Wizarding World 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[Hermes Mocs]

An image of the upcoming CMF series just leaked. We'll be getting a new adult wolf mould and what seems to be a long-haired cat in white (hard to tell, but the tail seems to be more fluffy than the one of the existing cat mould).

I would not be surprised if we see recolors of those new moulds as Padfoot and Crookshanks in the future.

[Chocolate Frog]

26 minutes ago, Hermes Mocs said:

An image of the upcoming CMF series just leaked. We'll be getting a new adult wolf mould and what seems to be a long-haired cat in white (hard to tell, but the tail seems to be more fluffy than the one of the existing cat mould).

I would not be surprised if we see recolors of those new moulds as Padfoot and Crookshanks in the future.

What Google search should I do to see this? I’m not very experienced at searching for leaks! thank you.

[Hermes Mocs]

I saw it on instagram, @cmf6169_leaks was the account. But the image had a confidential stamp, so it might have been taken down again already.

[Accio Lego]

59 minutes ago, Hermes Mocs said:

I saw it on instagram, @cmf6169_leaks was the account. But the image had a confidential stamp, so it might have been taken down again already.

It’s still there, and @michael_bricks_f0rever also has the image on their account currently. 
 

It’s hard to tell exactly how well the new cat or wolf would work for Harry Potter characters currently, since the image is an out of focus group shot where most of those animals’ bodies are concealed - we wouldn’t even be talking about a new cat if it weren’t noticeable that the tail in the pic was thicker, the way things are place make it impossible to tell if the face shape is any different.
 

That said, I wouldn’t get excited about Padfoot appearing in the wolf mold, he’s a big dog but ultimately still a domesticated dog, and the current mold used for him is actually the correct size, and scales well by being noticeably smaller than the minifigure werewolf, which I’m not sure the new wolf would. 
 

Crookshanks, on the other hand, probably would look better with the new cat mold. There have been two attempts at him (both since the reboot) and there were some pretty large changes between the two, suggesting that the designers were aware that shorthair Crookshanks didn’t look quite right. Now, none of the January sets could include him, but the Knight Bus being on that list means that the foot is in the door for more PoA sets in the summer wave. I’ve said before that a PoA based Quality Quidditch Supplies and Magical Menagerie would make a good installment in the DA playset series, and any PoA castle section in the new modular system could easily include a Gryffindor common room. 

[Hermes Mocs]

41 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

That said, I wouldn’t get excited about Padfoot appearing in the wolf mold, he’s a big dog but ultimately still a domesticated dog, and the current mold used for him is actually the correct size, and scales well by being noticeably smaller than the minifigure werewolf, which I’m not sure the new wolf would.

Sure, it's speculation. But from what we (or I) can see, the mold seems to be more accurate in shape at least. The current dog mould used feels somewhat... flat. Regarding the size: The most recent dog mould we got was the Afghan hound whose shoulder height is one plate higher and whose head is two plates higher than the shepherd dog and the retriever. Padfoot being described as a huge dog, I'd say a slightly larger mould than the current one is proportionate. But as I said, it's speculation, though I'd love to see that.

Totally forgot about the rumoured Knight Bus. Makes it more likely imho hahahah. And if not: Acrylic paint ;)

[B234]

Hello, maybe I am going to buy the Lego 71043 Hogwarts castle. Is it true there are 2 versions? Both have different kind of grey towers. Thank you.

[Accio Lego]

2 hours ago, Hermes Mocs said:

Sure, it's speculation. But from what we (or I) can see, the mold seems to be more accurate in shape at least. The current dog mould used feels somewhat... flat. Regarding the size: The most recent dog mould we got was the Afghan hound whose shoulder height is one plate higher and whose head is two plates higher than the shepherd dog and the retriever. Padfoot being described as a huge dog, I'd say a slightly larger mould than the current one is proportionate. But as I said, it's speculation, though I'd love to see that.

Totally forgot about the rumoured Knight Bus. Makes it more likely imho hahahah. And if not: Acrylic paint ;)

I mean, neither the shepherd used in PoA or the deerhound used in OotP (movies) are quite as lanky an long necked as an Afghan hound, and none of that changes the fact that, large or not, Padfoot isn’t near the size of an actual wolf. It also doesn’t change the fact that one of his most notable scenes has him facing off against Moony the werewolf, where it’s obvious that 1) his face shape really is much more domestic dog instead of wolf, and more importantly 2) he’s significantly smaller than the werewolf, which is minifigure sized in lego form. It’s obviously tricky to tell from the pic we have, but the new wolf looks to be in a realistic scale with minifigs, which is to say that it should look roughly equal in size to one. That’s too big for Padfoot compared to Moony. 

[Hermes Mocs]

11 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

I mean, neither the shepherd used in PoA or the deerhound used in OotP (movies) are quite as lanky an long necked as an Afghan hound, and none of that changes the fact that, large or not, Padfoot isn’t near the size of an actual wolf. It also doesn’t change the fact that one of his most notable scenes has him facing off against Moony the werewolf, where it’s obvious that 1) his face shape really is much more domestic dog instead of wolf, and more importantly 2) he’s significantly smaller than the werewolf, which is minifigure sized in lego form. It’s obviously tricky to tell from the pic we have, but the new wolf looks to be in a realistic scale with minifigs, which is to say that it should look roughly equal in size to one. That’s too big for Padfoot compared to Moony. 

Yeah and Scabbers is more than half the size of a minifig. I think you're focusing too much on the limitations given by the real-life proportions in the movies.

Also it only was speculation, as I said.

Edited September 20, 2024 by Hermes Mocs

[Accio Lego]

5 hours ago, Hermes Mocs said:

Yeah and Scabbers is more than half the size of a minifig. I think you're focusing too much on the limitations given by the real-life proportions in the movies.

Also it only was speculation, as I said.

There’s a difference between ‘this small animal needs to be slightly bigger proportionally so it can fit on a stud’ and ‘lego isn’t realistic, so comparative sizes don’t matter’. The rat mold might be a bit larger in comparison to a human than they are in real life, but it’s still small enough for a minifigure to hold one in their hand, and it still looks smaller than the cat or owl (it’s natural predators). Thus, a dog that is supposed to be noticeably smaller than a wolf shouldn’t be the same size as one. And I’m still not sure why there’s any speculation about Padfoot using the wolf mold, since his facial and body structure aren’t the same at all. 

[Gorilla94]

Crookshanks would be wonderfull. He is the most missing thing, when it comes to HP minifigures, in my opinion.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Gorilla94 said:

Crookshanks would be wonderfull. He is the most missing thing, when it comes to HP minifigures, in my opinion.

He‘s not really missing since we had him twice already in the rebooted theme  I get what you mean though, we need a proper Crookshanks with a new piece!

[Hermes Mocs]

8 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

There’s a difference between ‘this small animal needs to be slightly bigger proportionally so it can fit on a stud’ and ‘lego isn’t realistic, so comparative sizes don’t matter’. The rat mold might be a bit larger in comparison to a human than they are in real life, but it’s still small enough for a minifigure to hold one in their hand, and it still looks smaller than the cat or owl (it’s natural predators). Thus, a dog that is supposed to be noticeably smaller than a wolf shouldn’t be the same size as one. And I’m still not sure why there’s any speculation about Padfoot using the wolf mold, since his facial and body structure aren’t the same at all. 

You are overestimating the weight LEGO puts on getting proportions or scale right. The main quality LEGO strives for is readability, and that applies to all of their figs, animals, regardless of their real-life size or the movie example.

Scabbers is only one example. The same is true for Cornish pixies that are magnitudes larger in the LEGO rendition than in the movies. Yes, the stud seems to be the minimum scale orientation in that regard. However, characters like Griphook or Dobby, mere half or a third/quarter the size of Harry etc., even in the first two movies, are the size of first and second graders in LEGO, because LEGO wants the figures to be read as "humanoid character", regardless of their actual size (which would be closer to the Cornish pixies in LEGO, which apparently is not too small to be done technically). There are loads of examples like this (I mean take the recent gorillas; they are near the size of a horse lol).

To name another example close to what we're discussing is the Fang we recently got. He's characterized as massive dog/gentle giant in the books. In the movies, Fang is hardly the height of the kids' hips, in LEGO he's almost eye to eye with the first graders from the same set. Again, it's because the focus is on the readability as Fang being a massive dog; any other dog mould would not convey that notion to the "reader". They even changed his color to make Fang's face print readable as boarhound/Neapolitan mastiff with all the creases.

So why would that not apply to Padfoot/Sirius? He's described as huge dog, so intimidatingly big Harry questions if he's actually seeing the grim. And regarding the movie example: I don't know what movie you saw, but at least the CGI version in PoA is massive: In this scene the shoulder height is like what, 8 inches/20 cm higher than the back of a regular park bench? So what height is he; 90cm, 1m? That's bigger than an average wolf. Also this is what you call "the fact that, large or not, Padfoot isn’t near the size of an actual wolf". Check at around 0:34. That thing is absolutely massive, nowhere near the size of a wolf but larger. Yes, he's smaller than werewolf Lupin, who, again, is rendered a minifigure so he's read as "actually a person". I don't expect the wolf mould to be larger than the Wolfpack fig it comes with, so I don't see your point that it might be larger than werewolf Lupin?!?. The wolf mould would scale quite well from what we can see (ofc it's no final judgement, as we don't actually know). I think the tattered look of Padfoot is also captured quite well, especially around the neck etc. (at least better than the current mould, and I take any improvement over that one).

Also, again: I said I would not be surprised if they used the mould, NOT that I would be surprised if they don't. I don't expect LEGO to use the mould or anything, but certainly I wish they would for the given reasons as it would be an improvement in my eyes. Luckily for you, you already got a LEGO Padfoot that fits your idea of him. So what's your problem with people who think it doesn't?

Edited September 21, 2024 by Hermes Mocs

[Gorilla94]

9 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

He‘s not really missing since we had him twice already in the rebooted theme  I get what you mean though, we need a proper Crookshanks with a new piece!

Yeah, I just count charakters I am satisfied with^^‘

[Accio Lego]

3 hours ago, Gorilla94 said:

Yeah, I just count charakters I am satisfied with^^‘

I mean, isn’t that why everyone went on about Mrs. Norris being ‘introduced’ in the 2022 Dumbledore’s Office set? I mean, when Filch first appeared in the 2010 Hogwarts Castle set he had a cat with him, but it used the old Belleville kitten mold so nobody really liked it or considered it a proper representation, and everyone was suitably impressed and excited when we ‘finally’ got Mrs. Norris after the reboot. 

[Gorilla94]

10 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

I mean, isn’t that why everyone went on about Mrs. Norris being ‘introduced’ in the 2022 Dumbledore’s Office set? I mean, when Filch first appeared in the 2010 Hogwarts Castle set he had a cat with him, but it used the old Belleville kitten mold so nobody really liked it or considered it a proper representation, and everyone was suitably impressed and excited when we ‘finally’ got Mrs. Norris after the reboot. 

To be honest I don't know^^' My dark ages started, when Lego changed to flesh minifigure, and lasted until the Simpsons came out.

All I want at this point from the minifigures are Crookshanks, the Bloody Baron, robes for the other houses using printed medium legs like the cmf Gryffindor ones, more child face prints and more lesser knwown teachers.

I qm super excited how the big Hogwarts with all Sets combined will Look like

[Accio Lego]

6 hours ago, Gorilla94 said:

more lesser knwown teachers

There actually aren’t many teachers left. All we have left is Professor Burbage (Muggle Studies), Professor Binns (History), and Professor Babbling (Ancient Runes), with Firenze (Divination, books only) and the Carrow siblings (agents of Voldemort) honorable mentions that most people wouldn’t necessarily consider part of the category. 
 

Of the first three, Charity Burbage is the only one who appears on screen (in a rather disturbing scene), but given this year’s introduction of Madam Malkin and Charlie Weasley there’s now a solid precedent for including off screen characters. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

What do you guys think will happen with this theme when the HBO series releases?

It's aiming for a 2026/2027 release date, so we have at most two years of this theme left as it is. But what then?

Will WB tell LEGO to focus all their merchandise on the new series? Will we still be getting sets based on existing movies? Will LEGO just stop making sets for this theme altogether?

[brickbride]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Will WB tell LEGO to focus all their merchandise on the new series? Will we still be getting sets based on existing movies? Will LEGO just stop making sets for this theme altogether?

As for the third question, no they won't. HP is one of their top-selling themes.

As for the first and second, honestly I don't know. I saw an ad recently that they're casting kids aged 9-11 for the trio, and explicitly welcome diversity. I've talked about that before and was shot down, but I'd be surprised if we ended up with an all-white trio or generally with the show's characters looking like the movies'. As to if and how LEGO change their HP minifigs to reflect any casting choices - well, Marvel might be a good comparision? There's the "Spidey and his Amazing Friends" cartoon for kids which gets 4+ sets, but there's a different Spiderman (or as of No Way Home, three different Spider-Men) in the MCU Multiverse. And then there's even more Spider-Man characters from, say, Across the Spiderverse which get sets as well (Miles Morales has had at least two I can think of, a mech and a car chase). They all just sort of exist next to each other. HP could go the same route, I guess. Of course, Spider-Man wears a mask most of the time, so while true fans surely can point out the differences in the costumes, for a casual buyer these characters are all just Spider-Man.And of course we don't know how successful the HP series will be whereas the movies have a proven audience (and nostalgic 90s kids are probably one of LEGO's main buyer groups by now, especially for the more expensive sets).

Going back to the 2025 sets: The X-Men Mansion over at Marvel is reported to be compatible with the modulars at just over 3000 pieces. I'm not personally sure how that would work since it's supposed to have a layout akin to the Natural History Museum, which had 1000 pieces more, and also includes a side-build (a Sentinel). But a leaked image apparently shows the modular connection points so let's assume the information is correct. That said, what do you expect from Malfory Manor? I'm sure we can rule out compatibility with the modular system and expect an open back, but how big do you expect the Manor to be, and how many studs deep?

Edited September 22, 2024 by brickbride

[mark1991t]

1 hour ago, Accio Lego said:

There actually aren’t many teachers left. All we have left is Professor Burbage (Muggle Studies), Professor Binns (History), and Professor Babbling (Ancient Runes), with Firenze (Divination, books only) and the Carrow siblings (agents of Voldemort) honorable mentions that most people wouldn’t necessarily consider part of the category. 
 

Of the first three, Charity Burbage is the only one who appears on screen (in a rather disturbing scene), but given this year’s introduction of Madam Malkin and Charlie Weasley there’s now a solid precedent for including off screen characters. 

Let's not forget Professor Grubbly-Plank who was clearly pointed out in (I think) the 5th movie. 

[Accio Lego]

Just now, mark1991t said:

Let's not forget Professor Grubbly-Plank who was clearly pointed out in (I think) the 5th movie. 

I don’t remember if she was clearly pointed out, but she is very visible behind Umbridge while she’s making her speech. Good catch.
The thing about Grubbly-Plank is that she’s only present for the first part of the year before Hagrid’s return, so to include her would require a large OotP Hogwarts set based off something other than the Weasley twins’ fireworks display or anything else that came after Hagrid’s return. Maybe something involving the first DA meeting plus the wall of Educational Decrees? I’d expect something like that to not have much room for random minifigures though, what with the DA vs Inquisitorial Squad narrative. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Will WB tell LEGO to focus all their merchandise on the new series? Will we still be getting sets based on existing movies? Will LEGO just stop making sets for this theme altogether?

Given how cautious TLG is with TV tie-ins, I can‘t see them going all in with show sets. The live-action Marvel shows are relegated to CMF series and even the non-Mando Star Wars shows get very few sets

Moreover, this is the first big franchise like that with a complete reboot, so most license partners will likely be cautious. There simply isn‘t any precedent. If they switch to TV show merch and it bombs, it would take a while to recover. Nostalagia is a big factor why current merch sells well, a major advantage which the show won‘t have. It‘s not a coincidence HP merch is doing better nowadays than it did when the movies actually came out!

I essence, movie sets still sell, show sets may fail. At most I could see them doing one wave each every year, as completely abandoning the movies is just too risky.

[mark1991t]

54 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

I don’t remember if she was clearly pointed out, but she is very visible behind Umbridge while she’s making her speech. Good catch.

I've watched it back now. It was in the 5th movie, about 30 minutes in. Dumbledore opens his speech: 'Good evening children. Now we have two changes in staffing this year, be pleased to welcome back Professor Grubbly-Plank (..)' and than he clearly points at her to his right (every other teacher to his right is named).

[Gorilla94]

4 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

There actually aren’t many teachers left. All we have left is Professor Burbage (Muggle Studies), Professor Binns (History), and Professor Babbling (Ancient Runes),

I‘ll gladly take them :) Especially the history ghost teacher. Aren.'t there more unnamed ones? I'd like to fill the great hall with those, so Snape and so on can be in their classrooms. I'll probably use the dnd witch as well as the new build a minifigure witch as additional teachers. I was a bit dissapointed by vector in the great hall. the hat does not fit. 

 

[Accio Lego]

2 hours ago, Gorilla94 said:

Aren.'t there more unnamed ones? I'd like to fill the great hall with those, so Snape and so on can be in their classrooms.

In the earlier movies they threw a whole bunch of extras at the head table and in the teachers’ section of the Quidditch stands. That’s actually the main reason we have ‘canon’ designs for Sinestra and Vector is because lego picked a couple of more interesting looking female extras and assigned them the names of known but unseen professors in their Harry Potter video games. WB apparently had no problems with this, and now the appearance of the ascended Sinestra extra has been used in non-lego media as well. It’s hard to say if lego would ever bother producing a Professor fig without a name attached to it though. 

[Chocolate Frog]

Maybe they’ll use mini figures for the movie theme and mini dolls for the TV show and keep them running side by side.