ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[legoturtle]

Well, how can I say that The Penguin is FEMALE???

WTF!?

[icm]

Gender-swapping comic book roles is nothing new. It's not a WTF creative choice unless you're the type that thinks Superman being able to fly is also WTF.

Meaning, it's just you, Turtle. Move on.

[PGBQW]

59 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

WOKE

This is terrible news :/ ... I am not going to watch that TV show. Why they have to spoil everything. Next time (season 2) Batman is probably black lesbian woman. AND what is the point of all that???

You know, we put up with your nonsense and your stupid hijinks because they're harmless most of the time (albeit repetitive).

That being said, I'd appreciate you would just shut the megabluck up if all you have to say is trash like this. Not only you're embarrasing yourself but the rest of users too.

[ARC2149Nova]

I'm not a fan of FemPenguin either, but it is a new continuity, new rules. I also hate that the wrong face is scarred on Two-Face, but it's like, idk, ExFed and Olivia Octavius from ITSV.

I really wish DC would stop trying to reinvent the wheel and instead stick to the classics. That may sound lame to some, but if everything is a new take, there are no real adaptations. That said, still looking forward to trying out CC, not a fan of race/sex changes over new or lore accurate characters in those roles, but it won't ruin the show for me. Batman looks great, Catwoman looks great (), the atmosphere is top notch, what's not to like? Besides, maybe Ozzy's still out there, and the Penguin thing is genetic. 

As long as Bruce and Barbara don't Bruce Timm, we should be all set.

As an aside, the Creature Commandos trailer screams GOTG and Suicide Squad to me. Not looking forward to it. If anything, it proves James Gunn is just another Snyder, a "my interpretations over comic accuracy". I can live without that. And dear Rau are they overusing The Wall... Let's take a WWII Team and make them the new Task Force X...give me a break.

But at least Henry Cavill isn't returning as Brainiac... 

[BrickBob Studpants]

Come on, they do this all the time in all sorts of superhero media, be it comics, TV shows, and movies. Pretty sure this isn‘t even the first time there was a female version of the Penguin  

[ARC2149Nova]

19 minutes ago, icm said:

Gender-swapping comic book roles is nothing new.

I mean, I can't think of any other examples. This isn't Mass Effect. We have gender-opposite counterparts, not sure if any characters have been swapped directly though.

Aside from Jeri Hogarth, but wrong company (and she's awesome!)

[icm]

Fine. "Gender-opposite counterparts," not "gender-swapped." IMO, that's a distinction without a difference.

[ARC2149Nova]

29 minutes ago, legoturtle said:

Well, how can I say that The Penguin is FEMALE???

Well, you see, in the cloning process we prevented the development of the Y chromosome. You know, so that all of our attractions are female. It's a safety feature.

West African Frogs? What are those?

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 minute ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Well, you see, in the cloning process we prevented the development of the Y chromosome. You know, so that all of our attractions are female. It's a safety feature.

West African Frogs? What are those?

Life finds a way

Seriously though, this is a non-issue if I ever saw one.

[ARC2149Nova]

1 minute ago, icm said:

Fine. "Gender-opposite counterparts," not "gender-swapped." IMO, that's a distinction without a difference.

Supergirl (Kara Zor-El) and Superwoman (Kala-El, I guess), are two different ideas.

Though there is a gender-flipped earth in DC (11, I think?), so there is still precedent. That would actually be fun to see.

Just now, BrickBob Studpants said:

Life finds a way

Seriously though, this is a non-issue if I ever saw one.

Agreed.

[icm]

Just now, ARC2149Nova said:

Supergirl (Kara Zor-El) and Superwoman (Kala-El, I guess), are two different ideas.

Fair enough.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Even TLBM did that with police chief O’Hara  

[Robert8]

On one hand, I do understand that every iteration of Batman cant be just a copy/paste from the last one. They have to change stuff to keep it fresh. But look at this:

https://www.facebook.com/PrimeVideo/photos/introducing-oswalda-cobblepotbut-you-can-call-her-the-penguin-batman-caped-crusa/1042625093901724/

They just added lipstick to the character model and, on top of it, just added an A to the name so now she is Oswalda O_______________O And someone got paid for that 

 

I'm aware that not every female villain has to be a femme fatale kind of character (Poison Ivy, Catwoman and Thalia already have that spot well covered). But why dont they create a new character then? Look at what happened with Harley Quinn. She started as a one-off sidekick and now is one of the most popular DC characters

This just feels so lazy  

 

Cant wait for a female Joker called Jokerella or something

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by Robert8

[ARC2149Nova]

49 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Even TLBM did that with police chief O’Hara  

I legit forgot about that.  (Side note: if we ever get a TLBM2, I want Punch and Judy from The Batman '04)

4 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

They just added lipstick to the character model and, on top of it, just added an A to the name so now she is Oswalda O_______________O And someone got paid for that 

I'm aware that not every female villain has to be a femme fatale kind of character (Poison Ivy, Catwoman and Thalia already have that spot well covered). But why dont they create a new character then? Look at what happened with Harley Quinn. She started as a one-off sidekick and now is one of the most popular DC characters

This just feels so lazy  

I agree, it is lazy. I don't think disliking the change is wrong, everyone's got their own opinions. On the other hand, one debatably good/bad decision won't break an entire series.

If they wanted a female crime boss, that's a little heavy and can give Bats a solid run for his money: Carla Viti or, I don't know, Sofia Falcone!?

 

[Swordy]

I think y’all are making a bigger deal out of this than Turtle ever did. Yes, what he said wasn’t wise to say, but let one or two people correct him and move on. To continue telling Turtle how “wrong” or how “hateful” he is for having an opinion, however uninformed it might be, really drags the whole discussion down. I’d like to get back to LEGO Omniverse lore, if possible.

23 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

 

I'm aware that not every female villain has to be a femme fatale kind of character (Poison Ivy, Catwoman and Thalia already have that spot well covered). But why dont they create a new character then? Look at what happened with Harley Quinn. She started as a one-off sidekick and now is one of the most popular DC characters

This just feels so lazy  

 

And that is the definition of woke. You’re welcome, fellow crusaders.

(Back being to off-topic, but is there a DC equivalent of “true believers”?)

Edited July 29, 2024 by Swordy

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I really wish DC would stop trying to reinvent the wheel and instead stick to the classics. That may sound lame to some, but if everything is a new take, there are no real adaptations. That said, still looking forward to trying out CC, not a fan of race/sex changes over new or lore accurate characters in those roles, but it won't ruin the show for me. Batman looks great, Catwoman looks great (), the atmosphere is top notch, what's not to like? Besides, maybe Ozzy's still out there, and the Penguin thing is genetic. 

As an aside, the Creature Commandos trailer screams GOTG and Suicide Squad to me. Not looking forward to it. If anything, it proves James Gunn is just another Snyder, a "my interpretations over comic accuracy". I can live without that. And dear Rau are they overusing The Wall... Let's take a WWII Team and make them the new Task Force X...give me a break.

Completely agree with both.

These changes are unnecessary and stink of a lack of imagination. It's trying to hit quotas or be interesting/"subvert expectations" without, you know, actually doing something new. You can't use an existing female crime boss- say, one who's more around the size and physical combat capabilities of this penguin than the latter, and is criminally underused- for the former, or do something more character related (penguin redemption arc, catwoman crimeboss arc) for the latter?

Gunn's a one-trick pony. Sometimes that trick works, but when it's all you do, people'll figure you out eventually. I'm calling it now- the corporate heroes in superman 2025 are going to be retreads of his GOTG/SS/assumably CC tropes, and superman himself, while hopefully in line with the "Truth, justice, and the american way" personality, will likely have issues with his fathers, because that's another Gunn trope.

30 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

On one hand, I do understand that every iteration of Batman cant be just a copy/paste from the last one. They have to change stuff to keep it fresh. But look at this:

They just added lipstick to the character model and, on top of it, just added an A to the name so now she is Oswalda O_______________O And someone got paid for that 

I'm aware that not every female villain has to be a femme fatale kind of character (Poison Ivy, Catwoman and Thalia already have that spot well covered). But why dont they create a new character then? Look at what happened with Harley Quinn. She started as a one-off sidekick and now is one of the most popular DC characters

This just feels so lazy  

I hadn't seen that image before and was just going off of "penguin is woman" which is lazy but not a big deal... that's pretty rough. It looks like a roided-out Penguin is upset that batman's put lipstick on him while he was sleeping. (Which is another thing- it might just be the angle, but she looks somewhat large and brutish here- why? That doesn't make sense regardless of whether it's Oswald or "Oswalda".)

9 minutes ago, Swordy said:

I think y’all are making a bigger deal out of this than Turtle ever did. Yes, what he said wasn’t wise to say, but let one or two people correct him and move on. To continue telling Turtle how “wrong” or how “hateful” he is for having an opinion, however uninformed it might be, really drags the whole discussion down. I’d like to get back to LEGO Omniverse lore, if possible.

Yeah I agree- it wasn't great but it was clearly just referencing how these companies tend to make existing characters more diverse (I hesitate to imply it's a reference to Batwoman S2 and what happened with the recast and plot there, because I don't think Turtle knows what the CW is and don't really want to listen to him talk about the flash for a billion posts, but it was my first thought when I saw it)

Plus like it's turtle- 50% of his posts are ironic and even when he is being serious there's clearly a constant translation/phrasing error somewhere.

 

Actually, I've changed my mind. Turtle, what are your thoughts on the flash? He can run fast. Humans can run fast (to an extent). Bees, to my knowledge, cannot run. Does this make flash more akin to batman, who is also often far stronger than a normal human, or would he be more like Superman (who flies) (like a bee)?

Edited July 29, 2024 by Mandalorianknight

[Clone OPatra]

Turtle can't come to the phone right now.

[Swordy]

3 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Turtle can't come to the phone right now.

Gasp! Turtle was the one who altered us to the threat of Brickheadz Joker. So does Clone O’Patra works for Brickheadz Joker? Does this mean all of the Eurobricks moderators work for him too? This conspiracy goes deeper than I first thought….

Edited July 30, 2024 by Swordy

[Lego Nostalgia]

I stand with legoturtle, only a true follower would stand by him no matter what he says, for if we betray him, how are we any different to the monsters in the Aslume.

This thread today looks like a Twitter one and it's both funny and sad lol

Back to the conspiracies of Lego City and it's corrupt elected officials.

3 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Wow, not sure a LEGO forum is the best place to be airing your discriminatory opinions.  Triple threat with the racism, sexism, and homophobia.

He's not guilty of any of what you said, he's just stating what usually happens nowadays with these big studios pushing something other than story, there's a pattern going on and it's hard not to ignore it and he also has the right to his opinion so whatever you believe, keep to yourself and let's not insult any side and keep it Lego Aslume Posting

MAYBE DR INFERNO MADE THE PENGUIN FEMALE TO MESS WITH THE FANS ON PURPOSE ?????

Also who owns the best pizzeria in Gotham ? Luigi ! He's been serving Lego People Flesh and Blood into pizzas and he gets all the ingredients from Professor Pyg, my god this is much deeper than I thought, Pyg is chopping up Lego City Citizens into round yellow pizzas, the sick evil man.

Luigi is the owner of the restaurant and the distributor of the product, Pyg simply supplies the shipments and is the one who gets his hands dirty by killing plastic people and grinding them into pizza

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, Clone OPatra said:

Turtle can't come to the phone right now.

"Commander O'Patra...The time has come..."

Anyway...in all the excitement, we seem to have forgotten about our last hope, the Last Son of Brickton, The Man of ABS, who will save us all from the evil Mayor Cobb.

The Starman...SUPERMAN!!! I'm actually excited for this more and more by the week. I don't need another Superman, or another Lex, to be honest, but if it opens the door for more Superman characters, I'm all for it.

(New conspiracy drop: What if the Power Miners work for Lex Luthor, gathering various colors of Kryptonite?)

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Turtle, what are your thoughts on the flash?

Turtles and Flashes are natural enemies.

And apparently so are them and Penguins. 

[strangely]

BTAS is pretty much the definitive version of most Batman characters, so I think it's wise that this new show is going for twisted/different versions of these characters.

While I agree that it seems lazy at face value, I also don't want to judge it until I see the show. Minnie Driver is an interesting casting choice, I feel like there's definitely potential for this version of the Penguin, but only time will tell.

Personally I would love to get these variations in Lego form someday (preferably in a set geared more towards adults).

[ARC2149Nova]

1 minute ago, strangely said:

BTAS is pretty much the definitive version of most Batman characters

For better or worse. I'd like to see a new, purely evil Freeze, for example. We haven't had that since The Batman, maybe TBATB.

This sucks for me personally because I was looking forward to a somewhat post-crisis accurate, early years Batman. At this point sticking to the source material would be a fresh new idea. CC's still the best thing on the slate so far, though.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Also who owns the best pizzeria in Gotham ? Luigi ! He's been serving Lego People Flesh and Blood into pizzas and he gets all the ingredients from Professor Pyg,

Wait didn't someone bring up pizza earlier anyway? We've gone full circle. 

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

(New conspiracy drop: What if the Power Miners work for Lex Luthor, gathering various colors of Kryptonite?)

Turtles and Flashes are natural enemies

They're for brickheadz joker, searching for the elusive Gold Kryptonite so superman no longer can fly like a bee or use laser eyes (very overpowered)

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

"Commander O'Patra...The time has come..."

Anyway...in all the excitement, we seem to have forgotten about our last hope, the Last Son of Brickton, The Man of ABS, who will save us all from the evil Mayor Cobb.

The Starman...SUPERMAN!!! I'm actually excited for this more and more by the week. I don't need another Superman, or another Lex, to be honest, but if it opens the door for more Superman characters, I'm all for it.

Execute order "taking a break"

But seriously, movie aside, the fact that we are getting a superman set- even a mech- is big news. Our first non-batman DC set in almost 5 years by the time it releases. That's CRAZY. The more I think about it, despite not needing another Supes, I'll probably pick it up. I can spare $15 if it helps lego think people will buy sets for DC heroes beyond batman.

[TheBatstan]

11 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Ok. Female Penguin is just 

All my hopes for Cape Crusader are jsut fading

The show's been getting great to rave reviews in the past few days as being the spiritual successor to BTAS, I don't know if one gender swap will suddenly destroy the entire thing.

5 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

Turtle can't come to the phone right now.

I was wondering how long it would take before this happened, I'm still amazed he got this far.

[CloneCommando99]

6 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

If they wanted a female crime boss, that's a little heavy and can give Bats a solid run for his money: Carla Viti or, I don't know, Sofia Falcone!?

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

These changes are unnecessary and stink of a lack of imagination. It's trying to hit quotas or be interesting/"subvert expectations" without, you know, actually doing something new. You can't use an existing female crime boss- say, one who's more around the size and physical combat capabilities of this penguin than the latter, and is criminally underused- for the former, or do something more character related (penguin redemption arc, catwoman crimeboss arc) for the latter.

 

Exactly. I don’t mind race and gender swapping at all if it’s done well. But it feels completely unnecessary at times.

For example: the new Mrs Freeze in SSKTLJ is annoying because Killer Frost literally exists.

Damn! Turtle started a whole culture war with 1 post. Just shows how he’s been manipulating us with every move he makes. Is Turtle Brickheadz Joker’s account so that he can play mind-games with his investigators.

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Wait didn't someone bring up pizza earlier anyway? We've gone full circle. 

They're for brickheadz joker, searching for the elusive Gold Kryptonite so superman no longer can fly like a bee or use laser eyes (very overpowered)

Luigi must have role in this. It makes too little sense for him not to.

No. No. No. Sure you’ll be able to depower superman with Gold Kryptonite. But he’ll still come for you in his mech. I think they’re looking for Pink Kryptonite. That way, not only is Superman distracted but so are the rest of the JL. (With the bonus of potential paralysis or death of the less durable heroes)

 

Does anyone have a mind-map or something going of everything we’ve deciphered about the Corn-cob conspiracy? I am starting to think that the people of Lego City are complicit in cannibalism and using dead flesh as bricks. I am convinced that the entire place has to go. Demolition Dummy is hereby authorised full Lethal Force when the time comes.

 

6 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

Turtle can't come to the phone right now.

Okily dokily. I wonder if he’ll ever return?