ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[ARC2149Nova]

13 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Just saying- didn't start with Disney.

How Disney uses hyperspace does jettison waste over how GL established it, though. But I'd argue that makes it more sci-fi, not less.

[BrickBob Studpants]

As I've said before, I'm purely talking about tropes, which is what genres are generally defined by. Of course SW is sci-fi in the sense that it has aliens, spaceships, futuristic tech and all that, but what I'm getting at is that it rarely deals with sci-fi tropes and themes. For starters, it's set in the past, not the future, and in a different galaxy to begin with, while 99% of (hard) sci-fi stories deal with the future of our planet. The tech is rarely focussed on, it mostly just exists to help the story move along (hyperdrives, lightsabers etc.) and the implications of said tech usually don't matter. Even the ethics of cloning, which is a pretty central theme in a lot of sci-fi stories, was brushed over in AotC and only got explored a bit in more recent shows (TCW and especially TBB). The danger of technology, another classic sci-fi theme, is also not really present despite potentially dangerous technology being a thing in that universe. Parallel universes (luckily) also aren't a thing in SW, and even time travel was done in a mystical way.

I would call it fantasy with sci-fi set dressing  Or put differently, story-wise, it has more in common with LOTR than with Star Trek.

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

As I've said before, I'm purely talking about tropes, which is what genres are generally defined by. Of course SW is sci-fi in the sense that it has aliens, spaceships, futuristic tech and all that, but what I'm getting at is that it rarely deals with sci-fi tropes and themes. For starters, it's set in the past, not the future, and in a different galaxy to begin with, while 99% of (hard) sci-fi stories deal with the future of our planet. The tech is rarely focussed on, it mostly just exists to help the story move along (hyperdrives, lightsabers etc.) and the implications of said tech usually don't matter. Even the ethics of cloning, which is a pretty central theme in a lot of sci-fi stories, was brushed over in AotC and only got explored a bit in more recent shows (TCW and especially TBB). The danger of technology, another classic sci-fi theme, is also not really present despite potentially dangerous technology being a thing in that universe. Parallel universes (luckily) also aren't a thing in SW, and even time travel was done in a mystical way.

I would call it fantasy with sci-fi set dressing  Or put differently, story-wise, it has more in common with LOTR than with Star Trek.

That is a sensible argument. I've seen Star Wars classified as Science Fantasy, which is probably the most accurate description.

Also, Star Wars' being set in the past is debatable. Some theorize that it's a long time ago from someone else's perspective (say R2-D2) and still in the far future, but that's just nerd talk.

For all intents and purposes, it reads like a fairy tale.

[legoturtle]

In near future . . .

• DC will take number 1 spot
• We will get LEGO sets from multiple movies and tv shows
• That stupid Laser Eye is somehow COOL
• We WILL BUILD Superman (2025) figure like there is no tomorrow
• We do it carefully with great respect
• We do it NOW my friends
• BECAUSE it is our destiny

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2024 by legoturtle

[wesker]

13 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Unfortunately, I don‘t see that happening. As hopeful as I am for a wave of sets, I‘d consider releasing a D2C set based on an untested new cinematic universe a very risky move, despite the design likely being comic-accurate enough to work as a generic Daily Planet

D2C sets based on then-upcoming movies or shows are very rare anyway. The Sanctum Sanctorum is a recent example, but that one was not solely based on MoM and had been featured in multiple movies beforehand. Another example, the Dune ornithopter, was based on the first movie (and technically wasn‘t even a D2C set).

Unless I’m overlooking something, the only current exception is the upcoming X-Mansion

There was also the Little Mermaid D2C that was based on the recent live action movie instead of the original cartoon.

I don't think the film being set in a different cinematic universe from before would really play much of a factor in their eyes. It ultimately comes down to how confident Lego are in Superman as a character and whether they feel he's marketable enough to carry such a set.

Although the Sanctum Sanctorum incorporated elements of Infinity War into the set it was still primarily released to capitalize on the hype for Multiverse of Madness first and foremost while Doctor Strange was at the center of the public eye. Its the same reason why we're getting the X-Mansion this year with both X-Men 97 and Deadpool & Wolverine bringing the X-Men brand back into relevancy. As it stands Superman and Fantastic Four are set to be the two main headliners for the superhero genre in 2025. If either of them were to get a D2C set it makes the most sense to do it while public interest for both properties is it at its absolute peak.

[timemail]

14 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Live Action Movies: Superman, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, The Batman Part 2, Joker 2, The Brave and The Bold, Swamp Thing, Teen Titans and The Authority.

Live Action TV shows: Lanterns, Peacemaker season 2, Booster Gold, Waller and an unnamed Arkham Series.

Animated Movies: Jurassic League.

Animated TV shows: Caped Crusader, Beast Boy, Kiteman, another season of Harley Quinn and Creature Commandos. (Young Justice season 5 hasn’t been confirmed yet.)

 

I believe that’s about it. Please do correct me if I missed anything.

The Sandman Season 2.

I don't think this has really been mentioned here before. My favourite comics after Watchmen.

Would love some comic mini-figures of The Sandman (CMF would be nice). From the Endless - Dream with Matthew, Death, Destruction and Barnabas, Despair (some sort of new moulded big-fig). Also Corinthian, Pumpkinhead, Lucifer, Mazikeen, John Constantine, Doctor Destiny, Loki, Brute and Glob.

[BrickBob Studpants]

I keep forgetting Watchmen and Sandman are technically set in the DC universe. Hard to fathom any of these characters interacting with regular DC heroes

29 minutes ago, timemail said:

Would love some comic mini-figures of The Sandman (CMF would be nice).

Not gonna happen in any reality, considering some of the effed up stuff that happens in that story 

[timemail]

29 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I keep forgetting Watchmen and Sandman are technically set in the DC universe. Hard to fathom any of these characters interacting with regular DC heroes

Not gonna happen in any reality, considering some of the effed up stuff that happens in that story 

Yeah unfortunately I agree. I would never expect Lego to do a comic version.

The best we could expect would be sets based on the Netflix show. The cereal convention would have good cross appeal for City collectors. A nice new hotel and some new minifigures.

They could go for a Friends style set of Richard Madoc's house a two storey dollhouse style with a bedroom for Calliope and Richard at his computer upstairs, Dream downstairs with a kitchen and loungeroom. Shame it will be mini-dolls and pastel colours though.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, timemail said:

Yeah unfortunately I agree. I would never expect Lego to do a comic version.

The best we could expect would be sets based on the Netflix show.

It's TV-MA. Not gonna happen.

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's TV-MA. Not gonna happen.

I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me

[timemail]

11 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's TV-MA. Not gonna happen.

In a thread like this I am amazed people are still taking things seriously.

If you really want to go by a random countries rating system then we should go by Australia. The Sandman is rated the same as Stranger Things. So we know that Lego is prepared to make sets that are MA15+ in Australia.

The best we can expect is regional exclusives in Australia for the Netflix series.

[ARC2149Nova]

I would love to see some Caped Crusader sets. It's a nice excuse for Lego to reuse to 1939 cowl, plus a host of fedoras and suit prints. Early-to-mid-1900s car designs are a banger as well. Onomatopoeia, Harley Quinn, Clayface, Firefly, Two-Face, Penguin, and more!

C'mon Lego, I need that Clayface. I'm willing to do unspeakable things for that classic Clayface. 

[TheBatstan]

On 6/28/2024 at 2:53 AM, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's honestly really cool that Batman's suit from Caped Crusader is basically the first appearance suit with black gloves.

You could take the DC CMF 1939 Batman, change his lavender hands to black ones, and you have the Caped Crusader Batman.

I'd still love to get some sets for it tho — the villains look so unique. Getting these versions of Harley Quinn, Catwoman and Clayface would be fantastic. Could also be an opportunity to get our first Onomatopoeia.

I'd easily buy the obligatory Batmobile set that Lego would make if they had to make at least one set for the show. It's basically the BTAS Batmobile but if it was made in the 40s, with the rear fins reminding me of The Batman 2022 design.

[Agent Kallus]

On 6/28/2024 at 8:14 AM, CloneCommando99 said:

Wait seriously?! Please do post that on the DC Thread. Or the DC wish lists thread. I would love to see it.

Yeah, will do! But don't get yours hopes up too high, it's more a collection of little bits of OA than one big grand thing (it's kinda similar to assault on Hoth), as that gave a better impression of a variety of things spread over a large area without being gigantic.

I'll post it and the rest of wave hopefully somepoint soonish. I just need to finish up a black manta Sub and a few other things before I'm ready to share.

On 6/29/2024 at 2:34 AM, legoturtle said:

• We WILL BUILD Superman (2025) figure like there is no tomorrow
• We do it carefully with great respect

You've made some down right questionable statements but this I can't help but agree with .

8 hours ago, timemail said:

In a thread like this I am amazed people are still taking things seriously.

If you really want to go by a random countries rating system then we should go by Australia. The Sandman is rated the same as Stranger Things. So we know that Lego is prepared to make sets that are MA15+ in Australia.

The best we can expect is regional exclusives in Australia for the Netflix series.

It is an 18(or equivalent) most places, Australia seems to be the lowest it is rated anywhere.

I know TV- MA is the American rating system's Adult TV rating but whenever I see it written down I just thing of the hillbilly from the Simpsons telling his mother something is a television.

Like 

Mother: a demon has possessed that new fangled picture frame!

Cletus: it's TV-MA

Or

Mother: What's them cityfolk's name for this weirdo footstool?

Cletu: it's TV-MA

Or 

Mother: I can't believe superman is dead!

Clet: that was just TV-MA

Or

Mother: How'd you know that princes Diana is dead, have you been gossiping Cletus?

Cle: I gone and saw it been talked about on the TV-MA

I could go on til Cletus only has one letter left in his name but that'd just be beating a dead Venom horse. Also I don't think gossiping sounded right in the hillbilly voice in my head but I do not know enough about hillbilly stereotypes to pick a more relevant slang term.l

Edited June 30, 2024 by Agent Kallus

[Mandalorianknight]

14 hours ago, TheBatstan said:

I'd easily buy the obligatory Batmobile set that Lego would make if they had to make at least one set for the show. It's basically the BTAS Batmobile but if it was made in the 40s, with the rear fins reminding me of The Batman 2022 design.

I would also 100% buy this in normal circumstances, given how good the Batmobile looks, but on the other hand, you know they'd make this $70 and it'd only come with Batman and Harley Quinn.

15 hours ago, timemail said:

In a thread like this I am amazed people are still taking things seriously.

If you really want to go by a random countries rating system then we should go by Australia. The Sandman is rated the same as Stranger Things. So we know that Lego is prepared to make sets that are MA15+ in Australia.

The best we can expect is regional exclusives in Australia for the Netflix series.

I think it's pretty clear lego seems to be going off the US rating system for what they will and won't make sets on. You sort of prove your own point by saying they'll make sets for things rated MA15+ in Australia... but TV-14 in America. There are a number of properties with higher age ratings in other countries that got sets because they were PG-13 or TV-14 in the US. The only time it's been broken in the US is when they released an Echo figure in a CMF and the show was changed to a TV-MA rating AFTER the product had been developed.

[Gorilla94]

On 6/29/2024 at 3:34 AM, legoturtle said:

 

Did that + custom cape with yellow symbol

[legoturtle]

An image please?

(I am just going to buy Brickheadz... at least 5 of them, maybe all)

[CloneCommando99]

Who would win in a fight?

Comics Batman or TLBM Batman?

 

Also, how much wood could the wood chuck chuck if the wood chuck could chuck wood?

Edited July 1, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[TheBatstan]

15 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I would also 100% buy this in normal circumstances, given how good the Batmobile looks, but on the other hand, you know they'd make this $70 and it'd only come with Batman and Harley Quinn.

In this case, I wouldn't mind if they threw in Harley considering she'll be wearing the (yellow) jester suit again in the show instead of the Rebirth look for the thousandth time. Plus, according to Bruce Timm, her character is actually going to be a serious villain again for the first time in years instead of an anti-hero/hero/DC's Deadpool that I feel like she's been for nearly a decade now. Throw in Catwoman in her purple dress suit from the Golden Age that's going to be her costume in the show and you've got a great set.

Edited July 1, 2024 by TheBatstan

[BatDeanj]

Apart from recently with BTAS and Marvel's CMF. Has Lego ever done anything with superheroes Tv shows? I know they did a loose set on beware the batman in 2014 but please correct me if I'm missing something. 

But I am really excited for the show! best batman show since 2004's The Batman IMO

Edited July 1, 2024 by BatDeanj

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, BatDeanj said:

Apart from recently with BTAS and Marvel's CMF. Has Lego ever done anything with superheroes Tv shows? I know they did a loose set on beware the batman in 2014 but please correct me if I'm missing something. 

Ultimate Spider-Man. 

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, BatDeanj said:

Apart from recently with BTAS and Marvel's CMF. Has Lego ever done anything with superheroes Tv shows? I know they did a loose set on beware the batman in 2014 but please correct me if I'm missing something. 

DC Superhero Girls (original one), Avengers Assemble, Comic Con exclusive minifigs based off Arrowverse, 2 What If Hulkbuster sets and  the X-Men’97 sets.

[timemail]

18 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think it's pretty clear lego seems to be going off the US rating system for what they will and won't make sets on. You sort of prove your own point by saying they'll make sets for things rated MA15+ in Australia... but TV-14 in America. There are a number of properties with higher age ratings in other countries that got sets because they were PG-13 or TV-14 in the US. The only time it's been broken in the US is when they released an Echo figure in a CMF and the show was changed to a TV-MA rating AFTER the product had been developed.

Don't get me wrong. I would love a comic The Sandman CMF but I wouldn't think for a minute that Lego would actually make them. I would have thought the suggested Netflix sets were enough of an indication that it was not a serious suggestion. The product is too niche, and even with the Netflix series I would not imagine it would have anywhere near the target market required by Lego. I don't think the rating really has anything to do with that as even if it wasn't TV-MA or TV-PA they wouldn't release sets for it.

Although I think the argument about US ratings is correlation not causation (at least I have never seen it anywhere that Lego have made this a rule). With a few exceptions blockbuster movies are designed/cut/edited to be PG13 for the ability to have that wider appeal and increased profitability. Generally those movies will have the most hype and most marketability in terms of tied in merchandising as they are aimed at where they can get the most profitability by not restricting the audience. It only makes sense that the sets Lego are making are tied to movies that are PG13 and not above.

The only movie I can think of that I would think would have sufficient appeal for Lego sets, while rated above PG13 is Deadpool. I don't think Lego would do that due to its content (and by correlation its US rating), but then I wouldn't have thought that Stranger Things would ever be suitable for a Lego set either.

Ultimately I agree that Lego would not likely make sets for anything above PG13, simply because the content would be too mature for what Lego seem to want to do. That said until Lego release a set for a movie above PG13, or outright say they won't make sets for movies about PG13 I would suggest we are all just speculating. I know I am.

1 hour ago, BatDeanj said:

Apart from recently with BTAS and Marvel's CMF. Has Lego ever done anything with superheroes Tv shows? I know they did a loose set on beware the batman in 2014 but please correct me if I'm missing something.

Spidey and His Amazing Friends.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Is it just me or is the Brickheadz 8 in 1 set nowhere to be seen?  Maybe it got delayed until August 1st?

[Agent Kallus]

5 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Is it just me or is the Brickheadz 8 in 1 set nowhere to be seen?  Maybe it got delayed until August 1st?

Yeah, not just you. It's listed as 'This has not yet been released.' on Brickset, so I'd guess it will be august then? 

Edited July 1, 2024 by Agent Kallus