ASLUME (formerly Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion)

[DaredevilFan]

BTAS Arkham makes the most sense, for Marvel Lego like to reuse a lot of the minifigs. Like the Tower and the x-mansion have a lot of their mini figs made up from other sets. This way Lego can throw in Batman, Joker, Harley, Catwoman or Freeze then add to the list. I’m hoping we’ll get a mad hatter and ventriloquist for new minifigs. Then give us some other classics like black and white two-face. Hope the line-up is along the lines of the Bugle and Tower rather than sanctum. Also hope the interior won’t be too cramped if it is modular style. Feels good to be excited again for DC, can’t wait to be disappointed 😂 

[Rwbricks]

7 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

And even if not, let's not forget that Gunn always was a big Scooby-Doo fan... Being sincerely into something doesn't guarantee respect for the source material and fanbase

Gunn loves Scooby-Doo. 
 

Scooby-Doo and DC have a history of crossovers. 
 

Gunn is now the co-head of DC. 
 

 

[Renny The Spaceman]

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

Alright, Zack Snyder had the creator's right to turn Superman into a murderer who doesn't care about the lives the people he is supposed to protect and is perfectly OK of endagering them. That's something Homelander from the comic would've done, but hey, at least it's new! 

 

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

 

Right, that's fair enough but we're talking about comic book movies here and they've always been weird. With the exception of direct to dvd stuff they almost never adapt actual books, just varyingly vague stories and a random grab bag of characters. The Dark Knight, every Spider-Man film bar the first two (even then it's tenuous),  everything Gunn's done, Infinity War, Logan, and that's just scraping the surface are all piecemealing parts of different stories together. It's not comparable to adaptations of regular books because you'd never get a Lord of the Rings Adaptation where half way through the story Frodo meets Thorin and they do an abridged version of the Hobbit before hopping back to LotR. Comic book movies only really ever adapt characters and individual famous moments 

 

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

Alright, Zack Snyder had the creator's right to turn Superman into a murderer who doesn't care about the lives the people he is supposed to protect and is perfectly OK of endagering them. That's something Homelander from the comic would've done, but hey, at least it's new! 

I am indignant and outraged you'd say that, do you even remember the silver age? Endangering those he cares about by being a moron is something Superman has done longer than either of us were alive.

But aside from that...

 It was never something new, what if superheroes were "realistic" and killed had been done numerous times before even man of steel. 

I will fully concede Snyder is a better argument for "not respecting the source material" though because he straight up said he thought comics were lame until he saw ones where characters killed, says constantly how his stuff is realistic and other interpretations are dream world because their heroes don't "lie to the government" and shit. He's like a parody of a character made to reinforce your argument. He's very much an edge case though 

I think he's kinda funny though so I can't be mad at his films.

If at any point Gunn, like Snyder, gives an interview about how unlike comics his movies are for adults I will say he doesn't "respect the source material"

[psqidexslizer]

1 hour ago, DaredevilFan said:

BTAS Arkham makes the most sense, for Marvel Lego like to reuse a lot of the minifigs. Like the Tower and the x-mansion have a lot of their mini figs made up from other sets. This way Lego can throw in Batman, Joker, Harley, Catwoman or Freeze then add to the list. I’m hoping we’ll get a mad hatter and ventriloquist for new minifigs. Then give us some other classics like black and white two-face. Hope the line-up is along the lines of the Bugle and Tower rather than sanctum. Also hope the interior won’t be too cramped if it is modular style. Feels good to be excited again for DC, can’t wait to be disappointed 😂 

Assuming we get something similar to the X-Men Mansion (five new figures, 2 reuse, 2 reuse with new pieces, 1 new character made from existing pieces), I think an ideal figure lineup would be:

Batman (reuse)

Robin (new)

Harley Quinn (reuse)

Joker (new face print)

Mr Freeze (printed legs)

Two Face (new)

Riddler (new)

Scarecrow (new)

Poison Ivy (new)

Guard (all reused pieces)

 

No new characters per say, but some highly desirable variants. 

Edited October 16, 2024 by psqidexslizer

[RiddlerDC]

Sorry to interrupt. Harry Potter set looks like that Arkham Asylum set from 2013.

[CloneCommando99]

12 minutes ago, RiddlerDC said:

Sorry to interrupt. Harry Potter set looks like that Arkham Asylum set from 2013.

Firstly, welcome to eurobricks.

Second of all. You’re right. It even has a gate and some psychotic individuals as minifigs.

 

1 hour ago, Rwbricks said:

Gunn loves Scooby-Doo. 
 

Scooby-Doo and DC have a history of crossovers. 
 

Gunn is now the co-head of DC. 
 

 

The hierarchy of dogs in the DC universe is about to change.

[Agent Kallus]

25 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said:

Assuming we get something similar to the X-Men Mansion (five new figures, 2 reuse, 2 reuse with new pieces, 1 new character made from existing pieces), I think an ideal figure lineup would be:

Batman (reuse)

Robin (new)

Harley Quinn (reuse)

Joker (new face print)

Mr Freeze (printed legs)

Two Face (new)

Riddler (new)

Scarecrow (new)

Poison Ivy (new)

Guard (all reused pieces)

 

No new characters per say, but some highly desirable variants. 

I would hope for at least one fully new character. Maybe Jarvis tetch? Or Baby Doll or Ventriloquist?

Killer cric would be nice, he's not a new character but he'd be new to me.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

I wouldn't trust a random Instagram leaker without a track record. Just saying.

A BTAS Arkham sure does sound nice. Just like the Tower of Fate did. 

[psqidexslizer]

38 minutes ago, RiddlerDC said:

Sorry to interrupt. Harry Potter set looks like that Arkham Asylum set from 2013.

My first thought when I saw that set was “that looks like it’d make a great Arkham Asylum.”

16 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I wouldn't trust a random Instagram leaker without a track record. Just saying.

A BTAS Arkham sure does sound nice. Just like the Tower of Fate did. 

It’s not just a random leaker without a track record. Palnett (the guy who leaked the superheroes sets for this January) dropped a couple of hints that it might be Arkham Asylum (not specifically BtAS, but that makes the most sense).

But yeah, obviously we shouldn’t take it as a guarantee until we get something more concrete than a tease. I’m just speculating about it because it beats arguing about what breed of dog is most comic accurate for Krypto (we all know he should be a cat 😝).

[BatDeanj]

if it's true, do you think it would be modular? or its own thing like this moc? I think its own would be better

[Legocentrico]

10 minuti fa, psqidexslizer ha detto:

"sembra che sarebbe stato un grande Arkham Asylum"

Yes, 10 years ago

[Legoman123]

Do we have any idea on price, I’d be disappointed with anything less than £400 to be honest 

[psqidexslizer]

1 hour ago, Legoman123 said:

Do we have any idea on price, I’d be disappointed with anything less than £400 to be honest 

We don’t even know if it’s happening.

 

1 hour ago, BatDeanj said:

if it's true, do you think it would be modular? or its own thing like this moc? I think its own would be better

I’d guess modular, but I’d prefer it be its own thing like Rivendell.

[Lego Nostalgia]

Would be perfect for a UCS Arkham to include Victor Zsaz but idk if they'd include him, his whole trait is cutting tally marks of his victims into his skin so, Joker has done far worse crimes though so it never really makes sense with Lego's morals lol

Red Skull is a Nazi and The Riddler from 2022 IS a serial killer, surely we can get a crazy guy who cuts his skin RIGHT ?

But we better get at least 15 figures or it's going to be very sad with  a lot of reuses

Need Red Hood,Nightwing,Batgirl,Red Robin,Damian,Gordon and a few other villains

Hopefully it's comic based if true but BTAS won't be so bad either

If only the Shadow Box was comic based and not a shadowbox xD

Edited October 16, 2024 by Lego Nostalgia

[Mandalorianknight]

17 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

It’s already better than Man of Steel.

Honestly this image looks weird to me. The lighting/framing makes it feel almost like Zooboomafo or something of that caliber rather than a movie. 

I don't think it'll actually impact the film- honestly I don't think this frame will even look this way in the film- the image just looks odd to me.

12 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Also, no Christ imagery thus far! I get where it comes from, but Snyder really overdid it to the point that it made Supes hard to relate to as a person. 

I'll take more relatable superman for this one, but I didn't mind the imagery in the snyder stuff. I like the idea that superman ISN'T just a guy, 

9 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

Our favorite Gambit-based leaker(?) is saying 76329 is that 18+ Batman set and it’s Arkham Asylum, possibly based on BtAS. Seems like he’s just riding on palnett’s coattails, but regardless, I think there’s a good chance Arkham is next year’s modular building.

If the Sentinal rumor is true, I will put "Gambit-based user" in my signature.

[ARC2149Nova]

People who say that Supes should be relatable: No he shouldn't. No more than Batman or Green Lantern or Flash, etc. He's an ideal. The Superman. Of course, he's also your all-American, baseball and apple pie kinda guy. He's family-oriented and loves to help people, but again, he's an inspiration. A symbol of hope. He can also fly and shoot lasers out both eyes. He's everything we can be and more.

Snyder leaned heavy into the idea that this godlike being is, in fact, godlike. It's not a disservice to Superman's character to be portrayed in this way. All-Star Superman, while making Clark more mortal, yes, still ends with even Luthor acknowledging that Superman is a higher lifeform. Lex Luthor. Superman is holding the Sun together by the end of that story. Relatable doesn't mean better.

As for Krypto, like with Superman, he isn't just a dog. He's the dog. He's Superdog. A small terrier isn't gonna cut it for me. Krypto should be a hound, Great Dane, Shepherd, hell, I'd even take a Husky or wolf (a la Young Justice). People forget that this pooch isn't just some guy's dog. He's a superhero in his own right.

Tl;dr: Can Superman be somewhat relatable? Sure. Should he be completely relatable? No. He's Superman, not Man. Does it matter what kind of dog Krypto is? Yes, he's a Kryptonian Hound, and unless that there's a puppy, there's nothing super about that dog.

 

UCS Arkham should have like 20 minifigures, which means it'll only have like seven. Batman, Harleen Quinzel, Prison Joker, Poison Ivy, Penguin (for some reason), Security Guard, Scarecrow.

I'd love to be wrong about this.

11 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

what breed of dog is most comic accurate for Krypto (we all know he should be a cat 😝).

Real ones remember Streaky the GOAT. 

17 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Coming from someone who owns a Labrador, I don’t mind it. I think it’s a good idea for Krypto to be a mixture of different breads. That way it adds to the he’s everyone’s dog feel. As everyone has a different taste in dogs, so Gunn’s appealing to as many of them as possible.
 

He's not everyone's dog. He's Superman's dog.

Some people don't like Great Danes. Should Scooby-Doo suddenly be a Dalmatian? 

Krypto's a White Lab, occasionally depicted as a Shepherd. (Edit: this is how he is drawn in comics/what he's based of off)

19 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Probably wanted a breed that looked ruffer and thus more like a stray. Probably a good filmmaking decision. 

Man, it's a just a different breed of dog. I think the idea of "respect" for the source material is honestly such a meaningless phrase at this point

He can do whatever he wants, it's his movie. But, it's not accurate to the source material. This is just factual. Does this mean it'll be a terrible movie? Of course not.

I still don't think Gunn cares about accurately portraying these characters that he loves to claim, though. He just wants to do his own thing. As fans of the source material, we're allowed to call him out on it. Krypto is a non-issue, sure, but the idea of corporate Superheroes wearing Maxwell Lord uniforms (Especially Hawkgirl and Guy freakin' Gardner), the Guardian Commandos Squad (look at all three of those teams and tell me it's not the same), the only thing he's got right so far is the costume and the fact the Superman has a dog.

Let's pump the brakes on Gunn's saviorship until the movie actually drops.

Edited October 17, 2024 by ARC2149Nova

[BatDeanj]

I think about 15 Minifigs is a right expectation for the d2c Arkham (hoping $450-500).
Batman plus 1 or 2 bat family members. 5 Guards and doctors (very likely 1 is Harleen) - the rest share 1 new torso for guards and 1 for doctors and reuse heads. 7-8 Villains 

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

He's not everyone's dog. He's Superman's dog.

 

 

This panel takes place after he’s been a very good boy.

 

29 minutes ago, BatDeanj said:

I think about 15 Minifigs is a right expectation for the d2c Arkham (hoping $450-500).
Batman plus 1 or 2 bat family members. 5 Guards and doctors (very likely 1 is Harleen) - the rest share 1 new torso for guards and 1 for doctors and reuse heads. 7-8 Villains 

If it has Robin or Nightwing I’ll finally be able to get some Dick.

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Let's pump the brakes on Gunn's saviorship until the movie actually drops.

The thing is that saviourship isn't about Gunn being super comic accurate. It's about making movies that are actually enjoyable, fun and yes have at least the slightest respect for the source material. I've liked every James Gunn movie I've seen but to my knowledge Zach Synder is yet to make a single good movie (Admittedly I've not seen 300, I always wanted to as a child as I've a great interest in the ancient Greeks but my parents made me wait but by the time I was considered old enough I'd seen the Zach Synder DC movies and no longer had any Interest in watching anything else he had touched).

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

 

Real ones remember Streaky the GOAT. 

 

Streaky I do have deeper a connection to than Krypto. Reading showcase presents Supergirl from the library as a kid. Also I'm much more of a cat person than a dog person. I may have built a digital Venomised Streaky.

(Just don't mention Comet, for his sins are legion)

Also finding in very funny that people are saying they're hoping that the potential Arkham is $400, I know they mean a $400 sized set, but I'm just imagining people begging for Lego to overcharge them for what could be a $180 set or something .

Edited October 17, 2024 by Agent Kallus

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

If it has Robin or Nightwing I’ll finally be able to get some Dick.

Are we seriously done with "Phrasing"!?

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

*Corny Superman Speech*

That's your counterpoint? He's still not a terrier. And no, he's not literally everyone's dog. Superman is making a point about Krypto's heroics, not a statement of fact.

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

Also finding in very funny that people are saying they're hoping that the potential Arkham is $400, I know they mean a $400 sized set, but I'm just imagining people begging for Lego to overcharge them for what could be a $180 set or something .

I, for one, hope Arkham is much more affordable. We don't need another exorbitantly priced set. $300 maximum, but I'd love to see it done well at the $200-$250 range.

1 hour ago, BatDeanj said:

I think about 15 Minifigs is a right expectation for the d2c Arkham (hoping $450-500).
Batman plus 1 or 2 bat family members. 5 Guards and doctors (very likely 1 is Harleen) - the rest share 1 new torso for guards and 1 for doctors and reuse heads. 7-8 Villains 

There's no way Lego will release an Arkham Asylum worthy of a $500 price tag. No way. They'd have to include every villain known to man for it to even be remotely worth it.

That's not even getting started on the building, with mess hall, foyer, offices, individualized prison cells, prison yard, guard tower, infirmary, etc. Plus Batman and his twelve sidekicks/allies. For $500 I need to see 20 figures at a minimum, no reuses (outside of Batman and maybe Joker), and several new characters.

[Renny The Spaceman]

3 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I still don't think Gunn cares about accurately portraying these characters that he loves to claim, though. He just wants to do his own thing. As fans of the source material, we're allowed to call him out on it. Krypto is a non-issue, sure, but the idea of corporate Superheroes wearing Maxwell Lord uniforms (Especially Hawkgirl and Guy freakin' Gardner), the Guardian Commandos Squad (look at all three of those teams and tell me it's not the same), the only thing he's got right so far is the costume and the fact the Superman has a dog.

Let's pump the brakes on Gunn's saviorship until the movie actually drops.

When did I say he was a saviour, when did I say anything was comic accurate? I have said I don't feel anything strongly about this film so far (I don't actually give a shit about most superhero movies), I just hate the dumb moralising people do about whether or not something "respects" the source material especially as it is never consistent. Giving the Joker greasy, long hair and a smile carved into his face looks very different from the comics  as does making Wolverine tall or giving spider-man blue eyes but no-one ever says they're "disrespecting" anything. Say why it works better for you all you want, criticise it as much as you want but it's not disrespecting anything by making a dog a different breed, if someone thinks it's a bad filmmaking choice they should just say that 

[Coryo]

3 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

the only thing he's got right so far is the costume and the fact the Superman has a dog.

Do people generally like the costume design? A lot of the choices seem unnecessary to me, like the random lines over it and kneepads for whatever reason, a little too MCU-ish for Superman

Regarding Krypto, I'm not really into dogs or that whole culture so I probably wouldn't have cared for whatever breed they went with, but I think the idea was for it to resemble the dog that James Gunn personally owns. For better or for worse, he seems to draw quite a lot from the dynamics and relationships in his own life and put it into the stuff he writes/directs.

 

I don't think the DC theme should get a massive location-based set until the theme properly gets back on its feet, the Daily Bugle and Avengers Tower only got the amount of minifigs that they did since most of them were already in production, DC doesn't have anything close to that yet.

Still ain't trusting that Gambit guy

[ARC2149Nova]

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

When did I say he was a saviour, when did I say anything was comic accurate?

A lot of folks seem to be all aboard the Gunn train because they enjoy his movies. The thing is, accuracy issues aside, Gunn is just incredibly one note. All of his superhero stuff has the same feel to it. I mostly dislike him making Star Lord an utter buffoon to the point where even the comics have made him such (a topic for another day), and turning the Guardians into nothing but a bunch of joke characters. People love it, though. I look at Suicide Squad and I see the same problem. Assault on Arkham and Hell to Pay are objectively better films, even though yes, animated-vs-live-action-yada-yada. They get the tone of the Squad right.

2 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Giving the Joker greasy, long hair and a smile carved into his face looks very different from the comics  as does making Wolverine tall or giving spider-man blue eyes but no-one ever says they're "disrespecting" anything. Say why it works better for you all you want, criticise it as much as you want but it's not disrespecting anything by making a dog a different breed

I agree that differences in adaptation don't necessarily mean a filmmaker disrespects the source material, but a Ra's al Ghul without the Lazarus Pit, Vulture and Mysterio being Iron Man's enemies/Spider-Man is basically Iron Lad are changes that do come across as just not "Getting it". Krypto's specific breed isn't the issue (he's an alien dog, after all), it's the size and stature of the breed chosen that does. Krypto is usually depicted as a Labrador for a reason. Story choices matter. Filmmaking choices matter. It's more than just "a dog". Making Krypto just any old dog takes away from what Krypto is and what he adds to Superman as a character. A strong guard dog, a fiercely loyal companion (emphasis on the fierce), and a superhero in his own right. Visually, it's important for Krypto to be a bigger breed.

1 hour ago, Coryo said:

Do people generally like the costume design? A lot of the choices seem unnecessary to me, like the random lines over it and kneepads for whatever reason, a little too MCU-ish for Superman

It's been received well enough. It is a bit overdesigned though, but that's the case with every superhero costume now, it seems.

1 hour ago, Coryo said:

the idea was for it to resemble the dog that James Gunn personally owns. For better or for worse, he seems to draw quite a lot from the dynamics and relationships in his own life and put it into the stuff he writes/directs.

And this is why he shouldn't be making movies for established characters and universes. Make your own characters and sprinkle in your life, that's fine. But you're not Superman. A good writer knows how to separate themselves from their characters.

[CloneCommando99]

I don’t believe anyone’s brought this up yet, but… Damnnnnnnnn Gunn cooked with the John Stewart casting.

(I was hoping for John Boyega but Aaron Pierre is actually a really good choice)

[NovaBricks]

Surprised that no one has mentioned Lock-Up yet. Would almost have to be in any BtAS-based Arkham. I was actually surprised as I was rewatching the series recently how little Arkham actually appears. Basically Joker escaping on the tree, The Trial, and the Lock-Up episode. 

As for price, selfishly I want it at $400+. For every other LEGO set I'm over the insane pricing, but I want Batman's version of the Bugle, with a large piece count and 20 figs. I also can't really envision a good Arkham at the X-Mansion price point and piece count unless they're just gonna make a beefier version of the 2013 set.