released in normal sets. Tiana and Aurora would like to have a word The change in the production procedure of CMF series is a two-edged sword. On the one hand, the pieces are now on the same quality as regular parts and everything‘s interchangeable, but on the other, they‘re no longer guaranteed to be exclusive. Personally, I don‘t mind the reduced exclusivity. The gain in quality is well worth it!
poisonbricks Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Do we know whether the figs in teh X-Mansion will have their primary suits or their secondary suits (the ones they put on towards the end of the season) because honestly I’m not a big fan of the secondary suits and honestly think the primary suits look way better. I feel like it's almost guaranteed it's their first suits. 1. Like half of the set's figure selection is already wearing them. Wolverine, Rogue, Cyclops and Magneto at least, maybe Storm and Beast could be reused, so why either remake them when there's a perfectly good figure already, or have half and half wearing different sets of suits. Plus, if we have Morph, they could use one new leg print for both them and Cyclops. 2. The second ones are arguably much less iconic 3. Did LEGO even know about the second suits when this set began production? The only toy company I've seen to produce an alternate suit for anyone has been Marvel Legends just with Magneto's classic red.
Lego Nostalgia Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 For those of you who have told me to buy Deadpool on bricklink, there is no need since I have 2 of him, I just want a different design suit Also it's funny how this is like the 3rd time we've got info about the X-Mansion and still no Minifigure list lol. But 10 figs in a 330$ set is very strange, should have included at least 15 or 14
ARC2149Nova Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 3 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said: For those of you who have told me to buy Deadpool on bricklink, there is no need since I have 2 of him, I just want a different design suit That wasn't meant to be a jab (and definitely not specifically directed at you), just being honest about the situation. At least you have a Deadpool, it could be worse.
Mandalorianknight Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 (edited) On 5/28/2024 at 4:50 PM, ARC2149Nova said: There are plenty of things Lego could have done already, but they haven't. That's not a rebuttal. Me personally, I don't even like Deadpool all that much, so I couldn't care less if he gets remade, but Lego has been known to find loopholes around their morals. I think it is in this situation. A deadpool figure would immediately sell whatever set he was in to insane levels. More than even someone like Rex. They fact that they haven't yet would certainly imply that for whatever reason, they can't or don't want to. I think the real proof of this is if he doesn't show up in the X-mansion. That's by far the best opportunity for them to put him in- relates to a non-R-rated property he's been in (the 90s series), a big 18+ set, etc. It's also been Neither do I, and you are correct that lego can find loopholes around their morals. Realistically, it's not so much the morality as whether or not people will complain. But they cancelled a set that was already being sent to stores because a relatively small german group complained. If they put Deadpool in a set, it's not releasing. Not with him in it, at least. 16 hours ago, poisonbricks said: I feel like it's almost guaranteed it's their first suits. 1. Like half of the set's figure selection is already wearing them. Wolverine, Rogue, Cyclops and Magneto at least, maybe Storm and Beast could be reused, so why either remake them when there's a perfectly good figure already, or have half and half wearing different sets of suits. Plus, if we have Morph, they could use one new leg print for both them and Cyclops. 2. The second ones are arguably much less iconic 3. Did LEGO even know about the second suits when this set began production? The only toy company I've seen to produce an alternate suit for anyone has been Marvel Legends just with Magneto's classic red. Yeah, I have to agree. Especially with a set like this, which is larger and will have been in production longer. 19 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: Also, Beast and Storm will be new off the strength that CMFs never get released in normal sets. I thought lego not having done something yet didn't mean they couldn't/wouldn't? Sorry- I saw the opportunity and I had to take it. To be honest, I have been wondering about that- it seems like a monumentally poor decision to re-use the same characters if they aren't the CMF versions- not that it wasn't for Wolverine in the X-jet- but like you said, lego really doesn't re-use figs between CMFs and non-CMF sets. Edited May 30, 2024 by Mandalorianknight
ARC2149Nova Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 39 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I thought lego not having done something yet didn't mean they couldn't/wouldn't? Sorry- I saw the opportunity and I had to take it. To be honest, I have been wondering about that- it seems like a monumentally poor decision to re-use the same characters if they aren't the CMF versions- not that it wasn't for Wolverine in the X-jet- but like you said, lego really doesn't re-use figs between CMFs and non-CMF sets. You dare use my own spells against me, @Mandalorianknight? 39 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I think it is in this situation. A deadpool figure would immediately sell whatever set he was in to insane levels. More than even someone like Rex. They fact that they haven't yet would certainly imply that for whatever reason, they can't or don't want to. I think the real proof of this is if he doesn't show up in the X-mansion. That's by far the best opportunity for them to put him in- relates to a non-R-rated property he's been in (the 90s series), a big 18+ set, etc. It's also been Neither do I, and you are correct that lego can find loopholes around their morals. Realistically, it's not so much the morality as whether or not people will complain. But they cancelled a set that was already being sent to stores because a relatively small german group complained. If they put Deadpool in a set, it's not releasing. Not with him in it, at least. There are a lot of factors at play though, @JeanGreyForever mentioned why characters like Daredevil, Punisher, and Blade made it into the Bugle, and apparently Deadpool was intended to be included, but Marvel said no. There's more to it than a simple "Deadpool is Rated R". Also, I'm not familiar with the German controversy, but I doubt Deadpool would carry the same response. In either case, I think its agreeable that's it's incredibly unlikely to happen anytime soon, regardless of the external factors.
JeanGreyForever Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: I think it is in this situation. A deadpool figure would immediately sell whatever set he was in to insane levels. More than even someone like Rex. They fact that they haven't yet would certainly imply that for whatever reason, they can't or don't want to. I think the real proof of this is if he doesn't show up in the X-mansion. That's by far the best opportunity for them to put him in- relates to a non-R-rated property he's been in (the 90s series), a big 18+ set, etc. It's also been Neither do I, and you are correct that lego can find loopholes around their morals. Realistically, it's not so much the morality as whether or not people will complain. But they cancelled a set that was already being sent to stores because a relatively small german group complained. If they put Deadpool in a set, it's not releasing. Not with him in it, at least. Another thing to keep in mind is that the X-Men '97 showrunner, Beau DeMayo, confirmed that Marvel would not allow Deadpool to show up in X-Men '97. If Marvel's restricting his use in the show, there's no way they're going to let him appear in merch for the show.
BrickBob Studpants Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: […] but like you said, lego really doesn't re-use figs between CMFs and non-CMF sets. They do though. Both Tiana and Aurora from the Disney 100 series have been reused in other sets (the former in last year‘s Cinderella castle and the latter in this year‘s mini Sleeping Beauty castle). The only things still exclusive about their CMF versions are their accessories
ARC2149Nova Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 9 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: They do though. Both Tiana and Aurora from the Disney 100 series have been reused in other sets (the former in last year‘s Cinderella castle and the latter in this year‘s mini Sleeping Beauty castle). The only things still exclusive about their CMF versions are their accessories I am really starting to wonder then, what is the point of CMFs if they're not exclusive to their respective series? It defeats their whole point.
Gorilla94 Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said: I am really starting to wonder then, what is the point of CMFs if they're not exclusive to their respective series? It defeats their whole point. I´d say the series whole point is getting Lego money. Lego put much more moulding budget into the line over the years. Because of that they raised the price by far more than (often not even included) licence costs, inflation and increased moulding/printing costs justify. I mean we are talking about 100% price increase since they were 2€. Then they started to (ab)use that buget to make more and more standard moulds like a new firefighter helmet or bicycle helmet with female hair - a standard piece that would normally be a random new city part with it´s own budget. Putting them in boxes (using greenwashing arguments) so people need to buy more instead of feeling for them failed. I have still tons of Marvel figures resting on shelves on every store in my city as well as the other serieses, if there is one of the small not readable qr codes on them (or it is one of the really unpopular figures). The next logical step was reusing even prints to maximise profit. As long as there are still some figures that stay exclusive and the best version of that character, people will still be buying the cmfs, even If lego reuses lots of those moulds and prints later. I´d say the next step will be raising prices again. Edited May 30, 2024 by Gorilla94
BrickBob Studpants Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: I am really starting to wonder then, what is the point of CMFs if they're not exclusive to their respective series? It defeats their whole point. 16 out of 18 minifigs from that series are still exclusive, and for the other two, at least their accessories still are. Also, this isn‘t a new thing since Donald from S1 also showed up in the first Disney castle, I just remembered. Plus, I don‘t see a reason why CMF figures absolutely have to stay exclusive. If it makes sense for specific parts (like the bard‘s torso and coins) to reappear, why not entire figures here and there? It‘s still an exception rather than the norm and a vast majority of CMF figures will never show up in sets no matter what Edited May 30, 2024 by BrickBob Studpants
ARC2149Nova Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 17 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Plus, I don‘t see a reason why CMF figures absolutely have to stay exclusive. If it makes sense for specific parts (like the bard‘s torso and coins) to reappear, why not entire figures here and there? It‘s still an exception rather than the norm and a vast majority of CMF figures will never show up in sets no matter what I agree, I'd love for that to be the norm, actually. Just seems surprising that they'd change on that. But then again, Disney in-house IPs might get more love than other licenses in that regard. 1 hour ago, Gorilla94 said: I´d say the series whole point is getting Lego money. All I'm getting is that they should try putting some of that innovation into sets' figures. If a CMF isn't exclusive to its respective series, then it shouldn't be a CMF to begin with, just a wide release figure.
thebricksbear Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 5 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: I am really starting to wonder then, what is the point of CMFs if they're not exclusive to their respective series? It defeats their whole point. CMFs are the single best way to get new, niche, and detailed figs. By a long shot. I'd even suggest that Tiana may have been skipped for another princess in the castle and the Aurora castle would've been skipped entirely if not for the CMF. #1- CMF's are still the cheapest way to get specific figs and pieces, even if they're not exclusive. Literally no other lego sets, including polybags, are as cheap as CMF's. If you're looking for a 'lute' accessory, buying it with a CMF is the cheapest way to do so, save for as part of a bricklink order or something. #2- The CMF team, or the CMF line itself, get's budget to create things that become staple lego pieces and figs afterwards. For example, a new goat was likely to appear in sets regardless, but pieces like Pocahontas' hair only became options for characters like Isabella (in the disney princess line) because the mold existed for Pocahontas first. Even if you never buy a single CMF, the fact that it exists is making other lego sets better. Exclusive has become a dirty word lately thanks to a certain fandom, lol. Uniqueness is the antithesis of a brick-building system. Something being collectible shouldn't mean no one else has it. And of course the people who are buying this product to increase rarity and resell can eat it.
Gorilla94 Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 4 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: All I'm getting is that they should try putting some of that innovation into sets' figures. If a CMF isn't exclusive to its respective series, then it shouldn't be a CMF to begin with, just a wide release figure. The thing that bothers me is that you can count the special moulds for old lines like lotr/hobbit and compare it to new stuff that comes together with a cmf. If you do not count special pieces like the firefighters helmet or Gryffindors sword introduced by a CMF (which has it´s own budget), the pricing of many new sets/waves seems to me too high/the effort too low.
Mandalorianknight Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 10 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: You dare use my own spells against me, @Mandalorianknight? There are a lot of factors at play though, @JeanGreyForever mentioned why characters like Daredevil, Punisher, and Blade made it into the Bugle, and apparently Deadpool was intended to be included, but Marvel said no. There's more to it than a simple "Deadpool is Rated R". Also, I'm not familiar with the German controversy, but I doubt Deadpool would carry the same response. In either case, I think its agreeable that's it's incredibly unlikely to happen anytime soon, regardless of the external factors. I don't know. Stafford was clearly hinting that marvel said no to deadpool, but I don't think that's an indication that the lego group's executives would have greenlit the fig anyway- the list was supposedly 60-70 figures, so it was pretty clearly very far from a complete product. Lego designed, manufactured, and sent a set based on the Osprey to some stores. During this time period, some german group started complaining that the Osprey is only used by militaries (though Lego's particular model/markings were of a search and rescue one rather than a weaponized one). Lego pulled the entire set, which probably cost them a lot of money even with re-using the parts. I dunno about germany, but in america, I think the average parent would be more averse to lego making a deadpool figure than lego making a set based on a vehicle that isn't a weaponized version but still only used by militaries. 9 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: Another thing to keep in mind is that the X-Men '97 showrunner, Beau DeMayo, confirmed that Marvel would not allow Deadpool to show up in X-Men '97. If Marvel's restricting his use in the show, there's no way they're going to let him appear in merch for the show. That's true, but I still think it works against the character showing up anytime soon. This would have been THE SET to include him in.
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