ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[Agent Kallus]

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

[CloneCommando99]

8 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

I’d take it. But i’d really only be interested in Guy, Superman and Hawkgirl. However it would obviously be ideal for a DC CMF series 2 to happen instead.

A minifigure pack or Battlepack with: Superman, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner and Lex Luther would be the dream though.

Edited June 6, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[ARC2149Nova]

26 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

I mean, I'd take a Superman CMF series in general. Not jazzed about movie designs, I collect comic figs more, so a Superman CMF with comic versions of Lois, Jimmy, Metallo, Parasite, a few other rogues, Maggie Sawyer and the Kents, I'd be a very happy camper.

Throw Guy in there somewhere (like literally just throw him in a box ) and you have the perfect CMF!

27 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I’d take it. But i’d really only be interested in Guy, Superman and Hawkgirl. However it would obviously be ideal for a DC CMF series 2 to happen instead.

A minifigure pack or Battlepack with: Superman, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner and Lex Luther would be the dream though.

Swap Lex with literally anyone other than Zod and I'm sold (I know he's the villain in the movie, but he's basically the only Superman villain we have )

Spoiler

And because someone will have the irresistible urge to point it out, yes, I'm well aware of Darkseid, Brainiac, Zod, and Lobo.

 

[Agent Kallus]

31 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I’d take it. But i’d really only be interested in Guy, Superman and Hawkgirl. However it would obviously be ideal for a DC CMF series 2 to happen instead.

Not mister terrific 

31 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Also what would you actually say the primary “Legends event” was?

In an alternative time, Timothy Zahn is hired to work on the 2D Clone wars, he implores George to not call that Clive guy Commander Cody, but Commander Jaango. Of course rex is also different is this timeline, he's called Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaango. And I do not have the patience to type out the names they give the Bad Batch in this universe. (Clue start With J ends with ngo).

But what I was getting at is that star wars call it's new Continuity Canon when canon is a word that means ( well close enough in this context) continuity and theres already an existing continuity so it needlessly confusing ( which I was trying to point out in the marvel thread) .

I think they should've called Canon legends, called Legends Myths and made a new third one that's just books and call it Fables.

 

[ARC2149Nova]

38 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

But what I was getting at is that star wars call it's new Continuity Canon when canon is a word that means ( well close enough in this context) continuity and theres already an existing continuity so it needlessly confusing ( which I was trying to point out in the marvel thread) .

I think they should've called Canon legends, called Legends Myths and made a new third one that's just books and call it Fables.

 

I think instead of a corporate "Order 66" of established lore, Star Wars should've gotten it's own Flashpoint event.

 

I'm joking, of course.

I don't mind the Canon and Legends designations, they're simple enough. Legends, Myths, and Fables on the other is a bit confusing.

Besides Legends sounds cooler than Canon, quite fitting for the stories contained within. 

[CloneCommando99]

17 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I think instead of a corporate "Order 66" of established lore, Star Wars should've gotten it's own Flashpoint event.

“What I remember about the rise of the sequels was how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Disney Acquisition the Mickey Mouse Legion was discreetly transferred back to Lucasfilm HQ. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do.”

*3 hours later*

EU: “Master Mickey, there’s too many of them. What are we going to do?”

*decanoniser ignites*

Edited June 6, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[SoupOrFishOil]

7 hours ago, glucklegobatman said:

Here's it on the ice planet minifigure's chest piece

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7uZKvgo5pW/?igsh=MXFmZm5jajg5YnR6bA==

That looks great. Thanks!

The ice gun is simple yet effective too. I'll probably steal that. 

Edited June 6, 2024 by SoupOrFishOil

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

“What I remember about the rise of the sequels was how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Disney Acquisition the Mickey Mouse Legion was discreetly transferred back to Lucasfilm HQ. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do.”

*3 hours later*

EU: “Master Mickey, there’s too many of them. What are we going to do?”

*decanoniser ignites*

I feel like Mickey is the apprentice, KK is the master, always 2 there are, no more, no less

4 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

Expect that to sell worse than the DC Series, that'll stay at your local toy shop for years passed retirement

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I feel like Mickey is the apprentice, KK is the master, always 2 there are, no more, no less.

Right. You seem to be forgetting that KK has produced, and therefore been involved with, all of Disney Star Wars. Whilst quite a bit of it is bad/ mediocre there is still some good stuff she’s had a hand in. For example: Rebels, Rogue One, CWS7, the Mandalorian seasons 1-2, Bad Batch, Andor and Ahsoka. And don’t forget she worked on the first 3 Indiana Jones films. Which were perfect. The real perpetrators are the likes of JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson.

My point is that, whilst she has done some things that she should definitely be called out for (green-lighting TROS for one), you can’t just blame her for everything that’s gone wrong with Star Wars. As that’s forgetting that she has done a lot of good things with the brand. And besides, many of the poor decisions came from the Disney higher ups themselves.

Anyway I digress. Let’s get back to Aslume-posting.

Edited June 6, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[legoturtle]

6 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

Well... it is interesting question.

DC tries to reboot DC universe. They start with "most famous" read oldest hero. They WON'T include Batman at all. MAYBE... just maybe they will succeed. Probably 50/50 change. Superman could be interesting BUT he is OP. So... mmm... difficult situation.

 

...

We might see new DC CMF line-up a bit later. Let say 3-5 years time. And maybe 33 % on figures are related to Superman. BUT if movie is super popular, classic, they might change plans a bit. Superman figures, how many in LEGO? Batman figures, how many in LEGO? ... that is harsh reality. 

[Agent Kallus]

Where to watch Suicide Squad ISEKAI: Season 1 UK?

We aren’t aware of any way to watch Suicide Squad ISEKAI: Season 1 in the United Kingdom. If we’ve got that wrong, please contact us. 

Sigh this is why I like that Marvel and Star Wars have all thier shows on D+. Where DC shows end up in the UK end up is often very random and very late. I remember supporting campaigns for infinity train ( Not DC but still WB) and Young Justice S3 only for them to go unreleased in the UK for years. ( And I still haven't finished either season yet, I'm doing a rewatch of 1 and 2 of YJ before I watch the rest of 3, and infinity train isn't the highest priority for me right now even though I still wanna see it soonish)

16 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Right. You seem to be forgetting that KK has produced, and therefore been involved with, all of Disney Star Wars. Whilst quite a bit of it is bad/ mediocre there is still some good stuff she’s had a hand in. For example: Rebels, Rogue One, CWS7, the Mandalorian seasons 1-2, Bad Batch, Andor and Ahsoka. And don’t forget she worked on the first 3 Indiana Jones films. Which were perfect. The real perpetrators are the likes of JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson.

I very much agree, I've enjoyed more of Disney SW than I haven't. The only major Blemish imo is the actual sequel trilogy and the only one of those I actively dislike is episode 9. And honestly Bob Iger is more of a culprit for that in some ways as it was his executive decision for them to release a movie every year which led to the terribly rushed trilogy that I have mixed feelings on, like the first 2 movie are decent but they went in a pretty boring direction from the get go.

9 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

DC tries to reboot DC universe. They start with "most famous" read oldest hero. They WON'T include Batman at all. MAYBE... just maybe they will succeed. Probably 50/50 change. 

I do actually think that in terms of Fame Batman and Superman are about in particular, but Batman's supporting cast, enemies, city and storylines are generally more famous than Supes.

Superman needs attention more than batman as Batman's last film was a banger and highest praise I can give MoS is mixed bag.

And though they won't include batman in the first movie there are big plans in place for him, plans that very much excite me.

Edited June 6, 2024 by Agent Kallus

[legoturtle]

Batman

 

1. Better Sales Than Superman
2. More Intercompany Crossovers
3. Excels in Animation
4. Better Genre Versatility
5. Ulilizes More Innovation and Gadgets
6. Deeper Character
7. The Batmobile, Batwing, BatPod...
8. Better Origin Story
9. Better Rogues Gallery
10. Doesn’t Need Superpowers

 

Edited June 6, 2024 by legoturtle

[CloneCommando99]

We really reigniting this argument again?
Superman:

• Existed before Batman
• Brings out the best in other heroes when he teams up with them
• Morally superior to Batman
• In many ways more relatable than Batman
• Fortress of solitude. Doesn’t need a vehicle.
• Origin story has more and better consequences to DC lore than Batman’s
• Also Excels in animation 
• Has a good Rogues gallery (but not as good as Batman’s)
• Could squash Batman like a bug if he really wanted to.

Fair play with the genre versatility though.

And now for a wildcard,

Green Lantern:

• Good friends with Batman
• Range of different versions to suit personality preferences 
• Range of Fun personalities 
• Can create literally anything with their imagination
• Fights crime in space 
• Arguably has the best lore out of all the DC heroes
• Excellent (but smaller) Rogues Gallery
• Retains their humanity even with the powers of the GL ring.

Edited June 6, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[legoturtle]

Commando, I think you have to start follow this guy:

 

[ARC2149Nova]

59 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

We really reigniting this argument again?

Green Lantern:

• Good friends with Batman
• Arguably has the best lore out of all the DC heroes
• Excellent (but smaller) Rogues Gallery

Debatable on point one, Bats seems to tolerate most of the Lanterns at best.

Straight facts on point 2, worthy of Star Wars/Trek, Halo, etc.

I know you're likely referring to the space-faring villains, but I love Hal's Earth rogues. How can you not enjoy the likes of Doctor Polaris, Goldface, Evil Star, Hector Hammond, and Sonar?

[RedHoodPug]

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Anyway I digress

Quite the understatement.

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Let’s get back to Aslume-posting.

No, we're good thanks.

4 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

We aren’t aware of any way to watch Suicide Squad ISEKAI: Season 1 in the United Kingdom. If we’ve got that wrong, please contact us. 

It hasn't even been released in Japan yet, give them half a chance.

4 hours ago, legoturtle said:

Batman

 

1. Better Sales Than Superman
2. More Intercompany Crossovers
3. Excels in Animation
4. Better Genre Versatility
5. Ulilizes More Innovation and Gadgets
6. Deeper Character
7. The Batmobile, Batwing, BatPod...
8. Better Origin Story
9. Better Rogues Gallery
10. Doesn’t Need Superpowers

 

Unfortunately your argument falls down at point 1 due to point 10. The best selling comic remains X-Men #1 from 1991.

Point 2 doesn't really make one better than the other.

3 is to miss some of the best moments from Justice League and Justice League Unlimited.

4 has to include the storylines where Batman had powers.

5 is redundant when Superman doesn't need gadgets.

6 is debatable. A man who is the ultimate immigrant and more powerful than anyone else on the planet does everything he can to be the best person he can be while elevating others, Vs an unfathomably rich man who can't let go of how he became orphaned.

7 again he doesn't need them.

8 Batman's origin is a recognised trope, Superman's was specifically devised to reflect the American Dream, and it's a matter of opinion.

9 name five Superman villains that can't beat Batman.

10 Superman doesn't need gadgets or a ridiculous bank balance.

Anyone can claim anything if you twist it the right way.

[Mandalorianknight]

12 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

I'd take it over nothing but much rather have a comic CMF.

12 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

In an alternative time, Timothy Zahn is hired to work on the 2D Clone wars, he implores George to not call that Clive guy Commander Cody, but Commander Jaango. Of course rex is also different is this timeline, he's called Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaango. And I do not have the patience to type out the names they give the Bad Batch in this universe. (Clue start With J ends with ngo).

I know this is a joke, but I'm coming to the defense of the goat. Luuke is just a quick written shorthand that flows better in writing than constantly going "the clone of Luke" or "Luke's clone". All indications are that was only used for single clones, and the others were named- In fact, I remember there being clones in the follow up duology and while it's been awhile since I read it I'm pretty confident they had names, and that they weren't things like Coooooooovell.

5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Morally superior to Batman

I speak about this more later but I think it's not brought up enough. Superman doesn't have a no kill rule because he's moral enough to only kill when it's the only possible way he can find. Batman has the rule because he's afraid once he starts, he won't stop.

4 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Debatable on point one, Bats seems to tolerate most of the Lanterns at best.

My favorite part of the DCAMU is Nathan Fillion's Hal and the fact that batman just absolutely cannot F***ing stand the guy. 

1 hour ago, RedHoodPug said:

6 is debatable. A man who is the ultimate immigrant and more powerful than anyone else on the planet does everything he can to be the best person he can be while elevating others, Vs an unfathomably rich man who can't let go of how he became orphaned

I totally agree with most of the points, but I have to disagree about this one (and it's why I think superman's so cool). Aside from the surface level of "a human- even a super rich one- is more relatable than an immensely powerful alien", the general character of batman is more relatable in my opinion. Everyone's dealt with loss, everyone feels anger. Batman says himself that deep down he doesn't think he's a good man (though that's debatable). He has his no-kill code because he's worried he wouldn't be able to stop himself if he started. Superman doesn't have a no-kill rule, because he's confident he can reserve final judgement for when it's absolutely neccesary. Superman doesn't deal with moral struggles in the same way batman does- and I don't think he should. I don't think we should see superman descend down the dark paths, I don't think we need to see him beating people to a pulp for information or shutting himself off from his loved ones. He's not meant to be someone we relate to as someone we are, but as the best of what we can be. He's like Captain America or Optimus Prime (coincidentally all red and blue leaders), he's less of a relatable flawed man and more of an ideal to strive towards.

[ARC2149Nova]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

My favorite part of the DCAMU is Nathan Fillion's Hal and the fact that batman just absolutely cannot F***ing stand the guy. 

I totally agree with most of the points, but I have to disagree about this one (and it's why I think superman's so cool). Aside from the surface level of "a human- even a super rich one- is more relatable than an immensely powerful alien", the general character of batman is more relatable in my opinion. Everyone's dealt with loss, everyone feels anger. Batman says himself that deep down he doesn't think he's a good man (though that's debatable). He has his no-kill code because he's worried he wouldn't be able to stop himself if he started. Superman doesn't have a no-kill rule, because he's confident he can reserve final judgement for when it's absolutely neccesary. Superman doesn't deal with moral struggles in the same way batman does- and I don't think he should. I don't think we should see superman descend down the dark paths, I don't think we need to see him beating people to a pulp for information or shutting himself off from his loved ones. He's not meant to be someone we relate to as someone we are, but as the best of what we can be. He's like Captain America or Optimus Prime (coincidentally all red and blue leaders), he's less of a relatable flawed man and more of an ideal to strive towards.

Nathan is Hal and I cannot get over how you fumble a casting that badly. Not your point but I had to. 

Bats: Lantern.

Hal Fillion: I say Ro-day-o

Bats: Report!

I love those movies.

Debating who's more relatable between Supes and Bats is the miss the whole point of either character. Superman is super, yes, but he still gets up, goes to work, has a deep and often complicated relationship, and at the end of the day, he's a humble farmboy from Kansas. Under all the superpowers, Kal-El of Krypton is just Clark Kent from Smallville.

Batman on the other hand, is super rich, has a butler, a mansion, and all the cool toys one could dream of, but under all that money and pseudo-charm, he's a traumatized and lonely man, who would rather comfort the forgotten of Gotham than sit in a boardroom. Pretends to push everyone away, yet secretly enjoys their company because he has no genuine social skills.

Super or not, born here or not, all these characters are human deep down. Which is I absolutely love Superman and Batman. Especially when the writers get it right.

I've been on a Superman journey recently, so don't mind me. 

I agree with you, btw, just wanted to say that Superman is also relatable in his own way.

Also I read Batman: Hush this weekend, and the whole "deep down, he's a good person, and deep down, I'm not" is sad because it really shows you how depressed Batman is as a character.

Also jarring because I grew up watching Adam West. 

[legoturtle]

Is Superman boring character?

 

 

 

...

If you think movies. Batman has many different version from comedy to horror, action, thriller, drama, film noir, and so on... even LEGO version. BUT if you think of Superman movies - well somehow just sad atmosphere.

I am started to think that MAYBE just maybe ... Superman is really just a boring character? What 2025 has to do make him INTERESTING? For DC fans like me who do not know character so well?

[legoturtle]

Spoiler

 

Not bad?

[CloneCommando99]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I speak about this more later but I think it's not brought up enough. Superman doesn't have a no kill rule because he's moral enough to only kill when it's the only possible way he can find. Batman has the rule because he's afraid once he starts, he won't stop.

I was more talking about Batman’s child endangerment tendencies (*Jason Todd, Damian Wayne and Tim Drake have entered the chat.*) Superman’s fine because all his sidekicks are indestructible. 
 

@legoturtle Superman 2025 is going to introduce general Audiences to the wider DC universe and more heroes. More so than any previous Superman movie has done. So there’s that.

Edited June 7, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[THELEGOBATMAN]

4 hours ago, legoturtle said:

If you think movies. Batman has many different version from comedy to horror, action, thriller, drama, film noir, and so on... even LEGO version. BUT if you think of Superman movies - well somehow just sad atmosphere.

Superman movies... sad atmosphere? What the hell are you talking about Turtle? 

[Agent Kallus]

15 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Superman needs attention more than Batman

 

4 hours ago, legoturtle said:

 

started to think that MAYBE just maybe ... Superman is really just a boring character? 

See this is why I think he needs more attention ( i.e. the movie) than Batman. Batman is already well respected as a character in a way that superman isn't. This frequent idea of him being boring could be resolved if the movie is good enough and proves to the general audience how compelling a character he can be. I do personally still prefer Batman to Supes though, not that it should be a contest, really.

10 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

It hasn't even been released in Japan yet, give them half a chance.

That is not my point, your Honour. If I may, the the point is that we don't know where or or when (or even if ) it will materialise in the UK ( and  it's not just the UK, WB has proven recently that it is not good at making it's streaming shows have regular and consistent international availability). Ladies and gentlemen of the jury If they want so much half a chance, I will gladly oblige... Should they do so much as earn it!! Behaviour like this will only drive people to piracy! ( Do not ask me how I watch the Mandalorian Season 1) Disney might receive a fair amount of chagrin but they are simply doing better than WB at this, D+ is available in 150 or so countries, HBO MAX is only in 61. Maybe DC could be better hands as this far from WB's only sin, assembled peers I ask you to think back to the Batgirl movie fiasco! Yes it was said to a bad movie but I'd have very much liked to have made up my own mind! Besides I do not think WB are really proving themselves to be great judges of quality, are they? I rest my case. ( Suitcases need naps too #fairerlabourlawsfor cases #suitcasenaptime2024.)

[BrickBob Studpants]

22 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

How would people feel if they had a Superman Legacy CMF out next year?

Not a fan of the idea. CMF series should feature a wide range of characters, not just the main cast of a single upcoming movie (the LEGO movies being obvious exceptions). That‘s what the sets are for!

37 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Superman movies... sad atmosphere? What the hell are you talking about Turtle? 

I can‘t believe I agree with Turtleman here, but Snyderverse Supes is definitely sad. On multiple levels.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

45 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I can‘t believe I agree with Turtleman here, but Snyderverse Supes is definitely sad. On multiple levels.

That's a Zack Snyder movie, of course it has a sad atmosphere.

I was talking about Superman movies that are actually good, or at the very least try to act like a Superman movie.